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  SOMETHING Wrong With DebiVerse FFMPEG c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-17 23:53 -0500
    Re: SOMETHING Wrong With DebiVerse FFMPEG "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-02-18 13:32 +0100
      Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-18 21:07 +0000
        Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-02-19 02:07 +0100
          Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-19 01:42 +0000
            Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-19 00:25 -0500
            Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-02-19 12:19 +0100
              Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-02-19 12:22 +0100
              Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-02-19 12:23 +0100
              Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-20 04:40 +0000
                Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-02-20 12:26 +0100
                  Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-20 23:21 +0000
                    Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-02-21 01:38 +0100
                      Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-21 01:44 +0000
                        Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-21 01:51 +0000
                        Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-02-21 12:48 +0100
                    Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-02-21 12:05 +0000
          Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-19 00:16 -0500
            Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-19 09:13 +0000
              Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-02-19 18:51 +0000
                Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-20 04:41 +0000
                  Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-20 01:21 -0500
                    Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-20 08:46 +0000
                    Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-20 11:25 +0000
                    Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-20 19:32 +0000
                      Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-20 23:50 -0500
                        Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-02-21 12:54 +0100
                          Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-21 20:04 +0000
                            Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-02-21 21:57 +0100
                      Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-21 01:11 -0500
                        Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-21 06:33 +0000
                          Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-21 01:46 -0500
                            Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-02-21 12:14 +0000
                              Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-21 20:06 +0000
                                Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-22 04:42 -0500
                                  Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-22 18:49 +0000
                                    Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-22 23:11 -0500
                                      Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-02-23 08:55 +0000
                                        Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-23 19:27 +0000
                                        Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-23 19:47 -0500
                                          Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-24 07:39 +0000
                                            Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-24 21:35 -0500
                                              Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-25 06:40 +0000
                                                Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-25 04:27 -0500
                                                  Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-25 11:14 +0100
                                                  Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-25 19:50 +0000
                                              Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-25 08:52 +0100
                                                Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-25 04:34 -0500
                                                  Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-25 11:15 +0100
                                                    Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-25 06:09 -0500
                                      Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-23 19:25 +0000
                                    Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2026-02-23 09:56 -0500
                                  Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-23 09:43 +0000
                                    Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-23 19:32 +0000
                                      Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-24 00:26 -0500
                                        Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-02-24 06:58 +0000
                                          Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-24 02:10 -0500
                                            Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-24 20:54 +0000
                                        Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-24 10:37 +0100
                                        Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-24 12:39 +0000
                                        Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2026-02-24 10:16 -0500
                                          Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-24 15:28 +0000
                                            Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-24 22:27 -0500
                                              Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-02-25 08:53 +0100
                                                Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-25 04:36 -0500
                                          Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-24 22:35 -0500
                                            Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-25 06:49 +0000
                                    Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-23 19:48 -0500
                                      Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-24 07:40 +0000
                                        Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-24 12:38 +0000
                                        Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-24 21:53 -0500
                        Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-02-21 12:57 +0100
            Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-02-19 12:25 +0100
      Re: SOMETHING Wrong With DebiVerse FFMPEG c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-19 00:20 -0500
        Re: SOMETHING Wrong With DebiVerse FFMPEG "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-02-19 12:27 +0100
          Re: SOMETHING Wrong With DebiVerse FFMPEG The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-19 11:34 +0000
            Re: SOMETHING Wrong With DebiVerse FFMPEG Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-02-19 18:51 +0000
            Re: SOMETHING Wrong With DebiVerse FFMPEG c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-20 01:30 -0500
              Re: SOMETHING Wrong With DebiVerse FFMPEG rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-20 20:00 +0000
          Re: SOMETHING Wrong With DebiVerse FFMPEG Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-20 04:42 +0000
            Re: SOMETHING Wrong With DebiVerse FFMPEG c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-02-20 01:26 -0500
    Re: SOMETHING Wrong With DebiVerse FFMPEG Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-02-20 11:39 +0200
      Re: Something Wrong With DebiVerse FFmpeg Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-20 23:35 +0000
    Re: SOMETHING Wrong With DebiVerse FFMPEG Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-02-22 19:29 +0000

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#82216

On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 19:47:46 -0500, c186282 wrote:

>    Oh well, now have Mint installed and it does NOT have the stuff
>    'baked in' and VirtualBox runs OK.

You sure?  'lsmod | grep kvm'  

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#82235

On 2/24/26 02:39, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 19:47:46 -0500, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Oh well, now have Mint installed and it does NOT have the stuff
>>     'baked in' and VirtualBox runs OK.
> 
> You sure?  'lsmod | grep kvm'

   Let's say it's not "baked in" in a fashion
   that keeps VBox from working. Trixie does.

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#82241

On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 21:35:35 -0500, c186282 wrote:

> On 2/24/26 02:39, rbowman wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 19:47:46 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>> 
>>>     Oh well, now have Mint installed and it does NOT have the stuff
>>>     'baked in' and VirtualBox runs OK.
>> 
>> You sure?  'lsmod | grep kvm'
> 
>    Let's say it's not "baked in" in a fashion that keeps VBox from
>    working. Trixie does.

Check /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf.  You can unload the module with 
'sudo modprobe -r kvm_intel kvm'  or kvm_amd if that's the processor but 
it has to be on the blacklist or it will be back after a reboot.

fwiw 'sudo apt install virt-manager' on LM 22.3 sucks in all the packages 
that a lot of the instructions say you need to list. That's as good as 
Fedora's 'sudo dnf install @virtualization'  

I didn't complete creating a VM on the LM netbook; it only has 4 GB of RAM 
and I cheaped out with a 128 GB SSD.  I didn't try VB but the kernel 
definitely had kvm loaded.

The problem with VB on Debian is a known issue solved with blacklisting 
kvm. 

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#82246

On 2/25/26 01:40, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 21:35:35 -0500, c186282 wrote:
> 
>> On 2/24/26 02:39, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 19:47:46 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>>      Oh well, now have Mint installed and it does NOT have the stuff
>>>>      'baked in' and VirtualBox runs OK.
>>>
>>> You sure?  'lsmod | grep kvm'
>>
>>     Let's say it's not "baked in" in a fashion that keeps VBox from
>>     working. Trixie does.
> 
> Check /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf.  You can unload the module with
> 'sudo modprobe -r kvm_intel kvm'  or kvm_amd if that's the processor but
> it has to be on the blacklist or it will be back after a reboot.

   I'll check again ... but modprobe tweaks didn't
   work last time.

> fwiw 'sudo apt install virt-manager' on LM 22.3 sucks in all the packages
> that a lot of the instructions say you need to list. That's as good as
> Fedora's 'sudo dnf install @virtualization'

   But I don't WANT to load virt-manager ! I want VBox.

> I didn't complete creating a VM on the LM netbook; it only has 4 GB of RAM
> and I cheaped out with a 128 GB SSD.  I didn't try VB but the kernel
> definitely had kvm loaded.
> 
> The problem with VB on Debian is a known issue solved with blacklisting
> kvm.

   I'll see.

   Meanwhile the Mint fix seems OK.

   Trixie is brand new. I also had issues with BullsEye
   when it first came out - I think Deb is rushing things.

   WAS calling BullsEye "BullSHIT" and worse for awhile ...

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#82249

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> I think Deb is rushing things.

We are not. Trust me.

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#82263

On Wed, 25 Feb 2026 04:27:50 -0500, c186282 wrote:

>    Trixie is brand new. I also had issues with BullsEye when it first
>    came out - I think Deb is rushing things.
> 
>    WAS calling BullsEye "BullSHIT" and worse for awhile ...

I ran Bullseye on my work box and never went to Bookworm. It worked as a 
32-bit development machine. I needed a 32-bit distro and Debian was one of 
the few left. 

For a distro that decidedly isn't cutting edge, except for Sid, it does 
seem to have problems with new major point releases.

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#82243

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>On 2/24/26 02:39, rbowman wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 19:47:46 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>> 
>>>     Oh well, now have Mint installed and it does NOT have the stuff
>>>     'baked in' and VirtualBox runs OK.
>> 
>> You sure?  'lsmod | grep kvm'
>
>   Let's say it's not "baked in" in a fashion
>   that keeps VBox from working. Trixie does.

Untrue.

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#82247

On 2/25/26 02:52, Marc Haber wrote:
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>> On 2/24/26 02:39, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 19:47:46 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>>      Oh well, now have Mint installed and it does NOT have the stuff
>>>>      'baked in' and VirtualBox runs OK.
>>>
>>> You sure?  'lsmod | grep kvm'
>>
>>    Let's say it's not "baked in" in a fashion
>>    that keeps VBox from working. Trixie does.
> 
> Untrue.

   Very true, I tried it just Sunday.

   At least three errors - all related to the KVM
   shit - when you try to start a VBox machine.

   It's a "Sorry, can't get there from here" situation.

   SOME recommended modprobe fixes did NOT work.
   RBowman suggests some others ... I may try
   those, but not today. Have a good Mint install
   and VBox does run OK on that.

   Trixie is NEW ... and, like BullsEye/BullSHIT,
   they may have released it a bit too soon.

   I'd LIKE straight-up Debian - it's simple and
   at least very standard and no-BS. Alas that
   presumption has been TESTED, not generously,
   the last couple releases.

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#82250

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>   At least three errors - all related to the KVM
>   shit - when you try to start a VBox machine.

What is the error message? Where is your bug report?

>   It's a "Sorry, can't get there from here" situation.
>
>   SOME recommended modprobe fixes did NOT work.
>   RBowman suggests some others ... I may try
>   those, but not today. Have a good Mint install
>   and VBox does run OK on that.
>
>   Trixie is NEW ... and, like BullsEye/BullSHIT,
>   they may have released it a bit too soon.
>
>   I'd LIKE straight-up Debian - it's simple and
>   at least very standard and no-BS. Alas that
>   presumption has been TESTED, not generously,
>   the last couple releases.

Ah, never mind. I'll try to ignore you better next time.

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#82253

On 2/25/26 05:15, Marc Haber wrote:
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>    At least three errors - all related to the KVM
>>    shit - when you try to start a VBox machine.
> 
> What is the error message? Where is your bug report?
> 
>>    It's a "Sorry, can't get there from here" situation.
>>
>>    SOME recommended modprobe fixes did NOT work.
>>    RBowman suggests some others ... I may try
>>    those, but not today. Have a good Mint install
>>    and VBox does run OK on that.
>>
>>    Trixie is NEW ... and, like BullsEye/BullSHIT,
>>    they may have released it a bit too soon.
>>
>>    I'd LIKE straight-up Debian - it's simple and
>>    at least very standard and no-BS. Alas that
>>    presumption has been TESTED, not generously,
>>    the last couple releases.
> 
> Ah, never mind. I'll try to ignore you better next time.

   Please do ... you're mostly critical, not so helpful.

   As said, I've been using Linux since RH came on 5.25"
   disks - set up MANY boxes and servers with it. As
   such I know when there's a PROBLEM.

   But if it makes you feel better treating me as
   some idiot newbie .....

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#82193

On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 23:11:51 -0500, c186282 wrote:

>    "Baking it into the kernel" seems an attempt to deny or
>    hyper-complicate all other solutions.

It's the sensible solution if you're looking for speed and reliability.

https://aws.amazon.com/compare/the-difference-between-type-1-and-type-2-
hypervisors/

I've lost track of what you're trying to do. You have a bare metal Linux 
instance and want to spin up VMs of other distributions to see if they 
solve your ffmpeg problem? 

Yes, setting up KVM requires a few simple, well documented steps for the 
particular distro but once that's done you open virt-manager. It's a GUI. 
You specify the number of cores, RAM, and disk space and point it at the 
iso. The iso goes through the normal installation and you have a VM. Start 
and stop it through the manager. Create as many VMs as you want if you 
have the disk space. 

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#82187

On 2026-02-22 1:49 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 04:42:43 -0500, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>    I know VirtualBox better than KVM at this point,
>>    and the repos no longer have KVM as a distinct thing to install.
> 
> They don't have kvm as a distinct thing because it's baked into the 
> kernel. 
> 
> KVM --  Kernel-based Virtualization Machine
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine

Plus, KVM is just the backend kernel part of virtualization.
Previously, Debian had a qemu-kvm package that used the KVM kernel
module to provide hardware virtualization services for QEMU.  That's now
been replaced by the qemu-system-x86 package, the description of which
ends with:

"On x86 host hardware this package also enables KVM kernel virtual
machine usage on systems which support it."

The previous poster's link to Wikipedia explains:

"KVM itself emulates very little hardware, instead deferring to a higher
level client application such as QEMU, crosvm, or Firecracker for device
emulation."

Then, as has been mentioned elsewhere, virt-manager provides a nicer
user interface to the QEMU/KVM combo.

So KVM isn't something that users install, configure, and use directly.
It's the hardware driver at the bottom layer of a whole stack of stuff.

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#82183

On 2026-02-22, c186282 wrote:

>   I know VirtualBox better than KVM at this point,
>   and the repos no longer have KVM as a distinct
>   thing to install.

Speaking of it and virtualization software in general, isn't VirtualBox
now owned by Oracle Legal... er, I mean, Oracle?

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#82195

On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 09:43:52 +0000, Nuno Silva wrote:

> On 2026-02-22, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>   I know VirtualBox better than KVM at this point,
>>   and the repos no longer have KVM as a distinct thing to install.
> 
> Speaking of it and virtualization software in general, isn't VirtualBox
> now owned by Oracle Legal... er, I mean, Oracle?

Yeah, it was in the Sun box of goodies.

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#82208

On 2/23/26 14:32, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2026 09:43:52 +0000, Nuno Silva wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-02-22, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>>    I know VirtualBox better than KVM at this point,
>>>    and the repos no longer have KVM as a distinct thing to install.
>>
>> Speaking of it and virtualization software in general, isn't VirtualBox
>> now owned by Oracle Legal... er, I mean, Oracle?
> 
> Yeah, it was in the Sun box of goodies.

   So what ?

   I like it better than KVM, understand its
   nuances better. I've used KVM, and it's NOT
   bad, but VB has a few frills I've found
   useful.

   So ... I don't want Linux/Deb know-betters to
   lock me into KVM. Linux was supposed to be
   about 'freedom' after all  :-)

   Anyway, Mint is not so NAZI as Deb in this
   respect. Now have VB running on a Mint install
   and two VMs - GhostBSD and Manjaro. The first
   one that cleanly solves my mentioned ffmpeg
   problem becomes the surviving VM.

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#82210

On 2026-02-24, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

>    So ... I don't want Linux/Deb know-betters to
>    lock me into KVM. Linux was supposed to be
>    about 'freedom' after all  :-)

Is this a Trixie thing?  I'm still on Bookworm, and
running Windows XP under Virtual Box 7.2 on my laptop.
(I must have forgotten an update for the desktop box -
I just looked and it's still running 7.0.)

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#82213

On 2/24/26 01:58, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-02-24, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>>     So ... I don't want Linux/Deb know-betters to
>>     lock me into KVM. Linux was supposed to be
>>     about 'freedom' after all  :-)
> 
> Is this a Trixie thing?  I'm still on Bookworm, and
> running Windows XP under Virtual Box 7.2 on my laptop.
> (I must have forgotten an update for the desktop box -
> I just looked and it's still running 7.0.)

   It may indeed be a Trixie Thing ... BookWorm, once
   refined (it was released a bit too early) has been
   pretty good.

   In any case, I don't want ANY Linux FORCING me into
   software choices. KVM is good ... but I know VBox
   a bit better and like some of its options. I thus
   choose to emulate using VBox, not KVM. Alas
   "baking in" KVM into the kernel makes VBox
   unusable without massive kernel destruction.

   Anyway, dumped Trixie for Mint ... Mint does
   not conspire against VBox. Now have two VMs -
   GhostBSD and Manjaro. The one that best fixes my
   aforementioned ffmpeg probs will be the winner,
   and started at boot.

   Mint is a bit too 'Ubuntu-ish" IMHO, but not AS
   obnoxious. Also tends to run anything on anything.

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#82233

On Tue, 24 Feb 2026 02:10:35 -0500, c186282 wrote:

>    In any case, I don't want ANY Linux FORCING me into software choices.
>    KVM is good ... but I know VBox a bit better and like some of its
>    options. I thus choose to emulate using VBox, not KVM. Alas "baking
>    in" KVM into the kernel makes VBox unusable without massive kernel
>    destruction.

My Mint 22.3 has the kvm module in the kernel. In case you're ever feeling 
adventuresome:

https://linuxhint.com/install_kvm_virtualization_ubuntu/

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#82218

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>   So ... I don't want Linux/Deb know-betters to
>   lock me into KVM.

Kindly stop spreading fake news about Distributions.

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#82224

On 24/02/2026 05:26, c186282 wrote:
> The first
>    one that cleanly solves my mentioned ffmpeg
>    problem becomes the surviving VM.

I love the smell of pragmatism in the morning

-- 
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other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

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