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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2025-11-08 02:01 -0500 |
| Last post | 2025-11-09 19:08 +0000 |
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Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-08 02:01 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 11:31 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 12:15 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-08 13:32 +0100
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 00:08 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-09 19:51 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:38 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 07:35 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-08 12:50 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-08 12:57 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-08 23:58 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-09 11:25 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 12:48 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 23:29 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-09 09:18 -0800
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-09 20:13 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 07:47 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:09 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 20:35 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-10 21:15 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 23:33 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:23 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 01:03 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 10:57 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:36 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-11 20:50 +0100
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:44 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:38 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-12 16:38 -0800
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-13 04:29 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-13 05:07 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 01:09 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:42 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:37 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 23:46 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 05:31 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 06:00 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 02:08 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:55 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:30 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:56 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:54 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:17 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-13 10:38 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 12:20 +0100
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:50 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:18 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 00:54 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:28 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:25 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 04:35 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:49 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-12 10:49 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:31 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-11 23:33 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-11 21:07 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 01:21 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:44 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 00:13 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-13 05:40 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 01:20 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 23:31 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 03:39 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-10 19:48 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-11-10 20:35 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-10 21:53 +0100
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-10 20:37 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 23:51 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-11 19:40 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 23:01 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-12 04:33 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 12:27 +0100
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-11-12 12:44 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 14:17 +0100
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-12 23:51 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-13 22:38 +0100
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-13 21:30 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-14 04:21 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 07:10 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 02:51 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 07:08 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 13:40 +0100
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-14 16:26 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 19:51 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 19:22 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-11-14 17:34 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-14 19:54 +0000
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 13:37 +0100
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-14 16:09 -0500
Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 02:05 +0000
Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-15 09:59 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 17:32 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-15 18:48 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-15 21:38 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-15 22:07 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-15 22:21 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-15 23:14 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 00:29 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-16 00:43 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 00:45 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-16 09:14 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-16 15:40 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 18:38 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-18 03:55 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-19 13:11 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-19 20:12 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:10 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:01 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 03:43 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:35 -0500
Re: Recent history of vi mechanicjay@sol.smbfc.net (Mechanicjay) - 2025-11-16 15:47 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 05:15 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:31 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 20:27 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:30 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:04 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-17 04:08 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-17 11:39 -0500
Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:31 -0500
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:03 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-17 02:32 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-15 21:51 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 05:11 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 05:13 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-16 12:15 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:24 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-17 08:24 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-17 19:57 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-18 08:02 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-18 12:09 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:56 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-17 04:01 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi (was: Re: Python/C/Pascal ... How To Choose ?) Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-11-17 08:27 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 10:33 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-16 09:49 -0500
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-16 19:28 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 20:19 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 20:59 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 21:04 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-16 21:19 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 21:23 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-16 23:13 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-16 23:18 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-17 00:43 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-21 19:55 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:27 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-22 03:20 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 05:57 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 23:51 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-18 20:04 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-18 20:29 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-19 08:24 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-21 19:58 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 21:14 +0000
ISO 8859-1, ISO 8859-15 and their names (was: Re: Recent history of vi) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 23:20 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-21 19:10 -0700
Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-22 10:23 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-22 17:55 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-22 19:20 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 21:43 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 00:23 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-23 02:17 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:42 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 14:59 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 13:09 -0800
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:57 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 02:56 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-22 20:18 -0700
Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 01:45 +0000
Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 18:06 -0800
Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:13 +0000
Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 02:23 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 19:55 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-22 20:25 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 20:02 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:16 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-27 21:18 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-19 02:37 +0100
ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") (was: Recent history of vi) Michael Bäuerle <michael.baeuerle@stz-e.de> - 2025-11-19 14:58 +0100
Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") (was: Recent history of vi) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-20 02:09 +0000
Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-19 20:16 -0700
Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 08:47 +0000
Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:10 +0000
Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> - 2025-11-21 12:24 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-11-19 13:02 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-23 16:25 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-11-25 10:26 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-25 20:05 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 23:04 -0500
Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 20:10 +0100
Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-27 20:19 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:44 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Anthk NM <anthk@disroot.org> - 2025-11-23 12:48 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-11-23 17:51 +0000
Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 20:11 +0000
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| From | Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-11 08:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10euthl$j4v6$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #77318 |
On 11/11/25 05:48, c186282 wrote: > On 11/10/25 20:40, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 00:35:54 +0000, Pancho wrote: >> >>> As a simple example, a function to check if one word is an anagram of >>> another word. This is a real life interview question I got wrong. >> >> Python 3.13.9 (main, Oct 15 2025, 14:56:22) [GCC 15.2.0] on linux >> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more >> information. >> >>> word1 = "asterisk" >> >>> word2 = "seaskirt" >> >>> sorted(word1) == sorted(word2) >> True >> >> Easy-peasy. ;) > > Ah, but for anagrams you need a HUGE dict of > words to compare with. Then you have to search > that list semi-efficiently. (Some) human brains > do that pretty well, but computers are not that > bright - all brute algos. > It is relatively quick to sort the letters in every word in a dictionary. The number of words in a dictionary is small compared to the permutations of a long word. The number of permutations is approximated by Stirling's approximation, clarifying that growth is worse than exponential.
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| From | Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> |
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| Date | 2025-11-11 11:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1876f10fca8b421f$24267$3612999$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> |
| In reply to | #77324 |
On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 08:53:09 +0000, Pancho wrote: > On 11/11/25 05:48, c186282 wrote: >> On 11/10/25 20:40, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 00:35:54 +0000, Pancho wrote: >>> >>>> As a simple example, a function to check if one word is an anagram of >>>> another word. This is a real life interview question I got wrong. >>> >>> Python 3.13.9 (main, Oct 15 2025, 14:56:22) [GCC 15.2.0] on linux >>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more >>> information. >>> >>> word1 = "asterisk" >>> >>> word2 = "seaskirt" >>> >>> sorted(word1) == sorted(word2) >>> True >>> >>> Easy-peasy. ;) >> >> Ah, but for anagrams you need a HUGE dict of >> words to compare with. Then you have to search >> that list semi-efficiently. (Some) human brains >> do that pretty well, but computers are not that >> bright - all brute algos. >> > > It is relatively quick to sort the letters in every word in a > dictionary. The number of words in a dictionary is small compared to the > permutations of a long word. > > The number of permutations is approximated by Stirling's approximation, > clarifying that growth is worse than exponential. > I have already published the FASTEST possible method of finding all of the anagrams of a given word. Feel free to check it out: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.advocacy/c/2T0XwOpgpNk/m/fi9cL650AAAJ SPEED is the essence and raison d'etre of all computing.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-11 23:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ysWdnVu7PO-jkYn0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #77328 |
On 11/11/25 06:42, Farley Flud wrote: > On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 08:53:09 +0000, Pancho wrote: > >> On 11/11/25 05:48, c186282 wrote: >>> On 11/10/25 20:40, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 00:35:54 +0000, Pancho wrote: >>>> >>>>> As a simple example, a function to check if one word is an anagram of >>>>> another word. This is a real life interview question I got wrong. >>>> >>>> Python 3.13.9 (main, Oct 15 2025, 14:56:22) [GCC 15.2.0] on linux >>>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more >>>> information. >>>> >>> word1 = "asterisk" >>>> >>> word2 = "seaskirt" >>>> >>> sorted(word1) == sorted(word2) >>>> True >>>> >>>> Easy-peasy. ;) >>> >>> Ah, but for anagrams you need a HUGE dict of >>> words to compare with. Then you have to search >>> that list semi-efficiently. (Some) human brains >>> do that pretty well, but computers are not that >>> bright - all brute algos. >>> >> >> It is relatively quick to sort the letters in every word in a >> dictionary. The number of words in a dictionary is small compared to the >> permutations of a long word. >> >> The number of permutations is approximated by Stirling's approximation, >> clarifying that growth is worse than exponential. >> > > I have already published the FASTEST possible method of finding all of the > anagrams of a given word. Feel free to check it out: > > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.advocacy/c/2T0XwOpgpNk/m/fi9cL650AAAJ But "all possible" does not = CORRECT. > SPEED is the essence and raison d'etre of all computing. As said, depends on what you mean by "speed" ... An app that takes a month to write is not 'better' than one that takes a day. An app only one person can figure/debug is not 'better'.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-11 23:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rdmcnd-sdIjGlon0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #77324 |
On 11/11/25 03:53, Pancho wrote: > On 11/11/25 05:48, c186282 wrote: >> On 11/10/25 20:40, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 00:35:54 +0000, Pancho wrote: >>> >>>> As a simple example, a function to check if one word is an anagram of >>>> another word. This is a real life interview question I got wrong. >>> >>> Python 3.13.9 (main, Oct 15 2025, 14:56:22) [GCC 15.2.0] on linux >>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more >>> information. >>> >>> word1 = "asterisk" >>> >>> word2 = "seaskirt" >>> >>> sorted(word1) == sorted(word2) >>> True >>> >>> Easy-peasy. ;) >> >> Ah, but for anagrams you need a HUGE dict of >> words to compare with. Then you have to search >> that list semi-efficiently. (Some) human brains >> do that pretty well, but computers are not that >> bright - all brute algos. >> > > It is relatively quick to sort the letters in every word in a > dictionary. The number of words in a dictionary is small compared to the > permutations of a long word. Yes, it's "relatively easy" code ... but you still have to have/search the gigantic database of real words. Will use up a massive number of cycles and many gigs of storage. "Easy" does not always equal "efficient". Humans can sort of 'cheat' anagrams sometimes, find clear or subtle clues about the intent and quickly recognize likely solutions. Even AI can't really do that ... oh, and AIs are NOT 'efficient computing' at all. > The number of permutations is approximated by Stirling's approximation, > clarifying that growth is worse than exponential.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-11 19:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mnhinmF1ld6U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #77318 |
On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 00:48:59 -0500, c186282 wrote: > On 11/10/25 20:40, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 00:35:54 +0000, Pancho wrote: >> >>> As a simple example, a function to check if one word is an anagram of >>> another word. This is a real life interview question I got wrong. >> >> Python 3.13.9 (main, Oct 15 2025, 14:56:22) [GCC 15.2.0] on linux >> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more >> information. >> >>> word1 = "asterisk" >> >>> word2 = "seaskirt" sorted(word1) == sorted(word2) >> True >> >> Easy-peasy. ;) > > Ah, but for anagrams you need a HUGE dict of words to compare with. > Then you have to search that list semi-efficiently. (Some) human > brains do that pretty well, but computers are not that bright - all > brute algos. A trie would work.
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| From | Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-11 08:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10euslc$j4v6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #77305 |
On 11/11/25 01:40, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 00:35:54 +0000, Pancho wrote: > >> As a simple example, a function to check if one word is an anagram of >> another word. This is a real life interview question I got wrong. > > Python 3.13.9 (main, Oct 15 2025, 14:56:22) [GCC 15.2.0] on linux > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > >>> word1 = "asterisk" > >>> word2 = "seaskirt" > >>> sorted(word1) == sorted(word2) > True > > Easy-peasy. ;) Yes easy peasy, when you get it right, but it is also easy to go the wrong way, generate all permutations,
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-11 19:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mnhhueF1ld6U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #77323 |
On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 08:38:04 +0000, Pancho wrote: > On 11/11/25 01:40, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 00:35:54 +0000, Pancho wrote: >> >>> As a simple example, a function to check if one word is an anagram of >>> another word. This is a real life interview question I got wrong. >> >> Python 3.13.9 (main, Oct 15 2025, 14:56:22) [GCC 15.2.0] on linux >> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more >> information. >> >>> word1 = "asterisk" >> >>> word2 = "seaskirt" sorted(word1) == sorted(word2) >> True >> >> Easy-peasy. ;) > > Yes easy peasy, when you get it right, but it is also easy to go the > wrong way, generate all permutations, Generating all the possible anagrams would be more challenging that comparing two words.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-11 23:43 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rdmcnd6sdIgVjYn0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #77337 |
On 11/11/25 14:43, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 08:38:04 +0000, Pancho wrote: > >> On 11/11/25 01:40, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 00:35:54 +0000, Pancho wrote: >>> >>>> As a simple example, a function to check if one word is an anagram of >>>> another word. This is a real life interview question I got wrong. >>> >>> Python 3.13.9 (main, Oct 15 2025, 14:56:22) [GCC 15.2.0] on linux >>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more >>> information. >>> >>> word1 = "asterisk" >>> >>> word2 = "seaskirt" sorted(word1) == sorted(word2) >>> True >>> >>> Easy-peasy. ;) >> >> Yes easy peasy, when you get it right, but it is also easy to go the >> wrong way, generate all permutations, > > Generating all the possible anagrams would be more challenging that > comparing two words. But "generation" doesn't solve the PROBLEM. Exactly WHICH permutation is the RIGHT one ??? In short, when is 'redrum' vitally important and when not ?
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-12 10:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10f1opa$1cbme$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #77368 |
On 12/11/2025 04:43, c186282 wrote: >> Generating all the possible anagrams would be more challenging that >> comparing two words. > > But "generation" doesn't solve the PROBLEM. Exactly WHICH > permutation is the RIGHT one ??? Ah, The Problem of Induction... -- "And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch". Gospel of St. Mathew 15:14
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-12 23:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <MuOcnThTubEYx4j0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #77395 |
On 11/12/25 05:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 12/11/2025 04:43, c186282 wrote: >>> Generating all the possible anagrams would be more challenging that >>> comparing two words. >> >> But "generation" doesn't solve the PROBLEM. Exactly WHICH >> permutation is the RIGHT one ??? > > Ah, The Problem of Induction... Yes, a 'broader', 'more human', issue. If you get a 16-character anagram, which permutation applies to YOUR particular issue ??? Simple automation won't solve that. "Redrum !"
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-13 10:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10f4bkl$22lg1$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #77444 |
On 13/11/2025 04:11, c186282 wrote: > On 11/12/25 05:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 12/11/2025 04:43, c186282 wrote: >>>> Generating all the possible anagrams would be more challenging that >>>> comparing two words. >>> >>> But "generation" doesn't solve the PROBLEM. Exactly WHICH >>> permutation is the RIGHT one ??? >> >> Ah, The Problem of Induction... > > > Yes, a 'broader', 'more human', issue. > > If you get a 16-character anagram, which > permutation applies to YOUR particular > issue ??? Simple automation won't solve > that. > That's why crossword clues are not *just* anagrams. Try this one for size... Gegs? 9,4 -- "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift.
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| From | Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-11-12 16:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10f2c7i$1ibe4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #77337 |
On 11/11/25 19:43, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 08:38:04 +0000, Pancho wrote: > >> On 11/11/25 01:40, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 00:35:54 +0000, Pancho wrote: >>> >>>> As a simple example, a function to check if one word is an anagram of >>>> another word. This is a real life interview question I got wrong. >>> >>> Python 3.13.9 (main, Oct 15 2025, 14:56:22) [GCC 15.2.0] on linux >>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more >>> information. >>> >>> word1 = "asterisk" >>> >>> word2 = "seaskirt" sorted(word1) == sorted(word2) >>> True >>> >>> Easy-peasy. ;) >> >> Yes easy peasy, when you get it right, but it is also easy to go the >> wrong way, generate all permutations, > > Generating all the possible anagrams would be more challenging that > comparing two words. Yes, that was what I was asked to do as an interview question. My mistake was assuming it was faster to generate all permutations and do a check if each permutation was in an English dictionary, than it was to sort every word in an English dictionary. I hadn't appreciated how fast factorial complexity went very bad. I was using it as a metaphor for how projects go wrong. Someone makes a bad early decision and no amount of performance optimisation will save it. Even after the interview, in my arrogance, I didn't appreciate what I had done wrong, I had to write the code myself and have it slapped in my face. I do think programmers having their failings exposed so obviously makes us better people. I'm shocked by how many of my aged peers have become, self entitled, pompous old fools.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-11 10:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10ev4uj$loo6$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #77304 |
On 11/11/2025 00:35, Pancho wrote: > On 11/10/25 22:21, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> On Mon, 10 Nov 2025 22:40:08 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> The lesson I learned was that it was sometimes possible to optimize >>> just a small section of code and get a significant speed update. >> >> That is usually the case with optimization for speed. Also, you need >> to do >> some actual measurements on your code to figure out where the slow parts >> are: it can be quite hard to guess up-front where they are likely to be. >> >> Also: >> >> “Premature optimization is the root of all evil.” >> -- variously attributed to Donald Knuth or Tony Hoare > > A lot of optimisation, isn't about code optimisation, it is about > algorithm optimisation. i.e. You need a whole paradigm shift rather than > tweaking. > > As a simple example, a function to check if one word is an anagram of > another word. This is a real life interview question I got wrong. Oh, That's a nice problem! -- “People believe certain stories because everyone important tells them, and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them. Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, one’s agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of one’s suitability to be taken seriously.” Paul Krugman
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| From | vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> |
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| Date | 2025-11-11 17:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10evqtf$rdcf$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #77279 |
At 10 Nov 2025 21:01:55 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2025 08:57:36 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
> > On 2025-11-09 21:13, Diego Garcia wrote:
> >> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 09:18:26 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> But programming being solely about Speed seems a bit off to me.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> All that I can say in response is that you must not do much
> >> audio/video processing or very large file processing or large
> >> software compiling because each of these activities can make a
> >> person SCREAM for more SPEED.
> >
> > Not really.
> >
> > Having waited hours for an 8086 to process a drawing in Autocad,
> > that a video takes a few minutes to process doesn't worry me.
>
> There was a point, maybe 8 to 10 years ago where most tasks including
> compiling our entire source tree went from 'go out for lunch' to a
> few minutes. Since then there have been performance improvements but
> unless you're timing the operation they really aren't noticeable.
>
> There are bottlenecks other than processor speed. Many of our sites
> used SQL Server for geodata, which meant network calls to the server.
> Esri came out with a FileGDB system where the geodata was stored on
> each client machine that was a good deal faster. The trade off in
> that case was changes to the geodata had to be copied to each machine
> rather than just in the SQL Server instance.
>
> The increasing trend to do everything in the 'cloud' introduces
> problems.
I know you didn't ask, but for anyone needing to distribute
files, this might be helpful:
https://linux.die.net/man/1/rdist
Distributes files, also has the ability to be coerced to act
as a sort of distributed "make". Can also be set up to use ssh.
Back in the day, I used it to distribute files to different
systems, but patched to use ssh by default. ("sdist".)
Nowadays, I guess people use systems like "puppet" -- not sure
if they are any better.
--
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-11 23:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ysWdnVq7PO-dkIn0nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #77331 |
On 11/11/25 12:14, vallor wrote:
> At 10 Nov 2025 21:01:55 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2025 08:57:36 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-11-09 21:13, Diego Garcia wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 09:18:26 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> But programming being solely about Speed seems a bit off to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> All that I can say in response is that you must not do much
>>>> audio/video processing or very large file processing or large
>>>> software compiling because each of these activities can make a
>>>> person SCREAM for more SPEED.
>>>
>>> Not really.
>>>
>>> Having waited hours for an 8086 to process a drawing in Autocad,
>>> that a video takes a few minutes to process doesn't worry me.
>>
>> There was a point, maybe 8 to 10 years ago where most tasks including
>> compiling our entire source tree went from 'go out for lunch' to a
>> few minutes. Since then there have been performance improvements but
>> unless you're timing the operation they really aren't noticeable.
>>
>> There are bottlenecks other than processor speed. Many of our sites
>> used SQL Server for geodata, which meant network calls to the server.
>> Esri came out with a FileGDB system where the geodata was stored on
>> each client machine that was a good deal faster. The trade off in
>> that case was changes to the geodata had to be copied to each machine
>> rather than just in the SQL Server instance.
>>
>> The increasing trend to do everything in the 'cloud' introduces
>> problems.
>
> I know you didn't ask, but for anyone needing to distribute
> files, this might be helpful:
>
> https://linux.die.net/man/1/rdist
>
> Distributes files, also has the ability to be coerced to act
> as a sort of distributed "make". Can also be set up to use ssh.
>
> Back in the day, I used it to distribute files to different
> systems, but patched to use ssh by default. ("sdist".)
>
> Nowadays, I guess people use systems like "puppet" -- not sure
> if they are any better.
Can make you a puppet of Vlad and Xi ...
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-12 10:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10f1oli$1cbme$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #77362 |
On 12/11/2025 04:28, c186282 wrote: >> Nowadays, I guess people use systems like "puppet" -- not sure >> if they are any better. > > > Can make you a puppet of Vlad and Xi ... They already are. -- "And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch". Gospel of St. Mathew 15:14
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| From | vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> |
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| Date | 2025-11-12 11:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10f1qhe$1c8n0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #77393 |
At Wed, 12 Nov 2025 10:48:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 12/11/2025 04:28, c186282 wrote: > >> Nowadays, I guess people use systems like "puppet" -- not sure > >> if they are any better. > > > > > > Can make you a puppet of Vlad and Xi ... > > They already are. Dude, what on Earth are you talking about? Also, fix your sig -- Matthew has two t's in it. Scripture will not be mocked! ;) Oblinux: $ bible Matthew15:14 Matthew 15 14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. $ apt-file search -x /usr/bin/bible$ bible-kjv: /usr/bin/bible -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090Ti 24G OS: Linux 6.18.0-rc5 D: Mint 22.2 DE: Xfce 4.18 NVIDIA: 580.105.08 Mem: 258G Tennis in the Bible: "Moses served in Pharaoh's court..."
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-12 23:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <MuOcnTVTubHdwoj0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #77398 |
On 11/12/25 06:20, vallor wrote: > At Wed, 12 Nov 2025 10:48:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher > <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 12/11/2025 04:28, c186282 wrote: >>>> Nowadays, I guess people use systems like "puppet" -- not sure >>>> if they are any better. >>> >>> >>> Can make you a puppet of Vlad and Xi ... >> >> They already are. > > Dude, what on Earth are you talking about? He's talking about some IMPORTANT stuff. Get with the program !
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-11-12 23:08 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <MuOcnTlTubFYxIj0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #77393 |
On 11/12/25 05:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 12/11/2025 04:28, c186282 wrote: >>> Nowadays, I guess people use systems like "puppet" -- not sure >>> if they are any better. >> >> >> Can make you a puppet of Vlad and Xi ... > > They already are. Yea ... alas ... more and more and more ....... Not sure if there's still time to deal with it.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-11-13 10:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10f4bhd$22lg1$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #77443 |
On 13/11/2025 04:08, c186282 wrote: > On 11/12/25 05:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 12/11/2025 04:28, c186282 wrote: >>>> Nowadays, I guess people use systems like "puppet" -- not sure >>>> if they are any better. >>> >>> >>> Can make you a puppet of Vlad and Xi ... >> >> They already are. > > Yea ... alas ... more and more and more ....... > > Not sure if there's still time to deal with it. > Putin is like a figure from a Greek tragedy. He cannot do other than he is doing even though it is leading to the exact opposite of what he wanted. Make Russia Great Again is destroying it, instead. -- "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift.
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