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  Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-25 02:45 -0400
    Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-25 09:04 +0200
      Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-25 03:08 -0400
        Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-25 12:36 +0200
          Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-26 03:17 -0400
        Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-25 12:33 +0200
          Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-26 03:16 -0400
            Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-26 13:23 +0000
              Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-26 08:07 -0700
    Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-25 23:22 +0100
      Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-25 16:21 -0700
    Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-26 04:23 +0000
      Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-26 04:00 -0400
        Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:09 +0000
          Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-27 03:55 -0400
      Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 07:42 -0700
        Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-26 08:15 -0700
          Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 19:16 +0000
          Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-30 09:58 +0000
            Re: Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-30 06:50 -0400

#72225 — Warning - Win-11 "Update" May WIPE Your SSDs

https://www.gbnews.com/tech/updating-windows-11-this-weekend-could-cause-the-ssds-with-all-of-your-files-to-vanish-pc-owners-warned

You might want to hold off on installing the latest Windows 11
update this weekend. Microsoft has confirmed that it's examining
a growing number of reports that its newest version of Windows
11 is experiencing serious issues with SSDs – the solid-state
drives used to store your apps and files on most modern laptops
and desktop PCs.

If you've installed the latest update, released earlier this
month, your Solid-State Drive (SSD) could vanish from the Windows
11 system due to a frustrating new glitch. A spokesperson for
Microsoft told PC Mag: "We're aware of these reports and
are investigating with our partners."

. . .

   Just great !

   Oh well, what ya get for sticking with M$

   SSDs are almost ubiquitous these days ... mag
   hard drives are now more for high-cap needs,
   servers/data-centers.

   Got backups ? Most humans DON'T keep any.
   "Hey ! Where did all my irreplacable files
   go to ???"

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#72226

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>You might want to hold off on installing the latest Windows 11
>update this weekend.

That's why you're posting this on a Linux newsgroup?

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#72227

On 8/25/25 3:04 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>> You might want to hold off on installing the latest Windows 11
>> update this weekend.
> 
> That's why you're posting this on a Linux newsgroup?

   Because a lot of us have or do have to deal
   with "mixed environments". If the office Win
   boxes all fry they'll call YOUR ass to deal
   with it. Typical medium office may have one
   or two Linux servers - but the rest use Win.

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#72232

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>On 8/25/25 3:04 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>> You might want to hold off on installing the latest Windows 11
>>> update this weekend.
>> 
>> That's why you're posting this on a Linux newsgroup?
>
>   Because a lot of us have or do have to deal
>   with "mixed environments". If the office Win
>   boxes all fry they'll call YOUR ass to deal
>   with it. Typical medium office may have one
>   or two Linux servers - but the rest use Win.

You very obviously have not understood a thing. That's not a surprise.

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#72272

On 8/25/25 6:36 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>> On 8/25/25 3:04 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
>>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>> You might want to hold off on installing the latest Windows 11
>>>> update this weekend.
>>>
>>> That's why you're posting this on a Linux newsgroup?
>>
>>    Because a lot of us have or do have to deal
>>    with "mixed environments". If the office Win
>>    boxes all fry they'll call YOUR ass to deal
>>    with it. Typical medium office may have one
>>    or two Linux servers - but the rest use Win.
> 
> You very obviously have not understood a thing. That's not a surprise.

   You very obviously have not understood a thing.
   That's not a surprise.

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#72233

On 2025-08-25 09:08, c186282 wrote:
> On 8/25/25 3:04 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>> You might want to hold off on installing the latest Windows 11
>>> update this weekend.
>>
>> That's why you're posting this on a Linux newsgroup?
> 
>    Because a lot of us have or do have to deal
>    with "mixed environments". If the office Win
>    boxes all fry they'll call YOUR ass to deal
>    with it. Typical medium office may have one
>    or two Linux servers - but the rest use Win.

So we subscribe to Windows groups. No need to hear about this in a Linux 
group.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#72271

On 8/25/25 6:33 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-08-25 09:08, c186282 wrote:
>> On 8/25/25 3:04 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
>>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>> You might want to hold off on installing the latest Windows 11
>>>> update this weekend.
>>>
>>> That's why you're posting this on a Linux newsgroup?
>>
>>    Because a lot of us have or do have to deal
>>    with "mixed environments". If the office Win
>>    boxes all fry they'll call YOUR ass to deal
>>    with it. Typical medium office may have one
>>    or two Linux servers - but the rest use Win.
> 
> So we subscribe to Windows groups. No need to hear about this in a Linux 
> group.

   But you're gonna.

   Win POLLUTES The IX-verse.

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#72300

On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 03:16:55 -0400, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in
<6vWdnXLVj4f1wjD1nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> On 8/25/25 6:33 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-08-25 09:08, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 8/25/25 3:04 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
>>>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>>> You might want to hold off on installing the latest Windows 11
>>>>> update this weekend.
>>>>
>>>> That's why you're posting this on a Linux newsgroup?
>>>
>>>    Because a lot of us have or do have to deal
>>>    with "mixed environments". If the office Win
>>>    boxes all fry they'll call YOUR ass to deal
>>>    with it. Typical medium office may have one
>>>    or two Linux servers - but the rest use Win.
>> 
>> So we subscribe to Windows groups. No need to hear about this in a Linux 
>> group.
> 
>    But you're gonna.
> 
>    Win POLLUTES The IX-verse.

 ...thanks to off-topic posters like you.

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   OS: Linux 6.16.2 D: Mint 22.1 DE: Xfce 4.18 
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#72305

On 8/26/25 06:23, vallor wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 03:16:55 -0400, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in
> <6vWdnXLVj4f1wjD1nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>:
> 
>> On 8/25/25 6:33 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-08-25 09:08, c186282 wrote:
>>>> On 8/25/25 3:04 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
>>>>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>>>> You might want to hold off on installing the latest Windows 11
>>>>>> update this weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's why you're posting this on a Linux newsgroup?
>>>>
>>>>     Because a lot of us have or do have to deal
>>>>     with "mixed environments". If the office Win
>>>>     boxes all fry they'll call YOUR ass to deal
>>>>     with it. Typical medium office may have one
>>>>     or two Linux servers - but the rest use Win.
>>>
>>> So we subscribe to Windows groups. No need to hear about this in a Linux
>>> group.
>>
>>     But you're gonna.
>>
>>     Win POLLUTES The IX-verse.
> 
>   ...thanks to off-topic posters like you.
> 

	Frankly I do not care if people who may have to use Microsloth products 
for
economic or other reasons learn about problems in Linux newsgroups because
the Windows newsgroups are not where many but the single-minded users of
those products hang out.
	Meantime if the Linux systems information is posted to WIndows users
newsgroups  they may come over to the proper side of digital history.

But let us not descend to advocacy levels.  I looked at advocacy groups 
in my
now distant middling age and was repelled by the violence of the rhetoric.

bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.08- Linux 6.12.43-pclos1- KDE 
Plasma 6.4.4

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#72265

On 2025-08-25, c186282 wrote:

> https://www.gbnews.com/tech/updating-windows-11-this-weekend-could-cause-the-ssds-with-all-of-your-files-to-vanish-pc-owners-warned
>
> You might want to hold off on installing the latest Windows 11
> update this weekend.

I'm not acquainted with this Linux distribution. Is it the usual
GNU/Linux, or is it something else? I actually thought there was
something like that name, "Windows NT", also from Microsoft, which was,
(IIRC not out of the box) POSIX-compliant to some extent - but that
wasn't a Linux system?

Well, do you know if this "Windows" has some of the usual amenities,
like a good visual editor (say, Emacs or vi or vim?), window managers
with virtual desktops (well, it is called "windows", so I'll guess it's
good at managing windows? surely something with this name must have been
one of the first systems to support virtual desktops), UTF-8 support,
plug-and-play use of external displays that can be easily controlled
with command line utilities, seamless integration of remote graphical
applications, a text-based online manual or decent terminal emulators?


And do you know if it comes with a 100% compatible Korn shell?

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#72266

On 8/25/25 15:22, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2025-08-25, c186282 wrote:
> 
>> https://www.gbnews.com/tech/updating-windows-11-this-weekend-could-cause-the-ssds-with-all-of-your-files-to-vanish-pc-owners-warned
>>
>> You might want to hold off on installing the latest Windows 11
>> update this weekend.
> 
> I'm not acquainted with this Linux distribution. Is it the usual
> GNU/Linux, or is it something else? I actually thought there was
> something like that name, "Windows NT", also from Microsoft, which was,
> (IIRC not out of the box) POSIX-compliant to some extent - but that
> wasn't a Linux system?
> 
> Well, do you know if this "Windows" has some of the usual amenities,
> like a good visual editor (say, Emacs or vi or vim?), window managers
> with virtual desktops (well, it is called "windows", so I'll guess it's
> good at managing windows? surely something with this name must have been
> one of the first systems to support virtual desktops), UTF-8 support,
> plug-and-play use of external displays that can be easily controlled
> with command line utilities, seamless integration of remote graphical
> applications, a text-based online manual or decent terminal emulators?
> 
> 
> And do you know if it comes with a 100% compatible Korn shell?
> 

	It might some day but I doubt it has even a bash compatible shell.
	No Windows 11 is not Linux but it may have Virtual Desktops
	 I admire your sense of humor.
	NT was supposed to be pretty good but it was not a -nix of any sort.
	Windows 11 might be better after a few updates but it messes with
the UEFI partition every time it gets a new kernel and they never tell you
that you have just installed a new kernel so do not use it in a dual-boot
Window/Linux situation.
	I love your sense of humor.

	bliss

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#72270

On 2025-08-25, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

>    Got backups ? Most humans DON'T keep any.
>    "Hey ! Where did all my irreplacable files
>    go to ???"

The Cloud?  A friend once lost a lot of valuable
photos to a Cloud glitch.

"There is no Cloud.  It's just someone else's computer."

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#72280

On 8/26/25 12:23 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-08-25, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>>     Got backups ? Most humans DON'T keep any.
>>     "Hey ! Where did all my irreplacable files
>>     go to ???"
> 
> The Cloud?  A friend once lost a lot of valuable
> photos to a Cloud glitch.
> 
> "There is no Cloud.  It's just someone else's computer."

   Hey, Local+Cloud IS the paradigm. Never trust
   one or another.

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#72363

On 2025-08-26, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

> On 8/26/25 12:23 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On 2025-08-25, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>> 
>>>     Got backups ? Most humans DON'T keep any.
>>>     "Hey ! Where did all my irreplacable files
>>>     go to ???"
>> 
>> The Cloud?  A friend once lost a lot of valuable
>> photos to a Cloud glitch.
>> 
>> "There is no Cloud.  It's just someone else's computer."
>
>    Hey, Local+Cloud IS the paradigm. Never trust
>    one or another.

The Cloud is great for distribution, but that's about it.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#72375

On 8/26/25 8:09 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-08-26, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/26/25 12:23 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-08-25, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>      Got backups ? Most humans DON'T keep any.
>>>>      "Hey ! Where did all my irreplacable files
>>>>      go to ???"
>>>
>>> The Cloud?  A friend once lost a lot of valuable
>>> photos to a Cloud glitch.
>>>
>>> "There is no Cloud.  It's just someone else's computer."
>>
>>     Hey, Local+Cloud IS the paradigm. Never trust
>>     one or another.
> 
> The Cloud is great for distribution, but that's about it.

   M$ runs pretty much its whole office/etc platform via
   'cloud' these days. Lots of profit.

   Until Vlad's boyz decide to erase it ...

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#72304

On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 04:23:05 GMT
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:

> "There is no Cloud.  It's just someone else's computer."

(Shhh, you're not supposed to *say* it...!)

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#72306

On 8/26/25 07:42, John Ames wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 04:23:05 GMT
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> "There is no Cloud.  It's just someone else's computer."
> 
> (Shhh, you're not supposed to *say* it...!)
> 

	Yes it is another computer somewhere else and
not on your power line or in your home.
	Due to "cloud" backup the PCLinuxOS Users Forum
was back online in less than a week after a fire destroyed
the computers in a supporter of the Forums home.

	So computers not belonging to you to which you
back up appropriate information are useful tools.
	On the other hand I do not use any part of
the "cloud" myself.

bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.08- Linux 6.12.42-pclos1- KDE 
Plasma 6.4.4

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#72326

On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 08:15:41 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

> 	So computers not belonging to you to which you
> back up appropriate information are useful tools.
> 	On the other hand I do not use any part of
> the "cloud" myself.

Are you sure? Perhaps not explicitly but it's hard to avoid. 

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#72735

Le 26-08-2025, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> a écrit :
>
>
> On 8/26/25 07:42, John Ames wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 04:23:05 GMT
>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> "There is no Cloud.  It's just someone else's computer."
>> 
>> (Shhh, you're not supposed to *say* it...!)
>
> 	Yes it is another computer somewhere else and
> not on your power line or in your home.

It's not another computer somewhere else. It's a lot of computers in a
lot of other places. It's very different from a single server on a
single data center as this sentence imply.

When OVH took fire a few years ago every one had fun with them because
It wasn't a real cloud and it crashed hard for some of their customers.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#72737

On 8/30/25 5:58 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 26-08-2025, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> a écrit :
>>
>>
>> On 8/26/25 07:42, John Ames wrote:
>>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 04:23:05 GMT
>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "There is no Cloud.  It's just someone else's computer."
>>>
>>> (Shhh, you're not supposed to *say* it...!)
>>
>> 	Yes it is another computer somewhere else and
>> not on your power line or in your home.
> 
> It's not another computer somewhere else. It's a lot of computers in a
> lot of other places. It's very different from a single server on a
> single data center as this sentence imply.

   Hey, that was the Old Reality. Can still
   have at least 'moral' value.

   Today, your stuff is EVERYWHERE, spied on
   by EVERYONE.

> When OVH took fire a few years ago every one had fun with them because
> It wasn't a real cloud and it crashed hard for some of their customers.

   Vlad/Xi have proven they can crash EVERYTHING
   on a whim.

   Using bank routing numbers for accounts - ALL your
   money will suddenly go to N.Korea in an INSTANT.
   No way to address it.

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