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| Started by | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| First post | 2025-07-16 13:44 +0200 |
| Last post | 2025-10-22 12:52 +0100 |
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Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 13:44 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-07-16 14:00 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-16 13:22 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:43 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-07-17 08:06 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 12:16 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Arkadiusz 'Black Fox' Artyszuk <blackfox_pl@protonmail.com> - 2025-07-16 14:20 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-07-16 12:39 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-07-16 14:43 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 10:29 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:42 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-16 16:49 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-16 11:52 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 20:41 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-16 21:11 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 17:21 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-16 20:12 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-16 17:15 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-17 09:10 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-16 19:09 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-16 22:30 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-16 16:58 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-07-17 01:58 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-17 03:29 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 12:21 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-16 18:12 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-07-16 20:42 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-07-17 08:34 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-17 03:37 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-17 10:16 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 13:00 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 13:50 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-17 17:04 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 13:11 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 20:25 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:58 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 08:51 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-18 06:04 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:12 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:48 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:31 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:57 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:50 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 13:04 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-17 20:29 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 19:56 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:01 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:14 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:26 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:29 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:18 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-17 16:22 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:13 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-18 10:53 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-18 18:47 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 02:12 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-07-18 19:53 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-07-18 20:45 -0500
Re: Trouble with laptop display Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:22 -0500
mini-PC (was: Trouble with laptop display) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-07-18 19:58 +0000
Re: mini-PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 22:28 +0200
Re: mini-PC (was: Trouble with laptop display) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-18 23:38 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-17 21:56 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 09:49 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:08 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:11 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 12:22 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 20:24 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 22:05 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-18 18:31 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-19 00:50 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-19 01:35 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-18 19:42 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 15:11 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-19 13:36 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-20 09:55 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 02:02 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-20 21:10 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-20 05:00 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-19 21:43 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 05:29 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-20 07:34 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 21:04 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-20 14:40 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:43 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-21 04:42 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:50 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-21 19:41 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-21 12:16 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-21 22:26 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-21 17:35 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-21 19:55 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-07-21 17:37 -0400
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-22 00:36 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-22 19:57 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-22 12:08 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-07-22 21:38 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-22 12:46 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-20 12:54 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:55 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-20 20:22 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:54 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2025-07-21 09:02 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-19 21:44 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-20 13:41 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-07-20 17:52 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-20 21:05 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-20 19:56 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-07-21 12:55 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-20 15:00 -0700
Re: Trouble with laptop display Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-07-22 02:43 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 23:25 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-19 00:07 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 14:29 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-08-06 18:04 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 20:33 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-06 23:39 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-08-07 00:36 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-07 01:53 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-07 13:53 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout Daniel70 <daniel47@somewhere.someplaceelse> - 2025-08-07 20:01 +1000
Re: Trouble with laptop display - drm ebook fallout "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-08-07 13:05 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-18 11:08 +0100
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-18 21:22 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2025-10-22 11:04 +0000
Re: Trouble with laptop display "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 13:44 +0200
Re: Trouble with laptop display The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 12:52 +0100
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-16 22:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <joelklxie2.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69642 |
On 2025-07-16 21:09, Jack wrote: > On 16/07/2025 19:41, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> >> So, unless it is a faulty cable, it is garbage time. >> > > Before throwing away the machine, try to reinstall Windows or better > still boot up with live Linux distro to see if it is the OS corruption > or something else. No. The display is black, there is no backlight, on the BIOS boot screen, before any OS loads. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-16 16:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1059ebt$sdna$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69645 |
On 7/16/25 13:30, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-16 21:09, Jack wrote: >> On 16/07/2025 19:41, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> >>> So, unless it is a faulty cable, it is garbage time. >>> >> >> Before throwing away the machine, try to reinstall Windows or better >> still boot up with live Linux distro to see if it is the OS corruption >> or something else. > > No. > > The display is black, there is no backlight, on the BIOS boot screen, > before any OS loads. > I had that model some years back and the hard drive interface failed. I got a new HP on sale then and it died in a few years so I started buying used. some used very hard, Dell Latitudes after than. Then I got more carefully used laptops Dell again after than which gave me greater reliability. Now I have a Precision as my workhorse. I got it refurbished and it looked new then, not so much after a few years. bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.07- Linux 6.12.38- Plasma 5.27.11
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| From | Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 01:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1059lbt$11akf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69650 |
When I bothered with x86_64 laptops, I got (used/refurb) IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads (off E-Bay). Probably the most durable / rugged laptops. At Wed, 16 Jul 2025 16:58:53 -0700 Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote: > > > > On 7/16/25 13:30, Carlos E.R. wrote: > > On 2025-07-16 21:09, Jack wrote: > >> On 16/07/2025 19:41, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> So, unless it is a faulty cable, it is garbage time. > >>> > >> > >> Before throwing away the machine, try to reinstall Windows or better > >> still boot up with live Linux distro to see if it is the OS corruption > >> or something else. > > > > No. > > > > The display is black, there is no backlight, on the BIOS boot screen, > > before any OS loads. > > > > > I had that model some years back and the hard drive interface failed. > I got a new HP on sale then and it died in a few years so I started buying > used. some used very hard, Dell Latitudes after than. Then I got more > carefully used laptops Dell again after than which gave me greater > reliability. > Now I have a Precision as my workhorse. I got it refurbished and it looked > new then, not so much after a few years. > > bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.07- Linux 6.12.38- Plasma 5.27.11 > > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 03:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <46_dQ.603422$W5Jb.478107@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #69652 |
On 2025-07-17, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote: > When I bothered with x86_64 laptops, I got (used/refurb) IBM/Lenovo > Thinkpads (off E-Bay). Probably the most durable / rugged laptops. I've had the Lenovo T410 that I'm typing this on for 10 years. It replaced another refurbished Lenovo whose hinge broke. They're great machines, stand up to heavy daily use, and for me satisfy a critical criterion: they have good solid professional- grade keyboards. I'm not your typical hunt-and-peck typist, and a good keyboard is critical to my productivity. And they run Linux just fine from the get-go. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 12:21 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <fdvmklxka8.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69656 |
On 2025-07-17 05:29, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-07-17, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote: > >> When I bothered with x86_64 laptops, I got (used/refurb) IBM/Lenovo >> Thinkpads (off E-Bay). Probably the most durable / rugged laptops. > > I've had the Lenovo T410 that I'm typing this on for 10 years. > It replaced another refurbished Lenovo whose hinge broke. > They're great machines, stand up to heavy daily use, and for me > satisfy a critical criterion: they have good solid professional- > grade keyboards. I'm not your typical hunt-and-peck typist, > and a good keyboard is critical to my productivity. > > And they run Linux just fine from the get-go. > For this particular use case, I want something with good speakers. The broken one had Altec Lansing speakers, and they are very good. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-07-16 18:12 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1k0zmhhzo4me5$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #69636 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > VanguardLH wrote: > >> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> >>> I have an old Compaq Presario CQ61-330SS laptop, which I think I bought >>> around 2010. Battery died, I replaced it, also died eventually. >>> Currently I only use it to watch movies (it has very good internal >>> speakers), when exercising on an static bike. >>> >>> <https://icecat.es/es/p/hp/vk845ea/compaq+presario-laptops-0884962367797-cq61-330ss-3589205.html> >>> >>> Some months ago, the display went black on boot, but closing the lid and >>> opening it again made it work. Today it is impossible, it goes dark >>> instants after opening the lid. I have repeated the operation dozens of >>> times. It happens before booting and keeps doing it after booting. It >>> makes the thing totally unusable. >> >> Take a flashlight, and shine it at the display at an angle. Can you see >> what would have been displayed if the backlamps came on? > > I can easily try that. [...] You are absolutely right, I can see the > Compaq logo as it tries to boot. > > So, unless it is a faulty cable, it is garbage time. Or, if you like challenges, it is time to hunt for a repair kit to replace the backlamps, dismantle the laptop, and do a repair. The backlamps are part of the display assembly, but are seperate of the plates in the display. Or, check with a shop on what they will charge to replace the backlamps. Depends on what value you feel the laptop is still worth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM9iDMkFaL0 That shows how to replace the entire screen, not just the backlamps. Sometimes you can find eBayers selling off old computers for parts. You'll be getting a used part, but it's a lot cheaper than new, plus a new part may no longer be available to order. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=Compaq+Presario+CQ61-330SS+screen https://youtu.be/-XMb0iP8nek?t=180 I think the inverter PCB is the one that falls off at this point in the video when the user leaned the screen toward him. If replacing the backlamps, or the display with them (could be only 1, or 2 with 1 on each side), I'd probably replace the inverter. https://youtu.be/gZ8uAvI7JBk?t=181 Not sure all the disassembly before this point is really needed to pry apart the screen assembly unless all of that was to disconnect the hinge for the screen. This video shows where is the inverter board (for that submodel). The inverter supplies power to the screens backlamp(s). No point in putting in new backlamp(s) only to end up with a weak or dead inverter that won't light them up. LED screens don't have inverters, but LCD screens do for the CCFLs (cold-cathode fluorescent lamps). https://www.blisscomputers.net/compaq-presario-cq61-407ca-laptop-lcd-screen-replacement-15-6-wxga-hd-led-right-connector-947426/ That says the backlamps are LEDs, but your submodel could be different. I did a search there on "Compaq Presario CQ61-330SS laptop", but got no hits. Could be you have to find a compatible screen. You could use their "Request Quote" page to find out if they have the correct screen for your particular submodel.
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| From | Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> |
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| Date | 2025-07-16 20:42 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1059kep$114ip$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69636 |
Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-16 18:52, VanguardLH wrote: >> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have an old Compaq Presario CQ61-330SS laptop, which I think I bought >>> around 2010. Battery died, I replaced it, also died eventually. >>> Currently I only use it to watch movies (it has very good internal >>> speakers), when exercising on an static bike. >>> >>> <https://icecat.es/es/p/hp/vk845ea/compaq+presario-laptops-0884962367797-cq61-330ss-3589205.html> >>> >>> >>> Some months ago, the display went black on boot, but closing the lid and >>> opening it again made it work. Today it is impossible, it goes dark >>> instants after opening the lid. I have repeated the operation dozens of >>> times. It happens before booting and keeps doing it after booting. It >>> makes the thing totally unusable. >>> >>> I just replaced the CMOS battery (it reads 3 volts). On boot, it says >>> something about replaced battery, needs to reset, but I don't have time >>> to read what key to press, if any. >>> >>> So that battery was not the problem. >>> >>> Installed system is openSUSE, some old version, I don't remember which. >>> I can not ssh to it, says >>> >>> cer@Telcontar:~> ssh root@minas-tirith >>> Bad server host key: Invalid key length >>> cer@Telcontar:~> >>> >>> It also has Windows. >>> >>> But the problem happens before booting, so the operating system is not >>> involved. >>> >>> What do you think may be going on? >> >> Take a flashlight, and shine it at the display at an angle. Can you see >> what would have been displayed if the backlamps came on? > > I can easily try that. [...] You are absolutely right, I can see the > Compaq logo as it tries to boot. > > > So, unless it is a faulty cable, it is garbage time. I've had to replace the flex cable on both of my old Lenovo's. That's the flat cable that flexes every time you open and close the lid. I got mine off of Ebay for about $7 US.
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| From | "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 08:34 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mdrjs1F20oiU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #69636 |
On 16/07/2025 20.41, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-16 18:52, VanguardLH wrote: >> Take a flashlight, and shine it at the display at an angle. Can you see >> what would have been displayed if the backlamps came on? > > I can easily try that. [...] You are absolutely right, I can see the > Compaq logo as it tries to boot. > > > So, unless it is a faulty cable, it is garbage time. You could take the work and replace the LCD with a new one, I see there is at least one seller on ebay who has the LCD: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/192347292502 To find other sellers just search for "replacement lcd for Compaq Presario CQ61-330SS" at your favorite search engine. -- //Aho
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 03:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <TKmcnSObeu7JNeX1nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #69636 |
On 7/16/25 2:41 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-16 18:52, VanguardLH wrote: >> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have an old Compaq Presario CQ61-330SS laptop, which I think I bought >>> around 2010. Battery died, I replaced it, also died eventually. >>> Currently I only use it to watch movies (it has very good internal >>> speakers), when exercising on an static bike. >>> >>> <https://icecat.es/es/p/hp/vk845ea/compaq+presario-laptops-0884962367797-cq61-330ss-3589205.html> >>> >>> >>> Some months ago, the display went black on boot, but closing the lid and >>> opening it again made it work. Today it is impossible, it goes dark >>> instants after opening the lid. I have repeated the operation dozens of >>> times. It happens before booting and keeps doing it after booting. It >>> makes the thing totally unusable. >>> >>> I just replaced the CMOS battery (it reads 3 volts). On boot, it says >>> something about replaced battery, needs to reset, but I don't have time >>> to read what key to press, if any. >>> >>> So that battery was not the problem. >>> >>> Installed system is openSUSE, some old version, I don't remember which. >>> I can not ssh to it, says >>> >>> cer@Telcontar:~> ssh root@minas-tirith >>> Bad server host key: Invalid key length >>> cer@Telcontar:~> >>> >>> It also has Windows. >>> >>> But the problem happens before booting, so the operating system is not >>> involved. >>> >>> What do you think may be going on? >> >> Take a flashlight, and shine it at the display at an angle. Can you see >> what would have been displayed if the backlamps came on? > > I can easily try that. [...] You are absolutely right, I can see the > Compaq logo as it tries to boot. > > > So, unless it is a faulty cable, it is garbage time. Probably NOT a faulty cable. More modern distros tend to DROP drivers and good detection of OLD hardware. You MIGHT try some of the distros meant for older machines however. You don't have to abandon the benefits of Linux - just find a Linux oriented towards the right hardware context. Ancient hardware can STILL do a very good job with Linux - five times faster and more compact than any Win distro.
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 10:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105af0o$koge$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69664 |
On 2025/7/17 8:37:0, c186282 wrote: > On 7/16/25 2:41 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-07-16 18:52, VanguardLH wrote: >>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have an old Compaq Presario CQ61-330SS laptop, which I think I bought >>>> around 2010. Battery died, I replaced it, also died eventually. >>>> Currently I only use it to watch movies (it has very good internal >>>> speakers), when exercising on an static bike. []>>>> Some months ago, the display went black on boot, but closing the lid >>>> and >>>> opening it again made it work. Today it is impossible, it goes dark []>>>> Installed system is openSUSE, some old version, I don't remember which. >>>> I can not ssh to it, says [] >>> Take a flashlight, and shine it at the display at an angle. Can you see >>> what would have been displayed if the backlamps came on? >> >> I can easily try that. [...] You are absolutely right, I can see the >> Compaq logo as it tries to boot. [] > You MIGHT try some of the distros meant for > older machines however. You don't have to > abandon the benefits of Linux - just find > a Linux oriented towards the right hardware > context. Ancient hardware can STILL do a > very good job with Linux - five times faster > and more compact than any Win distro. Geez ... It was working, now isn't - but the screen can be seen if external illumination used. So NOT an OS problem, but a hardware one: faulty hinge switch, loose cable, faulty backlight, or faulty power supply to backlight (inverter, if it's that kind of backlight). He only uses it to watch movies, so no place for Linux evangelism - he's already using a Linux anyway. (Personally, after checking for switch/cable problem, I'd be expecting to replace the display [even though working] and backlight all as one sealed unit, as that's easier in my [very limitd] experience - but check [I'm not sure how] that the inverter, if it's that sort of display, is included in the display module, or is OK if not. And, again based on very limited experience: get the part number off the existing module. I found doing that produced much cheaper modules than searching for "display for a <laptop model>".) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Do you want to be right, or friends?" - a friend quoted by Vicky Ayech in UMRA, 2018-12-4
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 13:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ln1nklxm4h.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69672 |
On 2025-07-17 11:16, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > On 2025/7/17 8:37:0, c186282 wrote: >> On 7/16/25 2:41 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-07-16 18:52, VanguardLH wrote: >>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I have an old Compaq Presario CQ61-330SS laptop, which I think I >>>>> bought >>>>> around 2010. Battery died, I replaced it, also died eventually. >>>>> Currently I only use it to watch movies (it has very good internal >>>>> speakers), when exercising on an static bike. > []>>>> Some months ago, the display went black on boot, but closing the lid >>>>> and >>>>> opening it again made it work. Today it is impossible, it goes dark > []>>>> Installed system is openSUSE, some old version, I don't remember > which. >>>>> I can not ssh to it, says > [] >>>> Take a flashlight, and shine it at the display at an angle. Can you >>>> see >>>> what would have been displayed if the backlamps came on? >>> >>> I can easily try that. [...] You are absolutely right, I can see the >>> Compaq logo as it tries to boot. > > [] > >> You MIGHT try some of the distros meant for >> older machines however. You don't have to >> abandon the benefits of Linux - just find >> a Linux oriented towards the right hardware >> context. Ancient hardware can STILL do a >> very good job with Linux - five times faster >> and more compact than any Win distro. > > Geez ... > It was working, now isn't - but the screen can be seen if external > illumination used. > So NOT an OS problem, but a hardware one: faulty hinge switch, loose > cable, faulty backlight, or faulty power supply to backlight (inverter, > if it's that kind of backlight). > Right. > He only uses it to watch movies, so no place for Linux evangelism - he's > already using a Linux anyway. Right. > > (Personally, after checking for switch/cable problem, I'd be expecting > to replace the display [even though working] and backlight all as one > sealed unit, as that's easier in my [very limitd] experience - but check > [I'm not sure how] that the inverter, if it's that sort of display, is > included in the display module, or is OK if not. And, again based on > very limited experience: get the part number off the existing module. I > found doing that produced much cheaper modules than searching for > "display for a <laptop model>".) I don't feel up to doing it myself, I would need to find a shop willing to do it. The laptop has seen 14 years of service, so whether this is worthwhile I have my doubts. It was a good purchase and served me well. Maybe cheaper to buy something else. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 13:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105arib$1c17m$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69677 |
On 17/07/2025 12:00, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-17 11:16, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> On 2025/7/17 8:37:0, c186282 wrote: >>> On 7/16/25 2:41 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 2025-07-16 18:52, VanguardLH wrote: >>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have an old Compaq Presario CQ61-330SS laptop, which I think I >>>>>> bought >>>>>> around 2010. Battery died, I replaced it, also died eventually. >>>>>> Currently I only use it to watch movies (it has very good internal >>>>>> speakers), when exercising on an static bike. >> []>>>> Some months ago, the display went black on boot, but closing >> the lid >>>>>> and >>>>>> opening it again made it work. Today it is impossible, it goes dark >> []>>>> Installed system is openSUSE, some old version, I don't >> remember which. >>>>>> I can not ssh to it, says >> [] >>>>> Take a flashlight, and shine it at the display at an angle. Can >>>>> you see >>>>> what would have been displayed if the backlamps came on? >>>> >>>> I can easily try that. [...] You are absolutely right, I can see >>>> the Compaq logo as it tries to boot. >> >> [] >> >>> You MIGHT try some of the distros meant for >>> older machines however. You don't have to >>> abandon the benefits of Linux - just find >>> a Linux oriented towards the right hardware >>> context. Ancient hardware can STILL do a >>> very good job with Linux - five times faster >>> and more compact than any Win distro. >> >> Geez ... >> It was working, now isn't - but the screen can be seen if external >> illumination used. >> So NOT an OS problem, but a hardware one: faulty hinge switch, loose >> cable, faulty backlight, or faulty power supply to backlight >> (inverter, if it's that kind of backlight). >> > > Right. > >> He only uses it to watch movies, so no place for Linux evangelism - >> he's already using a Linux anyway. > > Right. > >> >> (Personally, after checking for switch/cable problem, I'd be expecting >> to replace the display [even though working] and backlight all as one >> sealed unit, as that's easier in my [very limitd] experience - but >> check [I'm not sure how] that the inverter, if it's that sort of >> display, is included in the display module, or is OK if not. And, >> again based on very limited experience: get the part number off the >> existing module. I found doing that produced much cheaper modules than >> searching for "display for a <laptop model>".) > > I don't feel up to doing it myself, I would need to find a shop willing > to do it. The laptop has seen 14 years of service, so whether this is > worthwhile I have my doubts. It was a good purchase and served me well. > Maybe cheaper to buy something else. > The second hand market is a awash with out-of-service-contract ex corporate machines bought for Covid. They make solid dependable if un flashy laptops for general browsing and watching videos. The two features that really cheap ones lack is a reasonably wide LCD viewing angle and reasonable onboard speakers. Many people seem to like Lenovo. I've had good wear out of HP . IN all case however spending a day learning to take one apart to find the problem, and order the part and another day to reassemble it when I can get a new better 'preloved one' for less than $300 is questionable Especially if it has a board fault. I have not got the gear - microscopes, tweezers, hot air guns, infra red cameras - that seem necessary to diagnose faults, nor yet access to a bin of scrap boards to pirate for a component whose value is unknown and on a machine with no circuit diagram. I think the pro laptop fixers charge a flat fee on the basis its all labour anyway, if you have scrap laptops for parts, that you couldn't repair with blown CPUs or GPUs. Three hours of UK average labour rate nets me a new refurbed laptop. Go figure -- The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. – H. L. Mencken, American journalist, 1880-1956
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 17:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105b6tv$1crkc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69678 |
On 2025/7/17 13:50:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 17/07/2025 12:00, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-07-17 11:16, J. P. Gilliver wrote: [] >>> (Personally, after checking for switch/cable problem, I'd be >>> expecting to replace the display [even though working] and backlight >>> all as one sealed unit, as that's easier in my [very limitd] >>> experience - but check [I'm not sure how] that the inverter, if it's >>> that sort of display, is included in the display module, or is OK if >>> not. And, again based on very limited experience: get the part number >>> off the existing module. I found doing that produced much cheaper >>> modules than searching for "display for a <laptop model>".) >> >> I don't feel up to doing it myself, I would need to find a shop >> willing to do it. The laptop has seen 14 years of service, so whether >> this is worthwhile I have my doubts. It was a good purchase and served >> me well. Maybe cheaper to buy something else. It's not hard, just fiddly (there's a YouTube how-to-replace-the-display for more or less every model of laptop in existence) - and there's a great feeling of satisfaction when it works! In my case I knew it was the display, as I'd tripped and fallen on it, and it was now displaying just vertical and horizontal lines )-: - well illuminated, so the backlight was fine, it was just easier to replace the whole sealed module than trying to separate them. (I still have the old one - there are plenty of articles on how to make a light panel out of them, though my tuit shortage suggests I'll never do so.)>> > The second hand market is a awash with out-of-service-contract ex > corporate machines bought for Covid. Trouble is, Carlos wants good speakers, and that's probably hard to judge online - unless he can find one of the same model that's broken in some other way (no HD, smashed keyboard, etc.) but with a working display. []> IN all case however spending a day learning to take one apart to find > the problem, and order the part and another day to reassemble it when I > can get a new better 'preloved one' for less than $300 is questionable IIRR, the replacement - new - module for the one I smashed was thirtysomething pounds. They do vary widely though. As I mentioned, looking for "display for a <laptop model>" produced plenty of hits but they were a _lot_ more expensive than looking for the specific module number I got from the module itself once I'd opened the laptop lid. (That also made sure I got the right one: it's possible any given laptop model might have used different displays during its production run, though one would _hope_ interchangeably so.)> > Especially if it has a board fault. I have not got the gear - > microscopes, tweezers, hot air guns, infra red cameras - that seem > necessary to diagnose faults, nor yet access to a bin of scrap boards > to pirate for a component whose value is unknown and on a machine with > no circuit diagram. I was lucky - didn't need anything more than fine screwdriver(s).> > I think the pro laptop fixers charge a flat fee on the basis its all > labour anyway, if you have scrap laptops for parts, that you couldn't > repair with blown CPUs or GPUs. > > Three hours of UK average labour rate nets me a new refurbed laptop. > Go figure > Can't remember how long it took me: might have been as much as three hours. Was the first time I'd dismantled a lid. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf One of my tricks as an armchair futurist is to "predict" things that are already happening and watch people tell me it will never happen. Scott Adams, 2015-3-9
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 13:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <37t8jqa0ur5l.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #69680 |
"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: > Trouble is, Carlos wants good speakers, and that's probably hard to > judge online - unless he can find one of the same model that's broken > in some other way (no HD, smashed keyboard, etc.) but with a working > display. Use ear buds or headphones, and Bluetooth if you don't want to bother with a cord. I don't recall ever thinking "Gee, that laptop (or monitor) has really great audio". Those are useful as backups during the interim to fix a problem with real audio hardware.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 20:25 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <eprnklx5af.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69682 |
On 2025-07-17 20:11, VanguardLH wrote: > "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: > >> Trouble is, Carlos wants good speakers, and that's probably hard to >> judge online - unless he can find one of the same model that's broken >> in some other way (no HD, smashed keyboard, etc.) but with a working >> display. > > Use ear buds or headphones, and Bluetooth if you don't want to bother > with a cord. I don't recall ever thinking "Gee, that laptop (or > monitor) has really great audio". Those are useful as backups during > the interim to fix a problem with real audio hardware. I thought of that. I have a very good pair of BT headphones, noise cancel. They were expensive. Sennheiser. The rubber pad is already wearing out, making me think if they are replaceable. The thing is, my ear lobes sweat with them even when sat on the couch, so imagine while doing exercise. And they itch. My ear lobes, and not only the parts touching the rubber, but the entry to the ear canal, itch badly! -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-17 19:58 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105bh4s$1gdtr$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69683 |
On 17/07/2025 19:25, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-17 20:11, VanguardLH wrote: >> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: >> >>> Trouble is, Carlos wants good speakers, and that's probably hard to >>> judge online - unless he can find one of the same model that's broken >>> in some other way (no HD, smashed keyboard, etc.) but with a working >>> display. >> >> Use ear buds or headphones, and Bluetooth if you don't want to bother >> with a cord. I don't recall ever thinking "Gee, that laptop (or >> monitor) has really great audio". Those are useful as backups during >> the interim to fix a problem with real audio hardware. > > I thought of that. > > I have a very good pair of BT headphones, noise cancel. They were > expensive. Sennheiser. The rubber pad is already wearing out, making me > think if they are replaceable. > > The thing is, my ear lobes sweat with them even when sat on the couch, > so imagine while doing exercise. > > And they itch. My ear lobes, and not only the parts touching the rubber, > but the entry to the ear canal, itch badly! > 3D print a bracket to hold some extension speakers on then! You can get USB powered ones that are pretty good for the inevitably small size. -- If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State. Joseph Goebbels
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 08:51 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <qg7pklxo93.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69688 |
On 2025-07-17 20:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 17/07/2025 19:25, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-07-17 20:11, VanguardLH wrote: >>> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Trouble is, Carlos wants good speakers, and that's probably hard to >>>> judge online - unless he can find one of the same model that's broken >>>> in some other way (no HD, smashed keyboard, etc.) but with a working >>>> display. >>> >>> Use ear buds or headphones, and Bluetooth if you don't want to bother >>> with a cord. I don't recall ever thinking "Gee, that laptop (or >>> monitor) has really great audio". Those are useful as backups during >>> the interim to fix a problem with real audio hardware. >> >> I thought of that. >> >> I have a very good pair of BT headphones, noise cancel. They were >> expensive. Sennheiser. The rubber pad is already wearing out, making >> me think if they are replaceable. >> >> The thing is, my ear lobes sweat with them even when sat on the couch, >> so imagine while doing exercise. >> >> And they itch. My ear lobes, and not only the parts touching the >> rubber, but the entry to the ear canal, itch badly! >> > 3D print a bracket to hold some extension speakers on then! > You can get USB powered ones that are pretty good for the inevitably > small size. Yes, true, external speakers could be a solution, attached somehow. Not 3D printing, I don't have such a contraption and know very little about using them :-D A decade or two ago, I bought external speakers for my desktop computer. One central unit, AC powered, and two side units connected to the central one. There were others with 5 speakers or more. 3 years ago, what I found was small, and USB powered. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 06:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <105co5b$1st8j$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69683 |
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 20:25:18 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-07-17 20:11, VanguardLH wrote: >> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: >> >>> Trouble is, Carlos wants good speakers, and that's probably hard to >>> judge online - unless he can find one of the same model that's broken >>> in some other way (no HD, smashed keyboard, etc.) but with a working >>> display. >> >> Use ear buds or headphones, and Bluetooth if you don't want to bother >> with a cord. I don't recall ever thinking "Gee, that laptop (or >> monitor) has really great audio". Those are useful as backups during >> the interim to fix a problem with real audio hardware. > > I thought of that. > > I have a very good pair of BT headphones, noise cancel. They were > expensive. Sennheiser. The rubber pad is already wearing out, making me > think if they are replaceable. > > The thing is, my ear lobes sweat with them even when sat on the couch, > so imagine while doing exercise. > > And they itch. My ear lobes, and not only the parts touching the rubber, > but the entry to the ear canal, itch badly! I make a point of buying headphones with fabric not vinyl or rubber. No sweat and they are comfortable for hours at a go. -- Simon RLU: 222126
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 11:12 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <105d6lj$1voed$12@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69701 |
On 18/07/2025 07:04, Simon wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 20:25:18 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2025-07-17 20:11, VanguardLH wrote: >>> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Trouble is, Carlos wants good speakers, and that's probably hard to >>>> judge online - unless he can find one of the same model that's broken >>>> in some other way (no HD, smashed keyboard, etc.) but with a working >>>> display. >>> >>> Use ear buds or headphones, and Bluetooth if you don't want to bother >>> with a cord. I don't recall ever thinking "Gee, that laptop (or >>> monitor) has really great audio". Those are useful as backups during >>> the interim to fix a problem with real audio hardware. >> >> I thought of that. >> >> I have a very good pair of BT headphones, noise cancel. They were >> expensive. Sennheiser. The rubber pad is already wearing out, making me >> think if they are replaceable. >> >> The thing is, my ear lobes sweat with them even when sat on the couch, >> so imagine while doing exercise. >> >> And they itch. My ear lobes, and not only the parts touching the rubber, >> but the entry to the ear canal, itch badly! > > I make a point of buying headphones with fabric not vinyl or rubber. No > sweat and they are comfortable for hours at a go. > Ah. I am on the point of puchasing some, and that is a very useful tip Thank you. > > -- Microsoft : the best reason to go to Linux that ever existed.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-18 12:48 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <jdlpklxt5s.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #69713 |
On 2025-07-18 12:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 18/07/2025 07:04, Simon wrote: >> On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 20:25:18 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> On 2025-07-17 20:11, VanguardLH wrote: >>>> "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Trouble is, Carlos wants good speakers, and that's probably hard to >>>>> judge online - unless he can find one of the same model that's broken >>>>> in some other way (no HD, smashed keyboard, etc.) but with a working >>>>> display. >>>> >>>> Use ear buds or headphones, and Bluetooth if you don't want to bother >>>> with a cord. I don't recall ever thinking "Gee, that laptop (or >>>> monitor) has really great audio". Those are useful as backups during >>>> the interim to fix a problem with real audio hardware. >>> >>> I thought of that. >>> >>> I have a very good pair of BT headphones, noise cancel. They were >>> expensive. Sennheiser. The rubber pad is already wearing out, making me >>> think if they are replaceable. >>> >>> The thing is, my ear lobes sweat with them even when sat on the couch, >>> so imagine while doing exercise. >>> >>> And they itch. My ear lobes, and not only the parts touching the rubber, >>> but the entry to the ear canal, itch badly! >> >> I make a point of buying headphones with fabric not vinyl or rubber. No >> sweat and they are comfortable for hours at a go. >> > Ah. I am on the point of puchasing some, and that is a very useful tip > Thank you. I am very happy otherwise with those headphones. They are the first I buy with noise cancellation; it makes a huge difference in an airplane. The cushioning alone maintains out a good part of the noise; then power them up and another big portion goes out. But it causes my ears to itch in summer at least, and the soft rubber degrades. I now use them to watch the telly at the sitting room. I have there a cheap portable AC machine which roars. I have to push the TV volume almost all the way up, and I miss what they say when they speak softly. So those earphones make a tremendous difference. The TV set is new (LG) and has bluetooth. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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