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Re: Recent history of vi

Started byJohnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se>
First post2025-11-27 20:10 +0100
Last post2025-12-13 08:25 +0000
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  Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 20:10 +0100
    Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-27 20:19 +0000
      Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:44 +0100
    Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:44 +0000
      Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-28 07:54 -0500
      Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-28 22:10 +0100
        Re: Recent history of vi David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> - 2025-11-29 13:13 +1300
          Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-29 02:57 +0000
          Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:35 +0100
            Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:45 +0000
            Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-29 15:06 +0000
        Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:20 +0000
          Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-29 12:45 -0700
            Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:37 +0000
              Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 11:06 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:20 +0000
                  Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 08:54 +0000
                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:22 +0000
                    Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:55 +0000
                      Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:44 +0000
                      Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 23:35 +0100
                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 01:48 +0000
                          Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-14 20:00 +0000
                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:43 +0000
                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 02:40 -0500
                              Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:48 +0000
                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 21:43 +0000
                            Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:45 +0000
                          Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:44 +0000
                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:17 +0000
                            Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:55 +0000
                              Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:57 +0100
                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 23:27 -0500
                          Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-14 11:56 +0000
                            Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:29 +0000
                              Re: Python mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2025-12-15 12:57 +0000
                                Re: Python Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-15 22:57 +0100
                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:31 -0500
                                  Re: Python Greg Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2025-12-16 17:51 +1300
                                    Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 08:32 +0000
                                Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:45 +0000
                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:54 +0000
                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 03:11 -0500
                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 19:17 +0000
                                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:10 -0500
                                          Re: Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-18 03:28 +0000
                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 23:02 -0500
                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:54 +0000
                                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-18 04:25 -0500
                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 19:22 +0000
                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 01:14 -0500
                                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:44 +0000
                                          Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 07:40 -0700
                                            Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 18:00 +0000
                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:28 +0000
                                              Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 12:52 -0700
                                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 03:53 +0000
                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:37 -0500
                                              Re: Python "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 10:32 -0600
                                                Re: Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-03-04 20:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-04 21:29 +0100
                                                    Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 20:37 +0000
                                                    Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 14:09 -0700
                                                      Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:35 +0000
                                                        Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 23:10 +0000
                                                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-04 20:30 -0500
                                                        Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 20:13 -0700
                                                          Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:49 +0000
                                                          Re: Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 17:42 +0000
                                                            Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-05 20:02 +0100
                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-05 14:42 -0500
                                                              Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-06 00:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Python Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2026-03-06 09:02 +0000
                                                      Re: Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-05 02:44 +0000
                                                        Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-05 03:50 +0000
                                                    Re: Python Piergiorgio Sartor <piergiorgio.sartor.this.should.not.be.used@nexgo.REMOVETHIS.de> - 2026-03-04 22:14 +0100
                                                      Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:20 +0000
                                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:29 -0500
                                            Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 12:38 +0100
                                  Re: Python Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 16:17 -0500
                                    Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:11 +0000
                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:18 -0500
                                        Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 07:07 +0000
                                    Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 22:13 +0000
                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 00:52 +0000
                                        Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-18 08:03 +0100
                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 07:39 +0000
                                            Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-18 15:43 +0000
                                              Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:38 +0000
                                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:56 -0500
                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 08:18 +0000
                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 03:30 -0500
                                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:38 +0000
                                                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:01 -0500
                                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:08 +0000
                                                            Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-27 22:36 +0100
                                          Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 09:55 +0000
                                            Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-18 11:19 +0100
                                              Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 12:36 +0000
                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 23:36 -0500
                              Re: Python candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-19 13:30 +0000
                                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:50 +0000
                                  Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-19 20:03 +0000
                                    Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 21:00 +0000
                                      Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:16 -0500
                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 04:15 -0500
                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:14 +0000
                                        Re: Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-21 09:06 -0500
                                          Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-21 18:31 +0000
                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 21:00 +0000
                                            Re: Python Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-22 07:29 +0100
                                            Linux at work in the old days Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-22 07:20 -0500
                                              Re: Linux at work in the old days rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-22 19:18 +0000
                                                Re: Linux at work in the old days c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:41 -0500
                                                  Re: Linux at work in the old days Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-23 07:26 -0700
                                                    Re: Linux at work in the old days Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-23 20:21 +0000
                                            Re: naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-22 21:26 +0000
                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 00:49 +0000
                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:55 -0500
                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 11:21 +0000
                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 06:34 -0500
                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 12:38 +0000
                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 20:28 +0000
                                                      Re: naughty Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-23 14:21 -0800
                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 23:55 +0000
                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 05:33 -0500
                                                            The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-24 15:49 +0000
                                                              Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-24 23:28 +0000
                                                                Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-12-27 15:29 +0100
                                                                  Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 21:21 +0000
                                                                    Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 23:17 +0000
                                                                      Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-28 04:09 +0000
                                                                      Re: The power of languages (Re: naughty Python) Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2025-12-28 18:00 +0000
                                                            Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 22:22 +0100
                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:06 -0500
                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 04:04 +0000
                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:07 -0500
                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 06:38 +0000
                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 02:31 -0500
                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 17:09 +0000
                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:35 +0000
                                                                      Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 07:33 -0700
                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:59 +0000
                                                                          Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 15:40 -0800
                                                                            Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 01:30 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-30 08:57 -0800
                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 12:51 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:00 +0000
                                                                                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:06 +0000
                                                                            Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 09:38 +0100
                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:11 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-30 07:38 -0700
                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 15:04 +0000
                                                                                  Innovation (was Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-30 21:40 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 22:02 +0000
                                                                          Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 19:23 -0700
                                                                            Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 03:53 +0000
                                                                              OT: incompetence of companies (was: Re: naughty Python) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 10:03 +0000
                                                                                Re: OT: incompetence of companies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:12 +0000
                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 03:14 -0500
                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:18 +0000
                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 21:49 +0000
                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 19:47 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 01:01 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 03:07 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:45 -0500
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:12 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:11 -0500
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:57 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:13 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:13 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 18:55 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 14:21 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-31 22:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 22:32 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:35 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 22:07 -0500
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:49 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-01 07:28 -0700
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-01 15:55 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:40 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:29 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:18 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 22:22 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:31 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:12 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 07:56 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2026-01-04 09:22 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:16 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:11 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 10:49 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 19:57 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:37 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 04:10 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 23:21 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:28 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:04 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 14:22 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 20:47 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 02:00 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 22:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 08:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2026-01-08 09:57 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 08:57 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-07 09:41 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 10:29 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 07:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 18:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 07:42 -0700
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                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:02 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:45 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 20:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 20:58 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:26 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-20 13:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-10 18:23 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:19 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-11 16:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 19:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 12:14 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 20:51 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 17:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 19:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 20:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 21:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 18:05 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 03:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 23:41 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-13 07:41 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 12:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Naughty Cat Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-13 14:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty Cat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 00:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty Cat Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-14 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-13 19:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 00:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Tinned tuna [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:58 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Oil down the drain [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:53 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 20:57 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:34 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 00:37 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 12:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 18:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-13 22:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 01:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-16 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-01-18 12:30 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-13 09:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 08:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:26 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 23:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 06:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-13 04:35 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 15:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 09:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-09 09:19 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 18:48 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:31 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 23:18 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:42 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 22:32 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 20:53 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 11:51 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:20 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:15 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:33 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 09:14 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 12:33 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 11:50 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 13:37 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:19 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:30 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 17:04 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:30 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:40 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:47 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:08 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:18 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:36 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 07:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:33 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 23:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:03 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 07:51 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:38 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:03 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 19:21 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 02:26 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 23:20 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 09:57 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 14:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:15 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 09:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 19:28 -0700
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                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 08:16 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 20:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-10 03:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 00:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 08:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty PL/I (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-10 14:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 16:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 18:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:31 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:49 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 00:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 18:41 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 20:06 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 22:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 03:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-11 05:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-11 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-01-11 17:00 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 20:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:52 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 17:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 20:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 20:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 06:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 08:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 14:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 17:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 23:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 01:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 23:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-11 14:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-12 02:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:50 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 09:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 13:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-12 14:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                          Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 01:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:22 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:41 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:42 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:33 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 22:58 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:27 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 22:54 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 04:09 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:10 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:46 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:19 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 12:39 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:44 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:53 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:17 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:06 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 23:44 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:57 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:56 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:08 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:41 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:59 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 21:00 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 20:09 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 02:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:15 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 15:31 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:39 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 09:25 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 20:35 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:25 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:00 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 14:51 -0700
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 21:43 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 23:54 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-01 20:14 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:03 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:02 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 05:59 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 06:01 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 06:58 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 17:14 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 14:58 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 21:11 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:37 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:04 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:24 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:51 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 10:59 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:27 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:54 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:57 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 07:10 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:34 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:38 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 08:49 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 18:26 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:08 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:08 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-03 02:47 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-03 07:03 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 06:42 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 20:29 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:14 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 09:43 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-04 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:18 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-04 19:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 11:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 17:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 18:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 17:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-06 07:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 08:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 18:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 05:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 17:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 19:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 12:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 11:12 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 16:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 17:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 19:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 13:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 15:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 17:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 23:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 00:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 21:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-08 01:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 15:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 10:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 11:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 15:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 12:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 11:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty C♯ "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:36 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:55 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Naughty PL/I (was Re: Naughty C♯) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                        What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-06 15:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 20:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 22:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 01:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) sean@conman.org - 2026-01-09 00:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-09 04:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 07:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-12 15:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-13 06:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 18:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 18:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 11:26 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 08:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Naughty C♯ Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Naughty C♯ Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2026-01-07 12:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Naughty Java (was Re: Naughty C♯) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:18 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:09 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:31 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 20:04 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:25 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 15:47 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 09:20 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 18:10 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 23:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 11:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 09:00 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-07 12:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:01 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 20:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 20:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 20:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 15:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:21 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 18:13 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:16 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 19:48 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:37 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:17 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:01 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 07:07 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 11:05 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-03 18:32 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 19:38 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:33 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 15:00 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:52 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 19:51 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-03 06:09 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:38 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 16:58 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 08:01 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-04 16:25 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:12 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 07:14 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-04 20:25 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 07:59 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 16:31 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-04 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 20:05 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:17 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 05:57 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 19:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 17:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:36 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-01-06 03:31 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:20 +0000
                                                                                                                            Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-06 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-07 00:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 02:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-07 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 22:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Case-dependent file systems Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-10 14:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-10 14:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Case-dependent file systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 15:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 02:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Case-dependent file systems Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-11 14:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-11 16:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-11 21:38 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Case-dependant file systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 23:09 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Case-dependant file systems "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:17 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Case-dependant file systems The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 13:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Case-dependant file systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:13 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Case-dependant file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:12 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 21:08 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: C structures, was naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 22:41 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: C structures, was naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 15:44 -0800
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:19 -0500
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:08 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 21:57 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 20:07 -0500
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:17 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 00:06 -0500
                                                                                              Re: language design, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 18:30 +0000
                                                                                                Re: language design, naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:15 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: language design, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 20:34 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: language design, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:17 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: language design, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-03 07:11 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: language design, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 19:46 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: language design, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 06:45 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 03:05 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:42 -0500
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:55 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:12 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:03 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 14:50 -0500
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:39 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:21 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 15:08 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-31 15:38 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 20:41 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 00:55 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 22:11 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 13:09 +0000
                                                                                                    The Egg (was: Re: naughty Python) vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-02 01:54 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:10 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:39 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 07:51 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:34 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:12 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:17 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 11:46 -0500
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:28 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 21:50 -0500
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:37 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 01:15 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:35 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 20:02 +0000
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:23 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:16 -0500
                                                                                  Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 10:30 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 19:00 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 19:12 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 20:10 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:37 +0100
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 03:23 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 04:56 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:24 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:32 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-01-02 13:06 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 09:41 -0500
                                                                                                  Electronic calculators "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:57 +0100
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:36 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 01:07 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:36 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-03 08:50 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 10:54 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-03 07:39 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 14:22 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:14 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 07:57 -0700
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-03 18:34 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:47 +0100
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:27 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-03 14:24 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 14:08 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:48 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:01 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 02:53 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 03:24 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 05:04 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 13:15 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:44 -0500
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 07:43 -0700
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 10:06 -0500
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 17:41 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:04 -0500
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2026-01-03 08:01 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 20:56 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:44 +0000
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 20:05 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 15:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:21 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-03 02:12 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-03 03:15 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 14:25 -0500
                                                                                    Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-01 23:35 -0500
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:35 +0000
                                                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:13 +0000
                                                                                        Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:46 +0000
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 19:58 +0000
                                                                                            Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 01:03 +0000
                                                                                              Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:34 +0000
                                                                                                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:19 +0100
                                                                                          Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:26 -0500
                                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:17 +0000
                                                                Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:27 +0100
                                                                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:34 +0000
                                                                Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 09:53 -0800
                                                                  Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:37 +0100
                                                                  Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 02:56 -0500
                                                                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-30 18:53 +0000
                                                            Re: naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-29 04:43 +0000
                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:22 -0500
                                                              Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:34 +0100
                                                          Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 12:41 +0000
                                                            Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-24 23:28 +0000
                                                              Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 21:30 -0500
                                                                Intellectuals (Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-25 22:05 +0000
                                                                  Re: Intellectuals (Re: naughty Python) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-25 22:20 -0500
                                                                    Re: Intellectuals (Re: naughty Python) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-26 07:02 +0000
                                                                      Re: Intellectuals (Re: naughty Python) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-26 02:16 -0500
                                                        Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 12:40 +0000
                                                      Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 12:32 +0000
                                        Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-27 22:40 +0100
                                          Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 23:21 +0000
                                          Re: Python dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-12-28 02:05 +0100
                                          Re: Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-27 18:16 -0800
                                            Re: Python dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-12-28 04:59 +0100
                                              Re: Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-28 08:32 -0800
                                            Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 13:48 +0100
                                              Re: Python dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-12-28 14:14 +0100
                                            Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:42 +0100
                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-28 17:41 +0000
                                            Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 22:11 +0100
                                              Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-28 22:06 +0000
                                                Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 23:30 +0100
                                                  Re: Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 10:47 +0000
                                                    Re: Python Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-12-29 11:11 +0000
                                                    Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-04 14:15 +0000
                                                      Re: Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 16:34 +0000
                                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:23 -0500
                                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 04:15 +0000
                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:17 -0500
                                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 06:40 +0000
                                                        Re: Python Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-28 23:20 -0800
                                                          Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 10:42 +0000
                                                            Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 07:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 15:52 +0000
                                                              Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 11:12 -0500
                                                                Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 20:48 +0000
                                                                  Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 02:58 -0500
                                                                    Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 10:03 +0000
                                                                      Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:06 +0000
                                                              Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 17:28 +0000
                                                                Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:50 +0100
                                                                  Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:06 +0000
                                                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 01:13 -0500
                                                                  Re: Python Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-30 08:08 +0000
                                                                    Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:14 +0000
                                                                      Re: Python Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-12-30 12:43 +0000
                                                                      Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 17:34 +0000
                                                                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 15:55 -0500
                                                                          Re: one time pads, not Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 04:55 +0000
                                                                            Re: one time pads, not Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 09:15 +0000
                                                                              Re: one time pads, not Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:45 -0500
                                                                              Re: one time pads, not Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 20:59 +0000
                                                                                Re: one time pads, not Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:17 +0000
                                                                                  Re: one time pads, not Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:26 +0000
                                                                                    Re: one time pads, not Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 11:45 +0000
                                                                                      Re: one time pads, not Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:56 +0000
                                                                            Re: one time pads, not Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:14 -0500
                                                                  Re: Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-30 18:46 +0000
                                                                    Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 15:43 -0500
                                                              Re: “Quantum” Computing (was Re: Python) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:56 +0000
                                                                Re: “Quantum” Computing (was Re: Python) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 03:17 -0500
                                                          Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 17:15 +0000
                                                        Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 02:52 -0500
                                                          Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:40 +0000
                                                          Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 07:29 -0700
                                                            Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 16:27 +0000
                                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 02:52 -0500
                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:00 +0000
                                    Re: Python candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-23 16:00 +0000
                                      Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 20:30 +0000
                                        Re: Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-23 21:14 +0000
                              Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 20:57 +0000
                                Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:09 +0000
                                  Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:37 +0000
                                  Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-20 10:34 +0000
                                  Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 11:45 +0000
                                    Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-20 13:32 +0000
                                    Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 16:36 +0000
                                      Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 16:37 +0000
                          Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:16 +0100
                            Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 00:45 -0500
                          Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:55 +0000
                            Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:39 +0000
                            Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:53 +0000
                      Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 02:05 +0000
                        Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-19 13:30 +0000
                          Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-19 20:58 +0000
                            Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:48 +0000
                          Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 10:12 +0000
                            Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 05:25 -0500
                              Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:22 +0000
                            Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 22:28 +0000
                            Re: Python (was Re: Recent history of vi) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 04:25 +0000
                      Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:39 +0000
                        Re: Recent history of vi John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2025-12-15 19:46 +0100
                        Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:54 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 18:33 +0000
                  Re: Recent history of vi David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> - 2025-12-01 11:09 +1300
                    Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:23 +0000
              Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 12:29 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 13:23 +0000
                  Re: Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:56 +0000
                    Re: Recent history of vi David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> - 2025-12-01 11:18 +1300
                      Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-01 01:55 +0100
            Re: Recent history of vi Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-11-30 13:29 +0100
              Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:25 +0000

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#80517 — Re: Naughty C♯

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-05 17:43 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<ms2bi4Fbv84U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80508
On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 06:55:59 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> I've been getting used to using the universal initializer (from C++11):
> 
>     const byte addresses[][6] { "00001", "00002" };
>     int angleValue { 0 };
>     boolean buttonState { 0 };

Another 'feature' I am blissfully unaware of. That only puts you 12 years 
behind C++23 and the imminent C++26.

You'll have to use std.println("Hello World!"); rather than the cout << 
"Hello World"" << endl;  stuff.  Remember those deprecated C style .h 
headers? Apparently they're undeprecated.

I think a preference for C++ depends on when you started using it. It 
needed a couple of more years in the womb before it got kicked out into 
the cruel world. It hit the streets in '85 with the STL to follow in 10 
years with the C++ Standard Library to follow.

You can really blame Microsoft for creating MFC; they had to wrap their C 
API in something. You can blame them for DDE/OLE/COM, the ATl, and 
adopting Hungarian notation.

C++ certainly isn't alone. I decided to brush up on Angular. The web app 
we did was Angular 9. In Angular 21 components are standalone, so the old 
module configuration file is gone, a change for the better.  Python3 was a 
breaking change from Python2, etc. Maybe modern C++ is much better than 
what I was exposed to similar to modern Fortan being quite a bit different 
to Fortran 77.

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#80519 — Re: Naughty C♯

FromNiklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com>
Date2026-01-05 18:08 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<ms2d0lFchgpU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80517
On 2026-01-05, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>
> You can really blame Microsoft for creating MFC; they had to wrap their C 
> API in something. You can blame them for DDE/OLE/COM, the ATl, and 
> adopting Hungarian notation.

(I assume you meant "can't really blame" at the beginning there?)

Time to dip into the quotes file again:

   Hungarian Notation is the tactical nuclear weapon of source code
   obfuscation techniques.
                       -- Roedy Green
 
Niklas
-- 
My main argument against autonomous probes is what alien cultures
would think us if the got hold of a deep-space probe running Windows 7.
Their anthropologists might enjoy the paradox of a civilisation
being able to get off the planet with such software. -- Bernd Felsche

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#80534 — Re: Naughty C♯

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-05 20:32 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<ms2le8FdoacU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80519
On 5 Jan 2026 18:08:21 GMT, Niklas Karlsson wrote:

> On 2026-01-05, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>> You can really blame Microsoft for creating MFC; they had to wrap their
>> C API in something. You can blame them for DDE/OLE/COM, the ATl, and
>> adopting Hungarian notation.
> 
> (I assume you meant "can't really blame" at the beginning there?)

What can I say? I'm still getting my blood caffeine level up to snuff.

 
> Time to dip into the quotes file again:
> 
>    Hungarian Notation is the tactical nuclear weapon of source code
>    obfuscation techniques.
>                        -- Roedy Green

When I was toying with Java in the late '90s Green's website was a 
valuable resource. One day I somehow managed to wander from the Java pages 
to those concerning some of his other interests. Let's just say I learned 
more than I really wanted to know. 

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#80541 — Re: Naughty C♯

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2026-01-05 17:25 -0500
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<10jhdpi$39k2l$4@nntp.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#80519
Niklas Karlsson wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:

> On 2026-01-05, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>> You can really blame Microsoft for creating MFC; they had to wrap their C 
>> API in something. You can blame them for DDE/OLE/COM, the ATl, and 
>> adopting Hungarian notation.
>
> (I assume you meant "can't really blame" at the beginning there?)
>
> Time to dip into the quotes file again:
>
>    Hungarian Notation is the tactical nuclear weapon of source code
>    obfuscation techniques.
>                        -- Roedy Green

Agreed. The only warts I use are:

    m_      A class member. But I often make an accessor function
            without the "m_"
    sm_     A static class member.
    c_      A constant, not in a class..

Of course, there's no way in hell to get programmer's to agree on
coding conventions.

That's why I'm happy to work on my own now.

-- 
... an anecdote from IBM's Yorktown Heights Research Center.  When a
programmer used his new computer terminal, all was fine when he was sitting
down, but he couldn't log in to the system when he was standing up.  That
behavior was 100 percent repeatable: he could always log in when sitting and
never when standing.
 
Most of us just sit back and marvel at such a story; how could that terminal
know whether the poor guy was sitting or standing?  Good debuggers, though,
know that there has to be a reason.  Electrical theories are the easiest to
hypothesize: was there a loose wire under the carpet, or problems with static
electricity?  But electrical problems are rarely consistently reproducible.
An alert IBMer finally noticed that the problem was in the terminal's keyboard:
the tops of two keys were switched.  When the programmer was seated he was a
touch typist and the problem went unnoticed, but when he stood he was led
astray by hunting and pecking.
		-- "Programming Pearls" column, by Jon Bentley in CACM February 1985

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#80563 — Re: Naughty C♯

FromPancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com>
Date2026-01-06 07:55 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<10jif4m$2u3d2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80541
On 1/5/26 22:25, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Niklas Karlsson wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
> 
>> On 2026-01-05, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> You can really blame Microsoft for creating MFC; they had to wrap their C
>>> API in something. You can blame them for DDE/OLE/COM, the ATl, and
>>> adopting Hungarian notation.
>>
>> (I assume you meant "can't really blame" at the beginning there?)
>>
>> Time to dip into the quotes file again:
>>
>>     Hungarian Notation is the tactical nuclear weapon of source code
>>     obfuscation techniques.
>>                         -- Roedy Green
> 
> Agreed. The only warts I use are:
> 
>      m_      A class member. But I often make an accessor function
>              without the "m_"
>      sm_     A static class member.
>      c_      A constant, not in a class..
> 

I thought that all stopped 15-20 years ago when IDEs introduced auto 
colouring.

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#80569 — Re: Naughty C♯

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2026-01-06 06:19 -0500
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<10jir3j$3mje8$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80563
Pancho wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:

> On 1/5/26 22:25, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Niklas Karlsson wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
>> 
>>> On 2026-01-05, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You can really blame Microsoft for creating MFC; they had to wrap their C
>>>> API in something. You can blame them for DDE/OLE/COM, the ATl, and
>>>> adopting Hungarian notation.
>>>
>>> (I assume you meant "can't really blame" at the beginning there?)
>>>
>>> Time to dip into the quotes file again:
>>>
>>>     Hungarian Notation is the tactical nuclear weapon of source code
>>>     obfuscation techniques.
>>>                         -- Roedy Green
>> 
>> Agreed. The only warts I use are:
>> 
>>      m_      A class member. But I often make an accessor function
>>              without the "m_"
>>      sm_     A static class member.
>>      c_      A constant, not in a class..
>
> I thought that all stopped 15-20 years ago when IDEs introduced auto 
> colouring.

I don't use an IDE. Just vim and build scripts like make and
Meson.

Vim has syntax highlighting, and I've added a ton of my own key
words to ~/.vim/after/syntax.

What IDEs auto-color tokens based on whether they are class
members or not?

-- 
Marriage is the sole cause of divorce.

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#80514 — Re: Naughty C♯

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-01-05 08:26 -0500
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<DPOcnTfp-s9hJsb0nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#80495
On 1/4/26 22:55, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 19:04:14 -0500, c186282 wrote:
> 
>> On 1/4/26 16:18, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>> On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 19:41:11 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does C# qualify as a Microsoft proprietary language? Or are there
>>>> implementations on OSes other than Windows (and compilers, either open
>>>> source or available from other vendors)?
>>>
>>> The only implementation I’m aware of is Microsoft’s one built on top of
>>> Dotnet.
>>>
>>> Dotnet itself is supposedly open-source and portable to some degree
>>> now. There are reports of it running on Linux.
>>
>>     That would be very end-around ...
>>
>>     Maybe just to forget C# ... CPP is good enough.
>>
>>     Actually, don't even like CPP ... plain 'C' has so far met all my
>>     needs.
> 
> I was thinking about C++ on my walk today. Arduino sketches and other MCU
> SDKs refer to C/C++.
> 
> #include <nRF24L01.h>
> #include <RF24.h>
> 
> #define led 12
> 
> RF24 radio(7, 8);
> const byte addresses[][6] = {"00001", "00002"};
> int angleValue = 0;
> boolean buttonState = 0;
> 
> 
> void setup() {
>    Serial.begin(9600);
>    radio.begin();
>    radio.openWritingPipe(addresses[1]);
>    radio.openReadingPipe(1, addresses[0]);
>    radio.setPALevel(RF24_PA_MIN);
> }
> 
> Obviously when you instantiate the RF24 objects and start calling class
> methods that will use parameters passed in to the constructor, you're in
> C++ land. However for the most part it's 'C with Classes' and very seldom
> has to get into the C++ esoterica.
> 
> Arduino simplifies it by magically creating setup() and loop()  without
> the boilerplate.  The Pico SDK documentation talks about C/C++ but I
> haven't seen C++ being used much in the examples.
> 
> Anyway C++ is handy in small doses.

   I built a dozen solar-powered dataloggers using
   Arduino 2560s. Great little boards and there is
   not the 5v -vs- 3.3v prob you get with PI prods.
   Most instrumentation you get is still 5v.

   On the flip you can get a Pico with wi-fi already
   built in, perhaps more useful than Rf24 unless you
   want yer Ards to be like a very 'private network'.
   There are some other serial->RF transceivers out
   there too which work down in the megahertz zone
   and may offer more range.

   Anyway, Ard 'C' is pretty straight 'C'. Some of
   the libs CAN have an 'object' character however,
   but I don't see that as an entire paradigm
   shift to CPP.

   C#/dotnet ... I'm uncomfortable seeing such
   heavily M$ solutions used in Linux. I still
   have this vision of M$ lawyers waiting until
   enough Linux stuff is writ using their stuff
   and then POUNCING.

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#80520 — Re: Naughty C♯

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-05 18:09 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<ms2d29Fcnc6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80514
On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 08:26:21 -0500, c186282 wrote:

> On the flip you can get a Pico with wi-fi already
>    built in, perhaps more useful than Rf24 unless you want yer Ards to
>    be like a very 'private network'.
>    There are some other serial->RF transceivers out there too which work
>    down in the megahertz zone and may offer more range.

Like everything else, there are trade offs.  There may be better choices 
today but I've got nrf20L01 modules that are easy to use.

> 
>    Anyway, Ard 'C' is pretty straight 'C'. Some of the libs CAN have an
>    'object' character however, but I don't see that as an entire
>    paradigm shift to CPP.

The nuts and bolts are hidden but as soon as you say  Serial.begin(9600); 
you've left C. 

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#80524 — Re: Naughty C♯

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-01-05 18:16 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<3eT6R.126666$eucd.99579@fx02.iad>
In reply to#80514
On 2026-01-05, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

>    C#/dotnet ... I'm uncomfortable seeing such
>    heavily M$ solutions used in Linux. I still
>    have this vision of M$ lawyers waiting until
>    enough Linux stuff is writ using their stuff
>    and then POUNCING.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that
they aren't out to get you.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  I tried to join Paranoids
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  Anonymous but they wouldn't
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  tell me where they hold
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  their meetings.

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#80500 — Re: Naughty C♯

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-01-05 05:57 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<8pI6R.1243340$79B9.1051909@fx14.iad>
In reply to#80491
On 2026-01-05, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

> On 1/4/26 16:18, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 19:41:11 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> 
>>> Does C# qualify as a Microsoft proprietary language? Or are there
>>> implementations on OSes other than Windows (and compilers, either
>>> open source or available from other vendors)?
>> 
>> The only implementation I’m aware of is Microsoft’s one built on top
>> of Dotnet.
>> 
>> Dotnet itself is supposedly open-source and portable to some degree
>> now. There are reports of it running on Linux.
>
>    That would be very end-around ...
>
>    Maybe just to forget C# ... CPP is good enough.
>
>    Actually, don't even like CPP ... plain 'C' has
>    so far met all my needs.

Ditto - and I'm too old to change now.  I'd rather spend
what little time I have on having fun and maintaining my
existing code base (including comprehensive home-brewed
C libraries) rather than going through the software
equivalent of moving to a foreign country.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#80518 — Re: Naughty C♯

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-01-05 17:48 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<ms2brmFbv84U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#80500
On Mon, 05 Jan 2026 05:57:24 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2026-01-05, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 1/4/26 16:18, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 19:41:11 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does C# qualify as a Microsoft proprietary language? Or are there
>>>> implementations on OSes other than Windows (and compilers, either
>>>> open source or available from other vendors)?
>>> 
>>> The only implementation I’m aware of is Microsoft’s one built on top
>>> of Dotnet.
>>> 
>>> Dotnet itself is supposedly open-source and portable to some degree
>>> now. There are reports of it running on Linux.
>>
>>    That would be very end-around ...
>>
>>    Maybe just to forget C# ... CPP is good enough.
>>
>>    Actually, don't even like CPP ... plain 'C' has so far met all my
>>    needs.
> 
> Ditto - and I'm too old to change now.  I'd rather spend what little
> time I have on having fun and maintaining my existing code base
> (including comprehensive home-brewed C libraries) rather than going
> through the software equivalent of moving to a foreign country.

The C changes over the years like being able to declare variables where 
they are first used and single line comments were something I greeted with 
"Hell yeah!" rather than "What CS PhD dreamed this crap up?"

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#80521 — Re: Naughty C♯

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-01-05 18:09 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<10jguou$341pn$1@nntp.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#80518
On 05/01/2026 17:48, rbowman wrote:
> The C changes over the years like being able to declare variables where
> they are first used and single line comments were something I greeted with
> "Hell yeah!" rather than "What CS PhD dreamed this crap up?"

Spot on.

C is enough to do the job and simple to learn. Why complicate shit?

-- 
Any fool can believe in principles -  and most of them do!


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#80526 — Re: Naughty C♯

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-01-05 18:20 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<IhT6R.852065$u2q8.278599@fx11.iad>
In reply to#80521
On 2026-01-05, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 05/01/2026 17:48, rbowman wrote:
>
>> The C changes over the years like being able to declare variables where
>> they are first used and single line comments were something I greeted with
>> "Hell yeah!" rather than "What CS PhD dreamed this crap up?"
>
> Spot on.
>
> C is enough to do the job and simple to learn. Why complicate shit?

Let me guess: so companies can sell you a new compiler every year,
plus courses in how to use the new shit.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#80527 — Re: Naughty C♯

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-01-05 18:24 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<QlT6R.437085$MzT8.313611@fx47.iad>
In reply to#80526
On 2026-01-05, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:

> On 2026-01-05, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 05/01/2026 17:48, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> The C changes over the years like being able to declare variables where
>>> they are first used and single line comments were something I greeted with
>>> "Hell yeah!" rather than "What CS PhD dreamed this crap up?"
>>
>> Spot on.
>>
>> C is enough to do the job and simple to learn. Why complicate shit?
>
> Let me guess: so companies can sell you a new compiler every year,
> plus courses in how to use the new shit.

Oh, and so conslutants can bleed you white offering so-called "solutions".

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#80538 — Re: Naughty C♯

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-01-05 21:44 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<10jhbbm$3993m$2@nntp.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#80526
On Mon, 05 Jan 2026 18:20:24 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> Let me guess: so companies can sell you a new compiler every year,
> plus courses in how to use the new shit.

Nobody pays money for compilers any more. All the important tools are
open-source now.

The days of trying to monetize development tools, like in the 1980s
and 1990s, are long past.

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#80546 — Re: Naughty C♯

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-01-05 19:31 -0500
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<wcKcnf79-cR4ysH0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#80526
On 1/5/26 13:20, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-01-05, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 05/01/2026 17:48, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> The C changes over the years like being able to declare variables where
>>> they are first used and single line comments were something I greeted with
>>> "Hell yeah!" rather than "What CS PhD dreamed this crap up?"
>>
>> Spot on.
>>
>> C is enough to do the job and simple to learn. Why complicate shit?
> 
> Let me guess: so companies can sell you a new compiler every year,
> plus courses in how to use the new shit.

   Cynical ... but perhaps partially true.

   Mostly, it's that everybody thinks they
   have the Better Idea, the Better Approach.

   There really isn't anything you can't do
   with 'C'. However 'C' is kind of CLUNKY
   sometimes - so people find ways to hide
   that, write something more 'elegant' in
   the process. Python is ACTUALLY 'C' ...
   but many of the clunky and/or long bits
   have been much streamlined.

   Hmm ... look at all the GNU 'compilers' -
   FORTRAN, COBOL, Ada, 'D', M2, Rust,C++,
   G++, even Algol-68. None are 'compilers'
   per-se, but to-'C' TRANSLATORS. So, 'C',
   pretty much All Are One And One Is All.

   But it CAN be much more friendly and/or
   tuned to a particular area of interest
   or preferred programming style.

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#80573 — Re: Naughty C♯

Fromantispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch)
Date2026-01-06 12:16 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<10jiufh$1an77$1@paganini.bofh.team>
In reply to#80546
In alt.folklore.computers c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
<snip> 
>   Hmm ... look at all the GNU 'compilers' -
>   FORTRAN, COBOL, Ada, 'D', M2, Rust,C++,
>   G++, even Algol-68. None are 'compilers'
>   per-se, but to-'C' TRANSLATORS. So, 'C',
>   pretty much All Are One And One Is All.

No.  Compiler as first stage translate given language to a
common representation.  This representatiton is different
than C.  Ada and GNU Pascal have parametrized types, there
is nothing like that in C.  C++ (and some other languages)
have exceptions, C do not have them.  There are several
smaller things, for example Ada or Pascal modulo is different
that C/Fortran modulo.  During optimization passes gcc
keeps such information, to allow better optimization and
error reporting.

There were/are compilers that work by translating to C.  But
this has limitations: generated code typically is worse because
language specific information is lost in translation.  Error
reporting is worse because translator is not doing as many
analyzes as gcc do.  For those reasons compilers in gcc
generate common representation which contains sum of features
of all supported languages and not C.

>   But it CAN be much more friendly and/or
>   tuned to a particular area of interest
>   or preferred programming style.

-- 
                              Waldek Hebisch

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#80586 — Re: Naughty C♯

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2026-01-06 11:12 -0500
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<10jjc9s$3uhtk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#80573
Waldek Hebisch wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:

> In alt.folklore.computers c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> <snip> 
>>   Hmm ... look at all the GNU 'compilers' -
>>   FORTRAN, COBOL, Ada, 'D', M2, Rust,C++,
>>   G++, even Algol-68. None are 'compilers'
>>   per-se, but to-'C' TRANSLATORS. So, 'C',
>>   pretty much All Are One And One Is All.
>
> No.  Compiler as first stage translate given language to a
> common representation.  This representatiton is different
> than C.  Ada and GNU Pascal have parametrized types, there
> is nothing like that in C.
>
> <interjection>
>
> C++ (and some other languages)
> have exceptions, C do not have them.

What about setjmp()/longjmp() ?

> </interjection>
>
> There are several
> smaller things, for example Ada or Pascal modulo is different
> that C/Fortran modulo.  During optimization passes gcc
> keeps such information, to allow better optimization and
> error reporting.
>
> There were/are compilers that work by translating to C.  But
> this has limitations: generated code typically is worse because
> language specific information is lost in translation.  Error
> reporting is worse because translator is not doing as many
> analyzes as gcc do.  For those reasons compilers in gcc
> generate common representation which contains sum of features
> of all supported languages and not C.

-- 
Paul's Law:
	You can't fall off the floor.

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#80589 — Re: Naughty C♯

Fromcross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Date2026-01-06 16:25 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<10jjd2a$e8$2@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#80586
In article <10jjc9s$3uhtk$1@dont-email.me>,
Chris Ahlstrom  <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>Waldek Hebisch wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
>
>> In alt.folklore.computers c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>> <snip> 
>>>   Hmm ... look at all the GNU 'compilers' -
>>>   FORTRAN, COBOL, Ada, 'D', M2, Rust,C++,
>>>   G++, even Algol-68. None are 'compilers'
>>>   per-se, but to-'C' TRANSLATORS. So, 'C',
>>>   pretty much All Are One And One Is All.
>>
>> No.  Compiler as first stage translate given language to a
>> common representation.  This representatiton is different
>> than C.  Ada and GNU Pascal have parametrized types, there
>> is nothing like that in C.
>>
>> <interjection>
>>
>> C++ (and some other languages)
>> have exceptions, C do not have them.
>
>What about setjmp()/longjmp() ?

Not at all the same thing.  `setjmp`/`longjmp` are about
non-local flows of control; exceptions are about non-local
passing of values.

Of course, one can use `setjmp` and `longjmp` to build an ersatz
exception system, but only as a part.  One can also use them to
build green threads, but they are not in themselves "threads".

	- Dan C.

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#80598 — Re: Naughty C♯

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2026-01-06 17:59 +0000
SubjectRe: Naughty C♯
Message-ID<84c7R.819121$PGrb.160843@fx10.iad>
In reply to#80589
cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes:
>In article <10jjc9s$3uhtk$1@dont-email.me>,
>Chris Ahlstrom  <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>Waldek Hebisch wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
>>
>>> In alt.folklore.computers c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>> <snip> 
>>>>   Hmm ... look at all the GNU 'compilers' -
>>>>   FORTRAN, COBOL, Ada, 'D', M2, Rust,C++,
>>>>   G++, even Algol-68. None are 'compilers'
>>>>   per-se, but to-'C' TRANSLATORS. So, 'C',
>>>>   pretty much All Are One And One Is All.
>>>
>>> No.  Compiler as first stage translate given language to a
>>> common representation.  This representatiton is different
>>> than C.  Ada and GNU Pascal have parametrized types, there
>>> is nothing like that in C.
>>>
>>> <interjection>
>>>
>>> C++ (and some other languages)
>>> have exceptions, C do not have them.
>>
>>What about setjmp()/longjmp() ?
>
>Not at all the same thing.  `setjmp`/`longjmp` are about
>non-local flows of control; exceptions are about non-local
>passing of values.

However, in many real world situations, [sig]setjump and
[sig]longjmp can be used to emulate exceptions.

I have a C++ application that models a computer (Burroughs V380
et alia).   The thread that models each processor (cpu) uses
longjmp whenever a condition is encountered that would have
been signaled as a fault on the real cpu.    The processor code
doesn't do dynamic memory allocation;  and the fault code is
stored in the processor class before the longjmp call.

I once tried replacing setjmp/longjmp with C++ exceptions which
led to a 20% reduction in simulated CPU performance (as measured
by the time to compile a COBOL program).

    //
    // Now we execute the instruction.
    //
    switch (setjmp(p_fault)) {
    case 0:
        //
        // If a fault was thrown (longjmp) during operand
        // fetch, p_fetch_fault will be true, the state of the
        // p_operands[] array will be indeterminate and we don't
        // want to execute the instruction.  Unless it is a non-taken
        // branch, that is, which is allowed to have e.g. undigits in
        // the branch address.  Blech.   This means the branch ops
        // must test the p_operands[0] value before accessing it.
        //
        if (branch || !p_fetch_fault) {
            failed = (this->*opp->op_insn)(opp);
        }

        if (branch) {
            if (!p_taken) {
                if (p_fetch_fault) {
                    p_fetch_fault = false;
                    p_rd.clear();
                }
            }
        }

        if (p_fetch_fault) {
            char buf[10];
            char buf1[20];

            p_rd.format(buf1, sizeof(buf1));
            p_logger->log("[%01lu/%04lu] Fetch Fault %s at @%s:%06llu\n",
                          p_procnum, p_curtasknum, buf1,
                          p_active_env.print(buf, sizeof(buf)), p_ip);
            failed = true;
        }
        break;
    case 1:
        failed = false;
        //
        // Generic error.  Assume failed;  there's most likely a non-zero
        // processor Result Descriptor (p_rd) at this point.
        //
        break;
    case 2:
        //
        // Hard memory area fault.   We've already done the hardware call
        // procedure (since we knew the mast number), so the processor R/D
        // has already been stored and cleared.   Fake success for the op
        // to handle the fault.
        //
        failed = false;
        break;
    case 3:
        //
        // Maintenance processor requested a stop while we were idle on a
        // IDL or BRV instruction.   Just replay the instruction.
        //
        p_logger->log("[%1.1lu/%4.4lu] Maintenance Processor Stop\n",
                      p_procnum, p_curtasknum);
        p_ip = p_origip;
        return false;
    }

inline void
c_processor::instruction_error(instruction_error_t extension)
{
    p_rd.instruction_error(extension);
    //p_logger->backtrace();
    longjmp(p_fault, 1);
}

inline void
c_processor::address_error(address_error_t extension)
{
    p_rd.address_error(extension);
    //p_logger->backtrace();
    longjmp(p_fault, 1);
}

/**
 * Raise an instruction_timeout.   Caused by infinite (or too long) recursion in
 * indirect field lengths, indirect addresses and search list instructions.
 */
inline void
c_processor::instruction_timeout(void)
{
    p_rd.instruction_timeout();
    longjmp(p_fault, 1);
}

inline void
c_processor::stack_overflow(void)
{
    p_rd.stack_overflow();
    longjmp(p_fault, 1);
}

inline void
c_processor::invalid_arithmetic_data(void)
{
    p_rd.invalid_arithmetic_data();
    //p_logger->backtrace();
    longjmp(p_fault, 1);
}

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