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AI-Based Coding Taking Over

Started byc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
First post2025-09-30 00:12 -0400
Last post2025-11-03 14:14 +0000
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  AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400
    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 09:37 +0200
      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:21 +0200
      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:35 +0100
        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:45 +0000
      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:41 +0000
      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:44 +0000
        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 23:46 +0000
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:05 +0000
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:06 +0000
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 04:57 +0000
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:41 -0400
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:40 -0400
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-10 18:00 +0000
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:41 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-11 11:00 +0100
                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:39 +0000
                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:31 -0400
                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:09 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:03 +0000
                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:28 -0400
                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:04 +0100
                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:40 +0000
                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:24 -0400
                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:19 +0100
                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-13 19:05 +0000
                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:24 -0400
                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 07:09 +0000
                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:35 -0400
                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0200
                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0100
                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:06 +0200
                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 11:32 +0100
                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:45 +0200
                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 22:05 +0000
                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 14:30 +0200
                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 21:47 +0000
                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:41 +0000
                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:30 -0400
                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 16:57 +0000
                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:31 +0000
                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-16 18:43 +0000
                                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 18:59 +0000
                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-16 13:43 -0700
                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 02:02 +0000
                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-17 07:58 -0400
                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-17 17:38 +0100
                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 22:16 +0000
                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-18 08:53 -0400
                                                              Bikes [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:02 +0200
                                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-18 19:51 +0000
                                                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 22:55 +0200
                                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:32 +0000
                                                                    Nuisance fauna [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:31 +0200
                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-19 08:41 +0100
                                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:15 +0100
                                                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:57 +0000
                                                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 00:23 -0400
                                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:44 +0000
                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 03:32 -0400
                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:34 +0200
                                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 23:22 -0400
                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-21 08:54 +0100
                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:22 +0200
                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:45 +0000
                                                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:21 -0400
                                                                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:07 +0200
                                                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:05 +0000
                                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:42 +0200
                                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:11 +0100
                                                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:47 +0000
                                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:45 +0000
                                                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:47 +0100
                                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:46 +0000
                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 08:19 +0100
                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:05 +0000
                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:50 -0400
                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:32 +0100
                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 20:12 +0000
                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 11:53 -0700
                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:32 +0000
                                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 21:52 -0700
                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:44 -0400
                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:34 +0000
                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:41 -0400
                                                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:40 +0000
                                                                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:23 -0400
                                                                                  Oil leaks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:13 +0200
                                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:29 +0200
                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:43 +0000
                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-20 20:48 +0000
                                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 04:10 +0000
                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:39 -0400
                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:02 +0000
                                                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:48 -0400
                                                                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:02 +0000
                                                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:34 -0400
                                                                                    Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:30 +0200
                                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-22 18:03 +0000
                                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:51 +0000
                                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:54 +0200
                                                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:26 +0200
                                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:00 +0000
                                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-23 04:01 +0000
                                                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:27 +0000
                                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:59 -0700
                                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 04:47 +0000
                                                                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 22:09 -0700
                                                                                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:23 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 20:51 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:58 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:00 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 22:19 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:48 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-27 03:12 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:15 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:20 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 02:54 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:23 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:45 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-27 03:07 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 14:26 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 14:31 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 20:41 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-27 14:17 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 05:40 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:18 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:19 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:08 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-27 22:30 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-28 11:25 -0700
                                                                                                              The Good Ol' Days of Computing? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:15 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-29 02:12 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 08:43 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-29 21:30 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 03:07 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 00:49 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 06:29 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 07:00 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 11:32 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:39 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 11:29 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:37 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 04:01 +0000
                                                                                                          Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:21 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 16:53 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-27 13:48 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 20:53 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 13:56 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:30 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 08:15 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:44 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 12:51 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 15:39 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 02:14 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:52 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:37 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-27 10:18 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-27 13:42 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:18 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 19:28 +0100
                                                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-10-24 03:30 +0000
                                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:44 +0000
                                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:21 +0200
                                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:57 +0200
                                                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:23 +0000
                                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:35 +0200
                                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:30 +0000
                                                                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:13 +0200
                                                                                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:38 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:17 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:40 +0000
                                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:29 -0400
                                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:59 +0200
                                                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:20 +0000
                                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 19:09 -0700
                                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:49 +0000
                                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:38 +0200
                                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:41 +0000
                                                                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 13:05 -0700
                                                                                              Agriculture "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:25 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Agriculture rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:22 +0000
                                                                                Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:21 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:14 +0000
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                                                                                      Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:01 +0000
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                                                                                          Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:40 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 21:22 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 01:54 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:20 +0200
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                                                                                    Re: Vehicles The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 08:55 +0100
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                                                                                        Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 17:46 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:08 +0000
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                                                                                        Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:51 -0400
                                                                                          Pouring a coffee into a street drain. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 09:59 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Pouring a coffee into a street drain. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:43 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:45 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:06 +0000
                                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 00:32 -0400
                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 23:18 -0400
                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:50 +0000
                                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:40 +0000
                                                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-19 14:24 -0700
                                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 06:04 +0000
                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:48 +0200
                                                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:52 +0000
                                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 01:02 +0200
                                                                          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:39 +0000
                                                                            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:33 -0400
                                                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:33 +0200
                                                                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:37 -0400
                                                                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:12 +0000
                                                                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:38 -0400
                                                                                    Vehicles. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:35 +0200
                                                                              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:42 +0000
                                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 17:36 +0000
                                        Car inspections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 14:35 +0200
                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 21:38 -0400
                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 19:12 +0000
                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-15 11:55 +0100
                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-10-16 03:07 +0000
                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:56 -0400
                                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 21:06 -0400
                                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-15 11:59 +0100
                                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:00 -0400
                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:29 +0000
                                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-16 11:22 +0100
                                        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:34 -0400
        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 18:11 +0100
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 21:06 +0000
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 23:45 +0100
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 22:19 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-02 11:15 +0100
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:59 -0400
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 06:20 +0000
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-02 03:05 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:41 +0000
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-02 07:26 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:37 +0000
                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:29 -0400
                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 05:06 +0000
                      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:24 -0400
                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2025-10-03 11:33 +0000
                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:46 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:25 -0400
                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 04:44 +0000
                    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:18 -0400
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:42 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 21:05 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:35 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:37 -0400
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 08:54 +0100
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 10:02 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:41 +0000
                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:24 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:21 -0400
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:20 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-04 17:04 +0000
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-03 08:03 +1000
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 22:55 +0000
      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:06 -0400
        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-01 20:26 +0000
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:58 -0400
    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-09-30 11:25 +0000
      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 12:56 +0100
        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:48 -0400
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:36 -0400
      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:16 -0400
    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-10-31 16:52 +0000
      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:19 +0000
        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-31 22:35 -0400
        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:19 +0000
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-01 17:32 +0000
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:09 -0400
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:09 +0000
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:28 +0000
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:17 +0000
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-11-03 07:52 +1000
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-02 22:21 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-11-03 09:30 +1000
                  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-03 14:14 +0000

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#76787 — Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over)

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2025-10-28 12:51 -0700
SubjectRe: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over)
Message-ID<20251028125150.00002055@gmail.com>
In reply to#76778
On 28 Oct 2025 15:43:25 GMT
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote:

>   I owned a Korg MS-20 and a Korg PS-3100.

Oh, nice =^_^= Have never gotten my hands on the PS-series instruments,
but I'm a fan of the MS-20; picked up the mini reissue back when they
first came out and traded up to a full-size unit a couple years ago.
Highly distinctive tone, but quite versatile.

>   I use MIDI software to translate melodies from my head to sheet
>   notation, so that I can then check them and finally convert them
>   to ASCII, like, can you guess the name of this song (notation only
>   approximately!)?

Hah, that rings a vague bell, but I can't place it. I'm curious, what
do you use the ASCII representations for...?

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#76792 — Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over)

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2025-10-28 15:39 -0700
SubjectRe: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over)
Message-ID<20251028153900.00007752@gmail.com>
In reply to#76787
On 28 Oct 2025 20:04:49 GMT
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote:

> >Hah, that rings a vague bell, but I can't place it. I'm curious, what
> >do you use the ASCII representations for...?  
> 
> I used the ASCII representation in a German newsgroup to ask for the
> name of the song trying to avoid media disruptions like web links in
> Usenet posts or binaries in a non-binary group.

Interesting. I generally notate melodies on my "sketchpad" documents
with note names and a few simple conventions for rhythmic information:

G-G G E-G C' C

...which is imprecise, but it's for my own reference so it's non-
critical.

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#76800 — Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over)

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-29 02:14 +0000
SubjectRe: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over)
Message-ID<mmdbjrFn64jU16@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76792
On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 15:39:00 -0700, John Ames wrote:

> Interesting. I generally notate melodies on my "sketchpad" documents
> with note names and a few simple conventions for rhythmic information:
> 
> G-G G E-G C' C
> 
> ...which is imprecise, but it's for my own reference so it's non-
> critical.

https://www.irish-folk-songs.com/the-fields-of-athenry-sheet-music-and-tin-whistle-notes.html

I got his original book as well as the pdf collections. Usually he doesn't have notation for everything under the sun. I don't think I've ever see the flute finger tabs before. 

A lot of the tin whistle music uses D E D G.... This one has a bold font for the upper register. Some people use lower case.  C is ambiguous since you can either finger C or C# depending on if you're in D or G. Left to the user to figure out if a key isn't given.

I've gotten fairly adept at going from the finger tab to the guitar or banjo.  The tabs almost work for the Boehm flute but you have to remember it's a F#.

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#76799 — Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over)

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-29 01:52 +0000
SubjectRe: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over)
Message-ID<mmdaa0Fn64jU15@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76787
On 28 Oct 2025 20:04:49 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote:

>   Turned out it's, "I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39dJptQV_Jc

That's 2:15 I'll never get back.

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#76785 — Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over)

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-28 19:37 +0000
SubjectRe: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over)
Message-ID<mmckcjFn64jU8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76775
On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 06:30:27 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> There's a shit-ton of software synthesizer apps for Linux,
> Windows, and Mac. But I do have the following hardware:

My hardware collection:

https://www.zoom.co.jp/products/effects-preamps/guitar/zoom-9000-advanced-
guitar-effects-processor

The early '90s are calling. Coupled with a Charvel guitar and phones I 
could amuse myself during downtime when I was trucking. The Zoom was 
heavily hyped at the time. It was the cheaper, portable version of the 
9030 rack mount. I still mess with it when I want to revisit cheezy '80s 
effects.

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#76767 — Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over)

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
SubjectRe: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over)
Message-ID<uw_LQ.170325$D_Tb.37506@fx47.iad>
In reply to#76755
On 2025-10-27, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> Says something about me that I've never done anything with MIDI or had any 
> interest in it. otoh, lemme see, I've got 3 acoustic guitars, one of which 
> is a 12 string, 2 electric guitars, a banjo, a silver flute, a couple of 
> Irish flutes, a bunch of tin whistles in various keys, several harmonicas 
> in different keys, an alto recorder, and an ocarina. Never did figure out 
> the ocarina.  Should have went with MIDI; like e-books it takes a lot less 
> room.

I briefly played with a MIDI interface to our electronic piano.
That was my incentive to upgrade my emulated Windows machine
from 2K to XP - the 2K MIDI-to-USB driver would crash instantly.

That was quite a brief experiment, since I never found the
time to study piano.  My violin, viola, and mandolin all
lack MIDI; ditto for my wife's cello.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#76750

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2025-10-27 10:18 -0700
Message-ID<10do9h8$11sns$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76744

On 10/27/25 07:26, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 03:07:24 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
> 
>> I found the 5150 to be a massive yawn.  It wasn't until the Amiga came
>> along that I got excited enough to buy a new machine.
> 
> In that era people would ask me 'You work with computers.' What kind
> should I buy?' I didn't have a good answer. I made my living with
> computers but I wasn't sure what Joe Sixpack would do with one.
> 
> Some nerds did find uses but there were many TRS-80s, PETs, PC Jrs, TI
> 99s, and so forth gathering dust because people were buying them in sort
> of a madness of crowds.
> 

	I read as much as I could and decided for a Commodore 64.
I wanted a machine IL could do word processing on and that is just
what I got.
	
	It messed up my CRT TV though putting horizontal but tilted lines
across the screen that would not go away.  So I spent  another $100
on a monochome Gorilla Monitor. Later I would add an 80 column card.

	Later all my computing 8 bit toys would be paid for by a man who
had neglected his filings and I had to take care of several years of check
book entries.

	bliss

	bliss-

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#76751

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-10-27 13:42 -0400
Message-ID<10doaur$11mbi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76744
rbowman wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:

> On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 03:07:24 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> I found the 5150 to be a massive yawn.  It wasn't until the Amiga came
>> along that I got excited enough to buy a new machine.
>
> In that era people would ask me 'You work with computers.' What kind 
> should I buy?' I didn't have a good answer. I made my living with 
> computers but I wasn't sure what Joe Sixpack would do with one.
>
> Some nerds did find uses but there were many TRS-80s, PETs, PC Jrs, TI 
> 99s, and so forth gathering dust because people were buying them in sort 
> of a madness of crowds.

I remember Isaac Asimov endorsing the TRS-80; he got tutored on it
by a Radio Shack employee, grew to trust it, and appeared in a
Radio Shack ad. Also for the TRS-80 "Pocket computer" (a Sharp
PC-1211) and some other TRS models.

I also remember B. B. King endorsing the Atari ST, and
then, later, the Commodore Amiga.

    <https://www.ebay.com/itm/384284474902>    (Atari)

    B.B. KING LOVES MIDI

    <https://8bitlegends.com/2015/05/16/b-b-king-mr-amiga-blues-has-flown/>

    BB also plays chess on this Amiga!

:-D

-- 
bozone, n.:
	The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas
from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign
of breaking down in the near future.

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#76758

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-27 21:18 +0000
Message-ID<mma5ttFb82dU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76751
On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 13:42:51 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>     B.B. KING LOVES MIDI
> 
>     <https://8bitlegends.com/2015/05/16/b-b-king-mr-amiga-blues-has-
flown/>

He would... He never could keep time. My favorite blues guy, Lightnin' 
Hopkins could keep a steady beat but the concept of 12 bar blues was 
foreign territory. A bar was as long as it needed to be. He was a street 
musician and a solo act.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byUsulKVyn8

Bald Headed Woman by Lightnin' Hopkins

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#76771

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Message-ID<xw_LQ.170329$D_Tb.145509@fx47.iad>
In reply to#76758
On 2025-10-27, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 13:42:51 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>>     B.B. KING LOVES MIDI
>> 
>>     <https://8bitlegends.com/2015/05/16/b-b-king-mr-amiga-blues-has-
> flown/>
>
> He would... He never could keep time. My favorite blues guy, Lightnin' 
> Hopkins could keep a steady beat but the concept of 12 bar blues was 
> foreign territory. A bar was as long as it needed to be. He was a street 
> musician and a solo act.

Reminds me of some of those sadistic baroque composers who insist
on writing in 4/4 instead of 2/4 so they can have half their phrases
start in the middle of a measure.  I've re-typeset some pieces so
that I can read them...

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#76753

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-27 19:28 +0100
Message-ID<f7q4tlxm34.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76744
On 2025-10-27 15:26, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 03:07:24 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
> 
>> I found the 5150 to be a massive yawn.  It wasn't until the Amiga came
>> along that I got excited enough to buy a new machine.
> 
> In that era people would ask me 'You work with computers.' What kind
> should I buy?' I didn't have a good answer. I made my living with
> computers but I wasn't sure what Joe Sixpack would do with one.
> 
> Some nerds did find uses but there were many TRS-80s, PETs, PC Jrs, TI
> 99s, and so forth gathering dust because people were buying them in sort
> of a madness of crowds.
> 

I remember going a few years to the big show of SIMO in Madrid:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIMO_TCI

SIMO TCI was a computer expo held every November in Madrid, Spain from 
1961 to 2013. Its name stands for Salón Internacional de Mobiliario de 
Oficina / Tecnologías de la Comunicación e Información (International 
Trade Fair of Office Furniture / Information and Communication 
Technologies), due to its origin. From 1991, it took place in Madrid's 
Exhibition Centre IFEMA.


I went around the stands trying to find a computer that would jump at me 
and say HEY, look at me, I am what you want!  Not literally, but I mean, 
finding something that would be really a personal computer. And 
affordable, I was a student.




-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76611

FromRobert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net>
Date2025-10-24 03:30 +0000
Message-ID<slrn10flsn3.f7.spamtrap42@one.localnet>
In reply to#76561
On 2025-10-23, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-10-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>
>> They are a vanishing device. Most people around here have went to large 
>> round bales. They are a lot less work both in making hay and in feeding it 
>> out. They can be mechanically loaded on a standard flatbed rather than 
>> dealing with a lot of little square bales.
>
> The large round bales have pretty much taken over up here in B.C. too.
> Often they're wrapped in plastic before being picked up; the machine
> that does that is pretty impressive to watch.
>
> ...

Are you referring to those enormous marshmallows sometimes
visible in farm fields when driving down the freeway?  :-)

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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#76615

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-24 05:44 +0000
Message-ID<mm0i13Fm6jsU9@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76611
On 24 Oct 2025 03:30:43 GMT, Robert Riches wrote:

> On 2025-10-23, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2025-10-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>
>>> They are a vanishing device. Most people around here have went to
>>> large round bales. They are a lot less work both in making hay and in
>>> feeding it out. They can be mechanically loaded on a standard flatbed
>>> rather than dealing with a lot of little square bales.
>>
>> The large round bales have pretty much taken over up here in B.C. too.
>> Often they're wrapped in plastic before being picked up; the machine
>> that does that is pretty impressive to watch.
>>
>> ...
> 
> Are you referring to those enormous marshmallows sometimes visible in
> farm fields when driving down the freeway?  :-)

https://www.istockphoto.com/photos/hay-bale

If you want a truly enormous marshmallow find someone using a beaverslide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaverslide

The write up is a little misleading. The buckrake is in front of the 
horses, not being pulled by them like most farm implements. The harnessing 
is interesting. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdYDMr6q84g


The Grant-Kohrs Ranch is a National Historic Site and they usually have an 
open house at the end of the summer when they're putting the hay up.

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#76620

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-24 10:21 +0200
Message-ID<dgprslx06j.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76615
On 2025-10-24 07:44, rbowman wrote:
> On 24 Oct 2025 03:30:43 GMT, Robert Riches wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-10-23, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2025-10-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are a vanishing device. Most people around here have went to
>>>> large round bales. They are a lot less work both in making hay and in
>>>> feeding it out. They can be mechanically loaded on a standard flatbed
>>>> rather than dealing with a lot of little square bales.
>>>
>>> The large round bales have pretty much taken over up here in B.C. too.
>>> Often they're wrapped in plastic before being picked up; the machine
>>> that does that is pretty impressive to watch.
>>>
>>> ...
>>
>> Are you referring to those enormous marshmallows sometimes visible in
>> farm fields when driving down the freeway?  :-)
> 
> https://www.istockphoto.com/photos/hay-bale
> 
> If you want a truly enormous marshmallow find someone using a beaverslide.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaverslide
> 
> The write up is a little misleading. The buckrake is in front of the
> horses, not being pulled by them like most farm implements. The harnessing
> is interesting.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdYDMr6q84g

That's a curious machine :-)

> The Grant-Kohrs Ranch is a National Historic Site and they usually have an
> open house at the end of the summer when they're putting the hay up.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76580

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-23 14:57 +0200
Message-ID<8blpslxujb.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76549
On 2025-10-22 23:00, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:26:32 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-10-22 08:02, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:48:54 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>      It is surprisingly difficult to spot a slow or stationary vehicle
>>>>      while driving. The perspective does not change much until you're
>>>>      RIGHT up on the damned thing. MANY nasty accidents result.
>>>
>>> Any vehicle that can't do at least 25 is supposed to have a big slow
>>> vehicle triangle on the back. Always fun to get stuck behind a Harobed.
>>>
>>> https://www.loc.gov/item/ncr002399/
>>
>> Fascinating. I don't think I have ever seen one.
>>
>> ...
> 
> They are a vanishing device. Most people around here have went to large
> round bales. They are a lot less work both in making hay and in feeding it
> out. They can be mechanically loaded on a standard flatbed rather than
> dealing with a lot of little square bales.
> 
> I've seen all sides of square bales, both bucking them onto a flatbed in
> the field, stacking them in the barn, loading them onto a pickup to feed
> the stock, and riding the back of a pickup in sub zero weather, cutting
> bales and tossing them off the back. Lot of work all around.

It is square bales here, I see them sometimes in the fields, sometimes 
piled up high in a barn. I just don't remember seeing the machine that 
piles them up.

I have seen the round ones in Canada.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76600

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-23 20:23 +0000
Message-ID<mlvh6rFgc64U13@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76580
On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 14:57:44 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> It is square bales here, I see them sometimes in the fields, sometimes
> piled up high in a barn. I just don't remember seeing the machine that
> piles them up.

Unfortunately several other people and myself were that machines that 
piled them... A Harobed could put a row in place but we didn't have one.

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#76621

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-24 10:35 +0200
Message-ID<jbqrslx3km.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76600
On 2025-10-23 22:23, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 14:57:44 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> It is square bales here, I see them sometimes in the fields, sometimes
>> piled up high in a barn. I just don't remember seeing the machine that
>> piles them up.
> 
> Unfortunately several other people and myself were that machines that
> piled them... A Harobed could put a row in place but we didn't have one.

Not fun.


I visited my mother's village for a summer. The place lived from 
agriculture, but not cows in sight. Small survival plots. The straw was 
kept inside barns, it rained.


See this mute video, how they separated the grain from the straw. There 
is a pile of straw in the back.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkicw9W4poQ>


"La trilla" is a wooden board with stones stuck beneath, pulled by a 
mule or a horse.

This other video, you can see how they build it (subttitles available):

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAU64G6GnJo>

short version:

<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7HF9-Oh1hM8>

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76638

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-24 19:30 +0000
Message-ID<mm22dsFtktmU11@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76621
On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:35:31 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2025-10-23 22:23, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 14:57:44 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> 
>>> It is square bales here, I see them sometimes in the fields, sometimes
>>> piled up high in a barn. I just don't remember seeing the machine that
>>> piles them up.
>> 
>> Unfortunately several other people and myself were that machines that
>> piled them... A Harobed could put a row in place but we didn't have
>> one.
> 
> Not fun.
> 
> 
> I visited my mother's village for a summer. The place lived from
> agriculture, but not cows in sight. Small survival plots. The straw was
> kept inside barns, it rained.
> 
> 
> See this mute video, how they separated the grain from the straw. There
> is a pile of straw in the back.
> 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkicw9W4poQ>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combine_harvester

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqg7QfnDCDs

The state grows a lot of wheat but baling straw is a sideline. A lot of 
wheat growers just plow it under. Hay is a major crop though. This part of 
the state isn't suitable for wheat but there is a lot of hay. Generally 
they get two cuttings a year.

https://www.americasheartland.org/state/montana/

Alfalfa hay fetches about $30 a ton over grass hay. Like any other 
commodity the price fluctuates quite a bit. I think alfalfa is $125 / ton 
currently. It's not the most lucrative crop but in farming you grow what 
you can grow.






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#76644

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-10-24 22:13 +0200
Message-ID<p73tslx4no.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#76638
On 2025-10-24 21:30, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:35:31 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-10-23 22:23, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 14:57:44 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is square bales here, I see them sometimes in the fields, sometimes
>>>> piled up high in a barn. I just don't remember seeing the machine that
>>>> piles them up.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately several other people and myself were that machines that
>>> piled them... A Harobed could put a row in place but we didn't have
>>> one.
>>
>> Not fun.
>>
>>
>> I visited my mother's village for a summer. The place lived from
>> agriculture, but not cows in sight. Small survival plots. The straw was
>> kept inside barns, it rained.
>>
>>
>> See this mute video, how they separated the grain from the straw. There
>> is a pile of straw in the back.
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkicw9W4poQ>
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combine_harvester

Of course. But at places like that village that was impossible, the 
plots were too small. It comes from dividing the inheritance between 
your sons, and they marrying and geting another plot(s) from wife, 
generation after generation, for centuries. Plus, it is a valley and 
there are mountains, no much flat land.

It is, was, survival agriculture, they cultivated what they could 
directly eat. No selling. They did not have money. They paid the doctor 
with eggs!

> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqg7QfnDCDs
> 
> The state grows a lot of wheat but baling straw is a sideline. A lot of
> wheat growers just plow it under. Hay is a major crop though. This part of
> the state isn't suitable for wheat but there is a lot of hay. Generally
> they get two cuttings a year.
> 
> https://www.americasheartland.org/state/montana/
> 
> Alfalfa hay fetches about $30 a ton over grass hay. Like any other
> commodity the price fluctuates quite a bit. I think alfalfa is $125 / ton
> currently. It's not the most lucrative crop but in farming you grow what
> you can grow.

I imagine :-)

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#76654

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-25 02:38 +0000
Message-ID<mm2rhgF2uhpU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76644
On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 22:13:13 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Of course. But at places like that village that was impossible, the
> plots were too small. It comes from dividing the inheritance between
> your sons, and they marrying and geting another plot(s) from wife,
> generation after generation, for centuries. Plus, it is a valley and
> there are mountains, no much flat land.
> 
> It is, was, survival agriculture, they cultivated what they could
> directly eat. No selling. They did not have money. They paid the doctor
> with eggs!

The US motto is 'get big or get out'. Family farms have mostly been bought 
up and consolidated by agribusiness that can afford the technology. Where 
I grew up was dairy country. Almost all my friends who grew up on farms 
sold the herds during a government buyback in the '80s. They were working 
factory jobs to keep the farm afloat and saw a way out. 80 acres with 
maybe 50 happy cows wandering around didn't cut it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendell_Berry

Berry has written a lot of nonfiction but I like his Port William stories. 
It makes me nostalgic for a place that is no more and isn't coming back. 
Maybe they can build a data center in Port William.

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