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| First post | 2026-03-18 05:55 -0400 |
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"Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-18 05:55 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> - 2026-03-19 15:52 +0800
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-19 04:43 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-03-19 15:14 +0100
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-19 08:49 -0700
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-19 23:46 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-03-20 14:11 +0100
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-20 23:23 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-21 20:26 +0100
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-22 00:27 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-22 11:26 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-22 08:46 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-22 21:10 +0100
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-23 03:35 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:34 +0100
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-23 07:18 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-03-26 02:36 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-26 03:34 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 03:55 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-26 02:46 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-26 08:59 -0700
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-27 13:54 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-03-27 18:28 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-27 21:13 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-28 00:11 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2026-03-28 21:56 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-29 03:47 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2026-03-29 16:49 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-30 01:18 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-30 11:50 +0100
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-30 10:33 -0700
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-30 20:30 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-30 21:53 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2026-03-31 08:58 -0700
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 17:23 +0100
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-31 10:58 -0700
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-31 19:21 +0100
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2026-04-01 15:06 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 21:21 +0100
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-03-31 15:53 -0500
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2026-04-01 06:47 -0700
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2026-04-02 15:53 +1300
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2026-04-02 08:04 -0700
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-31 21:28 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2026-04-01 06:51 -0700
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-01 20:50 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-01 23:12 +0100
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-02 05:57 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-04-03 08:58 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-03 23:56 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-27 21:17 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-28 03:07 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-28 00:07 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-03-28 00:13 -0500
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-28 06:47 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-28 11:44 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-28 11:40 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-28 06:45 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-28 15:04 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-29 12:12 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-28 11:33 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-29 11:57 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2026-03-29 09:29 -0700
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-29 16:11 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2026-03-29 17:02 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-03-26 08:41 -0700
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-27 09:41 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> - 2026-03-27 08:41 -0700
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 03:46 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-26 02:27 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-03-26 08:40 -0700
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 21:42 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-03-27 18:24 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-27 18:27 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-28 14:27 +0100
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-26 01:37 -0400
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 18:33 +0000
Re: "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 07:01 +0000
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2026-04-01 06:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10qj7md$8rgn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #84890 |
On 3/31/2026 9:23 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 31/03/2026 16:58, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >> On 3/30/2026 6:53 PM, c186282 wrote: >>> On 3/30/26 16:30, rbowman wrote: > >>> But ... but ... you can only save yer soul by >>> selling it to The Church ! :-) >>> >> If you sell something it isn't yours anymore. >> > Y'know, looking at religion from the outside, as it were, with no great > skin in the game, I think I finally worked out what 'soul' is...and why > people talk about selling it. > > Take yer actual Trump. If there is anyone who has sold his soul, its > him. His life is totally dominated by power and money and status, He > isn't going to hell. He is already there. He has no peace whatsoever. > Just like Putin. Soulmates indeed. > Donald Trump didn't sell his soul. His father ripped it out and stomped it to pieces when he was born. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.
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| From | Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-02 15:53 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <10qkloq$o0uk$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #85015 |
On 02/04/2026 02:47, Dimensional Traveler wrote: > On 3/31/2026 9:23 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 31/03/2026 16:58, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >>> On 3/30/2026 6:53 PM, c186282 wrote: >>>> On 3/30/26 16:30, rbowman wrote: >> >>>> But ... but ... you can only save yer soul by >>>> selling it to The Church ! :-) >>>> >>> If you sell something it isn't yours anymore. >>> >> Y'know, looking at religion from the outside, as it were, with no >> great skin in the game, I think I finally worked out what 'soul' >> is...and why people talk about selling it. >> >> Take yer actual Trump. If there is anyone who has sold his soul, its >> him. His life is totally dominated by power and money and status, He >> isn't going to hell. He is already there. He has no peace whatsoever. >> Just like Putin. Soulmates indeed. >> > Donald Trump didn't sell his soul. His father ripped it out and stomped > it to pieces when he was born. And now those pieces are preserved, perhaps for resale at some later date, in a secure comfortable Rothschild vault.
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2026-04-02 08:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10qm0gv$1696u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #85111 |
On 4/1/2026 7:53 PM, Titus G wrote: > On 02/04/2026 02:47, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >> On 3/31/2026 9:23 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 31/03/2026 16:58, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >>>> On 3/30/2026 6:53 PM, c186282 wrote: >>>>> On 3/30/26 16:30, rbowman wrote: >>> >>>>> But ... but ... you can only save yer soul by >>>>> selling it to The Church ! :-) >>>>> >>>> If you sell something it isn't yours anymore. >>>> >>> Y'know, looking at religion from the outside, as it were, with no >>> great skin in the game, I think I finally worked out what 'soul' >>> is...and why people talk about selling it. >>> >>> Take yer actual Trump. If there is anyone who has sold his soul, its >>> him. His life is totally dominated by power and money and status, He >>> isn't going to hell. He is already there. He has no peace whatsoever. >>> Just like Putin. Soulmates indeed. >>> >> Donald Trump didn't sell his soul. His father ripped it out and stomped >> it to pieces when he was born. > > And now those pieces are preserved, perhaps for resale at some later > date, in a secure comfortable Rothschild vault. Really poor investment IMO. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-31 21:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10qhe9b$3m51a$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #84886 |
On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 08:58:59 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >> But ... but ... you can only save yer soul by selling it to The >> Church ! :-) >> > If you sell something it isn't yours anymore. That’s not how copyright works, just for example. Perhaps souls are copyrighted?
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| From | Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2026-04-01 06:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10qj7si$8rgn$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #84916 |
On 3/31/2026 2:28 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 08:58:59 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote: > >>> But ... but ... you can only save yer soul by selling it to The >>> Church ! :-) >>> >> If you sell something it isn't yours anymore. > > That’s not how copyright works, just for example. > > Perhaps souls are copyrighted? Copyright is renting it out. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-01 20:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10qk0ea$i3m5$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #85017 |
On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 06:51:15 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote: > On 3/31/2026 2:28 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >> On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 08:58:59 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >> >>>> But ... but ... you can only save yer soul by selling it to The >>>> Church ! :-) >>>> >>> If you sell something it isn't yours anymore. >> >> That’s not how copyright works, just for example. >> >> Perhaps souls are copyrighted? > > Copyright is renting it out. You go to a bookstore, they don’t say the books are for rent, they say they are for sale. Go to a store selling CDs or DVDs, they don’t say the CDs and DVDs are for rent, they say they are for sale.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-01 23:12 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10qk589$jphm$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #85065 |
On 2026-04-01, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 06:51:15 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote: > >> On 3/31/2026 2:28 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 08:58:59 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >>> >>>>> But ... but ... you can only save yer soul by selling it to The >>>>> Church ! :-) >>>>> >>>> If you sell something it isn't yours anymore. >>> >>> That’s not how copyright works, just for example. >>> >>> Perhaps souls are copyrighted? >> >> Copyright is renting it out. > > You go to a bookstore, they don’t say the books are for rent, they say > they are for sale. > > Go to a store selling CDs or DVDs, they don’t say the CDs and DVDs are > for rent, they say they are for sale. Copyright isn't what allows books and discs to be sold or content to be leased, it's what allows rightsholders to mantain, in certain circumstances, a monopoly on that. -- Nuno Silva
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-02 05:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n36er1F2r2bU29@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #85065 |
On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 20:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 06:51:15 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote: > >> On 3/31/2026 2:28 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 08:58:59 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote: >>> >>>>> But ... but ... you can only save yer soul by selling it to The >>>>> Church ! :-) >>>>> >>>> If you sell something it isn't yours anymore. >>> >>> That’s not how copyright works, just for example. >>> >>> Perhaps souls are copyrighted? >> >> Copyright is renting it out. > > You go to a bookstore, they don’t say the books are for rent, they say > they are for sale. > > Go to a store selling CDs or DVDs, they don’t say the CDs and DVDs are > for rent, they say they are for sale. And digital materials? Stephen Kinsella has written quite a bit on copyright and IP laws. https://stephankinsella.com/ip/
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| From | vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> |
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| Date | 2026-04-03 08:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10qnvfh$1p82b$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #84721 |
At 30 Mar 2026 20:30:16 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 11:50:19 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > > > On 30/03/2026 02:18, rbowman wrote: > >> On Sun, 29 Mar 2026 16:49:30 -0400, William Hyde wrote: > >> > >>> Or as I've said in the past, "Mea Minima Culpa". > >>> > >>> I tried compiling a list of my sins of this type, but it got > >>> depressingly long. > >> > >> Bless me Father for I have sinned. It's been sixty years since my last > >> confession. Maybe you want to clear your calendar. > > The advantage of not being particularly religious is that it is hard to > > work out what a sin is.. > > That's one of my theological stumbling blocks. I never felt the need for > salvation from Original Sin or the ones I chalked up on my own. Reference Ezekiel 18... -- -v ASUS TUF DASH F15 x86_64 Mem: 15.9G OS: Linux 6.17.0-19-generic D: Mint 22.3 DE: Xfce 4.18 (X11) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile (6G) 580.126.09 "Borg? Where? I don't se*(#$#..NO CARRIER"
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-03 23:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n3b2cgFrlqtU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #85243 |
On Fri, 03 Apr 2026 08:58:25 +0000, vallor wrote: > At 30 Mar 2026 20:30:16 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, 30 Mar 2026 11:50:19 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >> > On 30/03/2026 02:18, rbowman wrote: >> >> On Sun, 29 Mar 2026 16:49:30 -0400, William Hyde wrote: >> >> >> >>> Or as I've said in the past, "Mea Minima Culpa". >> >>> >> >>> I tried compiling a list of my sins of this type, but it got >> >>> depressingly long. >> >> >> >> Bless me Father for I have sinned. It's been sixty years since my >> >> last confession. Maybe you want to clear your calendar. >> > The advantage of not being particularly religious is that it is hard >> > to work out what a sin is.. >> >> That's one of my theological stumbling blocks. I never felt the need >> for salvation from Original Sin or the ones I chalked up on my own. > > Reference Ezekiel 18... Oh, the sins of the father thing. I knew the saying but never got as far as Ezekiel. Given the catalog of sins, the fathers have been doing a lot of sinning lately. A friend felt they would pay for it in hell; I have my doubts.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-03-27 21:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lGydnZpMeo-LsVr0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #84205 |
On 3/27/26 13:54, Cryptoengineer wrote: > On 3/25/2026 11:55 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2026-03-26, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2026 02:36:09 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake wrote: >>> >>>> Arthur Clarke's novella "The Lion of Comarre", written in 1946 and >>>> published in 1949, described a character using pocket-size wireless >>>> device which was essentially a modern smartphone. One could use it >>>> to call anyone else on the planet, bring up maps for navigation, >>>> etc. (Of course in 1949 the idea was completely outlandish. The >>>> story is set in the 32nd century.) >>> >>> I would imagine at some point in the next century or so, we will >>> figure out how to turn all these gadgets into built-in extensions to >>> our nervous system. So nobody would need to carry anything about at >>> all. >>> >>> It may look odd to see people staring out into space while using their >>> body-internal devices. Maybe there would also be an autopilot mode to >>> keep their bodies from bumping into other people/things, falling down >>> manholes etc while they’re preoccupied with something else. >> >> And, of course, there will be surveillance links to whoever is running >> the show, complete with a means to kill or at least incapacitate anyone >> who oversteps the bounds. Several movies and SF stories have touched >> on this, although I can't remember titles right now. > > "'Alas Harlequin!' Cried the Tick Tock Man" is one. We have, happily, accepted and self-facilitated more detailed surveillance than the Stasi could ever have hoped for. Given history and human nature, the results CANNOT be good, not at all. But is there a realistic way to STOP this ??? Note the recent 'child protection' rules will soon mean everyone must provide legal ID numbers to many providers to prove age. The numbers will be stored in leaky servers - ripe for foreign and domestic exploitation.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-28 03:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n2ouunF1r9hU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #84223 |
On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 21:17:06 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Note the recent 'child protection' rules will soon mean everyone must > provide legal ID numbers to many providers to prove age. The numbers > will be stored in leaky servers - ripe for foreign and domestic > exploitation. you mean wherever Kash Patel had his email stashed?
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-03-28 00:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <IxSdnQT1BryRyVr0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #84227 |
On 3/27/26 23:07, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 21:17:06 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Note the recent 'child protection' rules will soon mean everyone must >> provide legal ID numbers to many providers to prove age. The numbers >> will be stored in leaky servers - ripe for foreign and domestic >> exploitation. > > > you mean wherever Kash Patel had his email stashed? I already posted elsewhere about THAT ... and it's scary and embarrassing. That was apparently the main FBI system - and some Iranian hacks sliced right into it without even being noticed. Unfortunately we'll never hear enough DETAILS to help bolster any future defense. How many nuke/chem plants are now under their control ?
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| From | Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-28 00:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10q7o15$bjs4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #84229 |
On 3/27/2026 11:07 PM, c186282 wrote: > On 3/27/26 23:07, rbowman wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 21:17:06 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Note the recent 'child protection' rules will soon mean everyone >>> must >>> provide legal ID numbers to many providers to prove age. The numbers >>> will be stored in leaky servers - ripe for foreign and domestic >>> exploitation. >> >> >> you mean wherever Kash Patel had his email stashed? > > I already posted elsewhere about THAT ... and it's > scary and embarrassing. That was apparently the main > FBI system - and some Iranian hacks sliced right into > it without even being noticed. > > Unfortunately we'll never hear enough DETAILS to > help bolster any future defense. > > How many nuke/chem plants are now under their control ? All existing nuke plant controls are analog. Their data historians are digital though with zero control capability. The new SMR controls will probably be digital though. Lynn
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-28 06:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n2pbssF3eofU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #84230 |
On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 00:13:06 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote: > On 3/27/2026 11:07 PM, c186282 wrote: >> On 3/27/26 23:07, rbowman wrote: >>> On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 21:17:06 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> Note the recent 'child protection' rules will soon mean >>>> everyone >>>> must >>>> provide legal ID numbers to many providers to prove age. The >>>> numbers will be stored in leaky servers - ripe for foreign and >>>> domestic exploitation. >>> >>> >>> you mean wherever Kash Patel had his email stashed? >> >> I already posted elsewhere about THAT ... and it's scary and >> embarrassing. That was apparently the main FBI system - and some >> Iranian hacks sliced right into it without even being noticed. >> >> Unfortunately we'll never hear enough DETAILS to help bolster any >> future defense. >> >> How many nuke/chem plants are now under their control ? > > All existing nuke plant controls are analog. Their data historians are > digital though with zero control capability. The new SMR controls will > probably be digital though. You don't need a fancy cyber attack if one of the plant operators is compromised and decides to take the fast track to the 72 virgins.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-28 11:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10q8ev5$h35c$14@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #84234 |
On 28/03/2026 06:47, rbowman wrote: >> All existing nuke plant controls are analog. Their data historians are >> digital though with zero control capability. The new SMR controls will >> probably be digital though. > You don't need a fancy cyber attack if one of the plant operators is > compromised and decides to take the fast track to the 72 virgins. Actually, even that is pretty hard to achieve. And almost impossible with an SMR. Without literally planting explosives of considerable size right up against the reactor housing The outer containment is designed to be bombproof. FSVO 'bomb'. One of the major advantages of SMRs is that to melt own down is virtually impossible using the controls. -- Climate is what you expect but weather is what you get. Mark Twain
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-28 11:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10q8ems$h35c$13@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #84230 |
On 28/03/2026 05:13, Lynn McGuire wrote: > All existing nuke plant controls are analog. Their data historians are > digital though with zero control capability. The new SMR controls will > probably be digital though. The more telling issue is whether or not they need to be networked and remote controlled and, if so,whether or not a private and separate network might be more desirable. And there are ways to circumvent abuse from the controlling software. Like fusible link control rods that drop back into the core if things get too hot. Yes it SCRAMs the reactor but that is better than a core meltdown And SMRs provided they are reasonably full of water can't meltdown anyway,. They simply are not large enough. In fact they may have issues reaching criticality at all without HEU or equivalent. -- New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in someone else's pocket.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-28 06:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n2pbofF3eofU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #84229 |
On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 00:07:14 -0400, c186282 wrote: > I already posted elsewhere about THAT ... and it's scary and > embarrassing. That was apparently the main FBI system - and some > Iranian hacks sliced right into it without even being noticed. > > Unfortunately we'll never hear enough DETAILS to help bolster any > future defense. > > How many nuke/chem plants are now under their control ? If you want scary search for 'drones barksdale'. I won't post links so everyone can find the news source of their choice without screaming 'right wingnut conspiracy!"
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2026-03-28 15:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <26SxR.24255$eG1.22447@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #84229 |
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> writes: >On 3/27/26 23:07, rbowman wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 21:17:06 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Note the recent 'child protection' rules will soon mean everyone must >>> provide legal ID numbers to many providers to prove age. The numbers >>> will be stored in leaky servers - ripe for foreign and domestic >>> exploitation. >> >> >> you mean wherever Kash Patel had his email stashed? > > I already posted elsewhere about THAT ... and it's > scary and embarrassing. That was apparently the main > FBI system - and some Iranian hacks sliced right into > it without even being noticed. The reports I read mentioned that it was his gmail account. Now, given the propensity of the trumpianly bad idiots in charge to do stupid shit, it would not surprise me to learn that patel was using his gmail account for company business.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-03-29 12:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1BednSsqYJ_j0lT0nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #84261 |
On 3/28/26 11:04, Scott Lurndal wrote: > c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> writes: >> On 3/27/26 23:07, rbowman wrote: >>> On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 21:17:06 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> Note the recent 'child protection' rules will soon mean everyone must >>>> provide legal ID numbers to many providers to prove age. The numbers >>>> will be stored in leaky servers - ripe for foreign and domestic >>>> exploitation. >>> >>> >>> you mean wherever Kash Patel had his email stashed? >> >> I already posted elsewhere about THAT ... and it's >> scary and embarrassing. That was apparently the main >> FBI system - and some Iranian hacks sliced right into >> it without even being noticed. > > The reports I read mentioned that it was his gmail account. Not sure. Gmail is likely easier, it's also a big fat target. If it WAS the main FBI system though - yikes ! > Now, given the propensity of the trumpianly bad idiots in > charge to do stupid shit, it would not surprise me to learn > that patel was using his gmail account for company business. No report of 'company' stuff ... just 'personal photos' and such.
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