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Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?

Started byAnssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi>
First post2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
Last post2025-10-12 12:10 +0100
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  Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-10-07 16:07 +0300
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-07 14:39 +0100
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-07 22:52 +0000
    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-08 01:35 -0400
      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-08 10:53 +0200
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-08 21:06 +0000
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:25 +0200
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-09 21:45 +0000
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:41 -0400
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 09:21 +0200
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 13:21 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:15 +0200
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-10 21:53 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:46 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:38 -0400
        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 02:09 -0400
          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-09 18:52 +0000
            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-09 21:33 -0400
              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-11 15:10 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 17:48 +0000
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:01 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:08 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:32 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:29 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-12 11:07 +0000
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-13 09:06 -0700
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-18 16:24 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-18 21:02 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-19 01:36 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:39 +0200
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-20 02:10 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:36 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:33 -0400
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 02:31 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:21 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-19 12:17 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:22 +0000
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:28 -0400
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:19 +0100
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-20 09:20 -0700
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-25 12:49 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 16:45 +0100
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:51 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 08:42 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 09:11 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 10:06 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:25 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:48 +0100
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:29 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:44 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 00:57 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 07:14 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:05 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 02:00 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:02 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:03 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 21:19 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 01:50 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 14:52 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:06 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 20:29 +0100
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:22 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:17 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:09 +0100
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-27 21:23 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:47 +0100
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 00:27 +0000
                                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
                                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:05 +0000
                                              Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 13:46 +0100
                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:47 +0000
                                                  Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 20:21 +0000
                                                    Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-28 23:46 +0100
                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:07 +0000
                                                      Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-29 22:15 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-10-30 17:29 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 17:31 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 19:31 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:11 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:10 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:35 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-30 21:40 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 15:18 -0700
                                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:17 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:46 -0700
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:25 +0000
                                                                      LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:38 +0100
                                                                        Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 20:50 -0400
                                                                          Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:14 +0000
                                                                          Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:41 +0100
                                                                          Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:57 +0000
                                                                            Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 00:12 +0000
                                                                              Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:38 +0100
                                                                                Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 00:19 -0500
                                                                                  Re: LED lights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 07:03 +0000
                                                                                    Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 14:20 -0500
                                                                                      Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:02 +0000
                                                                                        Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:42 +0000
                                                                                          Re: LED lights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:31 -0500
                                                                                Re: LED lights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:16 +0000
                                                                        Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:51 +0000
                                                                          Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:48 +0100
                                                                            Re: LED lights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:42 +0000
                                                                              Re: LED lights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:33 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:21 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:59 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:41 +0100
                                                                  Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 08:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:53 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-31 19:02 -0700
                                                                      Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 02:52 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:32 +0000
                                                                          Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:19 +0000
                                                                            TV tropes (was: Re: Accents.) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:01 +0000
                                                                              Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 13:10 +0100
                                                                                Re: TV tropes Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-20 21:28 +0100
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:10 +0000
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:14 +0100
                                                                              Re: TV tropes Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 02:09 +0000
                                                                                Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 07:41 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-11-21 09:00 +0000
                                                                                  Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 09:13 +0000
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 13:17 +0100
                                                                                    Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-21 19:28 +0000
                                                                                      Re: TV tropes "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:43 +0100
                                                                                        Re: TV tropes The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 23:00 +0000
                                                                                        Re: TV tropes rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-22 04:06 +0000
                                                                        Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:24 +0100
                                                                          Re: Not Blade Runner Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:57 +0000
                                                                    Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:22 +0100
                                                                      Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:22 +0000
                                                                        Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 15:50 +0100
                                                                          Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:20 +0000
                                                                            Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-02 21:34 +0100
                                                                              Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:47 +0000
                                                                                Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:05 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Blade runner rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Blade runner c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 15:40 -0500
                                                                                      Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 22:30 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-03 17:48 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Flashlights Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-11-03 20:26 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-04 04:55 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:35 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-11-05 03:44 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 01:05 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 13:20 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:08 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:33 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:37 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:26 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 11:56 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:42 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:30 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-11-07 16:20 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-07 18:11 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-07 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 22:42 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-07 21:08 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-08 13:31 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-08 16:05 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-08 20:06 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-09 00:04 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-09 20:08 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:41 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-10 12:07 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2025-11-09 19:05 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-10 00:58 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:12 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 05:09 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 01:31 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-06 18:39 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 07:51 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 02:19 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:55 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:16 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-21 20:39 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-21 22:54 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:52 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-21 23:32 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 06:49 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-22 03:14 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-22 11:32 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 22:00 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 02:35 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:40 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 20:15 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:10 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 01:42 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:09 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:17 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 22:19 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-23 21:58 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-24 20:28 +0100
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                                                                                                                    Chemical photography "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 07:59 +0100
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                                                                                                                                      City fauna "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-26 11:18 +0100
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                                                                                              Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-04 11:28 +0100
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                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 13:27 -0500
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                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-04 20:52 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-04 21:23 -0500
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                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:05 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:21 -0500
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                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 03:54 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Flashlights Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-21 18:20 +0000
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                                                                                              Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 07:21 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-05 16:41 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:16 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-05 22:22 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 22:41 -0500
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                                                                                                        Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-06 17:24 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Flashlights "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-07 02:44 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Flashlights c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-05 21:53 -0500
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                                                                                    Re: Blade runner "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 23:14 +0100
                                                                    Re: Accents. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-19 19:01 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:19 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:33 +0000
                                                                    Blade runner. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:29 +0100
                                                                      Re: Blade runner. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 19:56 +0000
                                                                        Re: Blade runner. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:38 -0400
                                                                  Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:31 +0100
                                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:48 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:22 +0000
                                                        Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 21:33 +0100
                                                          Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:20 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-30 23:36 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 04:51 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-31 14:48 +0100
                                                                  Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 15:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:39 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-31 23:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:44 +0100
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                                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:54 +0000
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                                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:10 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:49 +0000
                                                                          Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 11:13 +0000
                                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 18:48 +0000
                                                                              Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:12 +0000
                                                                                Re: Accents. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-03 20:04 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-04 04:28 +0000
                                                                              Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 13:11 +0100
                                                                                Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 12:26 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 09:17 -0800
                                                                    Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 14:42 +0100
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:01 +0000
                                                                    Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:33 +0000
                                                                        Re: Accents. Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:43 -0700
                                                                          Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
                                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:47 +0000
                                                          Re: Accents. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:48 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:58 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:25 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:09 +0100
                                                          Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 03:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-30 21:50 -0700
                                                              Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:28 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-31 08:27 +0000
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 19:41 +0000
                                                                Re: Accents. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
                                                                  Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-01 05:36 +0000
                                                            Re: Accents. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-01 20:11 +0100
                                                              Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 00:59 +0000
                                                Re: Accents. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 18:54 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-28 09:34 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-26 13:53 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-10-26 15:40 +0100
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 19:11 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:03 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:20 -0400
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:29 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-02 14:11 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-02 14:15 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-03 02:37 +0100
                                          OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-02 18:49 -0800
                                            Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 06:54 +0000
                                              Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-03 08:19 -0800
                                            Re: OT -xRe: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:18 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:34 -0700
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:26 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 03:36 -0400
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:31 +0000
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 01:33 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:52 +0200
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 22:48 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-12 02:43 +0200
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:12 +0100
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:02 -0400
                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 06:39 +0000
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-12 02:59 -0400
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:20 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-13 16:50 +0000
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 18:38 +0100
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:38 -0400
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:45 -0400
                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:17 +0100
                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 03:28 +0000
                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:41 -0400
                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:20 +0100
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-13 11:55 +0200
                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-13 21:56 +0000
                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 00:35 +0000
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:21 -0400
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 06:56 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 17:20 +0000
                                    Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:01 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 05:36 +0000
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:33 -0400
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:18 +0000
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:24 -0400
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:31 +0000
                                      Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 09:00 -0700
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:24 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-15 15:11 -0700
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:27 -0400
                                            Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:22 +0000
                                              Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:24 -0400
                                                Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:08 +0200
                                                  Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-19 04:15 -0400
                                                    Re: Lazarus [Was: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work?] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:46 +0200
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-16 04:36 +0000
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 10:29 -0700
                                        Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:49 -0400
                                          Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 15:43 -0700
                                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-14 21:30 +0000
                                  Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-14 22:11 +0000
                Re: Fancy-smanchy installers that don't work? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:10 +0100

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#76702

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-10-26 04:40 +0000
Message-ID<nDhLQ.85662$P8zb.16178@fx04.iad>
In reply to#76696
On 2025-10-26, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 21:19:03 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>
>>    Heh heh ... I remember back in the late 80s or so during an "All
>>    French" wave of fanaticism they decided to replace the word
>>    "satellite" with what was essentially a full sentence-long
>>    description about made objects lofted into orbits
>> 
>>    "Satellite" or even "Sputnik" were a hell of a lot better,
>>    but not FRENCH !
>
> https://www.etymonline.com/word/satellite
>
> Several other sources also say it was a Middle French word meaning 
> sycophant or follower.
>
> German leaves off the 'e'. I have a Grundig Satellit 700 shortwave 
> receiver. Grundig started using Satellit in '64, being all hip and space 
> racey.

The German courses I took in university threw in some new
technological words for much the same reason.  Given German's
habit of stringing words together, I figured that the word
for "cosmic ray research rocket launching area" would be
Weltraumstrahlungforschungsraketenflugplatz.

(with a tip of the hat to the Danube Steamship company)

> trivia: Trabant is a synonym more used for a moon orbiting a planet. 
> Fitting for the much beloved Trabant car which was out of this world.

Customer: I'd like a side mirror for a Trabant.
Dealer: That sounds like a good trade.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#76718

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-26 14:52 +0100
Message-ID<oll1tlxnfk.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76695
On 2025-10-26 02:19, c186282 wrote:
> On 10/25/25 18:03, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> On 25 Oct 2025 12:49:55 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>> As a lot of new words comes from English, mostly in computer land
>>> but not only, French are using them because it's easier to adopt
>>> them than to coin new ones.
>>
>> You mean, nobody says “logiciel pour ordinateur” any more? ;)
> 
>    Heh heh ... I remember back in the late 80s or so
>    during an "All French" wave of fanaticism they decided
>    to replace the word "satellite" with what was essentially
>    a full sentence-long description about made objects
>    lofted into orbits  :-)
> 
>    "Satellite" or even "Sputnik" were a hell of a lot better,
>    but not FRENCH !

What word is used for the Moon? It is a satellite.

...

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76723

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-26 19:06 +0000
Message-ID<mm79pkFr1meU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76718
On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 14:52:24 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2025-10-26 02:19, c186282 wrote:
>> On 10/25/25 18:03, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>> On 25 Oct 2025 12:49:55 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>
>>>> As a lot of new words comes from English, mostly in computer land but
>>>> not only, French are using them because it's easier to adopt them
>>>> than to coin new ones.
>>>
>>> You mean, nobody says “logiciel pour ordinateur” any more? ;)
>> 
>>    Heh heh ... I remember back in the late 80s or so during an "All
>>    French" wave of fanaticism they decided to replace the word
>>    "satellite" with what was essentially a full sentence-long
>>    description about made objects lofted into orbits  :-)
>> 
>>    "Satellite" or even "Sputnik" were a hell of a lot better,
>>    but not FRENCH !
> 
> What word is used for the Moon? It is a satellite.

La lune?

Trivia: In the German the moon (der Mond) is masculine and the sun (die 
Sonne) if feminine.  I think that's true for most Germanic languages. Lee 
Hollander, a translator of old Norse material, took heat for switching 
genders. I'm sure he knew what he was doing but thought calling the moon 
'him' would be weird for English readers. 

My theory is if you live in a place that's cold and dark for a substantial 
part of the year the nice, warming sun has a maternal feel to it, versus 
the cold full moon on a 20 below night.

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#76726

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-26 20:29 +0100
Message-ID<he92tlxpuj.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76723
On 2025-10-26 20:06, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 14:52:24 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-10-26 02:19, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 10/25/25 18:03, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>> On 25 Oct 2025 12:49:55 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As a lot of new words comes from English, mostly in computer land but
>>>>> not only, French are using them because it's easier to adopt them
>>>>> than to coin new ones.
>>>>
>>>> You mean, nobody says “logiciel pour ordinateur” any more? ;)
>>>
>>>     Heh heh ... I remember back in the late 80s or so during an "All
>>>     French" wave of fanaticism they decided to replace the word
>>>     "satellite" with what was essentially a full sentence-long
>>>     description about made objects lofted into orbits  :-)
>>>
>>>     "Satellite" or even "Sputnik" were a hell of a lot better,
>>>     but not FRENCH !
>>
>> What word is used for the Moon? It is a satellite.
> 
> La lune?

Well, that's "La Luna" in Spanish, but I mean saying "Earth has one 
satellite, Jupiter has several satellites". The generic, not the 
specific name.

I read Verne's novel, he must have used some word, I keep thinking of 
that novel.

> 
> Trivia: In the German the moon (der Mond) is masculine and the sun (die
> Sonne) if feminine.  I think that's true for most Germanic languages. Lee
> Hollander, a translator of old Norse material, took heat for switching
> genders. I'm sure he knew what he was doing but thought calling the moon
> 'him' would be weird for English readers.
> 
> My theory is if you live in a place that's cold and dark for a substantial
> part of the year the nice, warming sun has a maternal feel to it, versus
> the cold full moon on a 20 below night.

Curious.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76727

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-10-26 21:22 +0000
Message-ID<10dm3ea$98dl$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76718
On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 14:52:24 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> What word is used for the Moon? It is a satellite.

Actually the Earth-Moon system is, in dynamical terms, a binary-planet 
system. The Sun’s gravitational pull on the Moon is much greater than that 
of the Earth.

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#76732

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-10-26 22:17 -0400
Message-ID<pJScnfDvlZ7XS2P1nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#76718
On 10/26/25 09:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-10-26 02:19, c186282 wrote:
>> On 10/25/25 18:03, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>> On 25 Oct 2025 12:49:55 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>
>>>> As a lot of new words comes from English, mostly in computer land
>>>> but not only, French are using them because it's easier to adopt
>>>> them than to coin new ones.
>>>
>>> You mean, nobody says “logiciel pour ordinateur” any more? ;)
>>
>>    Heh heh ... I remember back in the late 80s or so
>>    during an "All French" wave of fanaticism they decided
>>    to replace the word "satellite" with what was essentially
>>    a full sentence-long description about made objects
>>    lofted into orbits  :-)
>>
>>    "Satellite" or even "Sputnik" were a hell of a lot better,
>>    but not FRENCH !
> 
> What word is used for the Moon? It is a satellite.


   But not a 'made thing' - natural - unless you
   ask the UFO freaks ...

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#76742

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-27 10:09 +0100
Message-ID<lfp3tlx0rm.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76732
On 2025-10-27 03:17, c186282 wrote:
> On 10/26/25 09:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-10-26 02:19, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 10/25/25 18:03, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>> On 25 Oct 2025 12:49:55 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As a lot of new words comes from English, mostly in computer land
>>>>> but not only, French are using them because it's easier to adopt
>>>>> them than to coin new ones.
>>>>
>>>> You mean, nobody says “logiciel pour ordinateur” any more? ;)
>>>
>>>    Heh heh ... I remember back in the late 80s or so
>>>    during an "All French" wave of fanaticism they decided
>>>    to replace the word "satellite" with what was essentially
>>>    a full sentence-long description about made objects
>>>    lofted into orbits  :-)
>>>
>>>    "Satellite" or even "Sputnik" were a hell of a lot better,
>>>    but not FRENCH !
>>
>> What word is used for the Moon? It is a satellite.
> 
> 
>    But not a 'made thing' - natural - unless you
>    ask the UFO freaks ...

In Spanish and English both are satellites.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76759

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-10-27 21:23 +0000
Message-ID<10donsh$17dho$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76742
On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 10:09:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> In Spanish and English both are satellites.

In American they are “sadellites” ...

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#76761

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-28 00:47 +0100
Message-ID<atc5tlx4a7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76759
On 2025-10-27 22:23, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 10:09:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> In Spanish and English both are satellites.
> 
> In American they are “sadellites” ...

Huh? I don't get that one. :-?

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76762

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-10-28 00:27 +0000
Message-ID<10dp2m1$1ctkt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76761
On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 00:47:21 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2025-10-27 22:23, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 10:09:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> 
>>> In Spanish and English both are satellites.
>> 
>> In American they are “sadellites” ...
> 
> Huh? I don't get that one. :-?

Listen to them talk.

I wonder how they tell “waiting” from “wading” ... as in “I’ve been wading 
for you” ...

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#76770

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Message-ID<xw_LQ.170328$D_Tb.85077@fx47.iad>
In reply to#76762
On 2025-10-28, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 00:47:21 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> On 2025-10-27 22:23, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 10:09:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In Spanish and English both are satellites.
>>> 
>>> In American they are “sadellites” ...
>> 
>> Huh? I don't get that one. :-?
>
> Listen to them talk.
>
> I wonder how they tell “waiting” from “wading” ... as in “I’ve been wading 
> for you” ...

The difference is impordant.  :-)

And in the Barbie movie, the lead character sings "important"
with a glottal stop.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#76796

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-10-28 23:05 +0000
Message-ID<10dri7b$2gftl$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76770
On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 07:45:33 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> And in the Barbie movie, the lead character sings "important"
> with a glottal stop.

I’ve heard that in some 🇺🇸 speakers, too. It sounds ... Londonish.

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#76776 — Accents.

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-28 13:46 +0100
SubjectAccents.
Message-ID<mhq6tlx6o9.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76762
On 2025-10-28 01:27, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 00:47:21 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-10-27 22:23, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 10:09:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> In Spanish and English both are satellites.
>>>
>>> In American they are “sadellites” ...
>>
>> Huh? I don't get that one. :-?
> 
> Listen to them talk.
> 
> I wonder how they tell “waiting” from “wading” ... as in “I’ve been wading
> for you” ...

Ok :-D

I get it. :-)


I watched this weekend, maybe for the third time, the movie "Three 
Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri". It is surprising the different 
accents you can hear in the same area. The police chief: educated, 
cultivated, polite, soft spoken. Then his aide, xenophobic, violent.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76781 — Re: Accents.

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-28 18:47 +0000
SubjectRe: Accents.
Message-ID<mmchefFn64jU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76776
On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 13:46:14 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I watched this weekend, maybe for the third time, the movie "Three
> Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri". It is surprising the different
> accents you can hear in the same area. The police chief: educated,
> cultivated, polite, soft spoken. Then his aide, xenophobic, violent.

The Kiwi has strange ideas about American pronunciations. The regional 
accents are slowly dying as the kid's learn to talk like the guy on the 5 
o'clock news but they're still there. 

There are some odd effects. Older white speakers in northern Georgia have 
an accent I can barely understand. The black speakers in the same area 
tend to have a more uniform black accent that I'm used to. q.v. Kamela 
Harris' amusing accent shifts.

I can't hear it but I have an accent that people around here sometimes say 
is 'back east' from some indeterminate region. Even as a kid people would 
say my accent was different from where I grew up.

My downfall is British shows. Some are okay, some are very difficult for 
me to understand. After a while I sometimes can adapt. I do better with 
Australian shows for some reason. There was a rumor that the first 'Road 
Warrior' movie had to be dubbed for the US audience but I can't confirm 
it. 

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#76790 — Re: Accents.

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-10-28 20:21 +0000
SubjectRe: Accents.
Message-ID<TA9MQ.1269759$xYr1.690457@fx14.iad>
In reply to#76781
On 2025-10-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> My downfall is British shows. Some are okay, some are very difficult for 
> me to understand. After a while I sometimes can adapt.

Scottish accents (especially Glaswegian) must drive you nuts.

>                                                        I do better with 
> Australian shows for some reason. There was a rumor that the first 'Road 
> Warrior' movie had to be dubbed for the US audience but I can't confirm 
> it. 

    Oh, stewardess!  I speak jive.
      -- Airplane!

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#76794 — Re: Accents.

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-28 23:46 +0100
SubjectRe: Accents.
Message-ID<snt7tlx0b6.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76790
On 2025-10-28 21:21, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-10-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> My downfall is British shows. Some are okay, some are very difficult for
>> me to understand. After a while I sometimes can adapt.
> 
> Scottish accents (especially Glaswegian) must drive you nuts.

It does me :-D

> 
>>                                                         I do better with
>> Australian shows for some reason. There was a rumor that the first 'Road
>> Warrior' movie had to be dubbed for the US audience but I can't confirm
>> it.
> 
>      Oh, stewardess!  I speak jive.
>        -- Airplane!


Lost :-)


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76797 — Re: Accents.

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-29 01:41 +0000
SubjectRe: Accents.
Message-ID<mmd9mqFn64jU13@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76790
On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 20:21:07 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2025-10-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> My downfall is British shows. Some are okay, some are very difficult
>> for me to understand. After a while I sometimes can adapt.
> 
> Scottish accents (especially Glaswegian) must drive you nuts.

I saw 'Sexy Beast' in a theater and understood little except Kingsley's 
'fuck' which was a big part of his monologues. I thought it was me but as 
I left I overheard several couples wishing there were subtitles.

Then there was Ken Loach's 'The Navigators'.  Loach prides himself on 
authenticity which means you have to be a Yorkie to understand the 
dialogue. 

And 'Trainspotting'. I forget which one but one of the actors didn't have 
a Glaswegian accent and came up with one that was even worse. The best 
part of that was Kelly Macdonald. I recently watched the 'Dept. Q' series. 
I enjoyed that one and was glad it was renewed for next year.

It's mixed. Henshall in the 'Shetland' series was no problem.Some of the 
other characters were murkier. 

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#76804 — Re: Accents.

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-10-29 11:07 +0000
SubjectRe: Accents.
Message-ID<10dssh5$2rh6n$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76797
On 29/10/2025 01:41, rbowman wrote:
> And 'Trainspotting'. I forget which one but one of the actors didn't have
> a Glaswegian accent and came up with one that was even worse. The best
> part of that was Kelly Macdonald. I recently watched the 'Dept. Q' series.
> I enjoyed that one and was glad it was renewed for next year.

That (trainspotting) was a terrifyingly accurate movie.


-- 
"Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and 
higher education positively fortifies it."

    - Stephen Vizinczey

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#76810 — Re: Accents.

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
SubjectRe: Accents.
Message-ID<7jtMQ.876831$7Ika.50088@fx17.iad>
In reply to#76797
On 2025-10-29, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 20:21:07 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On 2025-10-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> My downfall is British shows. Some are okay, some are very difficult
>>> for me to understand. After a while I sometimes can adapt.
>> 
>> Scottish accents (especially Glaswegian) must drive you nuts.
>
> I saw 'Sexy Beast' in a theater and understood little except Kingsley's 
> 'fuck' which was a big part of his monologues. I thought it was me but as 
> I left I overheard several couples wishing there were subtitles.

I find myself turning on subtitles (when available) more and more
even for supposedly English speakers.

> Then there was Ken Loach's 'The Navigators'.  Loach prides himself on 
> authenticity which means you have to be a Yorkie to understand the 
> dialogue. 
>
> And 'Trainspotting'. I forget which one but one of the actors didn't have 
> a Glaswegian accent and came up with one that was even worse. The best 
> part of that was Kelly Macdonald. I recently watched the 'Dept. Q' series. 
> I enjoyed that one and was glad it was renewed for next year.
>
> It's mixed. Henshall in the 'Shetland' series was no problem.Some of the 
> other characters were murkier. 

When we visited Scotland I noticed that the farther north you went
the less pronounced the accents were.  My brother-in-law is Glaswegian
so I have a leg up there.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#76811 — Re: Accents.

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-10-29 22:15 +0000
SubjectRe: Accents.
Message-ID<10du3ld$3845i$11@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76810
On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 18:47:31 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> When we visited Scotland I noticed that the farther north you went
> the less pronounced the accents were.

You mean, the accent was more what you were used to.

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