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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-11-24 23:48 +0000 |
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AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 09:37 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:21 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:35 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 23:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 04:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:40 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-10 18:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-11 11:00 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:39 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:31 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:09 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:03 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:28 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:04 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:19 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-13 19:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 07:09 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:06 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 11:32 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:45 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 22:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 14:30 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 21:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:30 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 16:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-16 18:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 18:59 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-16 13:43 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 02:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-17 07:58 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-17 17:38 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 22:16 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-18 08:53 -0400
Bikes [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:02 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-18 19:51 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 22:55 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:32 +0000
Nuisance fauna [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:31 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-19 08:41 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 00:23 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 03:32 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:34 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 23:22 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-21 08:54 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:22 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:21 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:07 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:42 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:11 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:47 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 08:19 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:50 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:32 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 20:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 11:53 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:32 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 21:52 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:44 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:34 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:23 -0400
Oil leaks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:13 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:29 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-20 20:48 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 04:10 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:39 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:48 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:34 -0400
Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:30 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-22 18:03 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:51 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:54 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:26 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-23 04:01 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:27 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:59 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 04:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 22:09 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:23 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 20:51 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:58 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 18:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 22:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:48 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-27 03:12 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 02:54 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:23 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:45 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-27 03:07 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 14:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 14:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 20:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-27 14:17 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 05:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:08 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-27 22:30 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-28 11:25 -0700
The Good Ol' Days of Computing? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:15 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-29 02:12 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 08:43 -0700
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-29 21:30 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 03:07 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 00:49 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 06:29 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 07:00 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 11:32 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:39 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 11:29 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:37 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:21 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 04:01 +0000
Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:21 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 16:53 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-27 13:48 -0400
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 20:53 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 13:56 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:30 -0400
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 08:15 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:44 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 12:51 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 15:39 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 02:14 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:52 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:37 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-27 10:18 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-27 13:42 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:18 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 19:28 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-10-24 03:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:21 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:57 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:23 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:35 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:13 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:38 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:17 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:29 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:59 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 19:09 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:49 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:38 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 13:05 -0700
Agriculture "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:25 +0200
Re: Agriculture rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:22 +0000
Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:21 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:14 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 15:06 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:01 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:09 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:40 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 21:22 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 01:54 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:20 +0200
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:28 -0400
Re: Vehicles The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 08:55 +0100
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 15:09 +0200
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 17:46 +0000
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:08 +0000
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 22:28 +0000
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:09 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 01:43 +0200
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 01:47 +0200
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-13 17:25 +0000
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:51 -0400
Pouring a coffee into a street drain. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 09:59 +0200
Re: Pouring a coffee into a street drain. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:43 +0000
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:45 -0400
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 00:32 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 23:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:50 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-19 14:24 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 06:04 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:48 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:52 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 01:02 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:39 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:33 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:33 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:37 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:38 -0400
Vehicles. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:35 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 17:36 +0000
Car inspections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 14:35 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 21:38 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 19:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-15 11:55 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-10-16 03:07 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:56 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 21:06 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-15 11:59 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:00 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:29 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-16 11:22 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:34 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 18:11 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 21:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 23:45 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 22:19 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-02 11:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:59 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 06:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-02 03:05 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-02 07:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:37 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:29 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 05:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2025-10-03 11:33 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:25 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 04:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 21:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:37 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 08:54 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 10:02 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:21 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:20 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-04 17:04 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-03 08:03 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 22:55 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:06 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-01 20:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:58 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-09-30 11:25 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 12:56 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:48 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:36 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:16 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-10-31 16:52 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-31 22:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 08:07 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 03:58 -0500
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-01 17:32 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:09 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:09 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:28 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:17 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-11-03 07:52 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-02 22:21 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-11-03 09:30 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-03 14:14 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:49 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-24 23:08 -0500
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-25 06:56 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 04:03 -0500
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:48 +0000
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-25 15:17 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <c8vuslx7a9.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76654 |
On 2025-10-25 04:38, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 22:13:13 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> Of course. But at places like that village that was impossible, the >> plots were too small. It comes from dividing the inheritance between >> your sons, and they marrying and geting another plot(s) from wife, >> generation after generation, for centuries. Plus, it is a valley and >> there are mountains, no much flat land. >> >> It is, was, survival agriculture, they cultivated what they could >> directly eat. No selling. They did not have money. They paid the doctor >> with eggs! > > The US motto is 'get big or get out'. Family farms have mostly been bought > up and consolidated by agribusiness that can afford the technology. Where > I grew up was dairy country. Almost all my friends who grew up on farms > sold the herds during a government buyback in the '80s. They were working > factory jobs to keep the farm afloat and saw a way out. 80 acres with > maybe 50 happy cows wandering around didn't cut it. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendell_Berry > > Berry has written a lot of nonfiction but I like his Port William stories. > It makes me nostalgic for a place that is no more and isn't coming back. > Maybe they can build a data center in Port William. I believe most of the people in my mother village emigrated. My grandparents were the first, 1930 perhaps. Now the village has people coming back, when they retire. So there is a bar or two. Some come back on the holidays. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-25 19:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mm4ndfFdlkoU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76668 |
On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 15:17:32 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > I believe most of the people in my mother village emigrated. My > grandparents were the first, 1930 perhaps. Now the village has people > coming back, when they retire. So there is a bar or two. Some come back > on the holidays. That was a pattern with the Scandinavians. First son got the farm and his siblings caught the first boat out. The state religion was also a driving force.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 00:29 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Sb6dnUJo_5upMmT1nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #76531 |
On 10/22/25 08:26, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-10-22 08:02, rbowman wrote: >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:48:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >> >>> It is surprisingly difficult to spot a slow or stationary vehicle >>> while driving. The perspective does not change much until you're >>> RIGHT up on the damned thing. MANY nasty accidents result. >> >> Any vehicle that can't do at least 25 is supposed to have a big slow >> vehicle triangle on the back. Always fun to get stuck behind a Harobed. >> >> https://www.loc.gov/item/ncr002399/ > > Fascinating. I don't think I have ever seen one. Not near 'farm country' ???
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 14:59 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <melpslxujb.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76566 |
On 2025-10-23 06:29, c186282 wrote: > On 10/22/25 08:26, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-10-22 08:02, rbowman wrote: >>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:48:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>> >>>> It is surprisingly difficult to spot a slow or stationary vehicle >>>> while driving. The perspective does not change much until you're >>>> RIGHT up on the damned thing. MANY nasty accidents result. >>> >>> Any vehicle that can't do at least 25 is supposed to have a big slow >>> vehicle triangle on the back. Always fun to get stuck behind a Harobed. >>> >>> https://www.loc.gov/item/ncr002399/ >> >> Fascinating. I don't think I have ever seen one. > > Not near 'farm country' ??? Not cereals around here. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 20:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mlvh05Fgc64U12@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76582 |
On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 14:59:34 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-10-23 06:29, c186282 wrote: >> On 10/22/25 08:26, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-10-22 08:02, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:48:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> It is surprisingly difficult to spot a slow or stationary >>>>> vehicle while driving. The perspective does not change much >>>>> until you're RIGHT up on the damned thing. MANY nasty >>>>> accidents result. >>>> >>>> Any vehicle that can't do at least 25 is supposed to have a big slow >>>> vehicle triangle on the back. Always fun to get stuck behind a >>>> Harobed. >>>> >>>> https://www.loc.gov/item/ncr002399/ >>> >>> Fascinating. I don't think I have ever seen one. >> >> Not near 'farm country' ??? > > Not cereals around here. Hay is not a cereal unless you're a horse. Wheat harvesting is a different process with the grain separated in the combine. Sometimes the wheat straw is baled. Straw, unlike hay, provides no nutrition and is used for bedding.
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 19:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10den4k$29nn5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76599 |
On 10/23/25 13:20, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 14:59:34 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2025-10-23 06:29, c186282 wrote: >>> On 10/22/25 08:26, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-10-22 08:02, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:48:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It is surprisingly difficult to spot a slow or stationary >>>>>> vehicle while driving. The perspective does not change much >>>>>> until you're RIGHT up on the damned thing. MANY nasty >>>>>> accidents result. >>>>> >>>>> Any vehicle that can't do at least 25 is supposed to have a big slow >>>>> vehicle triangle on the back. Always fun to get stuck behind a >>>>> Harobed. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.loc.gov/item/ncr002399/ >>>> >>>> Fascinating. I don't think I have ever seen one. >>> >>> Not near 'farm country' ??? >> >> Not cereals around here. > > > Hay is not a cereal unless you're a horse. Wheat harvesting is a > different process with the grain separated in the combine. Sometimes the > wheat straw is baled. Straw, unlike hay, provides no nutrition and is used > for bedding. > > Indeed and it looked like Alfalfa to me, as when young, near Fallon, Nevada which had then the largest stack of bales of alfalfa in the world I saw a lot of old fashioned square baling but since then in Califonia when younger I saw the new round bales. Alfalfa is also great food for cattle and our dairy cows got some every day but we grew our own on a very small farm. Straw of high quality is also useful to build homes and other smallish buildings along with rebar and stucco/concrete. Makes good insulation as well. bliss
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-24 05:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mm0ibuFm6jsU10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76607 |
On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 19:09:24 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > Alfalfa is also great food for cattle and our dairy cows got some > every day but we grew our own on a very small farm. The horses and mules were very happy to see us in the morning when we showed up with the hay. It was the winter home for the pack stock in the Forest Service region so there would be over 200 head. You had to be careful when you stopped to open a gate or they would help you unload the bales. Yesterday when I was taking a walk a pickup passed me and turned around. The guy had also worked at Nine Mile and recognized me. Not bad after 35 years. He was a hot shot.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-24 10:38 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sgqrslx0lm.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76599 |
On 2025-10-23 22:20, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 14:59:34 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2025-10-23 06:29, c186282 wrote: >>> On 10/22/25 08:26, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-10-22 08:02, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:48:54 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It is surprisingly difficult to spot a slow or stationary >>>>>> vehicle while driving. The perspective does not change much >>>>>> until you're RIGHT up on the damned thing. MANY nasty >>>>>> accidents result. >>>>> >>>>> Any vehicle that can't do at least 25 is supposed to have a big slow >>>>> vehicle triangle on the back. Always fun to get stuck behind a >>>>> Harobed. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.loc.gov/item/ncr002399/ >>>> >>>> Fascinating. I don't think I have ever seen one. >>> >>> Not near 'farm country' ??? >> >> Not cereals around here. > > > Hay is not a cereal unless you're a horse. Wheat harvesting is a > different process with the grain separated in the combine. Sometimes the > wheat straw is baled. Straw, unlike hay, provides no nutrition and is used > for bedding. Ok, few cows either around here. No much rain. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-24 19:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mm233lFtktmU12@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76622 |
On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:38:20 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > Ok, few cows either around here. No much rain. As far as rainfall this is a semiarid climate with 12 to 15" of precipitation annually. However in good years there is a lot of mountain snow pack that feeds the rivers. Almost farm land is irrigated. That's the story in most of the western US. If you can't irrigate you can't grow anything. California, in particular, would be mostly desert without their extensive water projects. That includes LA. There's some dryland farming but it's tricky and a good yield is far from guaranteed.
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-24 13:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10dgm60$2rebj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76639 |
On 10/24/25 12:41, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:38:20 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> Ok, few cows either around here. No much rain. > > As far as rainfall this is a semiarid climate with 12 to 15" of > precipitation annually. However in good years there is a lot of mountain > snow pack that feeds the rivers. Almost farm land is irrigated. > > That's the story in most of the western US. If you can't irrigate you > can't grow anything. California, in particular, would be mostly desert > without their extensive water projects. That includes LA. There's some > dryland farming but it's tricky and a good yield is far from guaranteed. > In Northern California we had frequent flooding before the water projects in the 1960s (according to my recollection) and if was not for the dams and canals the Central Valley would be a marsh. The most productive farmlands were made from drained marsh and are sinking due to loss of ground water as they are cut off by levees from the annual flooding that used to renew them. That is the Delta of the Sacramento River but the San Joaquin flows into that as well. The water Mr.Trump ordered released was water intended for farming not for transfer to LA for the pools and lawns much less fire-fighting. And LA had plenty of water but lots and lots of fire last winter and not so many useful hydrants. bliss
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-24 22:25 +0200 |
| Subject | Agriculture |
| Message-ID | <dv3tslx0tq.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76639 |
On 2025-10-24 21:41, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:38:20 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> Ok, few cows either around here. No much rain. > > As far as rainfall this is a semiarid climate with 12 to 15" of > precipitation annually. However in good years there is a lot of mountain > snow pack that feeds the rivers. Almost farm land is irrigated. > > That's the story in most of the western US. If you can't irrigate you > can't grow anything. California, in particular, would be mostly desert > without their extensive water projects. That includes LA. There's some > dryland farming but it's tricky and a good yield is far from guaranteed. > We (Cartagena) are in the Mediterranean coast, south east of Spain. No rivers. During Franco dictatorship a canal was built to bring water from a far river (far according to our size). The "Trasvase Tajo-Segura". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagus-Segura_Water_Transfer With that water the area agriculture flourished. We sell farm produce to a lot of Europe: lots of sun, and water. But now the donor area doesn't want to donate anymore. There is a big political and court fight. More than a decade ago a socialist government started building desalination plants, and they are building more. At least the drinking water is assured, but farmers claim it is too expensive. The right wing at the time claimed the socialists were stupid, but now they "demand" more. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-25 02:22 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Agriculture |
| Message-ID | <mm2qjiF2uhpU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76645 |
On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 22:25:49 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > We (Cartagena) are in the Mediterranean coast, south east of Spain. No > rivers. During Franco dictatorship a canal was built to bring water from > a far river (far according to our size). The "Trasvase Tajo-Segura". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Valley#Agriculture The agriculture section is a quick tour of growing crops in a place where it never rains. The whole article might lead to some misconceptions. Technically the Imperial Valley borders on the Colorado River but it's not like the river runs through the valley. Unless it has vastly improved since the last time I was there I don't think the Salton Sea is much of a tourist destination. It was an accident to begin with. Due to the farm run off the fish and birds pretty much died. Then with better irrigation techniques it started to dry up and the resorts were a long way from water. Then the dust storms started with all the toxic stuff that killed the fish.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-22 14:21 +0200 |
| Subject | Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <tqumslxiam.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76491 |
On 2025-10-22 05:48, c186282 wrote: > On 10/21/25 16:02, rbowman wrote: >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 01:39:33 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Quads and "golf carts" can now be considered to be "vehicles" in >>> lots >>> of states - the popularity has exploded. They require a few basic >>> minimums, tail-lights, head-lights, but the other requirements are >>> rather few. >> >> In this state golf carts are subject to local ordinances. If they are >> allowed the state laws dictate basic equipment and require a DL. There >> are a couple of communities built up around golf courses where you see >> them tooling around. Unless you're suicidal you don't want to be on most >> highways with something that peaks out at 20 mph. > > I've seen some that do at least 45 :-) Around here, there is a regulation that vehicles with a gasoline motor smaller than 50 cc, do not need a driving license. They have to be very light. I don't know about an equivalent rule for electricals. > > But yea, major highway, keep up or get squashed. > > It is surprisingly difficult to spot a slow or > stationary vehicle while driving. The perspective > does not change much until you're RIGHT up on > the damned thing. MANY nasty accidents result. > > Oddly it's the police who are often victims of > this. Despite blue lights and such, drivers > kind of see the tail-lights and automatically > assume the pull-off strip is another open lane > where traffic is proceeding at their speed. > They only realize the truth an instant before > the Big Smash. Something about how humans > are wired ..... > >> I see a lot of ebikes lately. I haven't been into one of the local bike >> shops recently so I don't know if they're selling them or if it's mail >> order. The Forest Service and the county have banned them on most single >> track trails. They are walking a fine line particularly the ones that you >> couldn't pedal if you wanted to. Eum... why? > > I have a couple of e-bike fanatics who blast down > the sidewalk in front of my house. Some of those > things are pretty damned fast. They also make > NO NOISE. Now have to CAREFULLY, incrementally, > nose my car out over the sidewalk. In theory, electric "skate boards" or whatever they are named are forbidden on the sidewalks here. They are considered motor vehicles and must go on the road path. The exceptions are electric chairs for impaired people, and some of them are fast! -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-22 20:14 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <mlss9aF3gmnU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76530 |
On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:21:17 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> I see a lot of ebikes lately. I haven't been into one of the local >>> bike shops recently so I don't know if they're selling them or if it's >>> mail order. The Forest Service and the county have banned them on most >>> single track trails. They are walking a fine line particularly the >>> ones that you couldn't pedal if you wanted to. > > Eum... why? Many of the trails have designated usage, hikers, bicyclists, horses, motorcycles, and quads. Hikers and horses may be permitted but not bicycles or motorcycles for example. I hike in an area that was created by mountain bikers and there are steep downhills that are bike only for safety reasons. So if you have a trail that allows bicycles how do you classify a e-bike that isn't a pedal assist but uses a throttle that doesn't require any pedaling and can do 25 mph? There are some Chinese designs that do a wink and nod. They have pedals but if you tried to use them you'd find your feet hit the frame. The you get to full on electric motorcycles that make no pretense of being a bicycle. https://zeromotorcycles.com/ Rather than dealing with all the nuances coming up with a new icon for the sign at the trail head that means 'no e-bikes' is easier. They are still allowed on the urban paved trails but I don't know how long that will last if there are abuses. There is sort of a feeling among the pedal bike riders that e-bike riders are lazy, low class trash. > The exceptions are electric chairs for impaired people, and some of them > are fast! A friend was a quadriplegic and had one. If we were going someplace together he had to slow down for my sake. It did condition me to be alert for the whining sound e-bikes make.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 15:06 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <jrlpslxqng.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76543 |
On 2025-10-22 22:14, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 14:21:17 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > >>>> I see a lot of ebikes lately. I haven't been into one of the local >>>> bike shops recently so I don't know if they're selling them or if it's >>>> mail order. The Forest Service and the county have banned them on most >>>> single track trails. They are walking a fine line particularly the >>>> ones that you couldn't pedal if you wanted to. >> >> Eum... why? > > Many of the trails have designated usage, hikers, bicyclists, horses, > motorcycles, and quads. Hikers and horses may be permitted but not > bicycles or motorcycles for example. I hike in an area that was created by > mountain bikers and there are steep downhills that are bike only for > safety reasons. Ah. > So if you have a trail that allows bicycles how do you classify a e-bike > that isn't a pedal assist but uses a throttle that doesn't require any > pedaling and can do 25 mph? There are some Chinese designs that do a wink > and nod. They have pedals but if you tried to use them you'd find your > feet hit the frame. The you get to full on electric motorcycles that make > no pretense of being a bicycle. > > https://zeromotorcycles.com/ > > Rather than dealing with all the nuances coming up with a new icon for the > sign at the trail head that means 'no e-bikes' is easier. > > They are still allowed on the urban paved trails but I don't know how long > that will last if there are abuses. There is sort of a feeling among the > pedal bike riders that e-bike riders are lazy, low class trash. I would like to buy an small electrically assisted pedal bicycle. One that I can pack inside my car. It is not laziness, but that I don't have that force in me any longer. That way I could visit places that do not allow cars, perhaps. > >> The exceptions are electric chairs for impaired people, and some of them >> are fast! > > A friend was a quadriplegic and had one. If we were going someplace > together he had to slow down for my sake. It did condition me to be alert > for the whining sound e-bikes make. Reminds me. New electric cars make a noise intentionally, specially when going slow, in cities. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-23 20:01 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <mlvft0Fgc64U6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76583 |
On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 15:06:27 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > I would like to buy an small electrically assisted pedal bicycle. One > that I can pack inside my car. It is not laziness, but that I don't have > that force in me any longer. > > That way I could visit places that do not allow cars, perhaps. One thing to remember is they are quite a bit heavier than road bikes. An off shoot of Rivian is supposed to have a new model out next year. Like a hybrid car, the pedals are only connected to a generator which charges the battery and provides a little propulsion. There is a limp home mode that only uses the generator output if the battery dies. I can't think that would be much fun. That will add another dimension to the argument of whether something with pedals that aren't connected to a wheel are bicycles or some sort of moped.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-24 10:09 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <aqorslxdgd.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76593 |
On 2025-10-23 22:01, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 15:06:27 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> I would like to buy an small electrically assisted pedal bicycle. One >> that I can pack inside my car. It is not laziness, but that I don't have >> that force in me any longer. >> >> That way I could visit places that do not allow cars, perhaps. > > One thing to remember is they are quite a bit heavier than road bikes. bicycles, I hope you mean, not motorbikes. > An > off shoot of Rivian is supposed to have a new model out next year. Like a > hybrid car, the pedals are only connected to a generator which charges the > battery and provides a little propulsion. There is a limp home mode that > only uses the generator output if the battery dies. I can't think that > would be much fun. That will add another dimension to the argument of > whether something with pedals that aren't connected to a wheel are > bicycles or some sort of moped. I heard that most, probably all, electrically assisted bicycles do not have regenerative braking. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-24 18:40 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <mm1vhpFtktmU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76619 |
On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:09:14 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-10-23 22:01, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 15:06:27 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> I would like to buy an small electrically assisted pedal bicycle. One >>> that I can pack inside my car. It is not laziness, but that I don't >>> have that force in me any longer. >>> >>> That way I could visit places that do not allow cars, perhaps. >> >> One thing to remember is they are quite a bit heavier than road bikes. > > bicycles, I hope you mean, not motorbikes. Yeah, given this thread I should have been explicit. Many of the ones I've seen around town have fat tires. 26 x 4" I think. For reference the front tire on my DR650 is 21 x 3.25. There is quite a range depending on the batteries but the fat tire types go around 35 kg. That could be hard to wrestle into a car. https://www.montaguebikes.com/product/paratrooper/ Not an e-bike but it's around 15 kg. It fits into the hatchback but it's a big awkward since the CG is out in front of you when you're lifting it. I didn't want to use a bike carrier so went with the folder. Lifting 35 kg on a rear carrier would be possible but I wouldn't want to try a clean and jerk with something as awkward as a bike to get it onto a rooftop carrier. > I heard that most, probably all, electrically assisted bicycles do not > have regenerative braking. https://www.engadget.com/transportation/the-first-e-bike-from-rivian- spinoff-also-has-a-virtual-drivetrain-173000250.html That's the full write up. It will have regenerative braking.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-24 21:22 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <s80tslx9lc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #76631 |
On 2025-10-24 20:40, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 10:09:14 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2025-10-23 22:01, rbowman wrote: >>> On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 15:06:27 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>>> I would like to buy an small electrically assisted pedal bicycle. One >>>> that I can pack inside my car. It is not laziness, but that I don't >>>> have that force in me any longer. >>>> >>>> That way I could visit places that do not allow cars, perhaps. >>> >>> One thing to remember is they are quite a bit heavier than road bikes. >> >> bicycles, I hope you mean, not motorbikes. > > Yeah, given this thread I should have been explicit. Many of the ones I've > seen around town have fat tires. 26 x 4" I think. For reference the front > tire on my DR650 is 21 x 3.25. There is quite a range depending on the > batteries but the fat tire types go around 35 kg. That could be hard to > wrestle into a car. > > https://www.montaguebikes.com/product/paratrooper/ > > Not an e-bike but it's around 15 kg. It fits into the hatchback but it's a > big awkward since the CG is out in front of you when you're lifting it. I > didn't want to use a bike carrier so went with the folder. Lifting 35 kg > on a rear carrier would be possible but I wouldn't want to try a clean > and jerk with something as awkward as a bike to get it onto a rooftop > carrier. That's heavy, I had not thought of that. But I do not want such thick tires either. > > >> I heard that most, probably all, electrically assisted bicycles do not >> have regenerative braking. > > https://www.engadget.com/transportation/the-first-e-bike-from-rivian- > spinoff-also-has-a-virtual-drivetrain-173000250.html > > That's the full write up. It will have regenerative braking. Interesting. But too expensive. If those are the normal prices, I will have to reconsider. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-25 01:54 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Vehicles |
| Message-ID | <mm2ou3F2uhpU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76637 |
On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 21:22:36 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > Interesting. But too expensive. If those are the normal prices, I will > have to reconsider. No, that's high end. I think you can get something decent in the 1000-1500 USD range but it would require research. Bicycles have been that way for years. Shimano has quite a few different grades of components, all of which look the same. Some can be mixed and matched. Altus used to be the entry level and a manufacturer might use a fairly high quality suspension fork and cheap out on the components. TBH I've had everything from XTR on down; they're all adequate and they all break the same. Electric bikes add many more variables. I wouldn't trust a $500 Chinese bike bought from Amazon although many of the reviews are good. I got a kick out of one 5 star review "have ridden it maybe a total of 5 miles over the course of 3 trips,"
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