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Framework Steps Into It

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First post2025-10-15 21:39 +0000
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  Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:39 +0000
    Re: Framework Steps Into It Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-16 21:37 +0200
      Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 01:52 +0000
    Re: Framework Steps Into It Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-17 21:08 +0000
      Re: Framework Steps Into It Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-18 08:20 +0200
        Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-18 06:33 +0000
          Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-18 19:40 +0000
          Re: Framework Steps Into It Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-22 06:41 +0200
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-22 21:46 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-10-25 12:52 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 16:46 +0100
      Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-18 10:37 +0100
      Re: Framework Steps Into It Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-10-19 21:19 +0000
        Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-20 17:05 +0100
        Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-21 12:00 +0000
          Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-21 13:37 +0100
            Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-21 15:37 +0100
            Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:26 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:35 +0100
              Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-22 14:34 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:41 +0000
                  Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-22 15:18 -0700
                    Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 08:57 +0100
                    Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:16 +0000
                      Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:30 -0700
                        Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:28 +0000
                          Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 23:09 -0700
                            Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:50 +0000
                        Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:13 +0100
                          Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-24 10:25 +0100
                            Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 11:51 +0100
                              Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-24 17:06 +0100
                              Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:02 +0000
                                Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:38 +0100
                          Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:54 +0000
                          Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 21:09 +0000
                            Re: Framework Steps Into It Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-10-25 10:45 +0200
                              Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:43 +0100
                  Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-23 08:54 +0100
              Re: Framework Steps Into It Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-22 18:03 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:38 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-21 22:55 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-22 14:15 +0100
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-22 21:48 +0000
                  Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-23 09:12 +0100
                    Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-23 10:11 +0000
                      Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:10 +0000
                    Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-23 21:00 +0000
                      Re: Framework Steps Into It Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-24 09:44 +0100
                        Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 20:42 +0000
                          Re: Framework Steps Into It Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-24 23:01 +0000
                            Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-25 01:05 +0000
            Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:31 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 12:51 +0100
              Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-23 00:08 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-23 04:01 +0000
                Re: Framework Steps Into It Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2025-10-23 10:09 +0000
                  Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 09:59 -0700
                    Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 18:55 +0100
                    Re: Framework Steps Into It "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@dev.null> - 2025-10-23 13:29 -0500
                      Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:14 +0000
                      Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:47 -0700
                        Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:14 +0100
                          Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:44 +0000
                            Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 12:55 -0700
                              Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:05 +0000
                                Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 21:45 -0700
                                  Re: Framework Steps Into It "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:06 +0200
                                  Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:55 +0000
                                    Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-25 14:45 -0700
                                      Re: Framework Steps Into It Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 01:37 +0100
                                        Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-25 21:01 -0700
                                      Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 02:10 +0000
                                        Re: Framework Steps Into It Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-25 21:13 -0700
                                          Re: Framework Steps Into It rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 07:22 +0000
                          Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-24 20:43 +0000
                  Re: Framework Steps Into It Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-23 21:03 +0000
              Re: Framework Steps Into It c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:08 -0400
          Re: Framework Steps Into It The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-21 15:33 +0100

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#76547

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-22 20:41 +0000
Message-ID<mlstruF3gmnU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76535
On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:34:43 +0100, Pancho wrote:


> Personally, I think they are right. I think there is something wrong
> with our current political system. Big money/lobbying has too much
> influence. Free speech is being stifled.

I can agree with that. However the No Kings thing is also sponsored by big 
money that I want no part of. 

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#76555

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2025-10-22 15:18 -0700
Message-ID<10dbl7c$ujr8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76547

On 10/22/25 13:41, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:34:43 +0100, Pancho wrote:
> 
> 
>> Personally, I think they are right. I think there is something wrong
>> with our current political system. Big money/lobbying has too much
>> influence. Free speech is being stifled.
> 
> I can agree with that. However the No Kings thing is also sponsored by big
> money that I want no part of.

	What big money is that?
	What is wrong with the government is that while the founders and writers
  of the Constitution were ethical white men of that time they failed to 
consider
  that parties which would send felons to high office would exist.
	The Constitution must be amended to provide protection against such
events in the future.

	A man not owning a home who seeks no building permit but hires a firm
  and set them to work to demolish half of the building to make was for his
  very large ballroom.
	That ballroom by the way has been panned by critics already.
	Some have said the next President will have to tear it down.  If it is 
built
then we should find some use for it.  He has already destroyed lovely
details of the East Wing.
	But he disregards the laws concerning such projects as he did the proper
sums on financial reports.
	
	bliss

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#76572

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-10-23 08:57 +0100
Message-ID<10dcn5j$1fbq0$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76555
On 22/10/2025 23:18, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/22/25 13:41, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:34:43 +0100, Pancho wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Personally, I think they are right. I think there is something wrong
>>> with our current political system. Big money/lobbying has too much
>>> influence. Free speech is being stifled.
>>
>> I can agree with that. However the No Kings thing is also sponsored by 
>> big
>> money that I want no part of.
> 
>      What big money is that?
>      What is wrong with the government is that while the founders and 
> writers
>   of the Constitution were ethical white men of that time they failed to 
> consider
>   that parties which would send felons to high office would exist.
>      The Constitution must be amended to provide protection against such
> events in the future.
> 
>      A man not owning a home who seeks no building permit but hires a firm
>   and set them to work to demolish half of the building to make was for his
>   very large ballroom.
>      That ballroom by the way has been panned by critics already.
>      Some have said the next President will have to tear it down.  If it 
> is built
> then we should find some use for it.  He has already destroyed lovely
> details of the East Wing.
>      But he disregards the laws concerning such projects as he did the 
> proper
> sums on financial reports.
> 
>      bliss
> 
Just because Donald is a cunt doesn't mean that the democrats are angels

-- 
“People believe certain stories because everyone important tells them, 
and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them. 
Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, one’s 
agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of 
one’s suitability to be taken seriously.”

Paul Krugman

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#76598

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-23 20:16 +0000
Message-ID<mlvgoeFgc64U11@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76555
On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 15:18:20 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


> 
> On 10/22/25 13:41, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:34:43 +0100, Pancho wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Personally, I think they are right. I think there is something wrong
>>> with our current political system. Big money/lobbying has too much
>>> influence. Free speech is being stifled.
>> 
>> I can agree with that. However the No Kings thing is also sponsored by
>> big money that I want no part of.
> 
> 	What big money is that?

Are you naive enough to think Indivisible runs on school kid's dimes and 
quarters? 

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#76610

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2025-10-23 20:30 -0700
Message-ID<10dersj$2aq7j$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76598

On 10/23/25 13:16, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 15:18:20 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> 
> 
>>
>> On 10/22/25 13:41, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:34:43 +0100, Pancho wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Personally, I think they are right. I think there is something wrong
>>>> with our current political system. Big money/lobbying has too much
>>>> influence. Free speech is being stifled.
>>>
>>> I can agree with that. However the No Kings thing is also sponsored by
>>> big money that I want no part of.
>>
>> 	What big money is that?
> 
> Are you naive enough to think Indivisible runs on school kid's dimes and
> quarters?

	I don't know anything about the finances of the majority of the
organizations and individuals seeking office except that they are working
on bad information when they solicit me, which included DJT which
came with the opportunity to tell him what I think of his behavior in
no uncertain terms.

	Again if you are going to make remarks like "big money: it seems
you should provide some real information rather then simply saying it is so.
	
	bliss - well when the FBI straightens its priorities they might be coming
to take me away.  Ha, Ha, HO, Ho to the prison dark or the dungeon deep.
When I drop dead in their custody they will wish they had left me alone.


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#76614

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-24 05:28 +0000
Message-ID<mm0h4gFm6jsU8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76610
On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 20:30:25 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

> 	Again if you are going to make remarks like "big money: it seems
> you should provide some real information rather then simply saying it is
> so.

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/indivisible-
action/C00678839/donors/2024

Indivisible gave 2 million to itself. Okay. It probably would be easier to 
unravel the finances of the Sinaloa Cartel that to trace the dark money 
back.

Indivisible is only one of the many No Kings 'partners' that inspire the 
useful idiots to take part in their highly coordinated 'grassroots' 
protests.

What a fucking basket of deplorables, to use Madame Pantsuit's terms.

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#76617

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2025-10-23 23:09 -0700
Message-ID<10df57k$2d8kq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76614

On 10/23/25 22:28, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 20:30:25 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> 
>> 	Again if you are going to make remarks like "big money: it seems
>> you should provide some real information rather then simply saying it is
>> so.
> 
> https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/indivisible-
> action/C00678839/donors/2024
> 
> Indivisible gave 2 million to itself. Okay. It probably would be easier to
> unravel the finances of the Sinaloa Cartel that to trace the dark money
> back.
> 
> Indivisible is only one of the many No Kings 'partners' that inspire the
> useful idiots to take part in their highly coordinated 'grassroots'
> protests.
> 
> What a fucking basket of deplorables, to use Madame Pantsuit's terms.

	Less deplorable than a man like Mr.Trump criming all over the place as 
he attempts to destroy the Federal Government by de-funding agencies to 
whom he has almost deliberately appointed incompetents.  The Secretary 
of State Rubio(?) seems competent
but the rest are simply the wrong people in the wrong place and in the 
case of Hedseth
the worst man for the job it seems.
	I cannot go out and March as I did in my youth or I would have been out
there at the "No Kings Rally" and if you believe in the US Founding you 
would have
been there too.
	We have a weak Congress and a President who arrogates to himself the Power
of the Purse, re-directing the funding of agencies and setting up a 
national police
force in ICE with very little accountability.
	Now he is suing the USA for investigations conducted in the past into
his affairs and connection to slimy Putin. For a big slice of the Tax Payers
cash.  Less than a quarter of a billion dollars and cheap at the price 
of the
decision put in the hands of his former defense lawyers.
	
	Executive Orders generally do not have the force of law but he is using 
them as if they were law.

	bliss - United State of Anarchy is what they want, free to deal with 
the poor
and the working class as they please.

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#76634

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-24 18:50 +0000
Message-ID<mm204dFtktmU8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76617
On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 23:09:53 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

> 	I cannot go out and March as I did in my youth or I would have 
been out
> there at the "No Kings Rally" and if you believe in the US Founding you
> would have been there too.

I didn't march in my youth (except in the military) and I sure as hell am 
not marching with that passel of assholes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv1KEF8Uw2k

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#76626

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-10-24 10:13 +0100
Message-ID<10dfg09$2fq9e$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76610
On 24/10/2025 04:30, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/23/25 13:16, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 15:18:20 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 10/22/25 13:41, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:34:43 +0100, Pancho wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I think they are right. I think there is something wrong
>>>>> with our current political system. Big money/lobbying has too much
>>>>> influence. Free speech is being stifled.
>>>>
>>>> I can agree with that. However the No Kings thing is also sponsored by
>>>> big money that I want no part of.
>>>
>>>     What big money is that?
>>
>> Are you naive enough to think Indivisible runs on school kid's dimes and
>> quarters?
> 
>      I don't know anything about the finances of the majority of the
> organizations and individuals seeking office except that they are working
> on bad information when they solicit me, which included DJT which
> came with the opportunity to tell him what I think of his behavior in
> no uncertain terms.
> 
>      Again if you are going to make remarks like "big money: it seems
> you should provide some real information rather then simply saying it is 
> so.
> 
>      bliss - well when the FBI straightens its priorities they might be 
> coming
> to take me away.  Ha, Ha, HO, Ho to the prison dark or the dungeon deep.
> When I drop dead in their custody they will wish they had left me alone.
> 
> 
> 
Its like her during and after Brexit, The 'we love Europe' parades had 
chartered busses, pre printed T shirts and leaflets etc etc.
The pro brexit rallies just had people with hand printed signs or not 
signs at all.

-- 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.
-- Yogi Berra

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#76628

FromPancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com>
Date2025-10-24 10:25 +0100
Message-ID<10dfgmq$2g1rh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76626
On 10/24/25 10:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 24/10/2025 04:30, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/23/25 13:16, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 15:18:20 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/22/25 13:41, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:34:43 +0100, Pancho wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally, I think they are right. I think there is something wrong
>>>>>> with our current political system. Big money/lobbying has too much
>>>>>> influence. Free speech is being stifled.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can agree with that. However the No Kings thing is also sponsored by
>>>>> big money that I want no part of.
>>>>
>>>>     What big money is that?
>>>
>>> Are you naive enough to think Indivisible runs on school kid's dimes and
>>> quarters?
>>
>>      I don't know anything about the finances of the majority of the
>> organizations and individuals seeking office except that they are working
>> on bad information when they solicit me, which included DJT which
>> came with the opportunity to tell him what I think of his behavior in
>> no uncertain terms.
>>
>>      Again if you are going to make remarks like "big money: it seems
>> you should provide some real information rather then simply saying it 
>> is so.
>>
>>      bliss - well when the FBI straightens its priorities they might 
>> be coming
>> to take me away.  Ha, Ha, HO, Ho to the prison dark or the dungeon deep.
>> When I drop dead in their custody they will wish they had left me alone.
>>
>>
>>
> Its like her during and after Brexit, The 'we love Europe' parades had 
> chartered busses, pre printed T shirts and leaflets etc etc.
> The pro brexit rallies just had people with hand printed signs or not 
> signs at all.
> 

There are loads of England flags on the lampposts around here, someone 
paid for them. I think something to do with Tommy Robinson.

I'm not quite clear what the political point of them is? However, they 
actually look quite pretty, a pleasant change from the normal Christmas 
decorations.

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#76629

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-10-24 11:51 +0100
Message-ID<10dflmn$2hibs$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76628
On 24/10/2025 10:25, Pancho wrote:
> On 10/24/25 10:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 24/10/2025 04:30, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/23/25 13:16, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 15:18:20 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/22/25 13:41, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:34:43 +0100, Pancho wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Personally, I think they are right. I think there is something wrong
>>>>>>> with our current political system. Big money/lobbying has too much
>>>>>>> influence. Free speech is being stifled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can agree with that. However the No Kings thing is also 
>>>>>> sponsored by
>>>>>> big money that I want no part of.
>>>>>
>>>>>     What big money is that?
>>>>
>>>> Are you naive enough to think Indivisible runs on school kid's dimes 
>>>> and
>>>> quarters?
>>>
>>>      I don't know anything about the finances of the majority of the
>>> organizations and individuals seeking office except that they are 
>>> working
>>> on bad information when they solicit me, which included DJT which
>>> came with the opportunity to tell him what I think of his behavior in
>>> no uncertain terms.
>>>
>>>      Again if you are going to make remarks like "big money: it seems
>>> you should provide some real information rather then simply saying it 
>>> is so.
>>>
>>>      bliss - well when the FBI straightens its priorities they might 
>>> be coming
>>> to take me away.  Ha, Ha, HO, Ho to the prison dark or the dungeon deep.
>>> When I drop dead in their custody they will wish they had left me alone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Its like her during and after Brexit, The 'we love Europe' parades had 
>> chartered busses, pre printed T shirts and leaflets etc etc.
>> The pro brexit rallies just had people with hand printed signs or not 
>> signs at all.
>>
> 
> There are loads of England flags on the lampposts around here, someone 
> paid for them. I think something to do with Tommy Robinson.
> 
Don't be silly. Tommy Robinson has almost no support anywhere and no one 
would give money to such a toxic meme.


> I'm not quite clear what the political point of them is? However, they 
> actually look quite pretty, a pleasant change from the normal Christmas 
> decorations.
> 

I would like to see the Union flag everywhere.  Its very pretty and 
reminds us of a glorious past that is gone

> 

-- 
When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over 
the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that 
authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

  Frédéric Bastiat

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#76630

FromPancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com>
Date2025-10-24 17:06 +0100
Message-ID<10dg85c$2ldt1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76629
On 10/24/25 11:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

>> There are loads of England flags on the lampposts around here, someone 
>> paid for them. I think something to do with Tommy Robinson.
>>
> Don't be silly. Tommy Robinson has almost no support anywhere and no one 
> would give money to such a toxic meme.
> 
> 
>> I'm not quite clear what the political point of them is? However, they 
>> actually look quite pretty, a pleasant change from the normal 
>> Christmas decorations.
>>
> 
> I would like to see the Union flag everywhere.  Its very pretty and 
> reminds us of a glorious past that is gone
> 
>>
> 

I'm talking about Biggin Hill, so there are also a couple of Spitfires, 
to remind us of our finest hour.

Just did a google, no one seems to know who put them there, but most 
people think they look good.

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#76636

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-24 19:02 +0000
Message-ID<mm20pmFtktmU10@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76629
On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 11:51:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Don't be silly. Tommy Robinson has almost no support anywhere and no one
> would give money to such a toxic meme.

https://www.dailysabah.com/opinion/op-ed/tommy-robinsons-zionist-
pilgrimage

Just another shabbos goy.

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#76660

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-10-25 10:38 +0100
Message-ID<10di5qt$36vmo$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76636
On 24/10/2025 20:02, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 11:51:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> Don't be silly. Tommy Robinson has almost no support anywhere and no one
>> would give money to such a toxic meme.
> 
> https://www.dailysabah.com/opinion/op-ed/tommy-robinsons-zionist-
> pilgrimage
> 
> Just another shabbos goy.

I am really surprised that you believe a single word of that website.

Tommy has never espoused any sympathy for or antipathy towards,  Jews: 
His crusade has been entirely about the Pakistani Muslims he grew up with.

When I last attended a Brexit rally in parliament square which drew tens 
of thousands of people and caused MPs to be so scared they all left 
parliament by the back door, he held a rally up the street, At best 250 
people were attending.

It doesn't matter what people say in the media,. He isn't a force in 
this country.


-- 
Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that 
doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that 
don't protect,  masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.

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#76635

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-10-24 18:54 +0000
Message-ID<mm20bhFtktmU9@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#76626
On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:13:45 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Its like her during and after Brexit, The 'we love Europe' parades had
> chartered busses, pre printed T shirts and leaflets etc etc.
> The pro brexit rallies just had people with hand printed signs or not
> signs at all.

The day before the demo there was a meeting to create signs, with 
suggestions and No Kings merch on offer. In case you missed the 
opportunity:

https://store.indivisible.org/apparel/

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#76648

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-10-24 21:09 +0000
Message-ID<10dgpug$2rrqv$11@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76626
On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:13:45 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Its like her during and after Brexit, The 'we love Europe' parades had
> chartered busses, pre printed T shirts and leaflets etc etc.
> The pro brexit rallies just had people with hand printed signs or not
> signs at all.

Boris had that big purple bus with something to the effect of “£530 
million a week going to Europe, that could go to the NHS” painted 
prominently on the side.

What happened to that £530 million a week? Is the NHS benefiting from it 
yet?

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#76659

FromJoerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de>
Date2025-10-25 10:45 +0200
Message-ID<rf3pfkhol361b2vi0vop61h9rfnm5sskck@joergwalther.my-fqdn.de>
In reply to#76648
Lawrence D´Oliveiro wrote:

>Boris had that big purple bus with something to the effect of “£530 
>million a week going to Europe, that could go to the NHS” painted 
>prominently on the side.

Nigel, not Boris.

>What happened to that £530 million a week? Is the NHS benefiting from it 
>yet?

He knew he was lying when he put that on the bus.

-jw-
-- 
And now for something completely different...

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#76661

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-10-25 10:43 +0100
Message-ID<10di638$36vmo$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76659
On 25/10/2025 09:45, Joerg Walther wrote:
> Lawrence D´Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>> Boris had that big purple bus with something to the effect of “£530
>> million a week going to Europe, that could go to the NHS” painted
>> prominently on the side.
> 
> Nigel, not Boris.
> 
And it was £350m

>> What happened to that £530 million a week? Is the NHS benefiting from it
>> yet?
> 
> He knew he was lying when he put that on the bus.
> 

It got absorbed into general government corruption.

And technically it wasn't a lie.  We were paying that much to the EU. 
What we got back was politely ignored :-)



> -jw-

-- 
Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich 
people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason 
they are poor.

Peter Thompson

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#76570

FromPancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com>
Date2025-10-23 08:54 +0100
Message-ID<10dcmvi$1eh3m$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76547
On 10/22/25 21:41, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:34:43 +0100, Pancho wrote:
> 
> 
>> Personally, I think they are right. I think there is something wrong
>> with our current political system. Big money/lobbying has too much
>> influence. Free speech is being stifled.
> 
> I can agree with that. However the No Kings thing is also sponsored by big
> money that I want no part of.

Well, of course, but big money will seek to control any viable political 
movement. They have the Republicans and Democrats, but they will also 
want influence on the emergent opposition movements, and/or political 
figures.

It is very hard to see how to tackle it.

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#76540

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-10-22 18:03 +0000
Message-ID<U%8KQ.1143653$ctz9.724231@fx16.iad>
In reply to#76475
On 2025-10-21, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> Vaguely related: I didn't attend but in the photos of Saturday's No Kings 
> demonstration I saw what I thought was a surprising amount of gray fur. I 
> wrote it off since this city has a lot of aging hippies. From comments 
> across the country it seems boomers were over represented across the 
> country.
>
> I'd have thought it was a young person thing.

Probably a lot of those boomers are explaining things to the
young people, many of whom get a blank look when you mention
Kent State.  Some of those boomers might even be able to
relate their parents' stories about Germany in the 1930s.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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