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Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?

Started byAnssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi>
First post2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
Last post2025-10-12 12:10 +0100
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  Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-07 14:39 +0100
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-07 22:52 +0000
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-08 01:35 -0400
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-08 10:53 +0200
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-08 21:06 +0000
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:25 +0200
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:45 +0000
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:41 -0400
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 09:21 +0200
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 13:21 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:15 +0200
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:53 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:46 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:38 -0400
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 02:09 -0400
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-09 18:52 +0000
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:33 -0400
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-11 15:10 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 17:48 +0000
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:01 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:08 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:32 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:29 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-12 11:07 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-13 09:06 -0700
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-18 16:24 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-18 21:02 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-19 01:36 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:39 +0200
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-20 02:10 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:36 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:33 -0400
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:31 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:21 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-19 12:17 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:22 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:28 -0400
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:19 +0100
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-20 09:20 -0700
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-25 12:49 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 16:45 +0100
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:51 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 08:42 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 09:11 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 10:06 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:25 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:48 +0100
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:29 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:44 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 00:57 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 07:14 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:05 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 02:00 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:02 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:03 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 21:19 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:50 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 14:52 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:06 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 20:29 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:22 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:17 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:09 +0100
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:23 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:47 +0100
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:27 +0000
                                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
                                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:05 +0000
                                              Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:46 +0100
                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:47 +0000
                                                  Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 20:21 +0000
                                                    Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:46 +0100
                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:07 +0000
                                                      Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 22:15 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-10-30 17:29 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 17:31 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 19:31 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:11 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:10 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:35 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-30 21:40 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 15:18 -0700
                                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:17 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:46 -0700
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:25 +0000
                                                                      LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:38 +0100
                                                                        Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 20:50 -0400
                                                                          Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:41 +0100
                                                                          Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:57 +0000
                                                                            Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 00:12 +0000
                                                                              Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:38 +0100
                                                                                Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 00:19 -0500
                                                                                  Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 07:03 +0000
                                                                                    Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 14:20 -0500
                                                                                      Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:02 +0000
                                                                                        Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:42 +0000
                                                                                          Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:31 -0500
                                                                                Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:16 +0000
                                                                        Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:51 +0000
                                                                          Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:48 +0100
                                                                            Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:42 +0000
                                                                              Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:33 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:21 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:59 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:41 +0100
                                                                  Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 08:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:53 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-31 19:02 -0700
                                                                      Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 02:52 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:32 +0000
                                                                          Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:19 +0000
                                                                            TV tropes (was: Re: Accents.) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:01 +0000
                                                                              Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 13:10 +0100
                                                                                Re: TV tropes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 21:28 +0100
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:10 +0000
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:14 +0100
                                                                              Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:09 +0000
                                                                                Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 07:41 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-21 09:00 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 09:13 +0000
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:17 +0100
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 19:28 +0000
                                                                                      Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:43 +0100
                                                                                        Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 23:00 +0000
                                                                                        Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-22 04:06 +0000
                                                                        Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:24 +0100
                                                                          Re: Not Blade Runner Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:57 +0000
                                                                    Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:22 +0100
                                                                      Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:22 +0000
                                                                        Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:50 +0100
                                                                          Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:20 +0000
                                                                            Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:34 +0100
                                                                              Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:47 +0000
                                                                                Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:05 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Blade runner c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 15:40 -0500
                                                                                      Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 22:30 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 17:48 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Flashlights Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-11-03 20:26 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-04 04:55 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:35 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-05 03:44 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 01:05 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:20 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:08 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:33 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:37 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:26 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 11:56 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:42 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:30 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-11-07 16:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-07 18:11 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-07 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 22:42 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-07 21:08 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-08 13:31 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-08 16:05 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-08 20:06 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 00:04 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-09 20:08 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:41 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:07 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2025-11-09 19:05 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:58 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:12 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 05:09 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 01:31 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:39 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 07:51 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:19 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:16 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:39 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 22:54 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:52 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:32 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 06:49 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-22 03:14 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 11:32 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 22:00 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 02:35 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:40 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 20:15 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 01:42 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:09 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:17 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:19 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 21:58 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-24 20:28 +0100
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                                                                                                                    Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 07:59 +0100
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                                                                                                                            Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-25 18:58 +0000
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                                                                                                                                      City fauna "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-26 11:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: City fauna rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-26 20:40 +0000
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                                                                                                                                      Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-26 20:15 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                          Punt guns. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:03 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                      Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Punt guns "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:06 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Punt guns Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-29 08:58 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Punt guns c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Punt guns c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 01:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 19:19 +0000
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                                                                                                                                              Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 08:58 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                  Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 01:55 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                    Bears "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bears c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 00:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Chemical photography c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:12 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Repopulating bears, wolves... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 14:10 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-29 08:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:49 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 03:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 23:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Repopulating bears, wolves... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 18:32 +0000
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                                                                                                                                      Re: Chemical photography rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-27 19:07 +0000
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                                                                                              Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:28 +0100
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                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:27 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 19:37 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:12 -0500
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                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-04 20:52 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:23 -0500
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                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:05 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:21 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:54 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:20 +0000
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                                                                                                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:17 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-05 11:54 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:41 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:16 -0500
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                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:24 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 02:44 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 21:53 -0500
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                                                                                    Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 23:14 +0100
                                                                    Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:01 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:19 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:33 +0000
                                                                    Blade runner. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:29 +0100
                                                                      Re: Blade runner. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:56 +0000
                                                                        Re: Blade runner. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:38 -0400
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                                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:48 +0000
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                                                                  Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:22 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:33 +0100
                                                          Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:20 +0000
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                                                              Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:51 +0000
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                                                                  Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 15:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:39 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:44 +0100
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                                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:10 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:49 +0000
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                                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 18:48 +0000
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                                                                                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:28 +0000
                                                                              Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:11 +0100
                                                                                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 12:26 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 09:17 -0800
                                                                    Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:42 +0100
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:01 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:33 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:43 -0700
                                                                          Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
                                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:47 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:48 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:58 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:25 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:09 +0100
                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:50 -0700
                                                              Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:28 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:27 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:41 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:36 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:11 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:59 +0000
                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:54 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-28 09:34 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-26 13:53 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-26 15:40 +0100
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:11 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:03 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
                                          OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
                                            Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
                                              Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
                                            Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:18 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:34 -0700
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:26 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 03:36 -0400
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:31 +0000
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 01:33 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:52 +0200
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:48 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-12 02:43 +0200
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:12 +0100
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:02 -0400
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 06:39 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-12 02:59 -0400
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:20 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-13 16:50 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 18:38 +0100
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:38 -0400
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:45 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:17 +0100
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 03:28 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:41 -0400
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:20 +0100
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-13 11:55 +0200
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 21:56 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 00:35 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:21 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 06:56 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 17:20 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:01 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 05:36 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:33 -0400
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:18 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:24 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:31 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 09:00 -0700
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:24 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 15:11 -0700
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:27 -0400
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:22 +0000
                                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:24 -0400
                                                Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:08 +0200
                                                  Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:15 -0400
                                                    Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:46 +0200
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-16 04:36 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 10:29 -0700
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:49 -0400
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 15:43 -0700
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-14 21:30 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-14 22:11 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:10 +0100

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#78166 — Re: Chemical photography

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2025-12-01 21:50 +0000
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<slrn10is316.24lu5.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#77984
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote at 03:36 this Friday (GMT):
> On 11/27/25 14:03, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 23:40:16 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>> 
>>>     Um ... would still tend to buy either a microcontroller OR a CPU.
>>>     Don't like weird un-optimised mixes.
>>>
>>>     There was an earlier Ard with a (Linux-capable?) CPU spliced on.
>>>     Didn't buy those either.
>> 
>> Yeah, Arduino had aspirations to the industrial controller market. Those
>> were rather expensive as opposed to the $44 consumer friendly version.
>> It's interesting it uses a ST Micro MCU. ST is very popular for commercial
>> embedded development and has its own IDE. I think part of the reason it
>> hasn't caught on with hobbyists is the selection process.  You buy a Pico,
>> you get a Pico. You buy a ST you spend half a day trying to figure out the
>> part number for what you need.
>> 
>
>    You can go nuts trying to find THE Perfect Thing.
>
>    Better to embrace the KISS principle and pick
>    something Good Enough, something you can lightly
>    hammer into what you need.
>
>    Pico's are KISS ... an omni-tool that can be
>    easily bent to fit a huge variety of needs -
>    AND inexpensive.

Hopefully not literally hammered :)
Anyways, I agree with KISS

>    Hmmm ... had one boss who didn't want Linux around
>    because it was FREE - equated Expensive with Better
>    and, of course, expensive let him pad the dept budget.


The type who do that always annoy me, since thats how we end up dealing
with buggy as hell software nobody can fix because the company doesn't
care and also refuse to let the end user anywhere near the internals...
-- 
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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#77911 — Re: Chemical photography

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-11-25 20:31 +0100
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<epchvlxmkq.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#77908
On 2025-11-25 19:58, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 10:14:52 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> 
>> 	I think i considered buying something similar but since I had no
> money
>> for the temperature controlled tanks that were required I gave up the
>> idea.
> 
> I made it as far as a kit I had when I was a kid, probably produced by
> Kodak. It was a plastic container where you loaded the film in the dark,
> screwed the top on, and then poured the various chemicals in and out. It
> might get you a visit from CPS these days letting a kid play with
> chemicals unsupervised.
> 
> My most recent brush with photography was several minutes ago as I
> reviewed the photos on the game camera to find who was messing with the
> cats' heated water bowl. I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I wish
> he would stop washing his filthy paws in the water.

:-D

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#77919 — Re: Chemical photography

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-25 22:00 -0500
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<xGSdnQJMXIDG8Lv0nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77908
On 11/25/25 13:58, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 10:14:52 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> 
>> 	I think i considered buying something similar but since I had no
> money
>> for the temperature controlled tanks that were required I gave up the
>> idea.
> 
> I made it as far as a kit I had when I was a kid, probably produced by
> Kodak. It was a plastic container where you loaded the film in the dark,
> screwed the top on, and then poured the various chemicals in and out. It
> might get you a visit from CPS these days letting a kid play with
> chemicals unsupervised.
> 
> My most recent brush with photography was several minutes ago as I
> reviewed the photos on the game camera to find who was messing with the
> cats' heated water bowl. I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I wish
> he would stop washing his filthy paws in the water.

   Well ... furnace igniter, some spark-plug wire, a
   button and ...  :-)

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#77921 — Re: Chemical photography

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-26 05:08 +0000
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<mong9gFe6asU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77919
On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 22:00:43 -0500, c186282 wrote:

> On 11/25/25 13:58, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Nov 2025 10:14:52 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>> 
>>> 	I think i considered buying something similar but since I had no
>> money
>>> for the temperature controlled tanks that were required I gave up the
>>> idea.
>> 
>> I made it as far as a kit I had when I was a kid, probably produced by
>> Kodak. It was a plastic container where you loaded the film in the
>> dark, screwed the top on, and then poured the various chemicals in and
>> out. It might get you a visit from CPS these days letting a kid play
>> with chemicals unsupervised.
>> 
>> My most recent brush with photography was several minutes ago as I
>> reviewed the photos on the game camera to find who was messing with the
>> cats' heated water bowl. I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I
>> wish he would stop washing his filthy paws in the water.
> 
>    Well ... furnace igniter, some spark-plug wire, a button and ...  :-)

The project would escalate since the coon tends to show up a 4 AM. I'd 
wind up using PyTorch to create a model to differentiate raccoons from 
cats since random cats also show up otherwise I could use a PIR sensor. 
I've got a bunch of those. I might have to throw some skunk images into 
the training set too. Zapping a skunk might not be the best idea.

The kibble feeder depredations make enough noise to wake me up so I can go 
out and shoot his furry ass with a pellet gun. That's become more 
difficult. He used to stand there and say "What the hell do you want?" but 
now he exits rapidly.

They're cute and all but they're destructive little bastards.

 

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#77929 — Re: Chemical photography

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-11-26 13:40 +0000
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<10g700c$d216$16@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77921
On 26/11/2025 05:08, rbowman wrote:
> They're cute and all but they're destructive little bastards.

Ah,. Like female models....
-- 
Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early 
twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a 
globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, 
on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer 
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to 
contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

Richard Lindzen

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#77927 — Re: Chemical photography

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-11-26 13:37 +0000
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<10g6vqr$d216$14@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77908
On 25/11/2025 18:58, rbowman wrote:
> I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I wish
> he would stop washing his filthy paws in the water.

Raccoons are becoming domestic pets

-- 
You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a 
kind word alone.

Al Capone


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#77936 — Re: Chemical photography

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-26 21:02 +0000
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<mop879FnfncU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77927
On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 13:37:31 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 25/11/2025 18:58, rbowman wrote:
>> I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I wish he would stop washing
>> his filthy paws in the water.
> 
> Raccoons are becoming domestic pets

I definitely don't need a trash panda as a pet. The semi-feral cats are 
bad enough. The old, arthritic Persian does have house privileges but she 
is more like a taxidermy exhibit that moves around sometimes. 

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#77938 — Re: Chemical photography

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2025-11-26 13:29 -0800
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<10g7rg0$pt8q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77936

On 11/26/25 13:02, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 13:37:31 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 25/11/2025 18:58, rbowman wrote:
>>> I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I wish he would stop washing
>>> his filthy paws in the water.
>>
>> Raccoons are becoming domestic pets
> 
> I definitely don't need a trash panda as a pet. The semi-feral cats are
> bad enough. The old, arthritic Persian does have house privileges but she
> is more like a taxidermy exhibit that moves around sometimes.

	I think they have been used semi-domesticated as pets by people who
are rich enough to pay for the damage their "pet" may inflict.  Raccoons are
possibly capable of  domestication thru the same method as foxes have
been turned into expensive pets.  That is to say by selective breeding over
a relatively few generations for the proper behavioral traits.  These will
be like dogs which is the domesticated version of wolves.  Thus the wild
versions of foxes or raccons will not be the same "race" as the 
domesticated.
Likely they will be capable of interbreeding with the wild but they will
have different markings and so forth.

	Domesticated animals can have colors and so forth that might not
contribute to the survival of animals but which fanciers of the exotic
pets will select for in breeding as we see in dogs or cats.

	bliss

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#77940 — Re: Chemical photography

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-27 01:57 +0000
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<mopph3Fpv6rU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77938
On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 13:29:36 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

> 	Domesticated animals can have colors and so forth that might not
> contribute to the survival of animals but which fanciers of the exotic
> pets will select for in breeding as we see in dogs or cats.

A couple of years ago a Manx cat showed up. The cat had problems but 
seemed happy until a well meaning neighbor took her to the vets. That was 
the one way trip I thought it would be. 

Breeding them is controversial since a variety of problems go along with 
the mutation and many kittens die or are put down at birth. 

I assume the Manx was a case of taking Fluffy out to the country, kicking 
them out of the car, and wishing them good luck. 

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#77943 — Re: Chemical photography

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-26 23:13 -0500
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<6k2dnWA3EPFEUrr0nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77938
On 11/26/25 16:29, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/26/25 13:02, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 13:37:31 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/11/2025 18:58, rbowman wrote:
>>>> I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I wish he would stop washing
>>>> his filthy paws in the water.
>>>
>>> Raccoons are becoming domestic pets
>>
>> I definitely don't need a trash panda as a pet. The semi-feral cats are
>> bad enough. The old, arthritic Persian does have house privileges but she
>> is more like a taxidermy exhibit that moves around sometimes.
> 
>      I think they have been used semi-domesticated as pets by people who
> are rich enough to pay for the damage their "pet" may inflict.  Raccoons 
> are
> possibly capable of  domestication thru the same method as foxes have
> been turned into expensive pets.  That is to say by selective breeding over
> a relatively few generations for the proper behavioral traits.  These will
> be like dogs which is the domesticated version of wolves.  Thus the wild
> versions of foxes or raccons will not be the same "race" as the 
> domesticated.
> Likely they will be capable of interbreeding with the wild but they will
> have different markings and so forth.
> 
>      Domesticated animals can have colors and so forth that might not
> contribute to the survival of animals but which fanciers of the exotic
> pets will select for in breeding as we see in dogs or cats.

   Like in those movies, raccoons would probably be
   a good starting-point for IQ-enhancement genetic
   technology. Then there are apes ... but DO use
   bonobos and orangs instead of chimps. Some octopi
   could be good investments. Dolphins/orcas ... sorry,
   no hands = no future alas. We DO know the most
   critical genes/repeats required for better brains
   these days, so.

   Bet someone, probably in China, is doing this
   already. They're not so squeamish about 'mistakes'
   there ... into the incinerator, try again .....

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#77951 — Re: Chemical photography

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-11-27 11:47 +0000
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<10g9doq$1bagg$10@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77943
On 27/11/2025 04:13, c186282 wrote:
> Like in those movies, raccoons would probably be
>    a good starting-point for IQ-enhancement genetic
>    technology. Then there are apes ... but DO use
>    bonobos and orangs instead of chimps. Some octopi
>    could be good investments. Dolphins/orcas ... sorry,
>    no hands = no future alas. We DO know the most
>    critical genes/repeats required for better brains
>    these days, so.
> 
Giant killer Death Rrabbits strapped with explosives, fed on crystal 
meth  and trained to home in onto the smell of cheap alcohol would be a 
game changer in Ukraine...

>    Bet someone, probably in China, is doing this
>    already. They're not so squeamish about 'mistakes'
>    there ... into the incinerator, try again .....

-- 
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and 
wrong.

H.L.Mencken

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#77981 — Re: Chemical photography

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-27 22:09 -0500
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<3b6dnY3NbK7wj7T0nZ2dnZfqnPoAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#77951
On 11/27/25 06:47, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 27/11/2025 04:13, c186282 wrote:
>> Like in those movies, raccoons would probably be
>>    a good starting-point for IQ-enhancement genetic
>>    technology. Then there are apes ... but DO use
>>    bonobos and orangs instead of chimps. Some octopi
>>    could be good investments. Dolphins/orcas ... sorry,
>>    no hands = no future alas. We DO know the most
>>    critical genes/repeats required for better brains
>>    these days, so.
>>
> Giant killer Death Rrabbits strapped with explosives, fed on crystal 
> meth  and trained to home in onto the smell of cheap alcohol would be a 
> game changer in Ukraine...

   Wow ... that'd make a GREAT 'B' movie ! Copyright
   immediately and sell it to Hollywood !  :-)

   "Rabbinators" ?

>>    Bet someone, probably in China, is doing this
>>    already. They're not so squeamish about 'mistakes'
>>    there ... into the incinerator, try again .....

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#77950 — Re: Chemical photography

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-11-27 11:45 +0000
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<10g9dk4$1bagg$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77938
On 26/11/2025 21:29, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/26/25 13:02, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 13:37:31 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/11/2025 18:58, rbowman wrote:
>>>> I don't begrudge the raccoon the water but I wish he would stop washing
>>>> his filthy paws in the water.
>>>
>>> Raccoons are becoming domestic pets
>>
>> I definitely don't need a trash panda as a pet. The semi-feral cats are
>> bad enough. The old, arthritic Persian does have house privileges but she
>> is more like a taxidermy exhibit that moves around sometimes.
> 
>      I think they have been used semi-domesticated as pets by people who
> are rich enough to pay for the damage their "pet" may inflict.  Raccoons 
> are
> possibly capable of  domestication thru the same method as foxes have
> been turned into expensive pets.  That is to say by selective breeding over
> a relatively few generations for the proper behavioral traits.  These will
> be like dogs which is the domesticated version of wolves.  Thus the wild
> versions of foxes or raccons will not be the same "race" as the 
> domesticated.
> Likely they will be capable of interbreeding with the wild but they will
> have different markings and so forth.
> 
>      Domesticated animals can have colors and so forth that might not
> contribute to the survival of animals but which fanciers of the exotic
> pets will select for in breeding as we see in dogs or cats.
> 
>      bliss

I think that is more or less the true state of affairs

Several species are getting accustomed to and relying on humanity - 
raccoons, squirrels, various species of birds...even some bears...they 
all realise that humans are well fed and don't want to eat them any more.

-- 
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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#77971 — Re: Chemical photography

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-27 19:37 +0000
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<mornjpF5it2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77950
On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 11:45:08 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Several species are getting accustomed to and relying on humanity -
> raccoons, squirrels, various species of birds...even some bears...they
> all realise that humans are well fed and don't want to eat them any
> more.

Some areas in the city have bear-proof trash containers and advise people 
to avoid leaving pet food out and to get the fruit off the trees. The 
bears have figured out life is easier when humans are around.

https://flashbak.com/feeding-the-bears-at-yellowstone-photos-from-
the-1950s-and-1960s-448098/

When we went through Yellowstone in '52 part of the attraction was the 
bears lining up along the road to cadge handouts. Returning to the cabin 
after a fireside ranger talk we saw a bear sorting through the dumpster. 

I didn't see any bears the last time I passed though, 2019?. There still 
are campsites where you need a hard shell camper and not a tent though. 

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#77986 — Re: Chemical photography

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-27 23:47 -0500
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<3b6dnY7NbK7UtLT0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77971
On 11/27/25 14:37, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 11:45:08 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> Several species are getting accustomed to and relying on humanity -
>> raccoons, squirrels, various species of birds...even some bears...they
>> all realise that humans are well fed and don't want to eat them any
>> more.
> 
> Some areas in the city have bear-proof trash containers and advise people
> to avoid leaving pet food out and to get the fruit off the trees. The
> bears have figured out life is easier when humans are around.
> 
> https://flashbak.com/feeding-the-bears-at-yellowstone-photos-from-
> the-1950s-and-1960s-448098/
> 
> When we went through Yellowstone in '52 part of the attraction was the
> bears lining up along the road to cadge handouts. Returning to the cabin
> after a fireside ranger talk we saw a bear sorting through the dumpster.
> 
> I didn't see any bears the last time I passed though, 2019?. There still
> are campsites where you need a hard shell camper and not a tent though.

   Bear attacks are UP the past few years. Bear attacks
   due to Stupid Humans are up as well. Ooooh ! Cute baby
   bear ! Momma bear won't mind if we run up to cuddle it ! ...

   They try to cuddle buffalo too.

   Too much Disney .....

   Japan, bear attacks are up SO much that now they're
   sending ARMY units in to deal with them. The beasties
   are walking straight into buildings and proceeding
   to try and eat people. The mil can't seem to figure out
   that a 5.56 isn't the best bear weapon alas ... a 12ga
   with buckshot and/or slugs works much better. No, you
   don't need a .500 Nitro Express, no armored bears here.

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#77996 — Re: Chemical photography

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-28 06:20 +0000
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<most9pFbf5tU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77986
On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 23:47:03 -0500, c186282 wrote:

>    Japan, bear attacks are up SO much that now they're sending ARMY
>    units in to deal with them. The beasties are walking straight into
>    buildings and proceeding to try and eat people. The mil can't seem to
>    figure out that a 5.56 isn't the best bear weapon alas ... a 12ga
>    with buckshot and/or slugs works much better. No, you don't need a
>    .500 Nitro Express, no armored bears here.

The biologists that mess around in grizzly territory favor 12 gauge pumps, 
alternate slugs and 00 buckshot. I go with a .357 but that isn't optimal. 

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#77998 — Re: Chemical photography

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-28 01:38 -0500
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<HmCdnVkBx8zo3rT0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#77996
On 11/28/25 01:20, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 23:47:03 -0500, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Japan, bear attacks are up SO much that now they're sending ARMY
>>     units in to deal with them. The beasties are walking straight into
>>     buildings and proceeding to try and eat people. The mil can't seem to
>>     figure out that a 5.56 isn't the best bear weapon alas ... a 12ga
>>     with buckshot and/or slugs works much better. No, you don't need a
>>     .500 Nitro Express, no armored bears here.
> 
> The biologists that mess around in grizzly territory favor 12 gauge pumps,
> alternate slugs and 00 buckshot. I go with a .357 but that isn't optimal.

   Too small for maybe all but southeastern bears. 44 mag minimum,
   pref in a carbine. I think you can still get 265gr 44 bullets.

   SOMEbody makes a .50 S&W pistol/lever combo set ... saw an ad.

   Saw an old live cop show, Alaska, huge brown bear TOO
   close up - the cop took it down with a 12ga. Largest
   polar bears ... might want a tad more. The .375 H&H
   is good for most any thin-skinned critters. KICKS
   like a too-light 12ga alas  :-)

   Lower-48 ... some park/conservation employees have
   determined that the .338 Mag rifle is as effective
   on the big stuff as the .375, but with less recoil.

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#78003 — Re: Chemical photography

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-11-28 07:20 +0000
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<10gbift$25949$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77996
On 28/11/2025 06:20, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 23:47:03 -0500, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Japan, bear attacks are up SO much that now they're sending ARMY
>>     units in to deal with them. The beasties are walking straight into
>>     buildings and proceeding to try and eat people. The mil can't seem to
>>     figure out that a 5.56 isn't the best bear weapon alas ... a 12ga
>>     with buckshot and/or slugs works much better. No, you don't need a
>>     .500 Nitro Express, no armored bears here.
> 
> The biologists that mess around in grizzly territory favor 12 gauge pumps,
> alternate slugs and 00 buckshot. I go with a .357 but that isn't optimal.

What's wrong with a 50 cal machine gun or a Bushmaster 25mm autocannon?. 
Apart from picking up the pieces.


-- 
“It is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of 
making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people 
who pay no price for being wrong.”

Thomas Sowell

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#78004 — Re: Chemical photography

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-11-28 02:58 -0500
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<tWudnX6nzZXfy7T0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#78003
On 11/28/25 02:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 28/11/2025 06:20, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2025 23:47:03 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>>     Japan, bear attacks are up SO much that now they're sending ARMY
>>>     units in to deal with them. The beasties are walking straight into
>>>     buildings and proceeding to try and eat people. The mil can't 
>>> seem to
>>>     figure out that a 5.56 isn't the best bear weapon alas ... a 12ga
>>>     with buckshot and/or slugs works much better. No, you don't need a
>>>     .500 Nitro Express, no armored bears here.
>>
>> The biologists that mess around in grizzly territory favor 12 gauge 
>> pumps,
>> alternate slugs and 00 buckshot. I go with a .357 but that isn't optimal.
> 
> What's wrong with a 50 cal machine gun or a Bushmaster 25mm autocannon?. 
> Apart from picking up the pieces.

   Well, if it's an angry bear then we don't care
   how many pieces .....  :-)

   Alas both of those options are just a bit heavy
   to carry through hill country unless you're 19,
   large, and take lots of steroids.

   All-around for Alaska, .338 WM. If bears are
   a concern, the top ctg should be a heavier
   bullet.

   Hmm ... they USED to make something called
   a "drilling" ... like a heavy rifle or
   shotgun with a small-caliber rifle barrel
   on top, usually .22 ... good for big stuff
   and for rabbits roasting on the campfire.

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#78006 — Re: Chemical photography

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-11-28 09:12 +0000
SubjectRe: Chemical photography
Message-ID<mot7c8Fd065U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#78004
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 02:58:59 -0500, c186282 wrote:

>    Hmm ... they USED to make something called a "drilling" ... like a
>    heavy rifle or shotgun with a small-caliber rifle barrel on top,
>    usually .22 ... good for big stuff and for rabbits roasting on the
>    campfire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M30_Luftwaffe_Drilling

Beats the hell out of the M6. Savage still makes a .22/.410 combo. I don't 
know if .410 has become more available with the .410/.45LC revolvers. Like 
16 gauge it got scarce. My mother had a 16 ga. which was considered a 
ladies shotgun in her day but now it's all 12 or 20.

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