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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-11-24 23:48 +0000 |
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AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 09:37 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:21 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:35 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 23:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 04:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:40 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-10 18:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-11 11:00 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:39 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:31 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:09 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:03 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:28 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:04 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:19 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-13 19:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 07:09 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:06 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 11:32 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:45 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 22:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 14:30 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 21:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:30 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 16:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-16 18:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 18:59 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-16 13:43 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 02:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-17 07:58 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-17 17:38 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 22:16 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-18 08:53 -0400
Bikes [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:02 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-18 19:51 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 22:55 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:32 +0000
Nuisance fauna [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:31 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-19 08:41 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 00:23 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 03:32 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:34 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 23:22 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-21 08:54 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:22 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:21 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:07 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:42 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:11 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:47 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 08:19 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:50 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:32 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 20:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 11:53 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:32 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 21:52 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:44 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:34 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:23 -0400
Oil leaks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:13 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:29 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-20 20:48 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 04:10 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:39 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:48 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:34 -0400
Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:30 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-22 18:03 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:51 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:54 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:26 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-23 04:01 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:27 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:59 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 04:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 22:09 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:23 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 20:51 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:58 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 18:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 22:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:48 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-27 03:12 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 02:54 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:23 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:45 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-27 03:07 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 14:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 14:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 20:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-27 14:17 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 05:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:08 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-27 22:30 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-28 11:25 -0700
The Good Ol' Days of Computing? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:15 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-29 02:12 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 08:43 -0700
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-29 21:30 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 03:07 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 00:49 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 06:29 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 07:00 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 11:32 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:39 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 11:29 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:37 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:21 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 04:01 +0000
Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:21 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 16:53 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-27 13:48 -0400
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 20:53 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 13:56 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:30 -0400
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 08:15 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:44 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 12:51 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 15:39 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 02:14 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:52 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:37 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-27 10:18 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-27 13:42 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:18 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 19:28 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-10-24 03:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:21 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:57 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:23 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:35 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:13 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:38 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:17 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:29 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:59 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 19:09 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:49 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:38 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 13:05 -0700
Agriculture "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:25 +0200
Re: Agriculture rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:22 +0000
Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:21 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:14 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 15:06 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:01 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:09 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:40 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 21:22 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 01:54 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:20 +0200
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:28 -0400
Re: Vehicles The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 08:55 +0100
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 15:09 +0200
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 17:46 +0000
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:08 +0000
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 22:28 +0000
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:09 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 01:43 +0200
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 01:47 +0200
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-13 17:25 +0000
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:51 -0400
Pouring a coffee into a street drain. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 09:59 +0200
Re: Pouring a coffee into a street drain. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:43 +0000
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:45 -0400
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-19 14:24 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 06:04 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:48 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:52 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 01:02 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:39 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:33 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:33 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:37 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:38 -0400
Vehicles. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:35 +0200
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 17:36 +0000
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 19:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-15 11:55 +0100
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 21:06 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-15 11:59 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:00 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:29 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-16 11:22 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:34 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 18:11 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 21:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 23:45 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 22:19 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-02 11:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:59 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 06:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-02 03:05 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-02 07:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:37 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:29 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 05:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2025-10-03 11:33 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:25 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 04:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 21:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:37 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 08:54 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 10:02 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:21 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:20 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-04 17:04 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-03 08:03 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 22:55 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:06 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-01 20:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:58 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-09-30 11:25 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 12:56 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:48 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:36 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:16 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-10-31 16:52 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-31 22:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 08:07 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 03:58 -0500
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-01 17:32 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:09 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:09 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:28 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:17 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-11-03 07:52 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-02 22:21 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-11-03 09:30 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-03 14:14 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:49 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-24 23:08 -0500
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-25 06:56 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 04:03 -0500
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-22 11:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10dabsc$ii4h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76482 |
On 21/10/2025 21:05, rbowman wrote: > > What amuses me is my Toyota subcompact could blow the doors off most of > the cool sports cars we drove in the '60s to say nothing of a lot of the > sedans. Indeed. I am driving a courtesy car - little SEAT something or other - and it comfortably out performs any British 'sports car' from the 1970s... And its already done more miles than any of them ever did. -- Microsoft : the best reason to go to Linux that ever existed.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-20 20:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlnje1Fhl7gU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76409 |
On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 03:32:00 -0400, c186282 wrote: > ALMOST bought the Triumph 3-cyl Rocket-III, > surprisingly light with a low CG ... but never did it. The orig > models had a too- small thrust bearing that tended to fail badly. I've got two Suzukis and the Suzuki dealer also handled Triumphs. They were his first love. He tried to fit me up with a Rocket. Not my style. I liked the retros but objectively they're in the same niche as the Sportster. The Tiger was interesting but I went for the DR650. Not as nice but half the price for something you're going to take out in the woods.
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-20 11:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10d60f8$3dsb1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76403 |
On 10/19/25 22:44, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 00:23:19 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Did own a Kawi Vulcan 750 once. It also had dual front brakes. You >> had to be CAREFUL or you'd hurl yourself over the handlebars - the >> thing would stop QUICK. > > Stoppies are an art form that I'd rather not perfect. I avoid wheelies > too. The DR650 was prone to them if you weren't careful. It's a 650 cc > thumper so it's no powerhouse but 1st is a bit low. I went up a tooth on > the front sprocket to get something more suitable for mostly road riding. Wheelies are a stunt. Stopping quickly or slowing to avoid something in the road like a car or other motorcycle out of control is a easily learned skill for the survival of one's self and sometimes other folks. Some modern machines I imagine have anti-lock breaking built-in. With the dual-acting brakes on my 1958 R-60 I learned to apply pulses of pressure to the front brake while stepping on the rear hard. That was in the 1970s before I moved to the R-75. I never went down braking at highway aka freeway speeds after one drop at low speed on my BSA B-33 iron single on muddy detour in the 1950s. It was dark and I had a line of cars behind me and was lucky the guy behind me was alert and stopped. In those distant days I was strong and picked up myself and the bike with one hand on the handle bars and was up and away before I became a statistic. Learn to use your brakes if you don't have anti-lock braking. bliss
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 03:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlod5vFku2iU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76426 |
On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 11:53:26 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > On 10/19/25 22:44, rbowman wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 00:23:19 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Did own a Kawi Vulcan 750 once. It also had dual front brakes. You >>> had to be CAREFUL or you'd hurl yourself over the handlebars - the >>> thing would stop QUICK. >> >> Stoppies are an art form that I'd rather not perfect. I avoid wheelies >> too. The DR650 was prone to them if you weren't careful. It's a 650 cc >> thumper so it's no powerhouse but 1st is a bit low. I went up a tooth >> on the front sprocket to get something more suitable for mostly road >> riding. > > Wheelies are a stunt. Stopping quickly or slowing to avoid something > in the road like a car or other motorcycle out of control is a easily > learned skill for the survival of one's self and sometimes other folks. Stoppies are a stunt too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwlvCgNHbTc Then there are the real crazies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY1l_JpT9NA The Harley dealer had an open house with a guy putting on freestyle exhibitions. I got a chance to talk to him and asked how you get into some of the stunts. I mean there is no 'that almost worked'. There has to be a lot of moments like the first kid in the video. He mentioned a lot of hospital time. > Some modern machines I imagine have anti-lock breaking built-in. It's been around for a while. I don't know if they were the first but Honda had a combined brake system. It was sort of like a car. Either the handbrake or the foot brake applied both the front and rear brakes and they were balanced. It wasn't well received. Many of Honda's user friendly innovations haven't went over well. The Pacific Coast was extremely practical with a trunk but never took off. There is a certain 'toxic masculinity' associated with bikes. afaik BMW was the first to try ABS and it's been standard across the line for about 10 years. The hand lever does do a little rear braking but the foot pedal is just the rear. I'd looked at the BMW F650 before I bought the DR650 and ABS was optional. Nice bike but being a BMW not the easiest thing to work on. It was also pricier than the DR650 and the Kaw KLR650.
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-20 21:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10d73j0$3me2m$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76447 |
On 10/20/25 20:32, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 11:53:26 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> On 10/19/25 22:44, rbowman wrote: >>> On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 00:23:19 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> Did own a Kawi Vulcan 750 once. It also had dual front brakes. You >>>> had to be CAREFUL or you'd hurl yourself over the handlebars - the >>>> thing would stop QUICK. >>> >>> Stoppies are an art form that I'd rather not perfect. I avoid wheelies >>> too. The DR650 was prone to them if you weren't careful. It's a 650 cc >>> thumper so it's no powerhouse but 1st is a bit low. I went up a tooth >>> on the front sprocket to get something more suitable for mostly road >>> riding. >> >> Wheelies are a stunt. Stopping quickly or slowing to avoid >> something >> in the road like a car or other motorcycle out of control is a easily >> learned skill for the survival of one's self and sometimes other folks. > > Stoppies are a stunt too. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwlvCgNHbTc > > Then there are the real crazies: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY1l_JpT9NA > > The Harley dealer had an open house with a guy putting on freestyle > exhibitions. I got a chance to talk to him and asked how you get into some > of the stunts. I mean there is no 'that almost worked'. There has to be a > lot of moments like the first kid in the video. He mentioned a lot of > hospital time. > >> Some modern machines I imagine have anti-lock breaking built-in. > > It's been around for a while. I don't know if they were the first but > Honda had a combined brake system. It was sort of like a car. Either the > handbrake or the foot brake applied both the front and rear brakes and > they were balanced. It wasn't well received. Many of Honda's user friendly > innovations haven't went over well. The Pacific Coast was extremely > practical with a trunk but never took off. There is a certain 'toxic > masculinity' associated with bikes. I did not care to trust my life to such a system after I had gone to so much trouble to learn to brake properly. Besides in a short time I had become unemployable and incapable for a time of earning any part of a living. I finally gave up riding and sold my last mc some time later that was the Vision 550. > > afaik BMW was the first to try ABS and it's been standard across the line > for about 10 years. The hand lever does do a little rear braking but the > foot pedal is just the rear. I'd looked at the BMW F650 before I bought > the DR650 and ABS was optional. Nice bike but being a BMW not the easiest > thing to work on. It was also pricier than the DR650 and the Kaw KLR650. > BMW has to pay those fine German craftmens and skilled mechanics. So yes it costs a lot more and reveals the extend of the decline of the once proud American Dollar. In 1972 I paid about $1250 for the mc and today you would have to come up with at least 10X as much lucre. bliss
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 01:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <IXqdnT8XcbkggGr1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76454 |
On 10/21/25 00:52, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > > > On 10/20/25 20:32, rbowman wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 11:53:26 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >> >>> On 10/19/25 22:44, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 00:23:19 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Did own a Kawi Vulcan 750 once. It also had dual front brakes. >>>>> You >>>>> had to be CAREFUL or you'd hurl yourself over the handlebars - >>>>> the >>>>> thing would stop QUICK. >>>> >>>> Stoppies are an art form that I'd rather not perfect. I avoid wheelies >>>> too. The DR650 was prone to them if you weren't careful. It's a 650 cc >>>> thumper so it's no powerhouse but 1st is a bit low. I went up a tooth >>>> on the front sprocket to get something more suitable for mostly road >>>> riding. >>> >>> Wheelies are a stunt. Stopping quickly or slowing to avoid >>> something >>> in the road like a car or other motorcycle out of control is a easily >>> learned skill for the survival of one's self and sometimes other folks. >> >> Stoppies are a stunt too. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwlvCgNHbTc >> >> Then there are the real crazies: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY1l_JpT9NA >> >> The Harley dealer had an open house with a guy putting on freestyle >> exhibitions. I got a chance to talk to him and asked how you get into >> some >> of the stunts. I mean there is no 'that almost worked'. There has to be a >> lot of moments like the first kid in the video. He mentioned a lot of >> hospital time. >> >>> Some modern machines I imagine have anti-lock breaking built-in. >> >> It's been around for a while. I don't know if they were the first but >> Honda had a combined brake system. It was sort of like a car. Either the >> handbrake or the foot brake applied both the front and rear brakes and >> they were balanced. It wasn't well received. Many of Honda's user >> friendly >> innovations haven't went over well. The Pacific Coast was extremely >> practical with a trunk but never took off. There is a certain 'toxic >> masculinity' associated with bikes. > > I did not care to trust my life to such a system after I had gone > to so > much trouble to learn to brake properly. Besides in a short time I > had become > unemployable and incapable for a time of earning any part of a > living. I finally > gave up riding and sold my last mc some time later that was the > Vision 550. >> >> afaik BMW was the first to try ABS and it's been standard across the line >> for about 10 years. The hand lever does do a little rear braking but the >> foot pedal is just the rear. I'd looked at the BMW F650 before I bought >> the DR650 and ABS was optional. Nice bike but being a BMW not the easiest >> thing to work on. It was also pricier than the DR650 and the Kaw KLR650. >> > > BMW has to pay those fine German craftmens and skilled mechanics. > So yes it costs a lot more and reveals the extend of the decline of > the > once proud American Dollar. In 1972 I paid about $1250 for the mc and > today you would have to come up with at least 10X as much lucre. "Combined" brake systems for MCs are generally a bad idea. Separate systems give you much better fine control. MCs are not automobiles, different physics apply. I've known mechanics who will UN-couple front/rear brakes, for a cash payment and No Names ....
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 19:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlq5h8Fcg3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76454 |
On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 21:52:45 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > BMW has to pay those fine German craftmens and skilled mechanics. > So yes it costs a lot more and reveals the extend of the decline of the > once proud American Dollar. In 1972 I paid about $1250 for the mc and > today you would have to come up with at least 10X as much lucre. I would have liked one of the older BMWs like a RS60/2 or RS69. By the time I got around to affording a BMW they had switched to oilheads that I thought were ugly. I looked at a couple of old airheads but they were pretty ratty.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 23:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <9VidnQiv4fbPz2X1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76476 |
On 10/21/25 15:34, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 21:52:45 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> BMW has to pay those fine German craftmens and skilled mechanics. >> So yes it costs a lot more and reveals the extend of the decline > of the >> once proud American Dollar. In 1972 I paid about $1250 for the mc and >> today you would have to come up with at least 10X as much lucre. > > I would have liked one of the older BMWs like a RS60/2 or RS69. By the > time I got around to affording a BMW they had switched to oilheads that I > thought were ugly. I looked at a couple of old airheads but they were > pretty ratty. The old 'R' series were pretty good and basic bikes, and USED to be affordable. My prob was that they were all built for slightly taller people :-)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-22 05:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlr91lF4r85U7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76490 |
On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:41:07 -0400, c186282 wrote: > The old 'R' series were pretty good and basic bikes, and USED to be > affordable. My prob was that they were all built for slightly taller > people I think the Suzukis have gotten taller in my old age. I didn't used to have to really think about swinging a leg over them. What really sucks is when you have a pack bungeed on the back, the hook on you boot catches on something, and you stand there like a dog trying to take a piss.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-22 02:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1iadnUPdkMng5WX1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76501 |
On 10/22/25 01:40, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:41:07 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> The old 'R' series were pretty good and basic bikes, and USED to be >> affordable. My prob was that they were all built for slightly taller >> people > > I think the Suzukis have gotten taller in my old age. I didn't used to > have to really think about swinging a leg over them. What really sucks is > when you have a pack bungeed on the back, the hook on you boot catches on > something, and you stand there like a dog trying to take a piss. Get a fair amount of rain where I live now. This means street intersections are especially dangerous on two wheels. The waiting vehicles drip OIL and various fluids ... and when it's damp the road surface becomes like greased glass. You HAVE to be able to put both feet down, widely, to get past that. The Jap cruisers and some HDs are good at putting the seat pretty low. You COULD do the survival maneuvers. Alas BMWs were always pretty 'high'. I'd have bought one otherwise. The old r90-S standards were about perfect IMHO. But you really needed to be near 6' tall .....
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-22 14:13 +0200 |
| Subject | Oil leaks |
| Message-ID | <qbumslxdhk.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76508 |
On 2025-10-22 08:23, c186282 wrote: > On 10/22/25 01:40, rbowman wrote: >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:41:07 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> The old 'R' series were pretty good and basic bikes, and USED to be >>> affordable. My prob was that they were all built for slightly taller >>> people >> >> I think the Suzukis have gotten taller in my old age. I didn't used to >> have to really think about swinging a leg over them. What really sucks is >> when you have a pack bungeed on the back, the hook on you boot catches on >> something, and you stand there like a dog trying to take a piss. > > Get a fair amount of rain where I live now. > This means street intersections are especially > dangerous on two wheels. The waiting vehicles > drip OIL and various fluids ... and when it's > damp the road surface becomes like greased glass. Well, that's one more reason for mandatory periodical vehicle inspection. Here you don't get a pass with an oil leak. > You HAVE to be able to put both feet down, widely, > to get past that. > > The Jap cruisers and some HDs are good at putting > the seat pretty low. You COULD do the survival > maneuvers. Alas BMWs were always pretty 'high'. > I'd have bought one otherwise. The old r90-S > standards were about perfect IMHO. But you > really needed to be near 6' tall ..... > -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-20 10:29 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <0g8hslxmvj.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76397 |
On 2025-10-20 06:23, c186282 wrote: > On 10/19/25 06:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 19/10/2025 08:41, Pancho wrote: >>> One thing that has always puzzled me about sporty motorcycles is, why >>> do they have two disk brakes on the front wheel. One per wheel is >>> enough for my much heavier car. >> >> Do you spend your entire time braking from high speed every 15 seconds? >> >> I was doing about 110mph (before speed cameras were everywhere) when I >> saw a stopped car ahead. By the time I was at 15mph the brakes had >> completely gone. >> >> There was just enough left to stop... >> Twin disks have more capacity to absorb heat in a smaller volume. > > I'll agree that "sport bike" enthusiasts always > push it - fast acceleration, then fast braking - > over and over and over. Great thrill I suppose. > > As such 'excessive' braking capability is not > really 'excessive'. > > Did own a Kawi Vulcan 750 once. It also had dual > front brakes. You had to be CAREFUL or you'd hurl > yourself over the handlebars - the thing would > stop QUICK. Actually caused issues with a state > MC license referee, you were supposed to start > braking at line 'A' and then stop by line 'B', > but the bike would stop like a foot beyond 'A'. > Had to CHEAT the braking maneuver test, do it > just with the rear brake :-) What was that test? :-? Google AI says: «An "MC license" can refer to a Multi-Combination (MC) license for driving very large vehicles with multiple trailers, or a motorcycle (MC) license for riding motorcycles. An MC license for heavy vehicles is a high-level license for driving B-doubles or road trains, while a motorcycle license is for riding bikes and has different classes based on engine size and power. » ... -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-20 19:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlnhn0Fgob9U6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76411 |
On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 10:29:20 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-10-20 06:23, c186282 wrote: >> On 10/19/25 06:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 19/10/2025 08:41, Pancho wrote: >>>> One thing that has always puzzled me about sporty motorcycles is, why >>>> do they have two disk brakes on the front wheel. One per wheel is >>>> enough for my much heavier car. >>> >>> Do you spend your entire time braking from high speed every 15 >>> seconds? >>> >>> I was doing about 110mph (before speed cameras were everywhere) when I >>> saw a stopped car ahead. By the time I was at 15mph the brakes had >>> completely gone. >>> >>> There was just enough left to stop... >>> Twin disks have more capacity to absorb heat in a smaller volume. >> >> I'll agree that "sport bike" enthusiasts always push it - fast >> acceleration, then fast braking - over and over and over. Great >> thrill I suppose. >> >> As such 'excessive' braking capability is not really 'excessive'. >> >> Did own a Kawi Vulcan 750 once. It also had dual front brakes. You >> had to be CAREFUL or you'd hurl yourself over the handlebars - the >> thing would stop QUICK. Actually caused issues with a state MC >> license referee, you were supposed to start braking at line 'A' and >> then stop by line 'B', but the bike would stop like a foot beyond >> 'A'. Had to CHEAT the braking maneuver test, do it just with the >> rear brake :-) > > What was that test? :-? It usually involved slow speed maneuvers through cones, sharp turns, and effective braking. My Harley had a foot operated clutch with a shifter on the tank, not exactly the best setup for slow speed maneuvers. Borrowing a friend's little Yamaha 180 worked. > Google AI says: «An "MC license" can refer to a Multi-Combination (MC) > license for driving very large vehicles with multiple trailers, or a > motorcycle (MC) license for riding motorcycles. An MC license for heavy > vehicles is a high-level license for driving B-doubles or road trains, > while a motorcycle license is for riding bikes and has different classes > based on engine size and power. » In the US there aren't different classes. Joe Blow can jump on a Hayabusa and go on his way. For about a mile. I had a Yamaha with a 397 cc engine. It was never popular in the US and was designed for the European tiered system where beginners were restricted to under 400 ccs. In truth, the engine woke up about 7500 rpm and pulled strong to 13000. If you short shifted it was very docile. In this and most states it's an endorsement on a regular driver's license. I've always had a DL and don't know if there are motorcycle only licenses. It's the same for CDLs (commercial drivers license). Doubles and triples are an endorsement, as are tankers. The endorsements are a written test. I had both. I never had actually driven a set of doubles until I saw two trailer numbers after my name on the load board at the LA terminal. A couple of drivers taught me how to hook them up and I was off for on the job training in LA traffic. They're a pain since you have to disassemble them to deliver the goods in the front trailer and stash the rest someplace. Some people can back them up but I never managed to get more than a few feet before things started to go sideways. I also had a bus endorsement. That also required a written test but you did have to take a separate road test in a actual bus. Hazardous materials is also an endorsement with a written test. I dropped my CDL when that also required a DHS background check. By that time I'd went back to programming and only kept the CDL in case I wanted to drive part time when I retired. I never got around to retiring.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-20 20:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <DexJQ.441097$Tux4.67208@fx11.iad> |
| In reply to | #76431 |
On 2025-10-20, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > In this and most states it's an endorsement on a regular driver's license. > I've always had a DL and don't know if there are motorcycle only licenses. Back in my teens I had a small motorbike. My licence said "motorcycles only" in the restrictions section. A year later when I got my automobile licence its restrictions section said "Not permitted to drive motorcycles". If asked for a licence, I would present whichever one covered what I was driving. Five years later, when I was up for renewal, I got a single licence that was good for both. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 04:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlofdaFku2iU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76436 |
On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 20:48:35 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > Back in my teens I had a small motorbike. My licence said "motorcycles > only" in the restrictions section. A year later when I got my > automobile licence its restrictions section said "Not permitted to drive > motorcycles". If asked for a licence, > I would present whichever one covered what I was driving. Five years > later, when I was up for renewal, I got a single licence that was good > for both. A little googling around and at least Virginia has a separate MC license, or a license with a '6' means only motorcycles. They also have M1 for two wheels, M2 for three, ans M for both. In Montana you don't need a motorcycle endorsement for three wheelers or ATVs. Weirdly, ATVs are considered 'quadricycles' and the requirements to be street legal are minimal. At least one headlight, one taillight, one brake light, one mirror, and a license plate light. Oh, yeah, and a horn. Gotta have a damn horn. And rubber tires. Your snow machine won't cut it. There are ill-defined dimensional requirements to prevent someone from registering their kid's mini-atv or mini-bike.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 01:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <IXqdnTwXcbkPgWr1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76450 |
On 10/21/25 00:10, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 20:48:35 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> Back in my teens I had a small motorbike. My licence said "motorcycles >> only" in the restrictions section. A year later when I got my >> automobile licence its restrictions section said "Not permitted to drive >> motorcycles". If asked for a licence, >> I would present whichever one covered what I was driving. Five years >> later, when I was up for renewal, I got a single licence that was good >> for both. > > A little googling around and at least Virginia has a separate MC license, > or a license with a '6' means only motorcycles. They also have M1 for two > wheels, M2 for three, ans M for both. > > In Montana you don't need a motorcycle endorsement for three wheelers or > ATVs. Weirdly, ATVs are considered 'quadricycles' and the requirements to > be street legal are minimal. At least one headlight, one taillight, one > brake light, one mirror, and a license plate light. Oh, yeah, and a horn. > Gotta have a damn horn. And rubber tires. Your snow machine won't cut it. > > There are ill-defined dimensional requirements to prevent someone from > registering their kid's mini-atv or mini-bike. Quads and "golf carts" can now be considered to be "vehicles" in lots of states - the popularity has exploded. They require a few basic minimums, tail-lights, head-lights, but the other requirements are rather few. Licensing requirements also vary, from nearly nothing to the same as automobiles. "Golf carts" are now VERY popular amongst two basic cliques ... the dirt-poor "trailer park" people and the "retiree" set. Living places for retirees, you will see almost entirely 'golf carts'. Consider them small/slow "EV"s.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 20:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlq76kFcg3U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76457 |
On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 01:39:33 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Quads and "golf carts" can now be considered to be "vehicles" in lots > of states - the popularity has exploded. They require a few basic > minimums, tail-lights, head-lights, but the other requirements are > rather few. In this state golf carts are subject to local ordinances. If they are allowed the state laws dictate basic equipment and require a DL. There are a couple of communities built up around golf courses where you see them tooling around. Unless you're suicidal you don't want to be on most highways with something that peaks out at 20 mph. I see a lot of ebikes lately. I haven't been into one of the local bike shops recently so I don't know if they're selling them or if it's mail order. The Forest Service and the county have banned them on most single track trails. They are walking a fine line particularly the ones that you couldn't pedal if you wanted to.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-21 23:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <McmdnQt8lau6yWX1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76481 |
On 10/21/25 16:02, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 01:39:33 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Quads and "golf carts" can now be considered to be "vehicles" in lots >> of states - the popularity has exploded. They require a few basic >> minimums, tail-lights, head-lights, but the other requirements are >> rather few. > > In this state golf carts are subject to local ordinances. If they are > allowed the state laws dictate basic equipment and require a DL. There > are a couple of communities built up around golf courses where you see > them tooling around. Unless you're suicidal you don't want to be on most > highways with something that peaks out at 20 mph. I've seen some that do at least 45 :-) But yea, major highway, keep up or get squashed. It is surprisingly difficult to spot a slow or stationary vehicle while driving. The perspective does not change much until you're RIGHT up on the damned thing. MANY nasty accidents result. Oddly it's the police who are often victims of this. Despite blue lights and such, drivers kind of see the tail-lights and automatically assume the pull-off strip is another open lane where traffic is proceeding at their speed. They only realize the truth an instant before the Big Smash. Something about how humans are wired ..... > I see a lot of ebikes lately. I haven't been into one of the local bike > shops recently so I don't know if they're selling them or if it's mail > order. The Forest Service and the county have banned them on most single > track trails. They are walking a fine line particularly the ones that you > couldn't pedal if you wanted to. I have a couple of e-bike fanatics who blast down the sidewalk in front of my house. Some of those things are pretty damned fast. They also make NO NOISE. Now have to CAREFULLY, incrementally, nose my car out over the sidewalk.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-22 06:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlraapF4r85U9@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76491 |
On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:48:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: > It is surprisingly difficult to spot a slow or stationary vehicle > while driving. The perspective does not change much until you're > RIGHT up on the damned thing. MANY nasty accidents result. Any vehicle that can't do at least 25 is supposed to have a big slow vehicle triangle on the back. Always fun to get stuck behind a Harobed. https://www.loc.gov/item/ncr002399/ Trivia: the guy who invented it had a daughter named Deborah. > Oddly it's the police who are often victims of this. Despite blue > lights and such, drivers kind of see the tail-lights and > automatically assume the pull-off strip is another open lane where > traffic is proceeding at their speed. > They only realize the truth an instant before the Big Smash. > Something about how humans are wired ..... I live way past the street lights and there aren't that many houses so it can be dark on moonless lights. I've found myself drifting toward some hapless bastard with a blinking red light on his bicycle like a moth to a flame. 'What's that? Better go check it out. It might be a wolf or something!' > I have a couple of e-bike fanatics who blast down the sidewalk in > front of my house. Some of those things are pretty damned fast. They > also make NO NOISE. Now have to CAREFULLY, incrementally, nose my car > out over the sidewalk. I've clocked them at 25. It's disconcerting in city traffic when it's in the bike lane and going faster than you. I'm used to bicyclists catching up at stop lights but not running neck in neck. Then there are the two wheel e-scooters that look like a trip to the ER, to say nothing of hoverboards. We had plenty of ways to kill ourselves when I was a kid but the choices have improved. The city built both a BMX and skateboard park. I don't think I was that crazy even at 10.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-22 03:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1iadnXzdkMmdFGX1nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76505 |
On 10/22/25 02:02, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:48:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: > > >> It is surprisingly difficult to spot a slow or stationary vehicle >> while driving. The perspective does not change much until you're >> RIGHT up on the damned thing. MANY nasty accidents result. > > Any vehicle that can't do at least 25 is supposed to have a big slow > vehicle triangle on the back. Always fun to get stuck behind a Harobed. > > https://www.loc.gov/item/ncr002399/ > > Trivia: the guy who invented it had a daughter named Deborah. I suppose the keyword is "had" .... >> Oddly it's the police who are often victims of this. Despite blue >> lights and such, drivers kind of see the tail-lights and >> automatically assume the pull-off strip is another open lane where >> traffic is proceeding at their speed. >> They only realize the truth an instant before the Big Smash. >> Something about how humans are wired ..... > > I live way past the street lights and there aren't that many houses so it > can be dark on moonless lights. I've found myself drifting toward some > hapless bastard with a blinking red light on his bicycle like a moth to a > flame. 'What's that? Better go check it out. It might be a wolf or > something!' Raccoons have NO 'traffic sense' - they, entire families, will just walk out into traffic to cross the road. Splat ! They are fairly intelligent but it does NOT include that. Cats wait until the LAST ULTIMATE SECOND and then try to dart across the road. Again, often, splat ! Dogs think vehicles are 'cattle' or something, rush out to 'bite at the heels'. Splat. Humans have their own 'traffic sense' limitations. Assuming any tail-lights you see = "vehicle lane moving at my speed" is one of those. Our wiring has a blank spot. Write all the laws you want, that blank spot will NOT go away. >> I have a couple of e-bike fanatics who blast down the sidewalk in >> front of my house. Some of those things are pretty damned fast. They >> also make NO NOISE. Now have to CAREFULLY, incrementally, nose my car >> out over the sidewalk. > > I've clocked them at 25. It's disconcerting in city traffic when it's in > the bike lane and going faster than you. I'm used to bicyclists catching > up at stop lights but not running neck in neck. I've clocked some e-bikes ... 40mph sometimes. Not sure if UK/elsewhere have limitations but then owners sometimes do their own mods. The damned things are hard to see and SILENT ... but it's YOUR fault if one hits you. > Then there are the two wheel e-scooters that look like a trip to the ER, > to say nothing of hoverboards. We had plenty of ways to kill ourselves > when I was a kid but the choices have improved. The city built both a BMX > and skateboard park. I don't think I was that crazy even at 10. 'Scoots' tend to be a LITTLE larger, a LITTLE easier to see. Not much, but SOME. The old bright-painted Vespa's were MUCH better. My local terror has a fast e-bike. It's painted flat black. The rider wears black. Can't even see him at high noon. Likely he will get splatted pretty soon - just hope it isn't me. I see you can now buy Vespa's in a wide variety of engine sizes, up to maybe 250cc.
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