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Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved

Started byc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
First post2025-07-27 03:11 -0400
Last post2025-07-29 21:47 +0100
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  Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 03:11 -0400
    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 12:05 +0100
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 17:53 -0400
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 05:13 +0000
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-28 02:34 -0400
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 20:59 +0000
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 22:28 +0100
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:15 +0200
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 02:42 +0000
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:18 +0100
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-29 03:35 -0400
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 19:39 +0000
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 09:46 +0200
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-29 09:56 +0100
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 20:33 +0200
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 02:46 +0000
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-29 09:14 +1000
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 02:41 +0000
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-21 07:48 +1000
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 03:50 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:10 +1000
    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-27 14:06 +0200
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-27 18:21 +0000
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 18:00 -0400
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 05:10 +0000
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:24 +0100
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-29 03:38 -0400
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 10:50 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-29 10:57 +0100
                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 13:10 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:13 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 19:46 +0000
                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:16 +0100
                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 00:30 +0000
                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 00:35 +0000
                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-29 17:51 -0700
                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 04:44 +0000
                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 02:03 -0400
                            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:22 +0100
                              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 18:24 +0000
                                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 23:36 -0400
                                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 06:31 +0000
                                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 13:50 +0100
                            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-30 07:46 -0700
                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 02:21 -0400
                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:25 +0100
                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 19:13 +0000
                            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 01:02 +0100
                              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 03:18 +0000
                                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 13:39 +0100
                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 18:36 +0000
                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-30 06:31 +0000
                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:28 +0100
                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 19:24 +0000
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-29 10:16 -0700
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 19:35 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 20:35 +0100
                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 00:28 +0000
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 19:50 +0000
                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:19 +0100
                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 17:40 +0200
                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 00:56 +0100
                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-31 06:01 +0200
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 22:21 -0400
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 05:17 +0000
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:26 +0100
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-28 15:56 +0100
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 16:54 +0100
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 09:50 +0200
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 10:57 +0100
    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-27 17:49 +0100
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 17:55 -0400
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 22:37 -0400
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-28 06:34 +0100
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-28 03:28 -0400
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-28 08:36 +0100
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:29 +0100
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-29 04:05 -0400
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 11:08 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202507.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2025-07-29 13:45 +0200
                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-30 08:59 +1000
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-28 21:46 +0000
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 09:52 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 10:59 +0100
                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 20:39 +0200
                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:03 +0100
                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-07-30 08:12 +0000
                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:30 +0100
                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 19:33 +0000
                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 22:20 +0200
                            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 03:21 +0000
                              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-31 06:01 +0200
                                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 06:23 +0000
                                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 13:58 +0100
                                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 14:44 +0100
                                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:39 +0000
                                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:27 +0000
                                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 14:04 +0100
                                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:49 +0000
                                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-31 22:49 -0400
                                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 08:11 +0100
                                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-01 14:07 +0200
                                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 18:00 +0100
                                            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-01 19:58 +0200
                                              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-01 20:37 +0000
                                                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 03:36 +0200
                                                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-02 06:23 +0000
                                              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 02:34 -0400
                                                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 14:05 +0200
                                                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-02 14:35 +0100
                                                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 21:25 -0400
                                                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 05:48 +0000
                                                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 01:53 -0400
                                                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-08-03 03:36 +0000
                                                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 01:25 -0400
                                                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 05:43 +0000
                                                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-02 20:01 +0000
                                                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 22:56 +0200
                                                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 05:34 +0000
                                                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-08-03 08:53 -0400
                                                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 17:38 +0000
                                                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-03 08:26 +0100
                                                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 04:06 -0400
                                                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-03 09:50 +0100
                                                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 21:09 -0400
                                                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-03 15:54 +0200
                                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 20:01 +0200
                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 23:25 -0400
                            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 06:35 +0000
                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 17:43 +0200
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:27 +0100
    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-28 08:44 -0700
      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 16:56 +0100
        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:23 +0200
          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 13:40 +0100
            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 20:42 +0200
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:11 +0100
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 17:43 +0200
                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-31 00:09 -0400
                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 20:07 +0200
                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:55 +0000
                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 22:25 +0200
                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-01 09:09 +1000
                            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-01 00:54 -0400
                              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 08:35 +0100
                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-01 01:44 +0000
                            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-31 22:52 -0400
                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 08:25 +0100
                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 08:14 +0100
                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 01:34 -0400
                            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 08:50 -0700
                              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-04 19:00 +0100
                                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 11:11 -0700
                                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 11:01 +0100
                                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 12:32 +0200
                                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 11:47 +0100
                                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 12:58 +0200
                                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 12:58 +0100
                                            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 21:32 +0200
                                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:20 +0200
                                            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 21:25 +0200
                                              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 07:48 +0200
                                                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 12:52 +0200
                                                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 13:52 +0200
                                                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 14:20 +0200
                                                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 16:07 +0200
                                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:20 +0200
                                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 14:49 +0100
                                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:19 +0200
                                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:18 +0200
                                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 14:38 +0100
                                      Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 21:27 +0200
                                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 20:44 +0100
                                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 12:57 +0200
                                            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 12:02 +0100
                                              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 14:23 +0200
                                                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 13:33 +0100
                                                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 15:55 +0100
                                                    Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 16:23 +0100
                                        Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 07:49 +0200
                                          Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-06 08:21 +0200
                                            Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 11:11 +0200
                                              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-06 12:08 +0200
                                                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 11:18 +0100
                                                  Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 13:53 +0200
                                                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 13:52 +0200
              Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 22:18 +0200
                Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:47 +0100

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#70204

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-07-31 19:55 +0000
Message-ID<mf200sFess4U6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#70200
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:07:35 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Does somebody make routers with external aerials for 4G or 5G? Hopefully
> directional.

It doesn't come with an antenna but my wireless router does have ports for 
external antennas. I tried a couple of vertical dipoles and it didn't add 
much. I never got around to installing a directional outside.

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#70205

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-07-31 22:25 +0200
Message-ID<330tllxu7r.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#70204
On 2025-07-31 21:55, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:07:35 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> Does somebody make routers with external aerials for 4G or 5G? Hopefully
>> directional.
> 
> It doesn't come with an antenna but my wireless router does have ports for
> external antennas. I tried a couple of vertical dipoles and it didn't add
> much. I never got around to installing a directional outside.

I hope they were antenas for the cellular network, not for the WiFi 
side? Just asking :-)

Time ago, there were designs for building your own directional antena 
for WiFi. Maybe there are now for cellular routers. Surely many people 
are in that situation. Even by building a parabolic with the router inside.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#70208

Fromnot@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date2025-08-01 09:09 +1000
Message-ID<688bf7aa@news.ausics.net>
In reply to#70205
Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-07-31 21:55, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:07:35 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> Does somebody make routers with external aerials for 4G or 5G? Hopefully
>>> directional.
>> 
>> It doesn't come with an antenna but my wireless router does have ports for
>> external antennas. I tried a couple of vertical dipoles and it didn't add
>> much. I never got around to installing a directional outside.
> 
> I hope they were antenas for the cellular network, not for the WiFi 
> side? Just asking :-)

The 4G USB modem I use connected to my home router has ports for
antennas, in use with some stubby ones for a slight improvement
in reliability (but I still get signal outages since 3G was
turned off). You need two antennas for 4G since there are two
radios used with polarised transmition (so rotate the antennas
90 degrees apart). Some modems might even use four antennas.

I read 5G can use up to 64 antennas or more, so I've got no idea
how the (MIMO) antennas for that work, it's getting into "magic"
territory. For my own use I don't care, the 4G speed is way in
excess of what I need. I want 3G back so it works all the time in
the first place.

> Time ago, there were designs for building your own directional antena 
> for WiFi. Maybe there are now for cellular routers. Surely many people 
> are in that situation. Even by building a parabolic with the router inside.

I'm in the process of setting up a DIY parabolic antenna outside
for 4G now. Most designs online are for 3G, but can be adapted. The
modem won't be inside the parabola, but close by to keep the coax
length short. Then I'll try making an extra-long USB extension
cable running back to the router indoors. Weatherproofing and
mounting it high enough are the tricky parts.

-- 
__          __
#_ < |\| |< _#

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#70214

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-08-01 00:54 -0400
Message-ID<cYSdnUhL0-EP1RH1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#70208
Thanks for the suggestions to link the ethernet
ports on my new router into the wifi universe.
Unfortunately, modern trend, this new device
is just TOO STUPID - there are no settings that
can adjust these settings.

Hell, the extent of the broadband settings
is the MTU.

Just horrible !

Expect worse in the future.

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#70219

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-01 08:35 +0100
Message-ID<106hqob$88k1$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70214
On 01/08/2025 05:54, c186282 wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions to link the ethernet
> ports on my new router into the wifi universe.
> Unfortunately, modern trend, this new device
> is just TOO STUPID - there are no settings that
> can adjust these settings.
> 
No, you don't need to adjust settings on your MAIN router.
Only if you want to use it as a slave WiFi point.

You can buy a perfectly good Ethernet connected wifi point

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-TL-WA801N-Wireless-Supports-Multi-SSID/dp/B08GS211V9

That will draw power either from an external PSU or via PoE and its 
Ethernet connection.

In practice all you have to do is give it an SSID and a password and 
maybe an IP address (it will come with a default one so you can set it 
up via the Ethernet) and that's it

It simply will transfer its wireless clients packets to the main router 
and probably spoof their MAC addresses as well,  so as far as your 
router is concerned all its (wifi points) clients are simply on its 
Ethernet network...


-- 
"An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out 
only in others...”

Tom Wolfe

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#70210

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-08-01 01:44 +0000
Message-ID<mf2kgiFess4U7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#70205
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 22:25:39 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:


> I hope they were antenas for the cellular network, not for the WiFi
> side? Just asking

No, the 4G side. What I got are cheap omnis:

https://www.amazon.com/Bingfu-Magnetic-Compatible-Industrial-Amplifier/dp/
B08DG87HBV



> 
> Time ago, there were designs for building your own directional antena
> for WiFi. Maybe there are now for cellular routers. Surely many people
> are in that situation. Even by building a parabolic with the router
> inside.

Pringles cans were used a lot but this site claims they're not the right 
diameter.

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-make-a-wifi-antenna-out-of-a-
pringles-can-nb/

They would work better at 5 GHz than 2.4. Working at higher frequencies 
makes life easier. I build a Quagi for the 2M (144 MHz) amateur band and 
you didn't hide it in a chip can. However I did have a reliable connection 
to a repeater about 80 miles away using a 5W handheld.

http://www.overbeck.com/quagi.htm

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#70213

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-07-31 22:52 -0400
Message-ID<r7adnR0SyNabsRH1nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#70210
On 7/31/25 9:44 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 22:25:39 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
> 
>> I hope they were antenas for the cellular network, not for the WiFi
>> side? Just asking
> 
> No, the 4G side. What I got are cheap omnis:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Bingfu-Magnetic-Compatible-Industrial-Amplifier/dp/
> B08DG87HBV
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Time ago, there were designs for building your own directional antena
>> for WiFi. Maybe there are now for cellular routers. Surely many people
>> are in that situation. Even by building a parabolic with the router
>> inside.
> 
> Pringles cans were used a lot but this site claims they're not the right
> diameter.
> 
> https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-make-a-wifi-antenna-out-of-a-
> pringles-can-nb/
> 
> They would work better at 5 GHz than 2.4. Working at higher frequencies
> makes life easier. I build a Quagi for the 2M (144 MHz) amateur band and
> you didn't hide it in a chip can. However I did have a reliable connection
> to a repeater about 80 miles away using a 5W handheld.
> 
> http://www.overbeck.com/quagi.htm

   There are two flavors of 'wireless'. The old
   one was JUST the wi-fi ... and you could try
   lots of tricks depending on your physical
   setup. Newest stuff though are 5G cell routers
   WITH wi-fi. You might make a reflector for one,
   but it'll also restrict the other to some rather
   specific direction. Ugly.

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#70218

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-01 08:25 +0100
Message-ID<106hq5c$88k1$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70205
On 31/07/2025 21:25, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-07-31 21:55, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:07:35 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> Does somebody make routers with external aerials for 4G or 5G? Hopefully
>>> directional.
>>
>> It doesn't come with an antenna but my wireless router does have ports 
>> for
>> external antennas. I tried a couple of vertical dipoles and it didn't add
>> much. I never got around to installing a directional outside.
> 
> I hope they were antenas for the cellular network, not for the WiFi 
> side? Just asking :-)
> 
Would assume wifi...but depends on if its a router with a simcard

> Time ago, there were designs for building your own directional antena 
> for WiFi. 

Yup. They worked, too.

>Maybe there are now for cellular routers. Surely many people 
> are in that situation. Even by building a parabolic with the router inside.
> 
Cant remember what frequencies 4G/5G are on, but its somewhere above 
1GHZ and the wavelength is small enough that quite simple antennae can 
be used.
IIRC 2.4GHz (wifi, kitchen microwave, bluetooth, zigbee) is allowed to 
be widely used because it is useless in the rain.

This may be of interest

"There are a total of 9 different frequencies used in the UK used by the 
mobile networks to deliver their 2G, 3G, 4G and 5G mobile services."

     800MHz (Band 20)
     900MHz (Band 8)
     1400MHz SDL (Band 32)
     1800MHz (Band 3)
     2100MHz (Band 1)
     2300MHz (Band 40)
     2600MHz FDD (Band 7)
     2600MHz TDD (Band 38)
     3400MHz (Band 42)

Mmm. You wont get a *tuned* aerial that works across that lot. Quarter 
wave is in the inch range

Back in the day it was all 900MHz and you needed a special phone to get 1800

Then multiband became universal.




-- 
WOKE is an acronym... Without Originality, Knowledge or Education.

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#70217

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-01 08:14 +0100
Message-ID<106hpha$88k1$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70204
On 31/07/2025 20:55, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:07:35 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> Does somebody make routers with external aerials for 4G or 5G? Hopefully
>> directional.
> 
> It doesn't come with an antenna but my wireless router does have ports for
> external antennas. I tried a couple of vertical dipoles and it didn't add
> much. I never got around to installing a directional outside.

Back in the day I was briefly involved with a company putting up 
community wifi points.
They could get a couple of kilometres out of a 2,4GHz link with 
carefully aligned antennae.

Mind you my radio control sets that run on 2,4GHz can do a couple of 
hundred metres no sweat, with simple stub antennae.



-- 
WOKE is an acronym... Without Originality, Knowledge or Education.

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#70247

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-08-02 01:34 -0400
Message-ID<0-qcnbNcefT6PhD1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#70217
On 8/1/25 3:14 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 31/07/2025 20:55, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:07:35 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> Does somebody make routers with external aerials for 4G or 5G? Hopefully
>>> directional.
>>
>> It doesn't come with an antenna but my wireless router does have ports 
>> for
>> external antennas. I tried a couple of vertical dipoles and it didn't add
>> much. I never got around to installing a directional outside.
> 
> Back in the day I was briefly involved with a company putting up 
> community wifi points.
> They could get a couple of kilometres out of a 2,4GHz link with 
> carefully aligned antennae.
> 
> Mind you my radio control sets that run on 2,4GHz can do a couple of 
> hundred metres no sweat, with simple stub antennae.

   My new router is corp-supplied - that's all
   you can get. It has NO antenna jack.

   In theory I could make a 'reflector' to boost
   the 5G ... but that'd also seriously limit
   the scope of the wi-fi and I need kinda
   360 there.

   I bought a 'booster' but it's gonna be a pain
   to install. I'm too old for ladders anymore
   and my old house is like solid concrete and
   I'm only JUST so confident about where the
   old electric is threaded. Fiber-2-House is
   NOT yet offered in my area.

   There are no 5G towers really near me. All
   I (usually) get is ONE bar on the new router ...
   and, mid-day/high-use, that can keep disappearing.
   Data rate varies from 5mb to 45mb depending. If
   I wanna download a new Linux, 2am. Just got
   the latest full Antix ... not bad ... running
   in a VM.

   Alt providers ... NOT a great selection and most
   have payment/data plans I don't go for.

   Such is life ....

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#70332

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-04 08:50 -0700
Message-ID<20250804085049.000033f4@gmail.com>
In reply to#70247
On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 01:34:32 -0400
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

> My new router is corp-supplied - that's all you can get. It has NO
> antenna jack.

Again, I'm not clear on why you wouldn't just use the provider-provided
device as a modem and hang a separate router off that for the local
network, if its crappiness as a router is this much of an issue for you?

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#70334

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-04 19:00 +0100
Message-ID<106qsgc$2a4jn$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70332
On 04/08/2025 16:50, John Ames wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2025 01:34:32 -0400
> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>> My new router is corp-supplied - that's all you can get. It has NO
>> antenna jack.
> 
> Again, I'm not clear on why you wouldn't just use the provider-provided
> device as a modem and hang a separate router off that for the local
> network, if its crappiness as a router is this much of an issue for you?
> 
It is not clear if in fact it is usable like that..


-- 
Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle 
more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump 
their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the 
battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is 
that they are dead.
Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.

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#70336

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-04 11:11 -0700
Message-ID<20250804111121.00000308@gmail.com>
In reply to#70334
On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 19:00:44 +0100
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> It is not clear if in fact it is usable like that..

I can't imagine why it *wouldn't* be, unless they're sticking him with
some wireless-only device - which would be a first in my experience,
even among skeevy US telcos. If it's got an Ethernet jack on it, get a
non-garbage router and hang that off the connection from the modem/
router - presto, you've got a local network you can configure any damn
way you please.

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#70369

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-05 11:01 +0100
Message-ID<106skpf$2lst5$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70336
On 04/08/2025 19:11, John Ames wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 19:00:44 +0100
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> It is not clear if in fact it is usable like that..
> 
> I can't imagine why it *wouldn't* be, unless they're sticking him with
> some wireless-only device - which would be a first in my experience,
> even among skeevy US telcos. If it's got an Ethernet jack on it, get a
> non-garbage router and hang that off the connection from the modem/
> router - presto, you've got a local network you can configure any damn
> way you please.
> 

The trend amongst the Great Unwashed Ignorati... (GUI...)  is wifi 
everything.

Even my 3D printer has no RJ45, and no way to set a fixed IP address on 
its Wifi, I had to use the router to give it a specific DHCP slot..

Here the largest ISP - British Telecom - advertises nothing but wireless 
performance.

They prefer you leave the passwords the same as what is printed on the 
back so they can log in and tell what's wrong.

Mostly they say 'just reboot it'. Only router I have met that actually 
*needs* a regular reboot.



-- 
“People believe certain stories because everyone important tells them, 
and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them. 
Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, one’s 
agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of 
one’s suitability to be taken seriously.”

Paul Krugman

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#70372

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-08-05 12:32 +0200
Message-ID<l739mlxjk9.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#70369
On 2025-08-05 12:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Mostly they say 'just reboot it'. Only router I have met that actually 
> *needs* a regular reboot.

I had a router that hung.

I had to buy a power socket strip remotely controlled by ethernet; on 
the server I wrote an application that would ping the router constantly, 
and when it went down it would power cycle it.

Unfortunately, that power strip died soon.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#70373

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-05 11:47 +0100
Message-ID<106sngo$2nbai$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70372
On 05/08/2025 11:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> I had a router that hung.
> 
> I had to buy a power socket strip remotely controlled by ethernet; on 
> the server I wrote an application that would ping the router constantly, 
> and when it went down it would power cycle it.
> 
> Unfortunately, that power strip died soon.
LOl!

Its like renewable energy, it doesn't always work, so you spend more 
money trying to make it work and then that fails too.

And you realise a nuclear power station would have been cheaper and more 
reliable.,


-- 
Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead 
to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

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#70374

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-08-05 12:58 +0200
Message-ID<6o49mlxrhe.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#70373
On 2025-08-05 12:47, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 05/08/2025 11:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> I had a router that hung.
>>
>> I had to buy a power socket strip remotely controlled by ethernet; on 
>> the server I wrote an application that would ping the router 
>> constantly, and when it went down it would power cycle it.
>>
>> Unfortunately, that power strip died soon.
> LOl!
> 
> Its like renewable energy, it doesn't always work, so you spend more 
> money trying to make it work and then that fails too.
> 
> And you realise a nuclear power station would have been cheaper and more 
> reliable.,
> 
> 
Found my notes on the device. It was a very nice device, except that it died too soon.

http://gembird.nl/item.aspx?id=7416

EG-PMS2-LAN
EnerGenie Programmable surge protector with LAN interface

     YOUR SWITCH IS MY COMMAND
     EG-PMS2-LAN is an advanced surge protector with power management
  features. It is possible to individually switch 4 sockets on or off
  manually via your local network or Internet, by timer schedule, or by
  programmable special events (eg: switch on my scanner whenever I start
  Photoshop, or have my printer switched on only when I really print). With
  your free personal user account on EnerGenie.com you can manage your
  EG-PMS2-LAN via Internet from all over the world, even with your
  smartphone.
     Stay in control of all your electrical devices at home or in the office
     Program four sockets individually via LAN or Internet
     Switch electric devices on or off with your smartphone, wherever you are
     Protect your valuable equipment
     An advanced standby-killer for computer peripherals
     Perfect solution for security systems , sauna , aquariums, pet habitats,
     etc.

Features


   * Switch individual sockets on/off manually from your computer
   * Switch individual sockets on/off by a programmable timer schedule
   * Switch individual sockets on/off whenever a certain software event
     occurs (e.g. Windows/other software start-up/shutdown, print spooler
     starting and finishing its job, etc)
   * Because of the LAN interface and the built-in web-server, EG-PMS2-LAN
     can be accessed from any computer within your local network (via an
     Internet browser or Power manager software)
   * It is also possible to assign an external IP-address to EG-PMS2-LAN, to
     enable worldwide remote access via the Internet
   * No external IP-address at home? No problem. Create your own user account
     on EnerGenie.com to manage your EG-PMS2-LAN via Internet with any PC or
     smartphone. Switching on your coffee maker before setting off for home
     becomes a reality.
   * IP-filter 64-bit password protected data encryption guarantees secure
     Internet access to EG-PMS2-LAN
   * EG-PMS2-LAN has a built-in battery for the timer schedule, so the timer
     schedule remains active even when EG-PMS2-LAN is temporarily turned off.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#70375

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-08-05 12:58 +0100
Message-ID<106srkm$2o596$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70374
On 05/08/2025 11:58, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> EnerGenie Programmable surge protector with LAN interface
> 
>      YOUR SWITCH IS MY COMMAND
>      EG-PMS2-LAN is an advanced surge protector with power management
>   features. It is possible to individually switch 4 sockets on or off
>   manually via your local network or Internet, by timer schedule, or by
>   programmable special events (eg: switch on my scanner whenever I start
>   Photoshop, or have my printer switched on only when I really print). With
>   your free personal user account on EnerGenie.com you can manage your
>   EG-PMS2-LAN via Internet from all over the world, even with your
>   smartphone.

Back in the day we had a *modem* connected to a relay for when the 
internet connection *itself* needed rebooting!


-- 
“Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.”

H.L. Mencken, A Mencken Chrestomathy

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#70400

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-08-05 21:32 +0200
Message-ID<gq2amlxisb.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#70375
On 2025-08-05 13:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 05/08/2025 11:58, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> EnerGenie Programmable surge protector with LAN interface
>>
>>      YOUR SWITCH IS MY COMMAND
>>      EG-PMS2-LAN is an advanced surge protector with power management
>>   features. It is possible to individually switch 4 sockets on or off
>>   manually via your local network or Internet, by timer schedule, or by
>>   programmable special events (eg: switch on my scanner whenever I start
>>   Photoshop, or have my printer switched on only when I really print). 
>> With
>>   your free personal user account on EnerGenie.com you can manage your
>>   EG-PMS2-LAN via Internet from all over the world, even with your
>>   smartphone.
> 
> Back in the day we had a *modem* connected to a relay for when the 
> internet connection *itself* needed rebooting!

Oh, yes, I have done that. Not for myself, but for a big regional 
telephone 5ESSS switch aka exchange.

Not the normal way. Normally those things connected a serial terminal to 
a modem. A phone number was cheap for them, in a exchange! You dialed 
and were in. No security.

Instead, we had a cisco router connected to both internet and a dial up 
modem, and to 8 serial ports into the machine. If Internet failed, then 
we dialed in and got access to the 8 terminals.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#70382

FromMarc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us>
Date2025-08-05 15:20 +0200
Message-ID<106t0fg$17aoc$1@news1.tnib.de>
In reply to#70374
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>Found my notes on the device. It was a very nice device, except that it died too soon.
>
>http://gembird.nl/item.aspx?id=7416
>
>EG-PMS2-LAN
>EnerGenie Programmable surge protector with LAN interface

Those things have a really really bad reputation in my filter bubble.
Your experience adds to it.

Greetings
Marc
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