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  “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-20 21:00 +0000
    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-20 13:15 -0800
      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 08:21 +0000
      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-21 21:24 +0000
        Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-21 13:52 -0800
    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-20 21:43 +0000
      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 23:28 +0100
        Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 03:44 +0000
          Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-20 23:07 -0500
            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 09:15 +0100
          Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 09:14 +0100
            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 08:22 +0000
              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 11:53 +0100
            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-21 22:18 +0100
      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-20 19:47 -0500
        Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways   you should absolutely never use it” vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-21 01:40 +0000
          Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-20 20:59 -0500
            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways   you should absolutely never use it” vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-21 08:50 +0000
            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 11:19 +0100
              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-21 07:35 -0500
                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-21 12:43 +0000
              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 23:50 +0000
                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-21 19:12 -0500
                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-22 00:20 +0000
                  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-22 10:12 +0000
                    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-22 20:40 +0000
                  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> - 2026-01-22 14:45 +0100
                    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-22 09:57 -0600
                    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-22 18:51 +0100
                    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-22 20:13 +0000
                      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-22 12:30 -0800
                        Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-23 05:55 +0000
                          Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-23 14:37 +0100
                            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-23 22:09 +0000
                              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-23 23:27 +0100
          Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-20 21:03 -0800
          Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways   you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 11:19 +0100
            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways   you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 23:44 +0000
              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways   you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-22 10:40 +0100
                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways   you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-22 21:03 +0000
                  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways   you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-23 12:29 +0100
                Re: “What a Linux root   user can do - and 8 w  ays   you should abso  lutely never use it  ” vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-23 14:46 +0000
        Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-21 08:50 +0000
        Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 11:19 +0100
          Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-21 18:33 +0000
            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-21 14:33 -0500
              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-21 21:15 +0000
                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-21 18:59 -0500
                  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-22 05:26 +0000
            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-21 20:07 +0000
              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 23:49 +0000
      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-21 01:00 +0000
      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 09:14 +0100
        Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-21 10:00 +0000
          Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 12:04 +0100
          Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-21 22:32 +0100
            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-21 23:51 +0000
              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-22 03:06 +0100
                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-22 10:42 +0100
                  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-22 10:11 +0000
                    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-22 21:42 +0100
                      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-22 20:44 +0000
                  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-22 13:06 +0100
                    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-22 12:30 +0000
                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-22 21:11 +0000
            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-01-22 11:24 +0100
              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-22 11:52 +0000
              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-22 13:08 +0100
                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-01-22 17:50 +0100
                  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-22 17:17 +0000
                  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-22 20:15 +0100
                    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-22 21:08 +0000
                      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-22 22:46 +0100
                        Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-23 11:04 +0000
                        Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-23 12:32 +0100
                          Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-23 15:00 +0100
                            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-23 18:16 +0100
                              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-23 09:32 -0800
                              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-23 18:19 +0000
                                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-24 14:22 +0100
                                  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-25 09:45 +0000
                                    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-25 17:14 +0000
                                      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-25 21:52 +0100
                                        Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-25 15:31 -0800
                                      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-26 12:00 +0000
                            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-23 21:00 +0000
                              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-23 22:30 +0100
                            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-23 22:30 +0000
                              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-24 14:21 +0100
                                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-24 21:05 +0000
                                  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-25 15:05 +0100
                            Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-24 11:31 +0000
                              Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-24 14:19 +0100
                      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-23 12:30 +0100
                  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-22 21:06 +0000
                    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2026-01-23 15:10 +0000
                Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-22 21:05 +0000
                  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-22 22:48 +0100
                  Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-23 12:32 +0100
                    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-23 11:40 +0000
                      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-23 18:17 +0100
                        Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-23 18:20 +0000
                    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-23 22:36 +0000
                      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-23 21:44 -0800
                      Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-24 14:23 +0100
    Re: “What a Linux root user can do - and 8 ways you should absolutely never use it” Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-01-21 09:12 +0100

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#81609

On 24/01/2026 13:22, Marc Haber wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Yet more personal attacks from the netgroup Nazi
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law  10/10.
> 

Oh, are people still quoting THAT?


-- 
It is the folly of too many to mistake the echo of a London coffee-house 
for the voice of the kingdom.

Jonathan Swift

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#81618

On 2026-01-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 24/01/2026 13:22, Marc Haber wrote:
>
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Yet more personal attacks from the netgroup Nazi
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law  10/10.
>
> Oh, are people still quoting THAT?

Rather than actual quotes, I've been noticing that people
are simply keeping a discreet distance from that little
fellow with the funny moustache.  But they all know who
they're talking about.

Meanwhile, my wife is watching documentaries about Nazi Germany.
The parallels with today's situation are scary.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#81621

{Note Followups-To} ==== means ====> do not post on comp.os.linux.misc

On 2026-01-25 18:14, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-01-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 24/01/2026 13:22, Marc Haber wrote:
>>
>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yet more personal attacks from the netgroup Nazi
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law  10/10.
>>
>> Oh, are people still quoting THAT?
> 
> Rather than actual quotes, I've been noticing that people
> are simply keeping a discreet distance from that little
> fellow with the funny moustache.  But they all know who
> they're talking about.
> 
> Meanwhile, my wife is watching documentaries about Nazi Germany.
> The parallels with today's situation are scary.
> 

The son of a friend asked why the Minnesotans aren't activating their 
organised militias, per the 2nd amendment, to defend themselves against 
the federal government.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#81622

On 1/25/26 12:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
> {Note Followups-To} ==== means ====> do not post on comp.os.linux.misc
> 
> On 2026-01-25 18:14, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2026-01-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 24/01/2026 13:22, Marc Haber wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yet more personal attacks from the netgroup Nazi
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law  10/10.
>>>
>>> Oh, are people still quoting THAT?
>>
>> Rather than actual quotes, I've been noticing that people
>> are simply keeping a discreet distance from that little
>> fellow with the funny moustache.  But they all know who
>> they're talking about.
>>
>> Meanwhile, my wife is watching documentaries about Nazi Germany.
>> The parallels with today's situation are scary.
>>
> 
> The son of a friend asked why the Minnesotans aren't activating their 
> organised militias, per the 2nd amendment, to defend themselves against 
> the federal government.
> 

	Because being sane they are aware that the Federal Government has
more soldiers under arms, more military equipment and ammunition than
any state.  The Conferacy did not keep good track of their resources versus
the Union. This is sort of like the idea in Japan before WW II that said 
that
the will of committed fighters could outweigh any disadvantage of arms. So
the National Guard is being used to maintain order so that the Federales
will not be visiting soon.
         ICE must be defunded and reorganized around people who respect
the Constitution and Laws in accordance with that Constitution.  Then
the Constitution must be Amended according to those rules to exclude
sociopaths like Trump and Miller from offices higher than Dog Catcher.

	Just my opinon - not based in knowlege of what the future may
bring.  But I think the Secret Service should actualize their Oaths to
the Constitution and remove Trump from Office as he is daily
attacking that Constitution.  But then I was military and swore that
Oath while Mr. Trump cannot remember what he swore from the
inaugruration to the 4th of July.
	
	bliss - 88 yoa working on 89.

	

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#81633

On 25/01/2026 17:14, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-01-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 24/01/2026 13:22, Marc Haber wrote:
>>
>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yet more personal attacks from the netgroup Nazi
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law  10/10.
>>
>> Oh, are people still quoting THAT?
> 
> Rather than actual quotes, I've been noticing that people
> are simply keeping a discreet distance from that little
> fellow with the funny moustache.  But they all know who
> they're talking about.
> 
> Meanwhile, my wife is watching documentaries about Nazi Germany.
> The parallels with today's situation are scary.
> 

Well yes.

Doesn't matter where you look, a bunch of screaming propagandists are 
telling you how fucking great they are and how its all someone else's fault.

In single party states it's just one set of people. If there are more 
parties then they are all doubling down



-- 
“It is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of 
making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people 
who pay no price for being wrong.”

Thomas Sowell

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#81564

On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 15:00:40 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I hate to say it, but Windows works that way. Are we worse than
> them, we don't trust our tools to work properly? >:-)

And Windows is notorious for its never-ending litany of security
holes, while Linux has steadily become the rock-solid foundation of
the entire Internet infrastructure.

Coincidence? You be the judge.

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#81570

On 2026-01-23 22:00, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 15:00:40 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> I hate to say it, but Windows works that way. Are we worse than
>> them, we don't trust our tools to work properly? >:-)
> 
> And Windows is notorious for its never-ending litany of security
> holes, while Linux has steadily become the rock-solid foundation of
> the entire Internet infrastructure.
> 
> Coincidence? You be the judge.

Oh, I install Windows for people giving them only the user password. But 
I have the administrator password, and use it. I am the administrator of 
that machine.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#81575

On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 15:00:40 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:


>> And, does that still work with wayland?
> 
> No idea, I don't have any machine with it.

I can't address your OpenSUSE configuration but on Ubuntu 'sudo su -' 
starts a tty session with no display.

root@kropotkin:~# gvim
E233: Cannot open display

gVim fails and brings up Vim.

The Linux Mint laptop, which is x11, also reports root can open a display.

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#81595

On 2026-01-23 23:30, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 15:00:40 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
> 
>>> And, does that still work with wayland?
>>
>> No idea, I don't have any machine with it.
> 
> I can't address your OpenSUSE configuration but on Ubuntu 'sudo su -'
> starts a tty session with no display.

Where exactly do you type 'sudo su -'?

I ask because my custom is to run such commands on a terminal, so I 
don't understand your sentence.

> root@kropotkin:~# gvim
> E233: Cannot open display
> 
> gVim fails and brings up Vim.
> 
> The Linux Mint laptop, which is x11, also reports root can open a display.

can or can't? :-?


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#81604

On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 14:21:23 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2026-01-23 23:30, rbowman wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 15:00:40 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>> And, does that still work with wayland?
>>>
>>> No idea, I don't have any machine with it.
>> 
>> I can't address your OpenSUSE configuration but on Ubuntu 'sudo su -'
>> starts a tty session with no display.
> 
> Where exactly do you type 'sudo su -'?
> 
> I ask because my custom is to run such commands on a terminal, so I
> don't understand your sentence.

Specifically, konsole 25.8.1 on Ubuntu, konsole 25,12,1 on Fedora and 
Endeavour (Arch).   On Ubuntu and Endeavour attempting to open a GUI 
fails. On Fedora, Dolphin does start with a notice that running it as root 
is not advisable.

Also, on Ubuntu I am in the 'sudo' group and on the other two 'wheel'. 
Just how sudo is set up depends on the distro. 

>> The Linux Mint laptop, which is x11, also reports root can open a
>> display.
> 
> can or can't? :-?

Can not. That one uses gnome-terminal but is derived from Ubuntu  and uses 
the 'sudo' group.

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#81615

On 2026-01-24 22:05, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 14:21:23 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-01-23 23:30, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 15:00:40 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> And, does that still work with wayland?
>>>>
>>>> No idea, I don't have any machine with it.
>>>
>>> I can't address your OpenSUSE configuration but on Ubuntu 'sudo su -'
>>> starts a tty session with no display.
>>
>> Where exactly do you type 'sudo su -'?
>>
>> I ask because my custom is to run such commands on a terminal, so I
>> don't understand your sentence.
> 
> Specifically, konsole 25.8.1 on Ubuntu, konsole 25,12,1 on Fedora and
> Endeavour (Arch).   On Ubuntu and Endeavour attempting to open a GUI
> fails. On Fedora, Dolphin does start with a notice that running it as root
> is not advisable.
> 
> Also, on Ubuntu I am in the 'sudo' group and on the other two 'wheel'.
> Just how sudo is set up depends on the distro.

Leap 16.0, XFCE, in a terminal:

carlos@Gollum:~> sudo su -
Gollum:~ #

No new terminal. No password asked! I am in the wheel group.

> 
>>> The Linux Mint laptop, which is x11, also reports root can open a
>>> display.
>>
>> can or can't? :-?
> 
> Can not. That one uses gnome-terminal but is derived from Ubuntu  and uses
> the 'sudo' group.
> 
> 


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#81591

Le 23-01-2026, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit :
> On 2026-01-23 12:32, Marc Haber wrote:
>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> I never noticed any issue.
>> 
>> Those, said in regard to security vulnerability, qualifies as "famous
>> last word". I hope you were mocking us saying that.
>
> Not really. If something happens, it is a bug and I report it. :-)
>
>
> I hate to say it, but Windows works that way. Are we worse than them, we 
> don't trust our tools to work properly?  >:-)

Well, on Windows, there is something that's called an antivirus. It's
mandatory. It's useless on Linux except if you have a server designed to
let Windows users download and upload files on it. Maybe there is
something here to consider about trust on Windows.

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#81594

On 2026-01-24 12:31, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 23-01-2026, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit :
>> On 2026-01-23 12:32, Marc Haber wrote:
>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> I never noticed any issue.
>>>
>>> Those, said in regard to security vulnerability, qualifies as "famous
>>> last word". I hope you were mocking us saying that.
>>
>> Not really. If something happens, it is a bug and I report it. :-)
>>
>>
>> I hate to say it, but Windows works that way. Are we worse than them, we
>> don't trust our tools to work properly?  >:-)
> 
> Well, on Windows, there is something that's called an antivirus. It's
> mandatory. It's useless on Linux except if you have a server designed to
> let Windows users download and upload files on it. Maybe there is
> something here to consider about trust on Windows.

Why would I need an antivirus, unless I connect to internet? I don't 
connect to Internet as root.

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#81536

Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 20:15:09 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> I don't see a need to prohibit root opening a graphical session.
>
>The problem with logging into a GUI session as root is GUI tools are
>notoriously buggy. Root privilege already makes it so easy to invoke
>actions you didn’t mean to; the greater complexity of GUI apps just
>takes the potential for unexpected side-effects to a whole new level.

Amen.

Greetings
Marc
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#81518

On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 17:50:12 +0100, Andreas Eder wrote:

> Have you ever heard of screen or tmux?

Useful for remote access, so I don’t need more than one SSH connection
to the machine.

Not so convenient locally.

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#81551

Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 21:06 this Thursday (GMT):
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 17:50:12 +0100, Andreas Eder wrote:
>
>> Have you ever heard of screen or tmux?
>
> Useful for remote access, so I don’t need more than one SSH connection
> to the machine.
>
> Not so convenient locally.


They're also useful if you want to have a process running without being
signed in on a remote server, since you can detach/reattach the screen
freely.
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#81517

On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 13:08:31 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> One? I'm talking about opening a dozen terminals as root.

That many?? I may have a couple dozen terminal sessions open at the
moment, but I don’t normally feel the need for more than 2-3 root
ones.

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#81522

On 2026-01-22 22:05, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 13:08:31 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> One? I'm talking about opening a dozen terminals as root.
> 
> That many?? I may have a couple dozen terminal sessions open at the
> moment, but I don’t normally feel the need for more than 2-3 root
> ones.

On installation day, yes, I may need to do many things as root. Install 
tools and services, configure them, copy or move files

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#81538

Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 13:08:31 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> One? I'm talking about opening a dozen terminals as root.
>
>That many?? I may have a couple dozen terminal sessions open at the
>moment, but I don’t normally feel the need for more than 2-3 root
>ones.

I didn't have a single root session open in months.

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#81542

On 23/01/2026 11:32, Marc Haber wrote:
> Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 13:08:31 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> One? I'm talking about opening a dozen terminals as root.
>>
>> That many?? I may have a couple dozen terminal sessions open at the
>> moment, but I don’t normally feel the need for more than 2-3 root
>> ones.
> 
> I didn't have a single root session open in months.
> 
They didn't trust you with the password?

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