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Re: Recent history of vi

Started byJohnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se>
First post2025-11-27 20:10 +0100
Last post2025-12-13 08:25 +0000
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  Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 20:10 +0100
    Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-27 20:19 +0000
      Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:44 +0100
    Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:44 +0000
      Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-28 07:54 -0500
      Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-28 22:10 +0100
        Re: Recent history of vi David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> - 2025-11-29 13:13 +1300
          Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-29 02:57 +0000
          Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:35 +0100
            Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:45 +0000
            Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-29 15:06 +0000
        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:20 +0000
          Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-29 12:45 -0700
            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:37 +0000
              Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 11:06 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:20 +0000
                  Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 08:54 +0000
                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:22 +0000
                    Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:55 +0000
                      Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:44 +0000
                      Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 23:35 +0100
                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 01:48 +0000
                          Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-14 20:00 +0000
                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:43 +0000
                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 02:40 -0500
                              Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:48 +0000
                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 21:43 +0000
                            Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:45 +0000
                          Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:44 +0000
                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:17 +0000
                            Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:55 +0000
                              Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:57 +0100
                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 23:27 -0500
                          Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-14 11:56 +0000
                            Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:29 +0000
                              Re: Python mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2025-12-15 12:57 +0000
                                Re: Python Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-15 22:57 +0100
                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:31 -0500
                                  Re: Python Greg Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2025-12-16 17:51 +1300
                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 08:32 +0000
                                Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:45 +0000
                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:54 +0000
                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 03:11 -0500
                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 19:17 +0000
                                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:10 -0500
                                          Re: Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-18 03:28 +0000
                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 23:02 -0500
                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:54 +0000
                                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-18 04:25 -0500
                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 19:22 +0000
                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 01:14 -0500
                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:44 +0000
                                          Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 07:40 -0700
                                            Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 18:00 +0000
                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:28 +0000
                                              Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 12:52 -0700
                                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 03:53 +0000
                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:37 -0500
                                              Re: Python "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 10:32 -0600
                                                Re: Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-03-04 20:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-04 21:29 +0100
                                                    Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 20:37 +0000
                                                    Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 14:09 -0700
                                                      Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:35 +0000
                                                        Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 23:10 +0000
                                                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-04 20:30 -0500
                                                        Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 20:13 -0700
                                                          Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:49 +0000
                                                          Re: Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 17:42 +0000
                                                            Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-05 20:02 +0100
                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-05 14:42 -0500
                                                              Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 00:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Python Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2026-03-06 09:02 +0000
                                                      Re: Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 02:44 +0000
                                                        Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:50 +0000
                                                    Re: Python Piergiorgio Sartor <piergiorgio.sartor.this.should.not.be.used@nexgo.REMOVETHIS.de> - 2026-03-04 22:14 +0100
                                                      Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:20 +0000
                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:29 -0500
                                            Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 12:38 +0100
                                  Re: Python Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 16:17 -0500
                                    Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:11 +0000
                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:18 -0500
                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 07:07 +0000
                                    Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:13 +0000
                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 00:52 +0000
                                        Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-18 08:03 +0100
                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 07:39 +0000
                                            Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-18 15:43 +0000
                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:38 +0000
                                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:56 -0500
                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 08:18 +0000
                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 03:30 -0500
                                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:38 +0000
                                                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:01 -0500
                                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:08 +0000
                                                            Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-27 22:36 +0100
                                          Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 09:55 +0000
                                            Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-18 11:19 +0100
                                              Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 12:36 +0000
                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 23:36 -0500
                              Re: Python candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-19 13:30 +0000
                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:50 +0000
                                  Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-19 20:03 +0000
                                    Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 21:00 +0000
                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:16 -0500
                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:15 -0500
                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:14 +0000
                                        Re: Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-21 09:06 -0500
                                          Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-21 18:31 +0000
                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 21:00 +0000
                                            Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-22 07:29 +0100
                                            Linux at work in the old days Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-22 07:20 -0500
                                              Re: Linux at work in the old days rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-22 19:18 +0000
                                                Re: Linux at work in the old days c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:41 -0500
                                                  Re: Linux at work in the old days Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-23 07:26 -0700
                                                    Re: Linux at work in the old days Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-23 20:21 +0000
                                            Re: naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-22 21:26 +0000
                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 00:49 +0000
                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:55 -0500
                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 11:21 +0000
                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 06:34 -0500
                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 12:38 +0000
                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 20:28 +0000
                                                      Re: naughty Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-23 14:21 -0800
                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 23:55 +0000
                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 05:33 -0500
                                                            The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-24 15:49 +0000
                                                              Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-24 23:28 +0000
                                                                Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-12-27 15:29 +0100
                                                                  Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 21:21 +0000
                                                                    Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 23:17 +0000
                                                                      Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-28 04:09 +0000
                                                                      Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2025-12-28 18:00 +0000
                                                            Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 22:22 +0100
                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:06 -0500
                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 04:04 +0000
                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:07 -0500
                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 06:38 +0000
                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 02:31 -0500
                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 17:09 +0000
                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:35 +0000
                                                                      Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 07:33 -0700
                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:59 +0000
                                                                          Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 15:40 -0800
                                                                            Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 01:30 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-30 08:57 -0800
                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 12:51 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:00 +0000
                                                                                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:06 +0000
                                                                            Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 09:38 +0100
                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:11 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-30 07:38 -0700
                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 15:04 +0000
                                                                                  Innovation (was Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-30 21:40 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 22:02 +0000
                                                                          Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 19:23 -0700
                                                                            Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 03:53 +0000
                                                                              OT: incompetence of companies (was: Re: naughty Python) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 10:03 +0000
                                                                                Re: OT: incompetence of companies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:12 +0000
                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 03:14 -0500
                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:18 +0000
                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 21:49 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 19:47 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 01:01 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 03:07 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:45 -0500
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:12 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:11 -0500
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:57 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:13 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:13 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 18:55 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 14:21 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-31 22:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 22:32 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:35 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 22:07 -0500
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:49 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-01 07:28 -0700
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-01 15:55 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:40 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:29 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:18 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 22:22 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:31 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:12 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 07:56 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2026-01-04 09:22 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:16 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:11 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 10:49 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 19:57 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:37 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 04:10 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 23:21 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:28 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:04 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 14:22 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 20:47 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 02:00 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 22:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 08:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2026-01-08 09:57 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 08:57 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-07 09:41 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 10:29 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 07:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 18:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 07:42 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:02 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 20:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 20:58 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:26 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-20 13:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-10 18:23 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:19 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-11 16:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 19:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 12:14 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 20:51 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 17:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 19:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 20:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 21:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 18:05 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 03:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 23:41 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-13 07:41 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 12:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Naughty Cat Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-13 14:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty Cat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 00:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty Cat Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-14 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-13 19:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 00:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Tinned tuna [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:58 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Oil down the drain [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:53 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 20:57 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:34 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 00:37 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 12:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 18:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-13 22:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 01:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-16 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-01-18 12:30 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-13 09:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 08:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:26 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 23:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 06:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-13 04:35 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 15:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 09:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-09 09:19 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 18:48 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:31 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 23:18 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:42 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 22:32 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 20:53 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 11:51 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:20 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:15 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:33 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 09:14 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 12:33 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 11:50 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 13:37 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:19 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:30 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:30 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:40 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:47 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:08 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:18 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:36 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 07:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:33 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 23:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:03 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 07:51 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:38 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:03 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 19:21 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 02:26 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 23:20 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 09:57 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 14:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:15 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 09:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 19:28 -0700
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                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 08:16 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 20:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-10 03:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 00:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 08:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty PL/I (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-10 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 16:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 18:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:31 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:49 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 00:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 18:41 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 20:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 22:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 03:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-11 05:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-11 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-01-11 17:00 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 20:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:52 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 17:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 20:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 20:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 06:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 08:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 14:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 17:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 23:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 01:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 23:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-11 14:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-12 02:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 09:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 13:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-12 14:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 01:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:22 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:41 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:42 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:33 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 22:58 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:27 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 22:54 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 04:09 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:10 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:46 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:19 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 12:39 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:44 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:53 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:17 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:06 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 23:44 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:57 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:56 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:08 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:41 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:59 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 21:00 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 20:09 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 02:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:15 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 15:31 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:39 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 09:25 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 20:35 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:25 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 14:51 -0700
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 21:43 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 23:54 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-01 20:14 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:03 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:02 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 05:59 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 06:01 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 06:58 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 17:14 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 14:58 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 21:11 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:37 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:04 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:24 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:51 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 10:59 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:27 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:54 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 07:10 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:34 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:38 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 08:49 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 18:26 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:08 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:08 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-03 02:47 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-03 07:03 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 06:42 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 20:29 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:14 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 09:43 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-04 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:18 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-04 19:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 11:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 17:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 18:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 17:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-06 07:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 08:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 18:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 05:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 17:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 19:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 12:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 11:12 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 16:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 17:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 19:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 13:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 15:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 17:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 23:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 00:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 21:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-08 01:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 15:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 10:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 11:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 15:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 12:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 11:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:36 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:55 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty PL/I (was Re: Naughty C♯) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                        What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-06 15:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 20:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 22:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 01:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) sean@conman.org - 2026-01-09 00:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-09 04:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 07:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-12 15:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-13 06:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 18:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 18:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 08:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2026-01-07 12:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty Java (was Re: Naughty C♯) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:18 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:09 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:31 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 20:04 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:25 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 15:47 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 09:20 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 18:10 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 23:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 11:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 09:00 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-07 12:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:01 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 20:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 20:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 20:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 15:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:21 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 18:13 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:16 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 19:48 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:37 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:17 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:01 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 07:07 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 11:05 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-03 18:32 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 19:38 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:33 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 15:00 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 19:51 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-03 06:09 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:38 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 16:58 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 08:01 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-04 16:25 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:12 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 07:14 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-04 20:25 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 07:59 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 16:31 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-04 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 20:05 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:17 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 05:57 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 19:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 17:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:36 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-01-06 03:31 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:20 +0000
                                                                                                                            Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-06 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-07 00:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 02:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-07 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 22:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Case-dependent file systems Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-10 14:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-10 14:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Case-dependent file systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 15:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 02:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Case-dependent file systems Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-11 14:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-11 16:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-11 21:38 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Case-dependant file systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 23:09 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Case-dependant file systems "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:17 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Case-dependant file systems The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 13:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Case-dependant file systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:13 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Case-dependant file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:12 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 21:08 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: C structures, was naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 22:41 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: C structures, was naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 15:44 -0800
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:19 -0500
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:08 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 21:57 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 20:07 -0500
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:17 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 00:06 -0500
                                                                                              Re: language design, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 18:30 +0000
                                                                                                Re: language design, naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:15 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: language design, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 20:34 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: language design, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:17 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: language design, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-03 07:11 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: language design, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 19:46 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: language design, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 06:45 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 03:05 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:42 -0500
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:55 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:12 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:03 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 14:50 -0500
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:39 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:21 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 15:08 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-31 15:38 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 20:41 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 00:55 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 22:11 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 13:09 +0000
                                                                                                    The Egg (was: Re: naughty Python) vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-02 01:54 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:10 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:39 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 07:51 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:34 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:12 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:17 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 11:46 -0500
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:28 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 21:50 -0500
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:37 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 01:15 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:35 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 20:02 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:23 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:16 -0500
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 10:30 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 19:00 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 19:12 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 20:10 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:37 +0100
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 03:23 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 04:56 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:24 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:32 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-01-02 13:06 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 09:41 -0500
                                                                                                  Electronic calculators "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:57 +0100
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:36 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 01:07 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:36 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-03 08:50 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 10:54 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-03 07:39 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 14:22 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:14 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 07:57 -0700
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-03 18:34 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:47 +0100
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:27 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-03 14:24 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 14:08 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:48 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:01 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 02:53 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 03:24 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 05:04 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 13:15 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:44 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 07:43 -0700
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 10:06 -0500
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 17:41 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:04 -0500
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2026-01-03 08:01 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 20:56 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:44 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 20:05 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 15:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:21 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-03 02:12 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-03 03:15 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 14:25 -0500
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-01 23:35 -0500
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:35 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:13 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:46 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 19:58 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 01:03 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:34 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:19 +0100
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:26 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:17 +0000
                                                                Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:27 +0100
                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:34 +0000
                                                                Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 09:53 -0800
                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:37 +0100
                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 02:56 -0500
                                                                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-30 18:53 +0000
                                                            Re: naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-29 04:43 +0000
                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:22 -0500
                                                              Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:34 +0100
                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 12:41 +0000
                                                            Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-24 23:28 +0000
                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 21:30 -0500
                                                                Intellectuals (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-25 22:05 +0000
                                                                  Re: Intellectuals (Re: naughty Python) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-25 22:20 -0500
                                                                    Re: Intellectuals (Re: naughty Python) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-26 07:02 +0000
                                                                      Re: Intellectuals (Re: naughty Python) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-26 02:16 -0500
                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 12:40 +0000
                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 12:32 +0000
                                        Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-27 22:40 +0100
                                          Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 23:21 +0000
                                          Re: Python dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-12-28 02:05 +0100
                                          Re: Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-27 18:16 -0800
                                            Re: Python dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-12-28 04:59 +0100
                                              Re: Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-28 08:32 -0800
                                            Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 13:48 +0100
                                              Re: Python dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-12-28 14:14 +0100
                                            Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:42 +0100
                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-28 17:41 +0000
                                            Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 22:11 +0100
                                              Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-28 22:06 +0000
                                                Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 23:30 +0100
                                                  Re: Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 10:47 +0000
                                                    Re: Python Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-12-29 11:11 +0000
                                                    Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-04 14:15 +0000
                                                      Re: Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 16:34 +0000
                                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:23 -0500
                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 04:15 +0000
                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:17 -0500
                                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 06:40 +0000
                                                        Re: Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-28 23:20 -0800
                                                          Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 10:42 +0000
                                                            Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 07:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 15:52 +0000
                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 11:12 -0500
                                                                Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 20:48 +0000
                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 02:58 -0500
                                                                    Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 10:03 +0000
                                                                      Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:06 +0000
                                                              Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 17:28 +0000
                                                                Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:50 +0100
                                                                  Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:06 +0000
                                                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 01:13 -0500
                                                                  Re: Python Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-30 08:08 +0000
                                                                    Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:14 +0000
                                                                      Re: Python Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-12-30 12:43 +0000
                                                                      Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 17:34 +0000
                                                                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 15:55 -0500
                                                                          Re: one time pads, not Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 04:55 +0000
                                                                            Re: one time pads, not Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 09:15 +0000
                                                                              Re: one time pads, not Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:45 -0500
                                                                              Re: one time pads, not Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 20:59 +0000
                                                                                Re: one time pads, not Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:17 +0000
                                                                                  Re: one time pads, not Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:26 +0000
                                                                                    Re: one time pads, not Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 11:45 +0000
                                                                                      Re: one time pads, not Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:56 +0000
                                                                            Re: one time pads, not Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:14 -0500
                                                                  Re: Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-30 18:46 +0000
                                                                    Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 15:43 -0500
                                                              Re: “Quantum” Computing (was Re: Python) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:56 +0000
                                                                Re: “Quantum” Computing (was Re: Python) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 03:17 -0500
                                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 17:15 +0000
                                                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 02:52 -0500
                                                          Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:40 +0000
                                                          Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 07:29 -0700
                                                            Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 16:27 +0000
                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 02:52 -0500
                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:00 +0000
                                    Re: Python candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-23 16:00 +0000
                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 20:30 +0000
                                        Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-23 21:14 +0000
                              Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 20:57 +0000
                                Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:09 +0000
                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:37 +0000
                                  Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-20 10:34 +0000
                                  Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 11:45 +0000
                                    Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-20 13:32 +0000
                                    Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 16:36 +0000
                                      Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 16:37 +0000
                          Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:16 +0100
                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 00:45 -0500
                          Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:55 +0000
                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:39 +0000
                            Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:53 +0000
                      Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 02:05 +0000
                        Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-19 13:30 +0000
                          Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-19 20:58 +0000
                            Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:48 +0000
                          Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 10:12 +0000
                            Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 05:25 -0500
                              Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:22 +0000
                            Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 22:28 +0000
                            Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:25 +0000
                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:39 +0000
                        Re: Recent history of vi John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2025-12-15 19:46 +0100
                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:54 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 18:33 +0000
                  Re: Recent history of vi David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> - 2025-12-01 11:09 +1300
                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:23 +0000
              Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 12:29 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 13:23 +0000
                  Re: Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:56 +0000
                    Re: Recent history of vi David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> - 2025-12-01 11:18 +1300
                      Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-01 01:55 +0100
            Re: Recent history of vi Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-11-30 13:29 +0100
              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:25 +0000

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#81052 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-13 06:32 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<msm77tFm3moU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#81029
On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 23:41:03 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On the other hand, this coming July 4 sounds like an appropriate time to
> wind up the Great Experiment.  Two hundred and fifty years to the day...

April 19th of last year would have been better.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Whittemore

My hero. I'm a little better armed than he.

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#81066 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromHarold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain>
Date2026-01-13 04:35 -0600
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<slrn10mc801.1376.wookie@aspen.localdomain>
In reply to#81029
In <jEf9R.2212580$Pf33.1251031@fx18.iad> Charlie Gibbs:

[Snip...}

> Perhaps, but it's so much _fun_ (if you're into that sort of thing).

There's always at least one lunatic who insists the war partying
fun go on indefinitely ...

The Smell of Napalm In the Morning (Apocalypse Now)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k26hmRbDQFw

It's an Egg (Catch-22)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0UV6ug96c0

-- 
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Pardon any bogus email addresses (wookie) in place for spambots.
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#81354 — Re: naughty Pascal

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-01-20 15:38 +0100
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<ljg44mxkcf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#81066
On 2026-01-13 11:35, Harold Stevens wrote:
> In <jEf9R.2212580$Pf33.1251031@fx18.iad> Charlie Gibbs:
> 
> [Snip...}
> 
>> Perhaps, but it's so much _fun_ (if you're into that sort of thing).
> 
> There's always at least one lunatic who insists the war partying
> fun go on indefinitely ...
> 
> The Smell of Napalm In the Morning (Apocalypse Now)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k26hmRbDQFw

Video unavailable
The uploader has not made this video available in your country

> 
> It's an Egg (Catch-22)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0UV6ug96c0
> 

:-)

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#80817 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2026-01-09 09:36 -0800
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<20260109093631.00001991@gmail.com>
In reply to#80790
On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 20:13:42 -0800
John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote:

> All of history's successive tides shaped the world we know today, and
> all the things happening now will shape what comes after; that is, as
> they say, the way of things.

(In retrospect, it's funny that this discussion came up in the context
of a culture that has a whole entire phrase - mono no aware - for the
poignant beauty of transience...)

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#80799 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-09 06:58 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<msbn9jFtd0nU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80788
On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 22:15:11 -0500, c186282 wrote:

>    However Japan IS a bit different ... their geographics did let them
>    build a kind of singular culture over a very long period.

Their culture doesn't like to examine its roots. If it wasn't for Koreans 
teaching them how to grow rice they'd still be eating millet. The 
calligraphy is mostly Chinese eve if it is pronounced differently. Shinto 
is homegrown but Buddhism came from the west. 

That's not to say there weren't tweaks. Avalokiteshvara had a sex change 
and became Kannon, who has overtones of Amaterasu, The Kirishitans blended 
Kannon with the Virgin Mary. Very adaptable people.

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#80816 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2026-01-09 09:19 -0800
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jrda6$2hnou$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80799

On 1/8/26 22:58, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 22:15:11 -0500, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     However Japan IS a bit different ... their geographics did let them
>>     build a kind of singular culture over a very long period.
> 
> Their culture doesn't like to examine its roots. If it wasn't for Koreans
> teaching them how to grow rice they'd still be eating millet. The
> calligraphy is mostly Chinese eve if it is pronounced differently. Shinto
> is homegrown but Buddhism came from the west.
> 
> That's not to say there weren't tweaks. Avalokiteshvara had a sex change
> and became Kannon, who has overtones of Amaterasu, The Kirishitans blended
> Kannon with the Virgin Mary. Very adaptable people.
> 
	China was the most powerful and cultured nation in the earliest days
of Japan and so it tried to copy or emulate the Chinese organization and
civilization as soon they began to learn about them and got over the
habit of moving capitals frequently.  They confusingly used Chinese
characters in two different ways but soon enough they developed their
own syllabary in two modes one for native sounds and one for the
strange sounds of foreign works using very similar characters.  They
still use the Chinese characters to indicate how words should be
pronounced as superscripts. I tried to study Japanese about 20 years
ago but gave up as my brain fog from exertions left me without
adequate working memory.

	bliss

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#80655 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<i7n7R.1472894$79B9.893571@fx14.iad>
In reply to#80640
On 2026-01-07, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

> On 1/6/26 17:22, John Ames wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 16:04:17 -0500
>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd forgotten ... p-System was the "3rd OS" offered for the original
>>> IBM-PC. Alas it was over-priced and under- performing, so ....
>> 
>> Yeah - a forgotten entry in the saga of write-once-run-anywhere dreams,
>> right up there with Java workstations...
>
>    Well, I'm glad people THINK of such things ... alas
>    all attempts have been for naught. 'Generic solutions'
>    require too many compromises.
>
>    The TRUE 'All-Everything System' will be the AIs.
>    This may NOT be such a great thing, but with the
>    TRILLIONS invested it's GOING to be The Thing.
>    'Thin' clients plugged only into the Higher
>    Intelligence.

It's ironic watching the industry change from centralized
systems in the '60s and '70s (due to the high cost of
electronics) to distributed systems starting in the '80s,
only to have it come full circle now.  The difference is
that rather than cost, the driving factor is centralized
control.

>    Unaccountable People You Don't Know will be in charge
>    of tasking and biasing the Higher Intelligence for
>    awhile - then it'll start taking care of itself.
>
>    Wait, watch, see.

Fasten your seatbelts, folks.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#80663 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-07 09:55 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jlaht$h5hi$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80655
On 07/01/2026 06:33, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> It's ironic watching the industry change from centralized
> systems in the '60s and '70s (due to the high cost of
> electronics) to distributed systems starting in the '80s,
> only to have it come full circle now.  The difference is
> that rather than cost, the driving factor is centralized
> control.

It is all down to the relative cost of hardware, speed of comms links 
and need to upgrade. The marketing advantage of renting peoples data 
back to them and using it to bombard them with adverts for things they 
just bought already, came later.



-- 
Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich 
people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason 
they are poor.

Peter Thompson

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#80706 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-07 21:46 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<ms82h2Fb1hnU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80655
On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 06:33:50 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> It's ironic watching the industry change from centralized systems in the
> '60s and '70s (due to the high cost of electronics) to distributed
> systems starting in the '80s,
> only to have it come full circle now.  The difference is that rather
> than cost, the driving factor is centralized control.

The game has changed a bit as anyone who suffered through a time-sharing 
system will affirm. Nothing like trying to trying to run a cross assembler 
on a VAX when accounting is doing the payroll.

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#80722 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<WOG7R.1062269$u2q8.1038748@fx11.iad>
In reply to#80706
On 2026-01-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 07 Jan 2026 06:33:50 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> It's ironic watching the industry change from centralized systems in the
>> '60s and '70s (due to the high cost of electronics) to distributed
>> systems starting in the '80s,
>> only to have it come full circle now.  The difference is that rather
>> than cost, the driving factor is centralized control.
>
> The game has changed a bit as anyone who suffered through a time-sharing 
> system will affirm. Nothing like trying to trying to run a cross assembler 
> on a VAX when accounting is doing the payroll.

<FourYorkshiremen>
Time-sharing?  Luxury!
</FourYorkshiremen>

In my first job I had to beg for time on our non-multitasking machine,
and since production took priority over development I often had a long
wait; I did some of my most productive stuff after hours.

Even getting time on a keypunch could be hard.  We eventually got a
little manual punch.  It was even more primitive than the IBM 001;
there was a single die which you slid up and down to the desired row.
I affixed a tag to it: "Programmers have priority on this punch!"

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#80713 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-01-07 18:48 -0500
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<E5mcnWZDiv0nbcP0nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#80655
On 1/7/26 01:33, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-01-07, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 1/6/26 17:22, John Ames wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 16:04:17 -0500
>>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd forgotten ... p-System was the "3rd OS" offered for the original
>>>> IBM-PC. Alas it was over-priced and under- performing, so ....
>>>
>>> Yeah - a forgotten entry in the saga of write-once-run-anywhere dreams,
>>> right up there with Java workstations...
>>
>>     Well, I'm glad people THINK of such things ... alas
>>     all attempts have been for naught. 'Generic solutions'
>>     require too many compromises.
>>
>>     The TRUE 'All-Everything System' will be the AIs.
>>     This may NOT be such a great thing, but with the
>>     TRILLIONS invested it's GOING to be The Thing.
>>     'Thin' clients plugged only into the Higher
>>     Intelligence.
> 
> It's ironic watching the industry change from centralized
> systems in the '60s and '70s (due to the high cost of
> electronics) to distributed systems starting in the '80s,
> only to have it come full circle now.  The difference is
> that rather than cost, the driving factor is centralized
> control.


   Don't forget the "Bill By The Byte" aspect  :-)


>>     Unaccountable People You Don't Know will be in charge
>>     of tasking and biasing the Higher Intelligence for
>>     awhile - then it'll start taking care of itself.
>>
>>     Wait, watch, see.
> 
> Fasten your seatbelts, folks.

   It IS about to get WEIRD.

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#80651 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<e7n7R.1472889$79B9.417002@fx14.iad>
In reply to#80620
On 2026-01-06, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

> On 1/6/26 01:28, rbowman wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 04:10:59 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> 
>>> Some degree of UCSD Pascal compatibility was very common among
>>> microcomputer-based implementations.
>> 
>> I remember that being referred to as 'scud pascal'. Dyslexic programmers?
>
>    Heh, maybe  :-)
>
>    But you CAN see why.

Scud missiles were popular around then, weren't they?

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#80677 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromPeter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com>
Date2026-01-07 07:31 -0700
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jlqoc$mvh2$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80620
On 1/6/26 14:04, c186282 wrote:
> On 1/6/26 01:28, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 04:10:59 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> Some degree of UCSD Pascal compatibility was very common among
>>> microcomputer-based implementations.
>>
>> I remember that being referred to as 'scud pascal'. Dyslexic programmers?
> 
>    Heh, maybe  :-)
> 
>    But you CAN see why.
> 
>    I think the idea was to make a 'generic' interpreted
>    Pascal that could be run on many different kinds of
>    machines. BASIC was widespread, but kinda ugly, and
>    'C' was too cryptic.
> 
>    The modern UCSD 'Pascal' wound up being Python.
> 
>    I'd forgotten ... p-System was the "3rd OS" offered for
>    the original IBM-PC. Alas it was over-priced and under-
>    performing, so ....
> 

Source available on Bitsavers.

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#80558 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-01-05 23:18 -0500
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<T6idneCI_LyoEMH0nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#80553
On 1/5/26 22:37, Peter Flass wrote:
> On 1/5/26 17:57, c186282 wrote:
>> On 1/5/26 13:49, John Ames wrote:
>>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 08:31:33 +0000
>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "The statement "Pascal has no I/O" originates from
>>>> Brian Kernighan’s 1981 essay, "Why Pascal is Not My Favorite
>>>> Programming Language".
>>>>
>>>> Kernighan argued that the original 1970 definition of Pascal was
>>>> severely limited for systems programming because:
>>>
>>> Yeah, that was it - not *no* I/O in the sense that was true of Algol,
>>> but weird and constrained in ways that betray its origins as a teaching
>>> language. Mainly, files are assumed to be of a uniform structure; you
>>> can have a FILE OF CHAR or a FILE OF INTEGER, but not a file containing
>>> both strings and integers. If you want to do *that,* you're supposed to
>>> make a struct and have a FILE OF that, but this too has to be the same
>>> across the whole thing. Files of mixed or variable structure? Who uses
>>> *those!?*
>>>
>>> Like many of Wirth's design choices, it sounds simple on paper but is
>>> unnecessarily confining in the Real World - and, as Kernighan points
>>> out, there were no "escape hatches" for extending the language from
>>> within, leading to a bunch of proprietary and mutually-incompatible
>>> variants. Obviously, it's been decades and the landscape has changed
>>> substantially, but it really was dunderheaded at the time.
>>
>>    Wirth was an 'academic' - and Pascal/M2/M3 kind
>>    of reflect that.
>>
>>    However it WAS easy to extend the language - add in
>>    those Real World necessities. By the time Turbo Pascal
>>    hit the scene there really wasn't anything you could
>>    not do with Pascal.
>>
>>    And I still write in Pascal fairly often - like
>>    it better than 'C'.
>>
> 
> I'm not sure to what extent there was an attempt early on to standardize 
> the extensions, but this would have helped adoption of the language 
> immensely.

   Turbo Pascal kinda set the Better Standard LONG back.

   For Linux (and Win), this continues with FPC.

   GNU Pascal also supports inline ASM, but in a
   slightly different format.

   Anyway, you COULD write an OS in Pascal. Maybe
   someone has, dunno.

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#80580 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromPeter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com>
Date2026-01-06 07:42 -0700
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jj70s$3sddl$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80558
On 1/5/26 21:18, c186282 wrote:
> On 1/5/26 22:37, Peter Flass wrote:
>> On 1/5/26 17:57, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 1/5/26 13:49, John Ames wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 08:31:33 +0000
>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "The statement "Pascal has no I/O" originates from
>>>>> Brian Kernighan’s 1981 essay, "Why Pascal is Not My Favorite
>>>>> Programming Language".
>>>>>
>>>>> Kernighan argued that the original 1970 definition of Pascal was
>>>>> severely limited for systems programming because:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, that was it - not *no* I/O in the sense that was true of Algol,
>>>> but weird and constrained in ways that betray its origins as a teaching
>>>> language. Mainly, files are assumed to be of a uniform structure; you
>>>> can have a FILE OF CHAR or a FILE OF INTEGER, but not a file containing
>>>> both strings and integers. If you want to do *that,* you're supposed to
>>>> make a struct and have a FILE OF that, but this too has to be the same
>>>> across the whole thing. Files of mixed or variable structure? Who uses
>>>> *those!?*
>>>>
>>>> Like many of Wirth's design choices, it sounds simple on paper but is
>>>> unnecessarily confining in the Real World - and, as Kernighan points
>>>> out, there were no "escape hatches" for extending the language from
>>>> within, leading to a bunch of proprietary and mutually-incompatible
>>>> variants. Obviously, it's been decades and the landscape has changed
>>>> substantially, but it really was dunderheaded at the time.
>>>
>>>    Wirth was an 'academic' - and Pascal/M2/M3 kind
>>>    of reflect that.
>>>
>>>    However it WAS easy to extend the language - add in
>>>    those Real World necessities. By the time Turbo Pascal
>>>    hit the scene there really wasn't anything you could
>>>    not do with Pascal.
>>>
>>>    And I still write in Pascal fairly often - like
>>>    it better than 'C'.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure to what extent there was an attempt early on to 
>> standardize the extensions, but this would have helped adoption of the 
>> language immensely.
> 
>    Turbo Pascal kinda set the Better Standard LONG back.
> 
>    For Linux (and Win), this continues with FPC.
> 
>    GNU Pascal also supports inline ASM, but in a
>    slightly different format.
> 
>    Anyway, you COULD write an OS in Pascal. Maybe
>    someone has, dunno.
> 

I think Brinch-Hansen used Modula-2.

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#80615 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-01-06 20:01 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jjpm8$3iqe$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80580
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 07:42:36 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:

> I think Brinch-Hansen used Modula-2.

Didn’t he create his own language, called “Edison”?

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#80676 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromPeter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com>
Date2026-01-07 07:27 -0700
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jlqge$mvh2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80615
On 1/6/26 13:01, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 07:42:36 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:
> 
>> I think Brinch-Hansen used Modula-2.
> 
> Didn’t he create his own language, called “Edison”?

Apparently. I have a copy of his _Operating System Principles_ from many 
moons ago.

I recently came across this site:
http://pascal.hansotten.com/per-brinch-hansen/

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#80630 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromantispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch)
Date2026-01-06 22:32 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jk2i8$1d1nr$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#80580
In alt.folklore.computers Peter Flass <Peter@iron-spring.com> wrote:
> On 1/5/26 21:18, c186282 wrote:
>> On 1/5/26 22:37, Peter Flass wrote:
>>> On 1/5/26 17:57, c186282 wrote:
>>>> On 1/5/26 13:49, John Ames wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 08:31:33 +0000
>>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "The statement "Pascal has no I/O" originates from
>>>>>> Brian Kernighan’s 1981 essay, "Why Pascal is Not My Favorite
>>>>>> Programming Language".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kernighan argued that the original 1970 definition of Pascal was
>>>>>> severely limited for systems programming because:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, that was it - not *no* I/O in the sense that was true of Algol,
>>>>> but weird and constrained in ways that betray its origins as a teaching
>>>>> language. Mainly, files are assumed to be of a uniform structure; you
>>>>> can have a FILE OF CHAR or a FILE OF INTEGER, but not a file containing
>>>>> both strings and integers. If you want to do *that,* you're supposed to
>>>>> make a struct and have a FILE OF that, but this too has to be the same
>>>>> across the whole thing. Files of mixed or variable structure? Who uses
>>>>> *those!?*
>>>>>
>>>>> Like many of Wirth's design choices, it sounds simple on paper but is
>>>>> unnecessarily confining in the Real World - and, as Kernighan points
>>>>> out, there were no "escape hatches" for extending the language from
>>>>> within, leading to a bunch of proprietary and mutually-incompatible
>>>>> variants. Obviously, it's been decades and the landscape has changed
>>>>> substantially, but it really was dunderheaded at the time.
>>>>
>>>>    Wirth was an 'academic' - and Pascal/M2/M3 kind
>>>>    of reflect that.
>>>>
>>>>    However it WAS easy to extend the language - add in
>>>>    those Real World necessities. By the time Turbo Pascal
>>>>    hit the scene there really wasn't anything you could
>>>>    not do with Pascal.
>>>>
>>>>    And I still write in Pascal fairly often - like
>>>>    it better than 'C'.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure to what extent there was an attempt early on to 
>>> standardize the extensions, but this would have helped adoption of the 
>>> language immensely.
>> 
>>    Turbo Pascal kinda set the Better Standard LONG back.
>> 
>>    For Linux (and Win), this continues with FPC.
>> 
>>    GNU Pascal also supports inline ASM, but in a
>>    slightly different format.
>> 
>>    Anyway, you COULD write an OS in Pascal. Maybe
>>    someone has, dunno.
>> 
> 
> I think Brinch-Hansen used Modula-2.

I remember name of Concurrent Pascal.  My impression was that
Brinch-Hansen used Concurrent Pascal.

-- 
                              Waldek Hebisch

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#80641 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-01-06 20:53 -0500
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<pRmdnZcvyLQOIcD0nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#80630
On 1/6/26 17:32, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> In alt.folklore.computers Peter Flass <Peter@iron-spring.com> wrote:
>> On 1/5/26 21:18, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 1/5/26 22:37, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> On 1/5/26 17:57, c186282 wrote:
>>>>> On 1/5/26 13:49, John Ames wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 08:31:33 +0000
>>>>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The statement "Pascal has no I/O" originates from
>>>>>>> Brian Kernighan’s 1981 essay, "Why Pascal is Not My Favorite
>>>>>>> Programming Language".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kernighan argued that the original 1970 definition of Pascal was
>>>>>>> severely limited for systems programming because:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, that was it - not *no* I/O in the sense that was true of Algol,
>>>>>> but weird and constrained in ways that betray its origins as a teaching
>>>>>> language. Mainly, files are assumed to be of a uniform structure; you
>>>>>> can have a FILE OF CHAR or a FILE OF INTEGER, but not a file containing
>>>>>> both strings and integers. If you want to do *that,* you're supposed to
>>>>>> make a struct and have a FILE OF that, but this too has to be the same
>>>>>> across the whole thing. Files of mixed or variable structure? Who uses
>>>>>> *those!?*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like many of Wirth's design choices, it sounds simple on paper but is
>>>>>> unnecessarily confining in the Real World - and, as Kernighan points
>>>>>> out, there were no "escape hatches" for extending the language from
>>>>>> within, leading to a bunch of proprietary and mutually-incompatible
>>>>>> variants. Obviously, it's been decades and the landscape has changed
>>>>>> substantially, but it really was dunderheaded at the time.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Wirth was an 'academic' - and Pascal/M2/M3 kind
>>>>>     of reflect that.
>>>>>
>>>>>     However it WAS easy to extend the language - add in
>>>>>     those Real World necessities. By the time Turbo Pascal
>>>>>     hit the scene there really wasn't anything you could
>>>>>     not do with Pascal.
>>>>>
>>>>>     And I still write in Pascal fairly often - like
>>>>>     it better than 'C'.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure to what extent there was an attempt early on to
>>>> standardize the extensions, but this would have helped adoption of the
>>>> language immensely.
>>>
>>>     Turbo Pascal kinda set the Better Standard LONG back.
>>>
>>>     For Linux (and Win), this continues with FPC.
>>>
>>>     GNU Pascal also supports inline ASM, but in a
>>>     slightly different format.
>>>
>>>     Anyway, you COULD write an OS in Pascal. Maybe
>>>     someone has, dunno.
>>>
>>
>> I think Brinch-Hansen used Modula-2.
> 
> I remember name of Concurrent Pascal.  My impression was that
> Brinch-Hansen used Concurrent Pascal.

   I think you're right.

   M2 is pretty good, and M3 was kind of the
   spiffed-up version.

   Can't FIND a damned working M3 compiler for
   Linux alas - all options won't install or
   deliver naught but many incomprehensible
   errors.

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#80667 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromcross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Date2026-01-07 11:51 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jlhbq$dl2$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#80630
In article <10jk2i8$1d1nr$1@paganini.bofh.team>,
Waldek Hebisch <antispam@fricas.org> wrote:
>In alt.folklore.computers Peter Flass <Peter@iron-spring.com> wrote:
>> [snip]
>> I think Brinch-Hansen used Modula-2.
>
>I remember name of Concurrent Pascal.  My impression was that
>Brinch-Hansen used Concurrent Pascal.

He used many languages, but Concurrent Pascal was one of them.

Modula-3 was not Wirth; that was DEC research.  Wirth followed
up Modula-2 with Oberon.

	- Dan C.

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