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Re: Recent history of vi

Started byPeter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com>
First post2025-11-29 12:45 -0700
Last post2025-12-13 08:25 +0000
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  Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-29 12:45 -0700
    Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:37 +0000
      Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 11:06 +0000
        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:20 +0000
          Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 08:54 +0000
            Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:22 +0000
            Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:55 +0000
              Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:44 +0000
              Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 23:35 +0100
                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 01:48 +0000
                  Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-14 20:00 +0000
                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:43 +0000
                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 02:40 -0500
                      Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:48 +0000
                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 21:43 +0000
                    Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:45 +0000
                  Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:44 +0000
                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:17 +0000
                    Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:55 +0000
                      Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:57 +0100
                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 23:27 -0500
                  Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-14 11:56 +0000
                    Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:29 +0000
                      Re: Python mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2025-12-15 12:57 +0000
                        Re: Python Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-15 22:57 +0100
                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:31 -0500
                          Re: Python Greg Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2025-12-16 17:51 +1300
                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 08:32 +0000
                        Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:45 +0000
                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:54 +0000
                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 03:11 -0500
                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 19:17 +0000
                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:10 -0500
                                  Re: Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-18 03:28 +0000
                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 23:02 -0500
                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:54 +0000
                                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-18 04:25 -0500
                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 19:22 +0000
                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 01:14 -0500
                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:44 +0000
                                  Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 07:40 -0700
                                    Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 18:00 +0000
                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:28 +0000
                                      Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 12:52 -0700
                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 03:53 +0000
                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:37 -0500
                                      Re: Python "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 10:32 -0600
                                        Re: Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-03-04 20:01 +0000
                                          Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-04 21:29 +0100
                                            Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 20:37 +0000
                                            Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 14:09 -0700
                                              Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:35 +0000
                                                Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 23:10 +0000
                                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-04 20:30 -0500
                                                Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 20:13 -0700
                                                  Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:49 +0000
                                                  Re: Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 17:42 +0000
                                                    Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-05 20:02 +0100
                                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-05 14:42 -0500
                                                      Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 00:12 +0000
                                                        Re: Python Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2026-03-06 09:02 +0000
                                              Re: Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 02:44 +0000
                                                Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:50 +0000
                                            Re: Python Piergiorgio Sartor <piergiorgio.sartor.this.should.not.be.used@nexgo.REMOVETHIS.de> - 2026-03-04 22:14 +0100
                                              Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:20 +0000
                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:29 -0500
                                    Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 12:38 +0100
                          Re: Python Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 16:17 -0500
                            Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:11 +0000
                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:18 -0500
                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 07:07 +0000
                            Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:13 +0000
                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 00:52 +0000
                                Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-18 08:03 +0100
                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 07:39 +0000
                                    Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-18 15:43 +0000
                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:38 +0000
                                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:56 -0500
                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 08:18 +0000
                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 03:30 -0500
                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:38 +0000
                                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:01 -0500
                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:08 +0000
                                                    Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-27 22:36 +0100
                                  Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 09:55 +0000
                                    Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-18 11:19 +0100
                                      Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 12:36 +0000
                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 23:36 -0500
                      Re: Python candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-19 13:30 +0000
                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:50 +0000
                          Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-19 20:03 +0000
                            Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 21:00 +0000
                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:16 -0500
                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:15 -0500
                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:14 +0000
                                Re: Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-21 09:06 -0500
                                  Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-21 18:31 +0000
                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 21:00 +0000
                                    Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-22 07:29 +0100
                                    Linux at work in the old days Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-22 07:20 -0500
                                      Re: Linux at work in the old days rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-22 19:18 +0000
                                        Re: Linux at work in the old days c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:41 -0500
                                          Re: Linux at work in the old days Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-23 07:26 -0700
                                            Re: Linux at work in the old days Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-23 20:21 +0000
                                    Re: naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-22 21:26 +0000
                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 00:49 +0000
                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:55 -0500
                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 11:21 +0000
                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 06:34 -0500
                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 12:38 +0000
                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 20:28 +0000
                                              Re: naughty Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-23 14:21 -0800
                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 23:55 +0000
                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 05:33 -0500
                                                    The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-24 15:49 +0000
                                                      Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-24 23:28 +0000
                                                        Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-12-27 15:29 +0100
                                                          Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 21:21 +0000
                                                            Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 23:17 +0000
                                                              Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-28 04:09 +0000
                                                              Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2025-12-28 18:00 +0000
                                                    Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 22:22 +0100
                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:06 -0500
                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 04:04 +0000
                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:07 -0500
                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 06:38 +0000
                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 02:31 -0500
                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 17:09 +0000
                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:35 +0000
                                                              Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 07:33 -0700
                                                                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:59 +0000
                                                                  Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 15:40 -0800
                                                                    Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 01:30 +0000
                                                                      Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-30 08:57 -0800
                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 12:51 -0500
                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:00 +0000
                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:06 +0000
                                                                    Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 09:38 +0100
                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:11 +0000
                                                                      Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-30 07:38 -0700
                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 15:04 +0000
                                                                          Innovation (was Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-30 21:40 +0000
                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 22:02 +0000
                                                                  Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 19:23 -0700
                                                                    Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 03:53 +0000
                                                                      OT: incompetence of companies (was: Re: naughty Python) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 10:03 +0000
                                                                        Re: OT: incompetence of companies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:12 +0000
                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 03:14 -0500
                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:18 +0000
                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 21:49 +0000
                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 19:47 -0500
                                                                        Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 01:01 +0000
                                                                          Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 03:07 +0000
                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:45 -0500
                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:12 +0000
                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:11 -0500
                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:57 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:13 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:13 +0000
                                                                            Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 18:55 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 14:21 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-31 22:34 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 22:32 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:35 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 22:07 -0500
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:49 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-01 07:28 -0700
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-01 15:55 +0100
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:40 -0500
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:29 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:18 -0500
                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 22:22 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:31 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:12 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 07:56 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2026-01-04 09:22 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:16 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:11 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 10:49 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 19:57 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:37 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 04:10 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 23:21 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:28 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:04 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 14:22 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 20:47 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 02:00 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 22:37 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 08:56 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2026-01-08 09:57 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 08:57 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-07 09:41 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 10:29 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:33 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:42 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 07:01 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:45 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 18:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:11 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:27 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-08 19:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 23:36 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 18:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 22:15 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 20:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 23:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 22:23 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 07:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 07:58 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:47 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:26 +0100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-20 13:29 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-10 18:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-10 15:50 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 19:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 12:14 -0500
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                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 20:51 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-13 07:41 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                      Naughty Cat Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-13 14:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty Cat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 00:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty Cat Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-14 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-13 19:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 00:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Tinned tuna [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:58 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                Oil down the drain [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:53 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 20:57 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-11 16:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:34 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 04:10 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 12:41 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-13 22:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 01:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-16 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-01-18 12:30 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-13 09:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 08:25 -0800
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                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 23:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 06:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-13 04:35 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 15:38 +0100
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                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-09 09:19 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:46 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 18:48 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:31 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 23:18 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:42 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 22:32 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 20:53 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 11:51 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:20 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:15 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:33 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:20 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 09:14 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 12:33 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 11:50 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 13:37 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:19 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:30 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:30 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:40 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:47 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:08 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:18 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:36 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 07:00 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:33 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:21 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 23:52 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:03 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 07:51 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:38 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:03 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 19:21 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 02:26 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 23:20 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:20 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:34 -0800
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                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 09:57 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 14:43 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:15 -0500
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                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 09:56 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 19:28 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 07:47 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:52 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:35 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:02 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 08:16 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:40 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 20:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:58 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-10 03:12 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 00:02 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:04 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:54 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:36 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 08:13 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty PL/I (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-10 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:50 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:00 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 16:55 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 18:00 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:31 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:49 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:43 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:47 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 00:27 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 18:41 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 20:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 22:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 03:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-11 05:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-11 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-01-11 17:00 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 20:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:52 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 17:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 20:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 20:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 06:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 08:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 14:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 17:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 23:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 01:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 23:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-11 14:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-12 02:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 09:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 13:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-12 14:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:48 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 01:32 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:22 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:41 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:42 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:33 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 22:58 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:27 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 22:54 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 04:09 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:10 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:46 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:19 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 12:39 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:44 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:53 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:17 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:06 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 23:44 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:57 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:56 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:08 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:41 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:59 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 21:00 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 20:09 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 02:02 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:05 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:02 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:15 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 15:31 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:39 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 09:25 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 20:35 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:25 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 14:51 -0700
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:00 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 21:43 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 23:54 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-01 20:14 -0700
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:03 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:02 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 05:59 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 06:01 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 06:58 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 17:14 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 14:58 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 21:11 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:37 -0500
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:04 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:24 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:51 -0500
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:56 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 10:59 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:27 +0100
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:54 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 07:10 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:34 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:38 +0100
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 08:49 -0800
                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 18:26 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:08 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:08 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-03 02:47 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-03 07:03 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 06:42 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 20:29 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:14 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 09:43 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-04 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:18 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-04 19:04 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:55 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 11:29 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:59 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:55 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 17:43 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 18:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 17:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-06 07:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:19 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 08:26 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 18:09 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:16 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 05:57 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 17:48 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:09 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 19:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 12:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 11:12 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 16:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 17:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 19:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 13:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 15:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 17:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 23:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 00:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 21:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-08 01:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 15:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 10:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 11:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 15:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 12:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 11:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:09 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:36 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:55 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty PL/I (was Re: Naughty C♯) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-06 15:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 20:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 22:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 01:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) sean@conman.org - 2026-01-09 00:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-09 04:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 07:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-12 15:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-13 06:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 18:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 18:59 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:34 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 08:24 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:50 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:03 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:11 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2026-01-07 12:01 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty Java (was Re: Naughty C♯) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:18 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:09 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:31 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 20:04 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:25 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 15:47 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 09:20 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 18:10 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 23:28 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:14 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:23 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 11:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 09:00 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-07 12:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:01 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 20:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 20:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 20:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 15:29 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:21 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 18:13 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:16 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 19:48 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:37 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:17 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:01 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 07:07 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 11:05 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-03 18:32 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 19:38 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:33 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 15:00 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 19:51 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-03 06:09 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:38 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 16:58 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 08:01 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-04 16:25 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:12 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 07:14 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-04 20:25 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 07:59 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 16:31 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-04 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 20:05 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:17 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 05:57 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 19:20 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 17:35 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:36 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-01-06 03:31 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:20 +0000
                                                                                                                    Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-06 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-07 00:27 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 02:09 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-07 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:40 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 22:23 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Case-dependent file systems Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-10 14:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-10 14:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Case-dependent file systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 15:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 02:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Case-dependent file systems Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-11 14:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-11 16:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-11 21:38 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Case-dependant file systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 23:09 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Case-dependant file systems "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:17 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Case-dependant file systems The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 13:36 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:05 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:15 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Case-dependant file systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:02 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:13 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Case-dependant file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:12 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 21:08 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: C structures, was naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 22:41 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: C structures, was naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 15:44 -0800
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:19 -0500
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:08 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 21:57 +0000
                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 20:07 -0500
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:17 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 00:06 -0500
                                                                                      Re: language design, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 18:30 +0000
                                                                                        Re: language design, naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:15 -0500
                                                                                          Re: language design, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 20:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: language design, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:17 +0000
                                                                                            Re: language design, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-03 07:11 -0500
                                                                                              Re: language design, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 19:46 +0000
                                                                                                Re: language design, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 06:45 -0500
                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 03:05 +0000
                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:42 -0500
                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:55 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:12 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:03 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 14:50 -0500
                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:39 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:21 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 15:08 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-31 15:38 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 20:41 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 00:55 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 22:11 -0500
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 13:09 +0000
                                                                                            The Egg (was: Re: naughty Python) vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-02 01:54 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:10 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:39 -0500
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 07:51 -0700
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:34 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:12 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:17 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 11:46 -0500
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:28 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 21:50 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:37 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 01:15 -0500
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:35 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 20:02 +0000
                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:23 +0000
                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:16 -0500
                                                                          Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 10:30 +0000
                                                                            Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 19:00 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 19:12 +0000
                                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 20:10 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:37 +0100
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 03:23 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 04:56 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:24 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:32 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-01-02 13:06 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 09:41 -0500
                                                                                          Electronic calculators "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:57 +0100
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:36 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 19:57 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 01:07 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:36 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-03 08:50 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 10:54 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-03 07:39 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 14:22 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:14 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 07:57 -0700
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-03 18:34 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:47 +0100
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-03 14:24 +0100
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 14:08 -0500
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:48 +0000
                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:01 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 02:53 +0000
                                                                                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 03:24 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 05:04 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 13:15 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:44 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 07:43 -0700
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 10:06 -0500
                                                                              Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 17:41 +0000
                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:04 -0500
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2026-01-03 08:01 +0000
                                                                                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 20:56 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:44 +0000
                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 20:05 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 15:27 +0000
                                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:21 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-03 02:12 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-03 03:15 +0000
                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 14:25 -0500
                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-01 23:35 -0500
                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:35 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:13 +0000
                                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:46 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 19:58 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 01:03 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:34 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:54 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:19 +0100
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:26 -0500
                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:17 +0000
                                                        Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:27 +0100
                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:34 +0000
                                                        Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 09:53 -0800
                                                          Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:37 +0100
                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 02:56 -0500
                                                        Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-30 18:53 +0000
                                                    Re: naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-29 04:43 +0000
                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:22 -0500
                                                      Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:34 +0100
                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 12:41 +0000
                                                    Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-24 23:28 +0000
                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 21:30 -0500
                                                        Intellectuals (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-25 22:05 +0000
                                                          Re: Intellectuals (Re: naughty Python) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-25 22:20 -0500
                                                            Re: Intellectuals (Re: naughty Python) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-26 07:02 +0000
                                                              Re: Intellectuals (Re: naughty Python) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-26 02:16 -0500
                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 12:40 +0000
                                              Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 12:32 +0000
                                Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-27 22:40 +0100
                                  Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 23:21 +0000
                                  Re: Python dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-12-28 02:05 +0100
                                  Re: Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-27 18:16 -0800
                                    Re: Python dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-12-28 04:59 +0100
                                      Re: Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-28 08:32 -0800
                                    Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 13:48 +0100
                                      Re: Python dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-12-28 14:14 +0100
                                    Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:42 +0100
                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-28 17:41 +0000
                                    Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 22:11 +0100
                                      Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-28 22:06 +0000
                                        Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 23:30 +0100
                                          Re: Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 10:47 +0000
                                            Re: Python Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-12-29 11:11 +0000
                                            Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-04 14:15 +0000
                                              Re: Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 16:34 +0000
                                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:23 -0500
                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 04:15 +0000
                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:17 -0500
                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 06:40 +0000
                                                Re: Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-28 23:20 -0800
                                                  Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 10:42 +0000
                                                    Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 07:31 -0700
                                                      Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 15:52 +0000
                                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 11:12 -0500
                                                        Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 20:48 +0000
                                                          Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 02:58 -0500
                                                            Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 10:03 +0000
                                                              Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:06 +0000
                                                      Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 17:28 +0000
                                                        Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:50 +0100
                                                          Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:06 +0000
                                                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 01:13 -0500
                                                          Re: Python Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-30 08:08 +0000
                                                            Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:14 +0000
                                                              Re: Python Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-12-30 12:43 +0000
                                                              Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 17:34 +0000
                                                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 15:55 -0500
                                                                  Re: one time pads, not Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 04:55 +0000
                                                                    Re: one time pads, not Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 09:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: one time pads, not Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:45 -0500
                                                                      Re: one time pads, not Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 20:59 +0000
                                                                        Re: one time pads, not Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:17 +0000
                                                                          Re: one time pads, not Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:26 +0000
                                                                            Re: one time pads, not Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 11:45 +0000
                                                                              Re: one time pads, not Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:56 +0000
                                                                    Re: one time pads, not Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:14 -0500
                                                          Re: Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-30 18:46 +0000
                                                            Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:03 +0000
                                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 15:43 -0500
                                                      Re: “Quantum” Computing (was Re: Python) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:56 +0000
                                                        Re: “Quantum” Computing (was Re: Python) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 03:17 -0500
                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 17:15 +0000
                                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 02:52 -0500
                                                  Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:40 +0000
                                                  Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 07:29 -0700
                                                    Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 16:27 +0000
                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 02:52 -0500
                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:00 +0000
                            Re: Python candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-23 16:00 +0000
                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 20:30 +0000
                                Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-23 21:14 +0000
                      Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 20:57 +0000
                        Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:09 +0000
                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:37 +0000
                          Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-20 10:34 +0000
                          Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 11:45 +0000
                            Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-20 13:32 +0000
                            Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 16:36 +0000
                              Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 16:37 +0000
                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:16 +0100
                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 00:45 -0500
                  Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:55 +0000
                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:39 +0000
                    Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:53 +0000
              Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 02:05 +0000
                Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-19 13:30 +0000
                  Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-19 20:58 +0000
                    Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:48 +0000
                  Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 10:12 +0000
                    Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 05:25 -0500
                      Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:22 +0000
                    Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 22:28 +0000
                    Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:25 +0000
              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:39 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2025-12-15 19:46 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:54 +0000
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#80665 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-07 09:57 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jlam2$h5hi$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80636
On 06/01/2026 23:44, Dan Cross wrote:
> In article <ZN-dnYy-SfLC5MD0nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>,
> c186282  <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>> On 1/6/26 05:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>>>>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>>>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>>>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>>>>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>>>>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.*
>>>>>
>>>>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>>>>>     to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal, but
>>>>>     the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>>>>>     suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>>>>     Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>>>>>     that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>>>>>     pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
>>>
>>>   From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
>>
>>
>>    If assembler was RIDICULOUSLY WORDY  :-)
> 
> MOVE THE IMMEDIATE MODE OPERAND WITH VALUE 42 INTO REGISTER A0
>    AND ADD THE VALUE AT THE LOCATION 1234 DECIMAL GIVING A BYTE
>    RESULT STORING INTO REGISTER "Z ZERO"
> 
Well at least its unambiguous...


> 	- Dan C.
> 

-- 
"Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and 
higher education positively fortifies it."

    - Stephen Vizinczey

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#80664 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-07 09:56 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jlak4$h5hi$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80621
On 06/01/2026 21:06, c186282 wrote:
> On 1/6/26 05:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>>> On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>>>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>>>
>>>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>>>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>>>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the 
>>>> OS.*
>>>>
>>>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>>>>    to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal, 
>>>> but
>>>>    the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>>>>    suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>>>    Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>>>>    that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>>>>    pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
>>
>>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
> 
> 
>    If assembler was RIDICULOUSLY WORDY  :-)
> 
Some assembler is...it's a choice. Especially Macro assembler...





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"Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and 
higher education positively fortifies it."

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#80708 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-07 22:08 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<ms83qeFb1hnU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80664
On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 09:56:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 06/01/2026 21:06, c186282 wrote:
>> On 1/6/26 05:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700 Peter Flass
>>>>> <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>>>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>>>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS,
>>>>> though,
>>>>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't
>>>>> excuse limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program
>>>>> *is* the OS.*
>>>>>
>>>>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic
>>>>> has
>>>>>    to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare
>>>>>    metal,
>>>>> but
>>>>>    the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the
>>>>>    less suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>>>>    Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any*
>>>>>    language that's not designed for systems programming will
>>>>>    ultimately get pressed into service for systems programming 
>>>>>    *somewhere...*)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
>>>
>>>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
>> 
>> 
>>    If assembler was RIDICULOUSLY WORDY  :-)
>> 
> Some assembler is...it's a choice. Especially Macro assembler...

I remember a strange attempt to do Win32 API programming in 'assembler'. 
The author more or less reinvented C using MASM.  

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#80733 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-08 11:21 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jo3v7$1e3l8$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80708
On 07/01/2026 22:08, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 09:56:20 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 06/01/2026 21:06, c186282 wrote:

>>>
>>>     If assembler was RIDICULOUSLY WORDY  :-)
>>>
>> Some assembler is...it's a choice. Especially Macro assembler...
> 
> I remember a strange attempt to do Win32 API programming in 'assembler'.
> The author more or less reinvented C using MASM.

There is no definite crossover point.

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#80723 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<WOG7R.1062270$u2q8.827235@fx11.iad>
In reply to#80664
On 2026-01-07, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 06/01/2026 21:06, c186282 wrote:
>
>> On 1/6/26 05:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>
>>>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
>>>
>>>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
>> 
>>    If assembler was RIDICULOUSLY WORDY  :-)
>> 
> Some assembler is...it's a choice. Especially Macro assembler...

I remember CS weenies fawning over a language called pl360, the
misbegotten bastard child of Algol and 360 assembly language.  :-p

I hated Wirthian languages from the start and still do.
Just bad chemistry, I guess.  But I couldn't stand having
some snooty compiler slap my wrist and tell me that I
couldn't do what I could do in a couple of lines of
assembly language.

Our CS department had Algol 60, Algol 68, and Algol W.
I never did succeed in getting a program to run.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#80726 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-01-08 00:41 -0500
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<sROdnSA5edoW3sL0nZ2dnZfqn_sAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#80723
On 1/7/26 23:57, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-01-07, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 06/01/2026 21:06, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/6/26 05:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
>>>>
>>>>   From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
>>>
>>>     If assembler was RIDICULOUSLY WORDY  :-)
>>>
>> Some assembler is...it's a choice. Especially Macro assembler...
> 
> I remember CS weenies fawning over a language called pl360, the
> misbegotten bastard child of Algol and 360 assembly language.  :-p
> 
> I hated Wirthian languages from the start and still do.
> Just bad chemistry, I guess.  But I couldn't stand having
> some snooty compiler slap my wrist and tell me that I
> couldn't do what I could do in a couple of lines of
> assembly language.
> 
> Our CS department had Algol 60, Algol 68, and Algol W.
> I never did succeed in getting a program to run.

   "Wirthian" langs appeal to my soul, so to speak.
   Still do a fair amount of stuff in Pascal. WOULD
   do it in M3 but can't find a damned M3 compiler
   for Linux that works worth a damn.

   Algol ... right idea, but CLUNKY. Always a
   'version 0.xx' sort of thing.

   Done a lot in 'C' ... but Pascal is STILL my fave.

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#80735 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-08 11:26 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jo48h$1e3l8$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80723
On 08/01/2026 04:57, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> I hated Wirthian languages from the start and still do.
> Just bad chemistry, I guess.  But I couldn't stand having
> some snooty compiler slap my wrist and tell me that I
> couldn't do what I could do in a couple of lines of
> assembly language.

Ah. A fellow traveller.


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The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all 
private property.

Karl Marx

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#80756 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-08 19:59 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<msaglhFn9qtU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80723
On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:57:26 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2026-01-07, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 06/01/2026 21:06, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/6/26 05:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
>>>>
>>>>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
>>> 
>>>    If assembler was RIDICULOUSLY WORDY
>>> 
>> Some assembler is...it's a choice. Especially Macro assembler...
> 
> I remember CS weenies fawning over a language called pl360, the
> misbegotten bastard child of Algol and 360 assembly language.  :-p

I don't remember that one but I do recall when PL/I was going to be the 
one language to rule them all.

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#80769 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<usW7R.1654680$Pf33.786581@fx18.iad>
In reply to#80756
On 2026-01-08, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:57:26 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On 2026-01-07, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 06/01/2026 21:06, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/6/26 05:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
>>>>>
>>>>>  From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
>>>> 
>>>>    If assembler was RIDICULOUSLY WORDY
>>>> 
>>> Some assembler is...it's a choice. Especially Macro assembler...
>> 
>> I remember CS weenies fawning over a language called pl360, the
>> misbegotten bastard child of Algol and 360 assembly language.  :-p
>
> I don't remember that one but I do recall when PL/I was going to be the 
> one language to rule them all.

Yup, something for everyone, even the equivalent of COBOL's PICTURE clause.

The thing I noticed was that the compiler was quite slow and bloated,
which didn't go over well when when rationing precious computer center
funny money.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#80783 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-01-08 21:00 -0500
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<yNWcnRWBAbDA_P30nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#80756
On 1/8/26 14:59, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:57:26 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-01-07, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/01/2026 21:06, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/6/26 05:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 06/01/2026 03:27, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.
>>>>>
>>>>>   From what little I know COBOL looked very like assembler.
>>>>
>>>>     If assembler was RIDICULOUSLY WORDY
>>>>
>>> Some assembler is...it's a choice. Especially Macro assembler...
>>
>> I remember CS weenies fawning over a language called pl360, the
>> misbegotten bastard child of Algol and 360 assembly language.  :-p
> 
> I don't remember that one but I do recall when PL/I was going to be the
> one language to rule them all.

   I remember when it was billed as the 'great coming thing'.

   PL/I is a "kitchen sink" language - usually many ways to
   do the same thing. It's kind of what Python has become in
   that respect - but the syntax was still kinda 1960s.

   Pretty sure you can get a PL/I compiler for Linux if
   you're interested.

   http://www.iron-spring.com/readme_linux.html

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#80758 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-08 20:00 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<msagnmFn9qtU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80723
On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:57:26 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> I hated Wirthian languages from the start and still do. Just bad
> chemistry, I guess.  But I couldn't stand having some snooty compiler
> slap my wrist and tell me that I couldn't do what I could do in a couple
> of lines of assembly language.

Ever run into PL/M? 

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#80759 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2026-01-08 20:09 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<z9U7R.1158411$u2q8.1037856@fx11.iad>
In reply to#80758
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
>On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:57:26 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> I hated Wirthian languages from the start and still do. Just bad
>> chemistry, I guess.  But I couldn't stand having some snooty compiler
>> slap my wrist and tell me that I couldn't do what I could do in a couple
>> of lines of assembly language.
>
>Ever run into PL/M? 

I have a listing of the PL/M 8080 cross-compiler somewhere in storage.

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#80784 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-09 02:02 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<msb5t0FqqeoU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80759
On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 20:09:03 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:

> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
>>On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:57:26 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> I hated Wirthian languages from the start and still do. Just bad
>>> chemistry, I guess.  But I couldn't stand having some snooty compiler
>>> slap my wrist and tell me that I couldn't do what I could do in a
>>> couple of lines of assembly language.
>>
>>Ever run into PL/M?
> 
> I have a listing of the PL/M 8080 cross-compiler somewhere in storage.

iirc the Mostek AID-80F development system had a native PL/M 
implementation. It was almost, but not quite, CP/M. 

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#80806 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-09 10:05 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jqjtl$292fm$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80784
On 09/01/2026 02:02, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 20:09:03 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> 
>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:57:26 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hated Wirthian languages from the start and still do. Just bad
>>>> chemistry, I guess.  But I couldn't stand having some snooty compiler
>>>> slap my wrist and tell me that I couldn't do what I could do in a
>>>> couple of lines of assembly language.
>>>
>>> Ever run into PL/M?
>>
>> I have a listing of the PL/M 8080 cross-compiler somewhere in storage.
> 
> iirc the Mostek AID-80F development system had a native PL/M
> implementation. It was almost, but not quite, CP/M.
> 
PL/M was a language. CP/M was almost an operating system

-- 
“The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to 
fill the world with fools.”

Herbert Spencer

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#80811 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2026-01-09 16:02 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<lE98R.944794$PGrb.271282@fx10.iad>
In reply to#80806
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>On 09/01/2026 02:02, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 20:09:03 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> 
>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
>>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:57:26 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I hated Wirthian languages from the start and still do. Just bad
>>>>> chemistry, I guess.  But I couldn't stand having some snooty compiler
>>>>> slap my wrist and tell me that I couldn't do what I could do in a
>>>>> couple of lines of assembly language.
>>>>
>>>> Ever run into PL/M?
>>>
>>> I have a listing of the PL/M 8080 cross-compiler somewhere in storage.
>> 
>> iirc the Mostek AID-80F development system had a native PL/M
>> implementation. It was almost, but not quite, CP/M.
>> 
>PL/M was a language. CP/M was almost an operating system

So?  Mr. Bowman's comment referred to the AID-80F development system.

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#80822 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-09 18:48 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jrih6$2jar8$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80811
On 09/01/2026 16:02, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>> On 09/01/2026 02:02, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 20:09:03 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>
>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
>>>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:57:26 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I hated Wirthian languages from the start and still do. Just bad
>>>>>> chemistry, I guess.  But I couldn't stand having some snooty compiler
>>>>>> slap my wrist and tell me that I couldn't do what I could do in a
>>>>>> couple of lines of assembly language.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ever run into PL/M?
>>>>
>>>> I have a listing of the PL/M 8080 cross-compiler somewhere in storage.
>>>
>>> iirc the Mostek AID-80F development system had a native PL/M
>>> implementation. It was almost, but not quite, CP/M.
>>>
>> PL/M was a language. CP/M was almost an operating system
> 
> So?  Mr. Bowman's comment referred to the AID-80F development system.

Did it? It was ambiguous.

-- 
When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over 
the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that 
authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

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#80827 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-09 20:27 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<msd6lnF7214U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80822
On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 18:48:06 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 09/01/2026 16:02, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>> On 09/01/2026 02:02, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 20:09:03 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
>>>>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:57:26 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hated Wirthian languages from the start and still do. Just bad
>>>>>>> chemistry, I guess.  But I couldn't stand having some snooty
>>>>>>> compiler slap my wrist and tell me that I couldn't do what I could
>>>>>>> do in a couple of lines of assembly language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ever run into PL/M?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a listing of the PL/M 8080 cross-compiler somewhere in
>>>>> storage.
>>>>
>>>> iirc the Mostek AID-80F development system had a native PL/M
>>>> implementation. It was almost, but not quite, CP/M.
>>>>
>>> PL/M was a language. CP/M was almost an operating system
>> 
>> So?  Mr. Bowman's comment referred to the AID-80F development system.
> 
> Did it? It was ambiguous.

https://deramp.com/mostek.html

To clarify, the system ran M/OS-80 which was very much like CP/M. I 
believe there was an implementation of the PL/M language available. It's 
been a day or two. I know I used it to burn EPROMs but I worked with the 
Z80 assembler, not PL/M. 


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#80838 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-10 10:15 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<10jt8s9$32s6e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80827
On 09/01/2026 20:27, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 18:48:06 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 09/01/2026 16:02, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>>> On 09/01/2026 02:02, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 20:09:03 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2026 04:57:26 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I hated Wirthian languages from the start and still do.
>>>>>>>> Just bad chemistry, I guess.  But I couldn't stand
>>>>>>>> having some snooty compiler slap my wrist and tell me
>>>>>>>> that I couldn't do what I could do in a couple of lines
>>>>>>>> of assembly language.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ever run into PL/M?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a listing of the PL/M 8080 cross-compiler somewhere
>>>>>> in storage.
>>>>> 
>>>>> iirc the Mostek AID-80F development system had a native PL/M 
>>>>> implementation. It was almost, but not quite, CP/M.
>>>>> 
>>>> PL/M was a language. CP/M was almost an operating system
>>> 
>>> So?  Mr. Bowman's comment referred to the AID-80F development
>>> system.
>> 
>> Did it? It was ambiguous.
> 
> https://deramp.com/mostek.html
> 
> To clarify, the system ran M/OS-80 which was very much like CP/M.

I know. I've used one.
 > > I believe there was an implementation of the PL/M language available.
> It's been a day or two. I know I used it to burn EPROMs but I worked
> with the Z80 assembler, not PL/M.
> 
My point was that it was M/OS-80 that was like CP/M not PL/M


> 
> 

-- 
The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all
private property.

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#80585 — Re: naughty Pascal

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2026-01-06 15:31 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<NV97R.96424$mKw9.67141@fx42.iad>
In reply to#80550
Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> writes:
>On 1/5/26 12:50, John Ames wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700
>> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>> 
>> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
>> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
>> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.*
>> 
>> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>>    to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal, but
>>    the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>>    suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>>    
>>    Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>>    that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>>    pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)
>> 
>
>I seem to recall reading that someone once wrote an OS in COBOL.

On one of the Burroughs systems, the disk defragmenter was written
in COBOL.

That flavor of cobol allowed embedded assembler.

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#80568 — Re: naughty Pascal

FromRichard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-06 10:39 +0000
SubjectRe: naughty Pascal
Message-ID<wwv4ioz9gah.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to#80533
John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> writes:
> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea
>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS
>> interacts directly with the hardware.
>
> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though,
> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse
> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.*
>
> * (Obviously, there's a certain point in any HLL where Deep Magic has
>   to handle interfacing between language constructs and bare metal, but
>   the higher up the "threshold of minimum abstraction" is, the less
>   suitable it is for systems programming in the first place.
>   
>   Of course, there's also the problem where seemingly *any* language
>   that's not designed for systems programming will ultimately get
>   pressed into service for systems programming  *somewhere...*)

Also, the “call the OS” part of userland programs has to be represented
somehow in whatever language they are written in. C made that partially
independent of the underlying OS in the sense that the stdio.h functions
work much the same on a range of platforms (but it does make some
assumptions about the OS’s underlying IO model). As well as improving
portability, it means a bit less re-learning for programmers as we
migrate around platforms.

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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