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| First post | 2025-11-29 11:18 +0000 |
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Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:18 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 20:25 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:59 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:30 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-30 14:45 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 21:46 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:24 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:54 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-11-30 13:04 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 18:13 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 19:20 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 19:53 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-01 00:10 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-11-30 20:57 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 01:34 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-01 03:40 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 04:50 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 10:28 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 05:57 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 11:31 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:47 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 11:06 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:42 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 22:40 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 13:05 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 22:44 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 23:27 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-07 23:53 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-07 12:51 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:08 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-07 14:37 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 01:13 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:49 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-08 13:55 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-08 12:32 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:23 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 03:30 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-09 04:12 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:29 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 21:01 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-09 14:23 -0800
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:15 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-09 20:44 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 02:24 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:56 +0000
Sopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:10 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-09 07:56 -0800
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:38 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 22:26 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:59 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 15:03 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:48 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 17:32 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 18:39 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 04:12 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 00:29 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:28 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 22:42 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:37 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 22:29 -0500
Invade America? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 13:49 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:12 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-10 22:32 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-10 21:26 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 01:51 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:02 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-10 23:00 -0600
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 01:28 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:35 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 14:07 -0800
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-12 21:11 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-12-12 10:33 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 13:58 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 13:54 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-13 21:14 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 20:40 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 18:42 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-13 21:16 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 19:46 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 23:52 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 09:17 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 22:02 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:32 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 00:49 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-15 05:18 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:36 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:27 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 21:14 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 10:58 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:44 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 21:10 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:23 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:38 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 21:22 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 23:31 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:10 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 23:40 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 03:35 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-10 03:30 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 23:09 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:03 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:37 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:09 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 21:43 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:17 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-11 18:39 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 23:34 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-12 21:37 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-09 21:27 -0800
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 01:42 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:16 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 07:03 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:05 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:11 +0000
Dog poo "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:51 +0100
Re: Dog poo knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-10 10:08 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:37 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:01 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:23 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:33 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 14:03 -0800
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:12 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 21:57 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-13 21:39 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-13 07:00 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 20:06 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 00:18 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:38 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:02 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 22:43 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 00:57 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:42 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-16 16:29 -0800
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:09 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 01:24 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 06:53 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 22:47 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 00:51 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 22:46 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 02:01 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-19 00:58 -0600
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 02:46 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 08:22 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-19 13:16 -0600
Underground fires "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:28 +0100
Re: Underground fires rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 04:48 +0000
Re: Underground fires "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 13:15 +0100
Re: Underground fires Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-20 12:14 -0500
Re: Underground fires "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 19:46 +0100
Re: Underground fires Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-20 16:42 -0500
Re: Underground fires "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 23:09 +0100
Re: Underground fires The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-21 02:11 +0000
Re: Underground fires rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 01:34 +0000
Burning things. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-26 22:42 +0100
Re: Underground fires c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-21 15:24 -0500
Re: Underground fires rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 23:10 +0000
Re: Underground fires Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-21 15:34 -0800
Re: Underground fires rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-22 06:47 +0000
Re: Underground fires c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-22 02:08 -0500
Re: Underground fires c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-22 01:53 -0500
Re: Underground fires Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-22 21:46 +1100
Re: Underground fires c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-22 07:35 -0500
Re: Underground fires Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-23 21:31 +1100
Re: Underground fires Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-23 06:40 -0500
Re: Underground fires The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 12:41 +0000
Re: Underground fires Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-23 21:18 +0000
Re: Underground fires Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-24 20:43 +1100
Re: Underground fires The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 13:12 +0000
Re: Underground fires Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-24 20:26 +1100
OT: Garbage disposal meets rocket science (was: Re: Underground fires) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 11:19 +0000
Re: Underground fires The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 13:04 +0000
Re: Underground fires c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 04:55 -0500
Re: Underground fires The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 13:13 +0000
Re: Underground fires Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-23 11:43 -0800
Re: Underground fires pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> - 2025-12-24 09:04 -0800
Re: Underground fires "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-27 12:37 +0100
Re: Underground fires c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-27 11:44 -0500
Toxics... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-26 22:47 +0100
Re: Underground fires Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-21 22:11 +1100
Re: Underground fires rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 20:34 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 02:12 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 22:48 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 09:16 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-12-15 01:05 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 04:22 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:27 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:17 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 22:01 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-15 21:52 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 20:27 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:36 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 19:53 +0000
Forests... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 22:45 +0100
Re: Forests... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:09 -0500
Re: Forests... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:24 +0000
Re: Forests... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 23:38 +0000
Re: Forests... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:48 +0000
Re: Forests... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 19:24 +0000
Re: Forests... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 18:59 +0000
Re: Forests... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-16 21:31 +1100
Re: Forests... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 19:15 +0000
Re: Forests... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 02:59 -0500
Re: Forests... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 19:28 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:13 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 22:22 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:17 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 05:00 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 22:14 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:35 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 18:21 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 17:51 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 20:39 +0000
Wood "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 19:50 +0100
Garbage bags "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:49 +0100
Re: Garbage bags knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-10 10:10 -0500
Re: Garbage bags The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:58 +0000
Re: Garbage bags rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:46 +0000
Re: Garbage bags The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:02 +0000
Re: Garbage bags rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:30 +0000
Re: Garbage bags Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-12 02:58 -0600
Re: Garbage bags "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:28 +0100
Re: Garbage bags The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:42 +0000
Trails, Dogshit and Plastic in Nature Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-11 13:51 +0000
Re: Trails, Dogshit and Plastic in Nature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 20:14 +0100
Re: Garbage bags rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 20:20 +0000
Re: Garbage bags "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 22:22 +0100
Re: Garbage bags The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:47 +0000
Re: Garbage bags rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:44 +0000
Re: Garbage bags c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 23:51 -0500
Re: Garbage bags The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:24 +0000
Re: Garbage bags rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:48 +0000
Re: Garbage bags Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 13:56 -0800
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:44 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-10 21:26 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:30 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:37 +0100
Dogshit and bags Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-11 14:05 +0000
Re: Dogshit and bags "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 20:16 +0100
Re: Dogshit and bags rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 20:08 +0000
Re: Dogshit and bags Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2025-12-12 09:09 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 19:46 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 22:27 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:08 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-14 22:23 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:19 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-16 23:13 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 14:29 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-10 22:21 +1100
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-10 22:14 +1100
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 06:40 -0500
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:53 +0000
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-12 21:57 +1100
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 18:50 +0000
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-14 22:34 +1100
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:27 +0000
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 02:50 -0500
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 20:44 +0000
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 22:07 +0100
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:15 +0000
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 22:49 +0100
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-19 04:27 -0500
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 15:41 +0100
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:55 +0100
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-12 22:06 +1100
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-12 21:48 +1100
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:47 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:45 +1100
Autoblock feature of shopping carts. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:14 +0100
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-07 15:04 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 01:10 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 04:41 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 23:57 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 05:49 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-08 01:29 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:29 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 09:03 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 22:23 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:03 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:13 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:14 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:21 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-10 03:25 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-08 01:58 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-08 03:13 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:14 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:52 +1100
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:15 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:44 +1100
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 21:56 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 00:04 +1100
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:46 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 01:41 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:46 +1100
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 21:06 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 22:12 +1100
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:42 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:38 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-01 22:19 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 11:33 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 21:25 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 21:48 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-02 02:51 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 06:05 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 04:57 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 16:09 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 23:03 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:00 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 23:21 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:49 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 11:12 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 21:14 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:24 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 22:13 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:32 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 23:14 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 21:36 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 22:52 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-07 00:07 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 23:41 -0500
Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:25 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:00 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:33 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:32 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:56 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:53 +0100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:31 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:24 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:53 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 22:43 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:11 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:48 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:18 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 19:33 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 00:20 +1100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:59 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 18:02 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:41 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 03:35 -0500
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:09 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:53 +1100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:08 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 22:18 +1100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:36 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-12 22:11 +1100
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:50 -0500
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:05 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 22:17 -0500
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:25 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 00:18 -0500
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:52 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:16 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:58 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-14 22:38 +1100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:42 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:49 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:45 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:28 -0500
GPS Based Speedometers Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-09 12:47 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-09 08:14 -0500
Re: GPS Based Speedometers The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:13 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:35 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:30 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:52 -0500
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 21:01 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:37 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-12-09 16:24 +0100
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:39 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-14 23:06 +1100
Re: GPS Based Speedometers "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:43 +0100
Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 19:09 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 00:12 -0500
Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 19:55 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:46 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 21:31 -0500
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:23 +0000
Re: Double booting Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-09 17:01 -0600
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:15 +0000
Cars, motors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:16 +0100
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-10 03:18 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:30 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 05:59 -0500
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:46 +0000
Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:11 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:28 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 03:42 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 21:49 -0800
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:09 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-15 23:19 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 18:26 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:19 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 15:27 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 17:49 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 20:48 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 15:40 -0800
Re: Cars, engines... CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-12-13 19:32 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 21:08 -0800
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 01:32 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 21:14 -0800
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 01:33 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:18 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-16 23:26 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 13:20 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 14:29 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-17 23:00 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:04 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 09:51 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 08:45 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:15 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:02 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 18:27 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-15 23:45 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:28 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-16 23:37 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-17 00:42 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:02 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-12-16 20:12 -0700
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 22:56 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 02:15 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 15:42 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 03:53 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 13:20 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-19 22:41 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-19 23:15 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-19 21:12 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 01:32 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 10:48 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-21 14:49 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-21 20:03 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-21 16:39 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-22 03:07 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-22 12:56 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-22 17:33 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:14 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 22:20 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 03:11 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 09:25 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 13:08 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 18:55 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 00:43 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-22 21:59 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:32 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 15:39 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 20:59 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-13 02:52 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 06:11 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-14 03:48 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 08:50 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:51 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 04:06 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 21:03 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 00:03 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:59 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-12-14 13:17 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 20:27 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 01:33 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:34 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:23 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 22:17 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 17:57 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 06:58 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-12 02:23 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-17 23:11 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-17 12:28 -0600
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 18:39 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:08 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-18 22:55 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> - 2025-12-18 06:01 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:29 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 17:31 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 17:50 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 00:13 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 06:18 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 02:08 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 19:44 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 23:46 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 09:12 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 20:29 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 17:54 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-15 23:01 +1100
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:24 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 07:44 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:48 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 23:02 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 06:52 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-12 02:19 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 08:14 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-12 22:35 -0500
Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 06:03 +0000
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:25 +0100
Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:23 +0100
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:50 +1100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:48 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:50 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 21:28 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 22:21 +1100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:56 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:32 +0000
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:46 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:47 -0500
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:39 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:08 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:57 +1100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:09 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:50 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:11 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:20 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:27 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 05:57 -0500
Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:20 +0100
Re: Wheels Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-11 18:51 +0000
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 20:21 +0100
Re: Wheels Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-11 19:40 +0000
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 22:29 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:23 +0000
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:44 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 19:12 +0000
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 23:55 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 01:36 +0000
Re: Wheels Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-17 23:51 +1100
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 23:07 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 03:24 +0000
Re: Wheels Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-19 00:55 -0600
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 15:46 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:09 +0000
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:42 +0100
Re: Wheels c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 03:56 -0500
Rubber "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 13:32 +0100
Re: Rubber Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-12-20 13:37 +0000
Re: Rubber rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 02:06 +0000
Re: Rubber Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-20 12:26 -0500
Re: Rubber Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-20 20:45 +0000
Re: Rubber rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 02:03 +0000
Re: Rubber Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-12-20 21:38 -0700
Re: Rubber candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-24 14:10 +0000
Re: Rubber Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-22 01:00 +0000
Re: Rubber rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 01:52 +0000
Re: Rubber "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 22:26 +0100
Re: Wheels Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-19 05:06 -0500
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 18:48 +0000
Re: Wheels Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-19 19:26 +0000
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:49 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:01 +0000
Re: Wheels Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-19 22:48 +1100
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 15:51 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 18:54 +0000
Re: Wheels c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 01:50 -0500
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 13:47 +0100
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 01:48 +0000
Re: Wheels rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 01:42 +0000
Re: Wheels c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 23:15 -0500
Re: Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:50 +0100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:20 +0100
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 00:22 -0500
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:22 +0100
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 23:20 -0500
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:42 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 01:48 -0500
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:54 +0100
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-18 00:14 +1100
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:06 -0500
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:54 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 22:23 +1100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:57 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:39 +0000
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:02 +0000
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 22:51 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 22:04 -0500
Re: Double booting John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 09:16 -0800
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:17 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-05 22:19 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 23:02 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-06 07:59 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-07 00:20 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 22:54 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 21:34 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-05 22:22 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 23:26 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:16 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:13 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 21:41 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 05:50 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 10:51 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:32 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:17 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 21:43 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:09 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 04:43 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 10:50 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:31 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:15 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 23:21 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 09:40 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 04:53 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 10:17 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 05:55 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-01 22:27 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:09 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-02 01:56 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 11:00 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:27 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 20:41 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:37 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:19 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:26 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 23:37 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 10:57 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 11:30 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:46 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:40 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 20:46 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 00:12 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:31 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 16:53 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 20:18 +0000
Shareholder primacy (was: Re: The "Standards" Game) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 00:10 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy (was: Re: The "Standards" Game) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 02:28 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:24 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 18:24 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 11:08 -0800
Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 23:18 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 03:55 -0500
Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-05 18:45 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 04:24 -0500
Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 11:55 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 23:48 -0500
Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 11:33 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 11:52 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 23:44 +1100
Re: Shareholder primacy Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 23:40 +1100
Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 21:38 -0500
Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:12 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:35 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:26 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 18:20 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 19:28 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy (was: Re: The "Standards" Game) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 08:06 -0800
Re: Shareholder primacy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-04 14:36 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-01 12:25 -0600
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-01 18:35 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 19:19 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 21:29 +0000
Re: Fighter Jets (The "Standards" Game) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-02 02:42 +0000
Re: Fighter Jets (The "Standards" Game) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 06:13 +0000
Re: Fighter Jets (The "Standards" Game) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-03 14:44 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 09:39 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 04:51 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-30 14:41 +0100
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-12 02:23 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <3p-cnSiRUa5KX6b0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #78875 |
On 12/12/25 01:58, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 03:42:57 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> I never drove an automatic car. > > She was around 70 when I had to convince my mother she could drive an > automatic. She'd only been driving since 1921 and had taught her father > how to drive. She adapted to AT, power brakes, and power steering nicely. > > My first car was an automatic but I eventually replaced the tired > Torqueflight with a manual. Easier said than done. My first 'car' was an old Ford pick-up ... three on the tree. The previous owner had tweaked the differential - you had to add about 10mph to whatever the speedometer said. Did get excellent mileage though.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-12-17 23:11 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <10hu6l8$3fd8v$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78875 |
On 12/12/2025 5:58 pm, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 03:42:57 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> I never drove an automatic car. > > She was around 70 when I had to convince my mother she could drive an > automatic. She'd only been driving since 1921 and had taught her father > how to drive. She adapted to AT, power brakes, and power steering nicely. > > My first car was an automatic but I eventually replaced the tired > Torqueflight with a manual. Easier said than done. > Having lost most of my right arm in a car accident(in a Manual car almost 50 years ago), I HAVE TO drive an Automatic. In the almost 50 years since that accident, I have only driven a Manual ONCE .... and the Car's owner was sitting in the Passenger seat to move the gear stick when required. -- Daniel70
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| From | Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-17 12:28 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <qdt5kkh3kurv4lmtsdh3pc390fto7bu5p5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #79373 |
On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 23:11:17 +1100, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >Having lost most of my right arm in a car accident(in a Manual car >almost 50 years ago), I HAVE TO drive an Automatic. > >In the almost 50 years since that accident, I have only driven a Manual >ONCE .... and the Car's owner was sitting in the Passenger seat to move >the gear stick when required. Many years ago when I broke my right arm, I continued to drive my vehicle with a 5-speed manual by reaching across with my left arm. It wasn't a problem and I assume you could do the same if you had to.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-17 18:39 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <mqgbnoFng8U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #79388 |
On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 12:28:56 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 23:11:17 +1100, Daniel70 > <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >>Having lost most of my right arm in a car accident(in a Manual car >>almost 50 years ago), I HAVE TO drive an Automatic. >> >>In the almost 50 years since that accident, I have only driven a Manual >>ONCE .... and the Car's owner was sitting in the Passenger seat to move >>the gear stick when required. > > Many years ago when I broke my right arm, I continued to drive my > vehicle with a 5-speed manual by reaching across with my left arm. It > wasn't a problem and I assume you could do the same if you had to. You do what you need to do. When my left leg was in a cast I used a piece of PVC pipe and my left hand to run the clutch. It wasn't optimal but I managed.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-17 22:08 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <fsidnR7SK9WP7d70nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #79388 |
On 12/17/25 13:28, Char Jackson wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 23:11:17 +1100, Daniel70 > <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >> Having lost most of my right arm in a car accident(in a Manual car >> almost 50 years ago), I HAVE TO drive an Automatic. >> >> In the almost 50 years since that accident, I have only driven a Manual >> ONCE .... and the Car's owner was sitting in the Passenger seat to move >> the gear stick when required. > > Many years ago when I broke my right arm, I continued to drive my > vehicle with a 5-speed manual by reaching across with my left arm. It > wasn't a problem and I assume you could do the same if you had to. He probably COULD ... but it'd be clunky. A better task for a young guy.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-12-18 22:55 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <10i0q31$924k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79411 |
On 18/12/2025 2:08 pm, c186282 wrote: > On 12/17/25 13:28, Char Jackson wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 23:11:17 +1100, Daniel70 >> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >> >>> Having lost most of my right arm in a car accident(in a Manual car >>> almost 50 years ago), I HAVE TO drive an Automatic. >>> >>> In the almost 50 years since that accident, I have only driven a Manual >>> ONCE .... and the Car's owner was sitting in the Passenger seat to move >>> the gear stick when required. >> >> Many years ago when I broke my right arm, I continued to drive my >> vehicle with a 5-speed manual by reaching across with my left arm. It >> wasn't a problem and I assume you could do the same if you had to. > > He probably COULD ... but it'd be clunky. A better > task for a young guy. > Does 21yo count as a 'young guy'?? ;-) -- Daniel70
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| From | pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> |
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| Date | 2025-12-18 06:01 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <10i05ba$3cb1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #79388 |
On 2025-12-17, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 23:11:17 +1100, Daniel70 ><daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >>Having lost most of my right arm in a car accident(in a Manual car >>almost 50 years ago), I HAVE TO drive an Automatic. >> >>In the almost 50 years since that accident, I have only driven a Manual >>ONCE .... and the Car's owner was sitting in the Passenger seat to move >>the gear stick when required. > > Many years ago when I broke my right arm, I continued to drive my > vehicle with a 5-speed manual by reaching across with my left arm. It > wasn't a problem and I assume you could do the same if you had to. > I did the same, only a four speed, though. pH
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-12 11:29 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <10hgubc$2r3rh$12@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78839 |
On 11/12/2025 21:28, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had with >> hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe 1984. I >> remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the brakes were >> brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped brutally. Vacuum >> servo-assist. > > I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission cars > used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for braking with > your left foot. Brutal was when your manual transmission muscle memory > kicked in, you attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got the brake > instead. > I am running on a manual courtesy car at the moment and the pedals are so closely spaced I tend to hit all three at once. -- "When one man dies it's a tragedy. When thousands die it's statistics." Josef Stalin
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-12 17:31 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <mq31rlFo83gU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78909 |
On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 11:29:48 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 11/12/2025 21:28, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had >>> with hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe >>> 1984. I remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the >>> brakes were brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped >>> brutally. Vacuum servo-assist. >> >> I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission >> cars used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for >> braking with your left foot. Brutal was when your manual transmission >> muscle memory kicked in, you attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got >> the brake instead. >> > I am running on a manual courtesy car at the moment and the pedals are > so closely spaced I tend to hit all three at once. Handy for heel and toe shifting... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel-and-toe_shifting
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 17:50 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <10hphoo$22juh$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78938 |
On 12/12/2025 17:31, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 11:29:48 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 11/12/2025 21:28, rbowman wrote: >>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>>> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had >>>> with hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe >>>> 1984. I remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the >>>> brakes were brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped >>>> brutally. Vacuum servo-assist. >>> >>> I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission >>> cars used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for >>> braking with your left foot. Brutal was when your manual transmission >>> muscle memory kicked in, you attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got >>> the brake instead. >>> >> I am running on a manual courtesy car at the moment and the pedals are >> so closely spaced I tend to hit all three at once. > > Handy for heel and toe shifting... > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel-and-toe_shifting > I used to do that but nodern boxes are so good it isnt really necessary. > -- "A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight and understanding". Marshall McLuhan
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 00:13 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <Gp2cnVAsbIORa6H0nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #78909 |
On 12/12/25 06:29, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 11/12/2025 21:28, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had with >>> hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe 1984. I >>> remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the brakes were >>> brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped brutally. Vacuum >>> servo-assist. >> >> I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission cars >> used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for braking with >> your left foot. Brutal was when your manual transmission muscle memory >> kicked in, you attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got the brake >> instead. >> > I am running on a manual courtesy car at the moment and the pedals are > so closely spaced I tend to hit all three at once. Old MG Midget ? :-) A girl next door had one ... she always drove it with her shoes off so she could FEEL the pedals properly. Road devil, you didn't want to ride with her. Or behind her. Or beside her. Or same road ... :-) Hmm ... an outfit I knew had a mid 50s International Harvester pickup. You'd like that. Ridiculously over-built, massive frame. 4-speed, shiftable differential, v8, 4wd. They'd rigged it as a tow truck. With the diff in low and 1st gear speed was about 10mph at full throttle. Once they tried to pull a tractor out of a muddy ditch - it broke the tractor in half ... they had photos. The pedals were NOT too close to each other. They did eventually sell it ... couldn't get parts any more alas ......
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 06:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <mq4epoFncdU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78962 |
On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 00:13:48 -0500, c186282 wrote: > Old MG Midget ? > > A girl next door had one ... she always drove it with her shoes off > so she could FEEL the pedals properly. > > Road devil, you didn't want to ride with her. Or behind her. Or > beside her. Or same road ... I had a Sprite, the AH version of the Midget. While giving my brother in law a ride one evening he asked 'how does this little piece of shit handle?' I did a 180 and motored off in the opposite direction. "Oh" His father had a thing for Checkers and he destroyed a couple of them. Couldn't drive for shit. He managed to roll one outside of Mayfield KY in '69 when we were supposedly headed for Mexico. High times in Mayfield! Everyone in town went down to the garage to ogle the big, silver wreck. "Is that one of them that Mercedes Benzs?"
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 02:08 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <Gp2cnU0sbIN2jaD0nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #78965 |
On 12/13/25 01:18, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 00:13:48 -0500, c186282 wrote: > >> Old MG Midget ? >> >> A girl next door had one ... she always drove it with her shoes off >> so she could FEEL the pedals properly. >> >> Road devil, you didn't want to ride with her. Or behind her. Or >> beside her. Or same road ... > > I had a Sprite, the AH version of the Midget. While giving my brother in > law a ride one evening he asked 'how does this little piece of shit > handle?' I did a 180 and motored off in the opposite direction. "Oh" > > His father had a thing for Checkers and he destroyed a couple of them. > Couldn't drive for shit. He managed to roll one outside of Mayfield KY in > '69 when we were supposedly headed for Mexico. High times in Mayfield! > Everyone in town went down to the garage to ogle the big, silver wreck. > "Is that one of them that Mercedes Benzs?" Checkers were very decent vehicles - and intended to stand up to urban taxi service uses. Huge 6 cyl towards the end as I remember. Early dedicated taxis had as little as 18hp ... saw that somewhere. There are a few old vehicles I wish they'd reproduce, as closely as possible, not just a bolt-on body. The classic Checker is one of those, Model-A town cars are another. People WOULD buy them. I do like the old 'swoopy' look with the running boards .....
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 19:44 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <mq5u1aF85feU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #78968 |
On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 02:08:27 -0500, c186282 wrote: > Checkers were very decent vehicles - and intended to stand up to > urban taxi service uses. Huge 6 cyl towards the end as I remember. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checker_Marathon The Marathons were the civilian version but the taxi models were the same. The one he had when we were in high school must have had the Continental engine. The two after that had Chevrolet engines. I know the silver one had a 283. Checker made the bodies but the engines and running gear were a crap shoot. I was amused when some of the movies that wanted to show a seen in Translovakia of some other fictional eastern European country would use Checkers as a car not too many people outside of Chicago or NYC would recognize without taxicab livery. My father in law was a rather strange person and the Checkers were just the tip of the iceberg. It would like someone buying one of those strange looking British hackneys. I did have another friend whose father bought a Humber Super Snipe for obscure reasons.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-13 23:46 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <CvudnT5N8fiP3KP0nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #79022 |
On 12/13/25 14:44, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 02:08:27 -0500, c186282 wrote: > >> Checkers were very decent vehicles - and intended to stand up to >> urban taxi service uses. Huge 6 cyl towards the end as I remember. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checker_Marathon > > The Marathons were the civilian version but the taxi models were the same. > The one he had when we were in high school must have had the Continental > engine. The two after that had Chevrolet engines. I know the silver one > had a 283. Checker made the bodies but the engines and running gear were a > crap shoot. > > I was amused when some of the movies that wanted to show a seen in > Translovakia of some other fictional eastern European country would use > Checkers as a car not too many people outside of Chicago or NYC would > recognize without taxicab livery. > > My father in law was a rather strange person and the Checkers were just > the tip of the iceberg. It would like someone buying one of those strange > looking British hackneys. I did have another friend whose father bought a > Humber Super Snipe for obscure reasons. Well, tastes vary and people fall in love with whatever they fall in love with. Vehicles ... I still like the swoopy late-20s/30s look with the sculpted body and running boards. The Packards were probably the USA ultimate. NOT easy to find anymore alas ... much less the parts issue ........ STILL waiting to see some corp that will use 3-D printing to make covers/gears/bearings/etc on demand for even antique vehicles. So long as they have the shape/specs ....... Checkers ... I think at SOME point they actually made their own engines. Maybe unaffordable. In any case I admire vehicles meant to stand rough service. Those have become fewer and fewer over the years. Forget Jeep - they're CRAP now - and the Brit products suffer a similarly derated value too. Gimme something you can drive across country, hit a tree stump, then back up and hit the damned thing again to get it out of your way. Once saw someone selling a US Mil "Deuce-and-a-Half" in their yard. Now wish I'd bought it :-)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-12-14 09:12 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <mq7dbfFfrklU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #79049 |
On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 23:46:09 -0500, c186282 wrote: > Checkers ... I think at SOME point they actually made their own > engines. https://www.makesthatdidntmakeit.com/checker I think they used Buda engines prior to the deal with Cord and the switch to Lycomings. Then they went to Continentals until the switch to GM engines in the early '60s. There was a good deal of specialization. Even in the '50 and '60s if you looked at the sill of a Chevrolet there was a little tag that said 'Body by Fisher'. Fisher built bodies for other companies too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Allant%C3%A9 For its time it was a sharp looking ride that you would never guess was a Cadillac. If you find one with a good body, ditch the Northstar engine, and you'll have a good car.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-14 20:29 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <9qf31mxp18.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #78962 |
On 2025-12-13 06:13, c186282 wrote: > On 12/12/25 06:29, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 11/12/2025 21:28, rbowman wrote: >>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>>> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had with >>>> hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe 1984. I >>>> remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the brakes were >>>> brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped brutally. Vacuum >>>> servo-assist. >>> >>> I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission cars >>> used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for braking >>> with >>> your left foot. Brutal was when your manual transmission muscle memory >>> kicked in, you attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got the brake >>> instead. >>> >> I am running on a manual courtesy car at the moment and the pedals are >> so closely spaced I tend to hit all three at once. > > > Old MG Midget ? :-) > > A girl next door had one ... she always drove it > with her shoes off so she could FEEL the pedals > properly. > > Road devil, you didn't want to ride with her. Or > behind her. Or beside her. Or same road ... :-) > > Hmm ... an outfit I knew had a mid 50s International > Harvester pickup. You'd like that. Ridiculously > over-built, massive frame. 4-speed, shiftable > differential, v8, 4wd. They'd rigged it as a tow truck. > With the diff in low and 1st gear speed was about > 10mph at full throttle. Once they tried to pull a > tractor out of a muddy ditch - it broke the tractor > in half ... they had photos. The pedals were NOT > too close to each other. I have seen photos of such a breakage, dunno if actually the same one. > > They did eventually sell it ... couldn't get parts > any more alas ...... > -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 17:54 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <10hpi1f$22juh$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78962 |
On 13/12/2025 05:13, c186282 wrote: > On 12/12/25 06:29, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 11/12/2025 21:28, rbowman wrote: >>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>>> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had with >>>> hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe 1984. I >>>> remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the brakes were >>>> brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped brutally. Vacuum >>>> servo-assist. >>> >>> I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission cars >>> used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for braking >>> with >>> your left foot. Brutal was when your manual transmission muscle memory >>> kicked in, you attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got the brake >>> instead. >>> >> I am running on a manual courtesy car at the moment and the pedals are >> so closely spaced I tend to hit all three at once. > > > Old MG Midget ? :-) > I had lots of those back in the day. Huge fun > A girl next door had one ... she always drove it > with her shoes off so she could FEEL the pedals > properly. > I often did too. > Road devil, you didn't want to ride with her. Or > behind her. Or beside her. Or same road ... :-) > -- For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. H.L.Mencken
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 23:01 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <10hotb3$1sapb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #78839 |
On 12/12/2025 8:28 am, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had >> with hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe >> 1984. I remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the >> brakes were brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped >> brutally. Vacuum servo-assist. > > I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission > cars used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for > braking with your left foot. Naughty! Naughty!! ;-P > Brutal was when your manual transmission muscle memory kicked in, you > attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got the brake instead. > -- Daniel70
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-12-15 22:24 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Message-ID | <mnudnVxr3LZGTd30nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #79151 |
On 12/15/25 07:01, Daniel70 wrote: > On 12/12/2025 8:28 am, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we had >>> with hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe >>> 1984. I remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the >>> brakes were brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped >>> brutally. Vacuum servo-assist. >> >> I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic transmission >> cars used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for >> braking with your left foot. > > Naughty! Naughty!! ;-P > >> Brutal was when your manual transmission muscle memory kicked in, you >> attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got the brake instead. "Brutal" is mis-shifting a big old truck with a non-sync transmission :-)
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