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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-11-24 23:48 +0000 |
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AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 09:37 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:21 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:35 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 23:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 04:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:40 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-10 18:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-11 11:00 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:39 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:31 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:09 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:03 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:28 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:04 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:19 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-13 19:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 07:09 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:06 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 11:32 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:45 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 22:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 14:30 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 21:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:30 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 16:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-16 18:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 18:59 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-16 13:43 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 02:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-17 07:58 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-17 17:38 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 22:16 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-18 08:53 -0400
Bikes [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:02 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-18 19:51 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 22:55 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:32 +0000
Nuisance fauna [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:31 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-19 08:41 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 00:23 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 03:32 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:34 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 23:22 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-21 08:54 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:22 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:21 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:07 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:42 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:11 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:47 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 08:19 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:50 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:32 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 20:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 11:53 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:32 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 21:52 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:44 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:34 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:23 -0400
Oil leaks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:13 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:29 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-20 20:48 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 04:10 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:39 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:48 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:34 -0400
Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:30 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-22 18:03 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:51 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:54 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:26 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-23 04:01 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:27 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:59 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 04:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 22:09 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:23 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 20:51 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:58 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 18:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 22:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:48 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-27 03:12 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 02:54 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:23 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:45 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-27 03:07 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 14:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 14:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 20:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-27 14:17 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 05:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:08 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-27 22:30 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-28 11:25 -0700
The Good Ol' Days of Computing? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:15 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-29 02:12 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 08:43 -0700
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-29 21:30 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 03:07 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 00:49 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 06:29 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 07:00 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 11:32 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:39 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 11:29 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:37 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:21 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 04:01 +0000
Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:21 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 16:53 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-27 13:48 -0400
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 20:53 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 13:56 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:30 -0400
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 08:15 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:44 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 12:51 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 15:39 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 02:14 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:52 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:37 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-27 10:18 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-27 13:42 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:18 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 19:28 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-10-24 03:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:21 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:57 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:23 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:35 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:13 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:38 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:17 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:29 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:59 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 19:09 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:49 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:38 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 13:05 -0700
Agriculture "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:25 +0200
Re: Agriculture rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:22 +0000
Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:21 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:14 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 15:06 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:01 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:09 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:40 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 21:22 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 01:54 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:20 +0200
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:28 -0400
Re: Vehicles The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 08:55 +0100
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 15:09 +0200
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 17:46 +0000
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:08 +0000
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 22:28 +0000
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:09 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 01:43 +0200
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 01:47 +0200
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-13 17:25 +0000
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:51 -0400
Pouring a coffee into a street drain. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 09:59 +0200
Re: Pouring a coffee into a street drain. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:43 +0000
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:45 -0400
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:52 +0000
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:39 +0000
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:33 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:37 -0400
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 22:19 -0400
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:59 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 06:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-02 03:05 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-02 07:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:37 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:29 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 05:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:24 -0400
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:25 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 04:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 21:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:37 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 08:54 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 10:02 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:21 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:20 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-04 17:04 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-03 08:03 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 22:55 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:06 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-01 20:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:58 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-09-30 11:25 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 12:56 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:48 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:36 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:16 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-10-31 16:52 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-31 22:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 08:07 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 03:58 -0500
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-01 17:32 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:09 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:09 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:28 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:17 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-11-03 07:52 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-02 22:21 +0000
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Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-24 23:08 -0500
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-15 06:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ml8u0pF2l5bU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76147 |
On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 23:31:45 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > I wish the inspection stations were still around. Most modern cars > would fail due to overly-bright headlights aimed too high. (Gotta dazzle > the oncoming traffic, doncha know - the car ads say it's cool.) When we > cross the border into Washington I notice that headlights down there > aren't nearly as obnoxious. In fact, the last time I bought a > replacement headlamp I noticed that a number of them were marked "Legal > in Canada and Mexico only". Apparently this is something the States got > right. The HID systems are really annoying to say nothing of pickups with headlights at eye level if you're in a passenger car. I had cataracts removed from both eyes last year. Prior to that I was mostly flying blind with oncoming headlights. I'm not big on gadgetry and my Toyota doesn't have remote entry, lane keeping, and all that but one thing it does have is automatic headlight dimming. In almost all cases it dims the lights when I would manually either overtaking or approaching. One quirk is a 20 mph curve on my way home that has a lot of reflective signage that will trigger dimming. iirc Cadillac had something like that about 50 years ago that didn't work very well. I assume this system has more intelligence and better sensors.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-15 03:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <FDWdnWZMNM4F0HL1nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76177 |
On 10/15/25 02:41, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 23:31:45 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> I wish the inspection stations were still around. Most modern cars >> would fail due to overly-bright headlights aimed too high. (Gotta dazzle >> the oncoming traffic, doncha know - the car ads say it's cool.) When we >> cross the border into Washington I notice that headlights down there >> aren't nearly as obnoxious. In fact, the last time I bought a >> replacement headlamp I noticed that a number of them were marked "Legal >> in Canada and Mexico only". Apparently this is something the States got >> right. > > The HID systems are really annoying to say nothing of pickups with > headlights at eye level if you're in a passenger car. I had cataracts > removed from both eyes last year. Prior to that I was mostly flying blind > with oncoming headlights. > > I'm not big on gadgetry and my Toyota doesn't have remote entry, lane > keeping, and all that but one thing it does have is automatic headlight > dimming. In almost all cases it dims the lights when I would manually > either overtaking or approaching. One quirk is a 20 mph curve on my way > home that has a lot of reflective signage that will trigger dimming. > > iirc Cadillac had something like that about 50 years ago that didn't work > very well. I assume this system has more intelligence and better sensors. The solution to the headlights is easy, and could have been done 50 years ago. Crossed polarization film - one way for headlights and the other built into the windshield. Even a 30-50 percent glare reduction would be very useful.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-15 16:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <xnQHQ.773114$ctz9.521378@fx16.iad> |
| In reply to | #76177 |
On 2025-10-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Tue, 14 Oct 2025 23:31:45 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> I wish the inspection stations were still around. Most modern cars >> would fail due to overly-bright headlights aimed too high. (Gotta dazzle >> the oncoming traffic, doncha know - the car ads say it's cool.) When we >> cross the border into Washington I notice that headlights down there >> aren't nearly as obnoxious. In fact, the last time I bought a >> replacement headlamp I noticed that a number of them were marked "Legal >> in Canada and Mexico only". Apparently this is something the States got >> right. > > The HID systems are really annoying to say nothing of pickups with > headlights at eye level if you're in a passenger car. I had cataracts > removed from both eyes last year. Prior to that I was mostly flying blind > with oncoming headlights. I've had cataract surgery on one eye; the other one is OK so far, although I suspect it's just about time to have it done. (Maybe after my upcoming knee surgery - I'm really getting into "spare parts" mode these days.) The difference in colour between the eyes is kind of weird but not too noticeable. These days when driving at night I often pull my sun visor down until all I can see of the car ahead is its bumper and wheels. That nicely blocks light from oncoming cars. If someone with bright headlights (HID, LED, misadjusted halogens, it's all the same) is behind me, I adjust my side mirror to direct the beam back into his own eyes. Not only is it poetic justice, it discourages tailgating. I don't take the government too seriously when it comes to road safety. There are too many inconsistencies, and probably not a few kickbacks. > I'm not big on gadgetry and my Toyota doesn't have remote entry, lane > keeping, and all that but one thing it does have is automatic headlight > dimming. In almost all cases it dims the lights when I would manually > either overtaking or approaching. One quirk is a 20 mph curve on my way > home that has a lot of reflective signage that will trigger dimming. > > iirc Cadillac had something like that about 50 years ago that didn't work > very well. I assume this system has more intelligence and better sensors. Interesting. But it's one more gadget I don't need. I don't find it that big a hardship to dim my own headlights. The one gadget I've wanted for years - and it wouldn't be difficult to implement - is turn signals that automatically cancel after 30 seconds if the car is in motion. Or at least click loudly enough to be heard, possibly with a loud alarm after that 30 seconds. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-15 21:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlai65Fb1aaU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76201 |
On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 16:57:01 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > Interesting. But it's one more gadget I don't need. I don't find it > that big a hardship to dim my own headlights. The one gadget I've > wanted for years - and it wouldn't be difficult to implement - is turn > signals that automatically cancel after 30 seconds if the car is in > motion. > Or at least click loudly enough to be heard, possibly with a loud alarm > after that 30 seconds. You mean if you don't actually turn? There's one intersection where I have to be careful. It's more of a branch left and depending on my actual path the signal resets or doesn't. The bikes require reprogramming my brain too. The Harley turn signals cancel automatically. With both Suzukis it's a mechanical switch and they will stay on forever, even after stopping and restarting the bike.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-16 18:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <K1bIQ.305229$Tux4.88761@fx11.iad> |
| In reply to | #76208 |
On 2025-10-15, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 16:57:01 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> Interesting. But it's one more gadget I don't need. I don't find it >> that big a hardship to dim my own headlights. The one gadget I've >> wanted for years - and it wouldn't be difficult to implement - is turn >> signals that automatically cancel after 30 seconds if the car is in >> motion. >> Or at least click loudly enough to be heard, possibly with a loud alarm >> after that 30 seconds. > > You mean if you don't actually turn? There's one intersection where I > have to be careful. It's more of a branch left and depending on my actual > path the signal resets or doesn't. Yep. I frequently drive through an intersection like that too. > The bikes require reprogramming my brain too. The Harley turn signals > cancel automatically. With both Suzukis it's a mechanical switch and they > will stay on forever, even after stopping and restarting the bike. Oh, that's a tricky one. Thank goodness major issues like the placement of clutch and brake pedals has been standardized... -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-16 18:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlctlbFn22tU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76263 |
On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:43:54 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > Oh, that's a tricky one. Thank goodness major issues like the placement > of clutch and brake pedals has been standardized... iirc early Brit bikes had the shifter on the right. Of course.
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-16 13:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10crldd$lkb4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76264 |
On 10/16/25 11:59, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:43:54 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> Oh, that's a tricky one. Thank goodness major issues like the placement >> of clutch and brake pedals has been standardized... > > iirc early Brit bikes had the shifter on the right. Of course. To the best of my recollection you are correct and I had problems from moving from my Allstate Twingle 175 cc 2 cycle, made in Austria by Puck, Steyr Daimler to my BSA Single 4 stroke iron head single 500 cc and got a ticket as a result of trying to stop with the shifter instead of the brake pedal. I was a different person in my youth as most of us are. bliss
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-17 02:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mldmebFrf8iU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76267 |
On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 13:43:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > On 10/16/25 11:59, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:43:54 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> Oh, that's a tricky one. Thank goodness major issues like the >>> placement of clutch and brake pedals has been standardized... >> >> iirc early Brit bikes had the shifter on the right. Of course. > > To the best of my recollection you are correct and I had problems from > moving from my Allstate Twingle 175 cc 2 cycle, made in Austria by Puck, > Steyr Daimler to my BSA Single 4 stroke iron head single 500 cc and got > a ticket as a result of trying to stop with the shifter instead of the > brake pedal. > > I was a different person in my youth as most of us are. Still riding. Some year I'll have to park the bikes but not this year. I seldom use the foot pedal anymore since front disks became so effective. My first bike was a '55 Harley with a cable operated drum brake in front. That needed all the help it could get to stop. It was so ineffective you didn't get much weight transfer so there wasn't much danger of locking up the rear.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2025-10-17 07:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10ctb13$12oei$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76276 |
rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 13:43:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> On 10/16/25 11:59, rbowman wrote: >>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:43:54 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> >>>> Oh, that's a tricky one. Thank goodness major issues like the >>>> placement of clutch and brake pedals has been standardized... >>> >>> iirc early Brit bikes had the shifter on the right. Of course. My road bike has shifters on both sides. And they double as brakes. >> To the best of my recollection you are correct and I had >> problems from moving from my Allstate Twingle 175 cc 2 cycle, >> made in Austria by Puck, Steyr Daimler to my BSA Single 4 >> stroke iron head single 500 cc and got a ticket as a result of >> trying to stop with the shifter instead of the brake pedal. >> >> I was a different person in my youth as most of us are. > > Still riding. Some year I'll have to park the bikes but not this > year. I seldom use the foot pedal anymore since front disks > became so effective. My first bike was a '55 Harley with a > cable operated drum brake in front. That needed all the help it > could get to stop. It was so ineffective you didn't get much > weight transfer so there wasn't much danger of locking up the > rear. On a road bike you have to be careful about using the front brake. Those disk brakes can get pretty grabby. -- War is much too serious a matter to be entrusted to the military. -- Clemenceau
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| From | Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-17 17:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10ctrdc$16st9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76279 |
On 10/17/25 12:58, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > >> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 13:43:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >> >>> On 10/16/25 11:59, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:43:54 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>> >>>>> Oh, that's a tricky one. Thank goodness major issues like the >>>>> placement of clutch and brake pedals has been standardized... >>>> >>>> iirc early Brit bikes had the shifter on the right. Of course. > > My road bike has shifters on both sides. And they double as > brakes. > >>> To the best of my recollection you are correct and I had >>> problems from moving from my Allstate Twingle 175 cc 2 cycle, >>> made in Austria by Puck, Steyr Daimler to my BSA Single 4 >>> stroke iron head single 500 cc and got a ticket as a result of >>> trying to stop with the shifter instead of the brake pedal. >>> >>> I was a different person in my youth as most of us are. >> >> Still riding. Some year I'll have to park the bikes but not this >> year. I seldom use the foot pedal anymore since front disks >> became so effective. My first bike was a '55 Harley with a >> cable operated drum brake in front. That needed all the help it >> could get to stop. It was so ineffective you didn't get much >> weight transfer so there wasn't much danger of locking up the >> rear. > > On a road bike you have to be careful about using the front brake. > Those disk brakes can get pretty grabby. > Disk brakes are less grabby than rim brakes, they tend to offer more even retarding force than rim brakes. I think they call it better modulation. My perception is that prior to disk brakes, rim brakes had also got a lot better. Better than from when I was a kid. Steel rim brakes were very problematic.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-17 22:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlfthsF8hg8U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76283 |
On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 17:38:04 +0100, Pancho wrote: > On 10/17/25 12:58, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >> rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >> >>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 13:43:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>> >>>> On 10/16/25 11:59, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:43:54 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Oh, that's a tricky one. Thank goodness major issues like the >>>>>> placement of clutch and brake pedals has been standardized... >>>>> >>>>> iirc early Brit bikes had the shifter on the right. Of course. >> >> My road bike has shifters on both sides. And they double as brakes. >> >>>> To the best of my recollection you are correct and I had problems >>>> from moving from my Allstate Twingle 175 cc 2 cycle, made in Austria >>>> by Puck, Steyr Daimler to my BSA Single 4 stroke iron head single >>>> 500 cc and got a ticket as a result of trying to stop with the >>>> shifter instead of the brake pedal. >>>> >>>> I was a different person in my youth as most of us are. >>> >>> Still riding. Some year I'll have to park the bikes but not this year. >>> I seldom use the foot pedal anymore since front disks became so >>> effective. My first bike was a '55 Harley with a cable operated drum >>> brake in front. That needed all the help it could get to stop. It was >>> so ineffective you didn't get much weight transfer so there wasn't >>> much danger of locking up the rear. >> >> On a road bike you have to be careful about using the front brake. >> Those disk brakes can get pretty grabby. >> > Disk brakes are less grabby than rim brakes, they tend to offer more > even retarding force than rim brakes. I think they call it better > modulation. > > My perception is that prior to disk brakes, rim brakes had also got a > lot better. Better than from when I was a kid. Steel rim brakes were > very problematic. Are we talking about motorcycles or bicycles? I have one bicycle with a disk brake and I haven't noticed it grabbing. otoh with rim brakes I once blew a tube on a long descent when the rim was too hot to touch. At least with a disk you don't have that problem. I read 'road bike' as opposed to 'dirt bike' as a motorcycle.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2025-10-18 08:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10d02kn$1qd3e$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76289 |
rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 17:38:04 +0100, Pancho wrote: > >> On 10/17/25 12:58, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>> rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >>> >>>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 13:43:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 10/16/25 11:59, rbowman wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:43:54 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh, that's a tricky one. Thank goodness major issues like the >>>>>>> placement of clutch and brake pedals has been standardized... >>>>>> >>>>>> iirc early Brit bikes had the shifter on the right. Of course. >>> >>> My road bike has shifters on both sides. And they double as brakes. >>> >>>>> To the best of my recollection you are correct and I had problems >>>>> from moving from my Allstate Twingle 175 cc 2 cycle, made in > Austria >>>>> by Puck, Steyr Daimler to my BSA Single 4 stroke iron head single >>>>> 500 cc and got a ticket as a result of trying to stop with the >>>>> shifter instead of the brake pedal. >>>>> >>>>> I was a different person in my youth as most of us are. >>>> >>>> Still riding. Some year I'll have to park the bikes but not this year. >>>> I seldom use the foot pedal anymore since front disks became so >>>> effective. My first bike was a '55 Harley with a cable operated drum >>>> brake in front. That needed all the help it could get to stop. It was >>>> so ineffective you didn't get much weight transfer so there wasn't >>>> much danger of locking up the rear. >>> >>> On a road bike you have to be careful about using the front brake. >>> Those disk brakes can get pretty grabby. >>> >> Disk brakes are less grabby than rim brakes, they tend to offer more >> even retarding force than rim brakes. I think they call it better >> modulation. >> >> My perception is that prior to disk brakes, rim brakes had also got a >> lot better. Better than from when I was a kid. Steel rim brakes were >> very problematic. > > Are we talking about motorcycles or bicycles? I have one bicycle with a > disk brake and I haven't noticed it grabbing. Riding in a park downhill I suddenly came upon a doe and her fawn. The disk brakes grabbed hard enough to make me skid and the rear tire moved sideways. > otoh with rim brakes I once > blew a tube on a long descent when the rim was too hot to touch. At least > with a disk you don't have that problem. > > I read 'road bike' as opposed to 'dirt bike' as a motorcycle. -- Fun experiments: Get a can of shaving cream, throw it in a freezer for about a week. Then take it out, peel the metal off and put it where you want... bedroom, car, etc. As it thaws, it expands an unbelievable amount.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-18 20:02 +0200 |
| Subject | Bikes [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] |
| Message-ID | <na1dslx3pk.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76311 |
On 2025-10-18 14:53, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > >> On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 17:38:04 +0100, Pancho wrote: >> >>> On 10/17/25 12:58, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>> rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 13:43:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 10/16/25 11:59, rbowman wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:43:54 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh, that's a tricky one. Thank goodness major issues like the >>>>>>>> placement of clutch and brake pedals has been standardized... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> iirc early Brit bikes had the shifter on the right. Of course. >>>> >>>> My road bike has shifters on both sides. And they double as brakes. >>>> >>>>>> To the best of my recollection you are correct and I had problems >>>>>> from moving from my Allstate Twingle 175 cc 2 cycle, made in >> Austria >>>>>> by Puck, Steyr Daimler to my BSA Single 4 stroke iron head single >>>>>> 500 cc and got a ticket as a result of trying to stop with the >>>>>> shifter instead of the brake pedal. >>>>>> >>>>>> I was a different person in my youth as most of us are. >>>>> >>>>> Still riding. Some year I'll have to park the bikes but not this year. >>>>> I seldom use the foot pedal anymore since front disks became so >>>>> effective. My first bike was a '55 Harley with a cable operated drum >>>>> brake in front. That needed all the help it could get to stop. It was >>>>> so ineffective you didn't get much weight transfer so there wasn't >>>>> much danger of locking up the rear. >>>> >>>> On a road bike you have to be careful about using the front brake. >>>> Those disk brakes can get pretty grabby. >>>> >>> Disk brakes are less grabby than rim brakes, they tend to offer more >>> even retarding force than rim brakes. I think they call it better >>> modulation. >>> >>> My perception is that prior to disk brakes, rim brakes had also got a >>> lot better. Better than from when I was a kid. Steel rim brakes were >>> very problematic. >> >> Are we talking about motorcycles or bicycles? I have one bicycle with a >> disk brake and I haven't noticed it grabbing. > > Riding in a park downhill I suddenly came upon a doe and her fawn. > The disk brakes grabbed hard enough to make me skid and the rear > tire moved sideways. Once, as a kid, riding on a beach street I suddenly found an accident after a curve. I braked hard, with rim brakes. The rear wheel tire was eaten by the asphalt till puncturing the inner tube. I noticed that the next day. These were the years of the first time there was crude supply trouble (1970?), and there was scarcity of tires. No 500 dia wheels. My father managed to put a piece of rubber from another tire in the hole. Later we found a white tire, which I hated. I wanted a normal black tire. Girls used white. > >> otoh with rim brakes I once >> blew a tube on a long descent when the rim was too hot to touch. At least >> with a disk you don't have that problem. >> >> I read 'road bike' as opposed to 'dirt bike' as a motorcycle. > > -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-18 19:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mli9ebFkdviU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76311 |
On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 08:53:43 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Riding in a park downhill I suddenly came upon a doe and her fawn. > The disk brakes grabbed hard enough to make me skid and the rear tire > moved sideways. The Motorcycle Safety Foundation offers several courses. One of the exercises is learning to control a rear wheel skid in a simulated panic stop. Assuming the front brake is effective the weight transfer is going to leave the rear tire very light. It doesn't take much to lock it up and have it move sideways. You get the same effect in four wheel vehicles but the braking systems usually are designed to minimize the problem. After a camping trip in Vermont's Green Mountains I got back to the trail head, threw my stuff in the pickup rapidly since it was raining, and headed off down the road. In my absence a porcupine had chewed through a front brake hose and a heater hose. The first thing I noticed was the rear brakes on a F150 don't do much to slow you down. Then the steam started. I could fix the cooling system but getting down the mountain with minimal brakes was fun.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-18 22:55 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ffbdslxj75.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76329 |
On 2025-10-18 21:51, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 08:53:43 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >> Riding in a park downhill I suddenly came upon a doe and her fawn. >> The disk brakes grabbed hard enough to make me skid and the rear tire >> moved sideways. > > The Motorcycle Safety Foundation offers several courses. One of the > exercises is learning to control a rear wheel skid in a simulated panic > stop. Assuming the front brake is effective the weight transfer is going > to leave the rear tire very light. It doesn't take much to lock it up and > have it move sideways. > > You get the same effect in four wheel vehicles but the braking systems > usually are designed to minimize the problem. After a camping trip in > Vermont's Green Mountains I got back to the trail head, threw my stuff in > the pickup rapidly since it was raining, and headed off down the road. In > my absence a porcupine had chewed through a front brake hose and a heater > hose. The first thing I noticed was the rear brakes on a F150 don't do > much to slow you down. Then the steam started. I could fix the cooling > system but getting down the mountain with minimal brakes was fun. That must be the reason some cars have pipes with a wire mesh wrap :-) -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-19 02:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlj0u4FofjbU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76331 |
On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 22:55:43 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > That must be the reason some cars have pipes with a wire mesh wrap That might deter a porcupine but they would just eat something else. In the northeast salt is commonly used on the roads in the winter so most vehicles have residue and porkies love salt. They will chew on tool handles, outhouse seats, or anything else with salt. Some of the summer camps in the Adirondacks started building plywood rowboats for the guests. The glue apparently has some form of sodium so the porcupines would delaminate the boats over the winter. The North American version is an excellent climber so it's hard to keep anything out of their reach.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-19 13:31 +0200 |
| Subject | Nuisance fauna [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] |
| Message-ID | <jpueslxf95.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76340 |
On 2025-10-19 04:32, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 22:55:43 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> That must be the reason some cars have pipes with a wire mesh wrap > > That might deter a porcupine but they would just eat something else. In > the northeast salt is commonly used on the roads in the winter so most > vehicles have residue and porkies love salt. They will chew on tool > handles, outhouse seats, or anything else with salt. Some of the summer > camps in the Adirondacks started building plywood rowboats for the guests. > The glue apparently has some form of sodium so the porcupines would > delaminate the boats over the winter. The North American version is an > excellent climber so it's hard to keep anything out of their reach. > Ouch. Over here, the problem are pigeons and wild boars. And rats, of course, but we never see them. And cockroaches. No ice in my corner of the country, so no salt. Except on the sea. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-19 08:41 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10d24n9$2bb83$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76289 |
On 10/17/25 23:16, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 17:38:04 +0100, Pancho wrote: > >> On 10/17/25 12:58, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>> rbowman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >>> >>>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 13:43:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 10/16/25 11:59, rbowman wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:43:54 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh, that's a tricky one. Thank goodness major issues like the >>>>>>> placement of clutch and brake pedals has been standardized... >>>>>> >>>>>> iirc early Brit bikes had the shifter on the right. Of course. >>> >>> My road bike has shifters on both sides. And they double as brakes. >>> >>>>> To the best of my recollection you are correct and I had problems >>>>> from moving from my Allstate Twingle 175 cc 2 cycle, made in > Austria >>>>> by Puck, Steyr Daimler to my BSA Single 4 stroke iron head single >>>>> 500 cc and got a ticket as a result of trying to stop with the >>>>> shifter instead of the brake pedal. >>>>> >>>>> I was a different person in my youth as most of us are. >>>> >>>> Still riding. Some year I'll have to park the bikes but not this year. >>>> I seldom use the foot pedal anymore since front disks became so >>>> effective. My first bike was a '55 Harley with a cable operated drum >>>> brake in front. That needed all the help it could get to stop. It was >>>> so ineffective you didn't get much weight transfer so there wasn't >>>> much danger of locking up the rear. >>> >>> On a road bike you have to be careful about using the front brake. >>> Those disk brakes can get pretty grabby. >>> >> Disk brakes are less grabby than rim brakes, they tend to offer more >> even retarding force than rim brakes. I think they call it better >> modulation. >> >> My perception is that prior to disk brakes, rim brakes had also got a >> lot better. Better than from when I was a kid. Steel rim brakes were >> very problematic. > > Are we talking about motorcycles or bicycles? I have one bicycle with a > disk brake and I haven't noticed it grabbing. otoh with rim brakes I once > blew a tube on a long descent when the rim was too hot to touch. At least > with a disk you don't have that problem. > > I read 'road bike' as opposed to 'dirt bike' as a motorcycle. Yeah, sorry, I take road bike to mean a pedal bicycle. Disk brakes are relatively recent for pedal bicycles, whereas motorcycles have had disk brakes for decades. (I guess they had drum brakes before?) So I assumed pedal bicycle. One thing that has always puzzled me about sporty motorcycles is, why do they have two disk brakes on the front wheel. One per wheel is enough for my much heavier car.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-19 11:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10d2dos$2dnk0$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76349 |
On 19/10/2025 08:41, Pancho wrote: > One thing that has always puzzled me about sporty motorcycles is, why do > they have two disk brakes on the front wheel. One per wheel is enough > for my much heavier car. Do you spend your entire time braking from high speed every 15 seconds? I was doing about 110mph (before speed cameras were everywhere) when I saw a stopped car ahead. By the time I was at 15mph the brakes had completely gone. There was just enough left to stop... Twin disks have more capacity to absorb heat in a smaller volume. -- Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that don't protect, masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-19 20:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mll1mfF3kj4U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76357 |
On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 11:15:56 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 19/10/2025 08:41, Pancho wrote: >> One thing that has always puzzled me about sporty motorcycles is, why >> do they have two disk brakes on the front wheel. One per wheel is >> enough for my much heavier car. > > Do you spend your entire time braking from high speed every 15 seconds? > > I was doing about 110mph (before speed cameras were everywhere) when I > saw a stopped car ahead. By the time I was at 15mph the brakes had > completely gone. > > There was just enough left to stop... > Twin disks have more capacity to absorb heat in a smaller volume. From an engineering standpoint 2 disks with a smaller diameter may weight less than 1 larger one reducing unsprung weight but I would think the two calipers would offset that. Buell had a innovative design where the disk was bolted to the rim rather than the hub. That gave it a lot more swept area and only one was used. https://www.motorcycleforum.com/threads/crazy-buell-front-brake-discs-yea- or-nay.82626/ Buell apparently has been reborn. He had worked for Harley and the bikes were sold at Harley dealerships but Harley decided they wanted to focus on the traditional Harleys.
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