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Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice

Started byLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
First post2025-12-23 22:51 +0000
Last post2025-12-29 13:29 +0000
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  Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-23 22:51 +0000
    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-24 06:27 -0600
      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 13:24 +0000
        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-24 19:08 +0000
        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-25 02:21 +0000
          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 21:35 -0500
            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-26 09:06 -0800
              Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-26 18:38 +0000
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-26 11:53 -0800
                  Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-26 23:15 +0000
                  Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-26 22:49 -0500
                  Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 12:52 +0000
                  Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-01-06 23:09 +0000
                    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 15:25 -0800
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-26 20:49 +0000
                  Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 03:56 +0000
                    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-26 20:37 -0800
                      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 05:59 +0000
                        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 08:51 +0000
                      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 09:13 +0000
                        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 23:01 +0000
                          X11 forks (was: Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 10:43 +0000
                            Re: X11 forks (was: Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 03:35 +0000
                            Re: X11 forks Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-12-29 18:14 +1000
                              Re: X11 forks c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 03:28 -0500
                                Re: X11 forks not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-30 07:30 +1000
                                  Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 09:33 +0100
                                    Re: X11 forks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 08:47 +0000
                                      Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 14:46 +0100
                                      Wayland hardware requirements (was: Re: X11 forks) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 09:25 +0000
                                        Re: Wayland hardware requirements The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:12 +0000
                                        Re: Wayland hardware requirements not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-01-01 07:31 +1000
                                    Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 03:19 +0000
                                      Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-31 11:50 +0100
                                        Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:09 +0000
                                          Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-31 18:48 +0100
                                            Re: X11 forks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 20:59 +0000
                                              Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-01 02:51 +0100
                                                Re: X11 forks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 02:33 +0000
                                                  Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 06:01 +0000
                                                Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 03:10 +0000
                                                Re: X11 forks Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-01 04:04 -0600
                                                Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 13:10 +0000
                                                  Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-01 14:28 +0100
                                                    Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 14:00 +0000
                                                    Re: X11 forks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 19:12 +0000
                                                    Re: X11 forks vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-02 04:15 +0000
                                          Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:54 +0000
                                      Re: X11 forks John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2025-12-31 14:28 -0500
                                        Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-31 20:43 +0100
                                        Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 20:00 +0000
                                          Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:58 +0000
                                            Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 02:56 +0000
                                        Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:45 +0000
                                Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 02:20 +0000
                      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 09:48 +0000
                        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-27 06:22 -0500
                          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 12:55 +0000
                            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-27 11:50 -0500
                              Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 18:20 +0000
                                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-27 22:33 -0500
                                  Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 03:40 +0000
                                    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 00:50 -0500
                                    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:31 +0000
                            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 22:55 +0000
                              Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 23:35 +0000
                          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-27 13:29 +0000
                            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-27 11:53 -0500
                            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 21:32 +0000
                        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 12:54 +0000
                        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 22:52 +0000
                        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:11 +0100
                          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 13:35 +0000
                    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-27 01:05 -0500
                      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 08:59 +0000
                        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-27 04:42 -0500
                          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 22:11 +0000
                    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:05 +0100
                      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 13:34 +0000
                      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 03:21 +0000
                        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 12:58 +0100
                  Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-26 22:56 -0500
                    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 12:57 +0000
                      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 22:31 +0000
                    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-28 14:33 +0000
                      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 12:40 -0500
                      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 20:12 +0000
                      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-28 21:00 +0000
                        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 22:17 +0100
                          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-28 22:56 +0000
                            Service startup errors Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-29 00:16 +0000
                              Re: Service startup errors Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 02:08 +0000
                                Re: Service startup errors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 03:15 +0100
                                  Re: Service startup errors Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 03:39 +0000
                                    Re: Service startup errors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 12:59 +0100
                              Re: Service startup errors c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:47 -0500
                                Re: Service startup errors Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-30 18:53 +0000
                                  Re: Service startup errors rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 03:12 +0000
                                    Re: Service startup errors vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-12-31 04:40 +0000
                                      Re: Service startup errors rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 08:24 +0000
                                      Re: Service startup errors Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 18:55 +0000
                                        Re: Service startup errors Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-01-01 04:29 +0000
                                          Re: Service startup errors Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 04:38 +0000
                                            Re: Service startup errors Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-01-01 04:58 +0000
                                          Re: Service startup errors The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 13:13 +0000
                                    Re: Service startup errors Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 09:13 +0000
                                      Re: Service startup errors Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 09:53 +0000
                                        Re: Service startup errors Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 09:59 +0000
                                        Re: Service startup errors Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 21:04 +0000
                                          Re: Service startup errors rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 02:31 +0000
                                      Re: Service startup errors rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:49 +0000
                                    Re: Service startup errors Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 18:55 +0000
                                      Re: Service startup errors rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:41 +0000
                                      Re: Service startup errors Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 20:13 +0000
                            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 03:16 +0100
                              Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 03:49 +0000
                                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:00 -0500
                                  Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:12 +0000
                                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:04 +0100
                                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:14 +0000
                                  Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 22:43 +0100
                                    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 22:09 +0000
                                      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 23:24 +0100
                                    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 22:12 +0000
                                      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 23:27 +0100
                                        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 22:29 +0000
                                          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-31 11:59 +0100
              Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-26 22:45 -0500
          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-25 03:26 +0000
          How distros can get choosen by chance (was: Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-25 10:51 +0000
            Re: How distros can get choosen by chance jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-12-25 13:27 -0500
              Re: How distros can get choosen by chance rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-25 18:40 +0000
                Re: How distros can get choosen by chance Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-25 12:34 -0800
                  Re: How distros can get choosen by chance rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-25 22:11 +0000
                    Re: How distros can get choosen by chance Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-25 14:55 -0800
                Re: How distros can get choosen by chance "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:28 +0100
                  Re: How distros can get choosen by chance rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 02:09 +0000
              Re: How distros can get choosen by chance Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-25 21:05 +0000
                Re: How distros can get choosen by chance rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-25 22:22 +0000
        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-24 21:37 -0600
          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-25 11:46 +0000
            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-25 11:59 -0500
              Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-26 07:04 +0000
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-26 02:27 -0500
            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-25 23:07 -0600
    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 13:56 +0100
      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 13:32 +0000
        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:51 +0100
          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:02 +0000
            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 21:46 +0100
        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 16:24 +0000
          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-28 17:31 +0000
            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 12:53 -0500
              Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-28 20:16 +0000
              Linux GUIs Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-29 00:10 +0000
                Re: Linux GUIs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 02:09 +0000
                  Re: Linux GUIs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:50 -0500
                    Re: Linux GUIs Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 10:16 +0000
                      Re: Linux GUIs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 05:23 -0500
                    Re: Linux GUIs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:09 +0100
                      Re: Linux GUIs Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-29 14:29 +0100
                        Re: Linux GUIs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 17:25 +0000
                          Re: Linux GUIs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 01:04 -0500
                            Re: Linux GUIs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 02:53 +0000
                        Re: Linux GUIs not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-30 07:32 +1000
                          Re: Linux GUIs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 01:07 +0000
                            Re: Linux GUIs John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-30 09:01 -0800
                              Re: Linux GUIs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 12:58 -0500
                                Re: Linux GUIs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 02:47 +0000
                          Re: Linux GUIs Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-12-30 13:02 +0100
                      Re: Linux GUIs Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-29 06:43 -0800
                      Re: Linux GUIs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 22:09 +0000
                Re: Linux GUIs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 21:29 -0500
                Re: Linux GUIs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 02:57 +0000
                  Re: Linux GUIs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 22:13 -0500
                  Re: Linux GUIs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:11 +0100
                    Re: Linux GUIs The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:21 +0000
                      Re: Linux GUIs Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 15:56 +0000
                        Re: Linux GUIs Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 22:08 +0000
              Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 02:37 +0000
            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-28 20:57 +0000
            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 02:35 +0000
            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 10:08 +0000
              Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:32 +0000
              Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 22:07 +0000
          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 02:21 +0000
            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 22:08 -0500
      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-28 20:56 +0000
        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-28 20:43 -0500
          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 03:23 +0100
          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 03:16 +0000
        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 03:15 +0000
          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 10:21 +0000
            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 05:26 -0500
            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:29 +0000

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#79753 — Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-12-23 22:51 +0000
SubjectLubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice
Message-ID<10if6e3$kag3$1@dont-email.me>
I look at an article like this
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/lubuntu-versus-xubuntu/>, comparing two
different GUIs on Ubuntu, and I immediately think “¿Por qué no los
dos?”. Who says it has to be either/or? The only difference between
the two Ubuntu “flavours” is the choice of packages on initial
installation. They’re both the same distro underneath, and there’s
nothing stopping you from installing both GUIs (not to mention all the
others that come with Ubuntu), because they all come in the same
standard repo, and switching between them is as easy as logging out
and logging in again.

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#79782

Fromkouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org>
Date2025-12-24 06:27 -0600
Message-ID<10igm6l$10hm7$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79753
Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> I look at an article like this
> <https://www.zdnet.com/article/lubuntu-versus-xubuntu/>, comparing two
> different GUIs on Ubuntu, and I immediately think “¿Por qué no los
> dos?”. Who says it has to be either/or? The only difference between
> the two Ubuntu “flavours” is the choice of packages on initial
> installation. They’re both the same distro underneath, and there’s
> nothing stopping you from installing both GUIs (not to mention all the
> others that come with Ubuntu), because they all come in the same
> standard repo, and switching between them is as easy as logging out
> and logging in again.

Obligatory "your distro sucks" but if you are choosing between two Ubuntus,
choose neither.

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#79795

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-24 13:24 +0000
Message-ID<10igpir$1086g$16@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79782
On 24/12/2025 12:27, kouya wrote:
> Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> I look at an article like this
>> <https://www.zdnet.com/article/lubuntu-versus-xubuntu/>, comparing two
>> different GUIs on Ubuntu, and I immediately think “¿Por qué no los
>> dos?”. Who says it has to be either/or? The only difference between
>> the two Ubuntu “flavours” is the choice of packages on initial
>> installation. They’re both the same distro underneath, and there’s
>> nothing stopping you from installing both GUIs (not to mention all the
>> others that come with Ubuntu), because they all come in the same
>> standard repo, and switching between them is as easy as logging out
>> and logging in again.
> 
> Obligatory "your distro sucks" but if you are choosing between two Ubuntus,
> choose neither.

It's all part of Marxist dialectic technique : The ostensible purpose of 
the argument is to select between two or more  options, but the real 
purpose is to change the agenda to that subject..

My randomised .sig has selected the correct aphorism in this case.

Its not about what you personally think, its about placing the subject 
in your consciousness and making you make choices about it that you 
haven't the courage to say 'I actually don't give a fuck' to.

Likewise restricting the argument to Ubuntu suggests that no other 
distro is *even worth considering*. And that the choice of which flavour 
is in fact, important.

I could probably get along famously with any modern distro. I simply 
keep using Mint 'because it was the one I arrived at first, that was 
good enough that I looked no further'

And has continued to be.


-- 
"What do you think about Gay Marriage?"
"I don't."
"Don't what?"
"Think about Gay Marriage."

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#79803

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-12-24 19:08 +0000
Message-ID<10ihdn7$1aaqu$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79795
On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:24:43 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Likewise restricting the argument to Ubuntu suggests that no other
> distro is *even worth considering*.

Like a discussion about cars suggests that no other form of transport
is *even worth considering*. Or mentioning Marxim suggests that no
other political system is *even worth considering*.

Or indeed, your participation in this thread, on this newsgroup,
suggests that no other thread on any other newsgroup is *even worth
considering*.

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#79815

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-25 02:21 +0000
Message-ID<mr3ld3F6vguU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79795
On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:24:43 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> I could probably get along famously with any modern distro. I simply
> keep using Mint 'because it was the one I arrived at first, that was
> good enough that I looked no further'

My choice to put Ubuntu on the mini was entirely rational. I had a couple 
of other isos that weren't responding well and the Ubuntu one worked. When 
I revamped a couple of older machines I put different distros on them just 
for variety. I'm not a fan of Ubuntu GNOME but I can live with it. 

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#79818

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-12-24 21:35 -0500
Message-ID<JmednRBE9pd2P9H0nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#79815
On 12/24/25 21:21, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:24:43 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> I could probably get along famously with any modern distro. I simply
>> keep using Mint 'because it was the one I arrived at first, that was
>> good enough that I looked no further'
> 
> My choice to put Ubuntu on the mini was entirely rational. I had a couple
> of other isos that weren't responding well and the Ubuntu one worked. When
> I revamped a couple of older machines I put different distros on them just
> for variety. I'm not a fan of Ubuntu GNOME but I can live with it.

   Uhhgh ! I can't.

   LXDE remains my fave - JUST enough GUI, little CPU
   wasted on eye candy or other bullshit. Can't always
   get LXDE for every distro however, so XFCE comes
   in second ... but I add lxterminal and pcmanfm if
   at all possible.

   KDE ? No. Never.

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#79872

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2025-12-26 09:06 -0800
Message-ID<20251226090654.00000d42@gmail.com>
In reply to#79818
On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 21:35:22 -0500
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

> > My choice to put Ubuntu on the mini was entirely rational. I had a
> > couple of other isos that weren't responding well and the Ubuntu
> > one worked. When I revamped a couple of older machines I put
> > different distros on them just for variety. I'm not a fan of Ubuntu
> > GNOME but I can live with it.  
> 
>  Uhhgh ! I can't.
> 
> LXDE remains my fave - JUST enough GUI, little CPU wasted on eye
> candy or other bullshit. Can't always get LXDE for every distro
> however, so XFCE comes in second ... but I add lxterminal and pcmanfm
> if at all possible.
> 
> KDE ? No. Never.

AFAIK aren't all these DE-flavored "spin" sub-distros connecting to the
same repository? Is it not possible to just swap out the default DE for
your environment of choice? I never did see the point of doing it that
way, but even if you're stuck with this or that "flavor" for $REASONS
it should be easy enough to switch off of the part you hate, unless I'm
greatly mistaken.

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#79875

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-26 18:38 +0000
Message-ID<mr830cFtgkdU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79872
On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 09:06:54 -0800, John Ames wrote:

> AFAIK aren't all these DE-flavored "spin" sub-distros connecting to the
> same repository? Is it not possible to just swap out the default DE for
> your environment of choice? I never did see the point of doing it that
> way, but even if you're stuck with this or that "flavor" for $REASONS it
> should be easy enough to switch off of the part you hate, unless I'm
> greatly mistaken.

Theoretically. At one point I installed a GNOME distro, didn't like it, 
and added KDE. It worked, mostly, but had some occasional problems when 
updating. More recently I installed Linux Mint MATE on one laptop and 
added Xfce. It seemed to work although I didn't use either DE heavily. I 
reinstalled LM Cinnamon when I switched to a SSD. 

I have added sway to two KDE boxes and i3 to the LM box. That seems to 
work although at one point the system got confused when I called MATE GUIs 
from i3. Like my earlier GNOME/KDE experience I think you have to limit 
mixing and matching for the best experience. I never tried it but from 
some forum posts adding a DE and trying to uninstall the original DE 
doesn't work well.

With EndeavourOS if you choose the offline installation you get KDE but if 
you select online you select the DE during the installation. I think that 
makes more sense than having separate isos for each flavor like Mint, 
spins like Fedora, or K, X, L, etc Ubuntus that give the impression 
they're different projects.

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#79879

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2025-12-26 11:53 -0800
Message-ID<20251226115341.000071a8@gmail.com>
In reply to#79875
On 26 Dec 2025 18:38:04 GMT
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> Theoretically. [...] I never tried it but from some forum posts
> adding a DE and trying to uninstall the original DE doesn't work well.

Ah, the "odds & ends left lying around" class of problems. I've long
since taken to installing with no GUI components at all and then adding
what I want after the fact, for essentially that reason.

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#79889

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-12-26 23:15 +0000
Message-ID<10in4ut$30jek$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79879
On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 11:53:41 -0800, John Ames wrote:

>> ... from some forum posts> adding a DE and trying to uninstall the
>> original DE doesn't work well.
>
> Ah, the "odds & ends left lying around" class of problems.

“apt get autoremove” is your friend.

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#79891

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-12-26 22:49 -0500
Message-ID<gpWcna70rp_TytL0nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#79879
On 12/26/25 14:53, John Ames wrote:
> On 26 Dec 2025 18:38:04 GMT
> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> Theoretically. [...] I never tried it but from some forum posts
>> adding a DE and trying to uninstall the original DE doesn't work well.
> 
> Ah, the "odds & ends left lying around" class of problems. I've long
> since taken to installing with no GUI components at all and then adding
> what I want after the fact, for essentially that reason.

   Agree with the previous poster - you're in for nothing
   but trouble if you try to nuke the original provided
   DE - way too many loose ends. Unless using KDE, the
   code for a DE isn't THAT damned big - so just install
   the DE you want and pick it at login. Almost always
   yer last choice will be remembered.

   On a couple occasions I've installed an XFCE distro
   and then wanted to install LXDE and nuke XFCE. NOT good.

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#79909

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-27 12:52 +0000
Message-ID<10iokpo$3f97e$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79879
On 26/12/2025 19:53, John Ames wrote:
> On 26 Dec 2025 18:38:04 GMT
> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> Theoretically. [...] I never tried it but from some forum posts
>> adding a DE and trying to uninstall the original DE doesn't work well.
> 
> Ah, the "odds & ends left lying around" class of problems. I've long
> since taken to installing with no GUI components at all and then adding
> what I want after the fact, for essentially that reason.
> 
I would do that if the normal distro wasn't acceptable from the get go.
But it is.


-- 
Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend.

"Saki"

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#80633

FromJim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk>
Date2026-01-06 23:09 +0000
Message-ID<slrn10lr5h5.at6.jj@iridium.wf32df>
In reply to#79879
On 2025-12-26, John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 26 Dec 2025 18:38:04 GMT
> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>
>> Theoretically. [...] I never tried it but from some forum posts
>> adding a DE and trying to uninstall the original DE doesn't work well.
>
> Ah, the "odds & ends left lying around" class of problems. I've long
> since taken to installing with no GUI components at all and then adding
> what I want after the fact, for essentially that reason.
>

Amen to that. My personal setup is lightdm, openbox, the venerable 
xterm, and lxpanel. Don't use a file manager, as I'm happy with the 
commandline. Most graphical apps work just install and work fine. But 
then I'm not too bothered by the "integration" fad (;-), and I've never 
really understood why all the extra cruft is necessary.

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#80635

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2026-01-06 15:25 -0800
Message-ID<20260106152513.00007767@gmail.com>
In reply to#80633
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 23:09:25 -0000 (UTC)
Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote:

> > Ah, the "odds & ends left lying around" class of problems. I've long
> > since taken to installing with no GUI components at all and then
> > adding what I want after the fact, for essentially that reason.
> 
> Amen to that. My personal setup is lightdm, openbox, the venerable 
> xterm, and lxpanel. Don't use a file manager, as I'm happy with the 
> commandline. Most graphical apps work just install and work fine. But 
> then I'm not too bothered by the "integration" fad (;-), and I've
> never really understood why all the extra cruft is necessary.

I'll take a file manager, myself; command-line is superior for anything
involving mass operations and pattern-matching, but a GUI (or TUI, if
you prefer one of the curses-based FMs) is easier for picking arbitrary
files out of a large set.

(Have actually spent the last week-plus doing both, as I finally got
around to a spring-clean on 10-12 years' worth of random downloads and
found myself sorting out images from countless artists with filenames
in several different formats, at least one of which preserved both case
and special characters early on, forced lower case at some point, and
then munged special characters later, and vgrepping to spot duplicates
along the way. Quite a workout, some ~45k files in total...)

Have been pretty settled on WindowMaker with SpaceFM and QTerminal for
some years now; used to use PCManFM and RoxTerm prior to that. Have
never understood the need for my media player to integrate with the
kitchen sink over dbus, frankly...

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#79880

FromLars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com>
Date2025-12-26 20:49 +0000
Message-ID<slrn10ktt6o.rut.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>
In reply to#79875
On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 09:06:54 -0800, John Ames wrote:
>> AFAIK aren't all these DE-flavored "spin" sub-distros connecting to the
>> same repository? Is it not possible to just swap out the default DE for
>> your environment of choice? I never did see the point of doing it that
>> way, but even if you're stuck with this or that "flavor" for $REASONS it
>> should be easy enough to switch off of the part you hate, unless I'm
>> greatly mistaken.

My thoughts exactly.

On 2025-12-26, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> Theoretically. At one point I installed a GNOME distro, didn't like it, 
> and added KDE. It worked, mostly, but had some occasional problems when 
> updating. More recently I installed Linux Mint MATE on one laptop and 
> added Xfce. It seemed to work although I didn't use either DE heavily. I 
> reinstalled LM Cinnamon when I switched to a SSD. 
>
> I have added sway to two KDE boxes and i3 to the LM box. That seems to 
> work although at one point the system got confused when I called MATE GUIs 
> from i3. Like my earlier GNOME/KDE experience I think you have to limit 
> mixing and matching for the best experience. I never tried it but from 
> some forum posts adding a DE and trying to uninstall the original DE 
> doesn't work well.
>
> With EndeavourOS if you choose the offline installation you get KDE but if 
> you select online you select the DE during the installation. I think that 
> makes more sense than having separate isos for each flavor like Mint, 
> spins like Fedora, or K, X, L, etc Ubuntus that give the impression 
> they're different projects.

I think your experiences described above kinda validate Fedora's
approach to "spins". I.e. the main project takes responsibility for
several flavors without the heavy rebranding. The difficulty that
appears only when upgrading are issues in the packaging scripts.

The BIG differences between distributions are
- initd vs systemd
- RPM vs apt

And the next important difference seems to be GNOME vs KDE.
The rest is things that should be runtime-settable options.
And "cinnamon-mint" and the like should be packaged as an
add-on package of theme scripts
-- 
Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California

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#79892

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-27 03:56 +0000
Message-ID<mr93n2F4a15U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79880
On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd - RPM
> vs apt

Well, sort of.  There are .deb and .rpm packages.  The Apt Package Tool 
uses .deb packages. Most Debian derived distros I'm familiar with use 
apt. 

There is a RPM Package manager that uses .rpm files (surprise), but there 
are frontends for it too. Fedora did use yum but now uses dnf. /usr/bin/
yum is a symlink to dnf.  OpenSUSE has zypper and a couple of other .rpm 
based distros have their own package managers.

Then there is Arch Linux and pacman. That's the odd one. Rather than dnf 
update or apt update is pacman -Syu, with a similar syntax for installs. 
There are ways, not recommended, to use .deb or .rpm packages in Arch. I'm 
not that brave. Then there is the yay frontend to the Arch User Repository 
(AUR) that's more like automating building a tarball.

There's probably other schemes given the 100+ distros.

You also missed the other big food fight, Wayland vs. x11.

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#79896

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2025-12-26 20:37 -0800
Message-ID<10innr9$36osk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79892

On 12/26/25 19:56, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:
> 
>> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd - RPM
>> vs apt
	
	There are several other init systems in use as well though only the 
discerning
can understand the differences in results.

> 
> Well, sort of.  There are .deb and .rpm packages.  The Apt Package Tool
> uses .deb packages. Most Debian derived distros I'm familiar with use
> apt.
> 
> There is a RPM Package manager that uses .rpm files (surprise), but there
> are frontends for it too. Fedora did use yum but now uses dnf. /usr/bin/
> yum is a symlink to dnf.  OpenSUSE has zypper and a couple of other .rpm
> based distros have their own package managers.

	PCLinuxOS has been using Synaptic with .rpm packages for a long time 
but it
seems it will going to DNF which seems less capable than Synaptic from 
my very
limited POV.

> 
> Then there is Arch Linux and pacman. That's the odd one. Rather than dnf
> update or apt update is pacman -Syu, with a similar syntax for installs.
> There are ways, not recommended, to use .deb or .rpm packages in Arch. I'm
> not that brave. Then there is the yay frontend to the Arch User Repository
> (AUR) that's more like automating building a tarball.
> 
> There's probably other schemes given the 100+ distros.

	Some distros are built around a completely different package manager or 
aspire
to "immutability" which I find a dubious and slippery concept.

> 
> You also missed the other big food fight, Wayland vs. x11.
> 
	It continues with a small group working on another x11 replacement.
Wayland is supposed to support all of X11 functions but the demanding
users know that it falls short in some areas.

bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2026- Linux 6.12.63-pclos1- KDE Plasma 
6.5.4

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#79897

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-12-27 05:59 +0000
Message-ID<10insja$37l3o$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79896
On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:37:59 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

> PCLinuxOS has been using Synaptic with .rpm packages for a long time
> but it seems it will going to DNF which seems less capable than
> Synaptic from my very limited POV.

I wonder whatever happened to apt4rpm ...

> Wayland is supposed to support all of X11 functions but the
> demanding users know that it falls short in some areas.

No, Wayland was never going to carry over all the X11 legacy baggage.
It was just going to concentrate on being a compositor, nothing more.

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#79900

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-12-27 08:51 +0000
Message-ID<mr9kvrF7166U5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79897
On Sat, 27 Dec 2025 05:59:07 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:


> I wonder whatever happened to apt4rpm ...

Alive and well on PCLinuxOS hiding behind Synaptic.

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#79902

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-27 09:13 +0000
Message-ID<10io80e$3ae14$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#79896
On 2025-12-27, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

> On 12/26/25 19:56, rbowman wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 20:49:28 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>
>>> The BIG differences between distributions are - initd vs systemd - RPM
>>> vs apt
> 	
> 	There are several other init systems in use as well though
> only the discerning
> can understand the differences in results.

Even those classified as sysvinit can have significant differences, to
the point that, while not capable of some things, they're definitely
sufficient in a bunch of contexts.

>> Well, sort of.  There are .deb and .rpm packages.  The Apt Package Tool
>> uses .deb packages. Most Debian derived distros I'm familiar with use
>> apt.
>>
>> There is a RPM Package manager that uses .rpm files (surprise), but there
>> are frontends for it too. Fedora did use yum but now uses dnf. /usr/bin/
>> yum is a symlink to dnf.  OpenSUSE has zypper and a couple of other .rpm
>> based distros have their own package managers.
>
> 	PCLinuxOS has been using Synaptic with .rpm packages for a
> long time but it
> seems it will going to DNF which seems less capable than Synaptic from
> my very
> limited POV.
>
>>
>> Then there is Arch Linux and pacman. That's the odd one. Rather than dnf
>> update or apt update is pacman -Syu, with a similar syntax for installs.
>> There are ways, not recommended, to use .deb or .rpm packages in Arch. I'm
>> not that brave. Then there is the yay frontend to the Arch User Repository
>> (AUR) that's more like automating building a tarball.
>>
>> There's probably other schemes given the 100+ distros.
>
> 	Some distros are built around a completely different package
> manager or aspire

Portage says hi.

> to "immutability" which I find a dubious and slippery concept.
>
>>
>> You also missed the other big food fight, Wayland vs. x11.
>>
> 	It continues with a small group working on another x11 replacement.
> Wayland is supposed to support all of X11 functions but the demanding
> users know that it falls short in some areas.

Which group is this?

-- 
Nuno Silva

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