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| Started by | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| First post | 2025-06-05 10:12 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-06-28 14:10 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 402 — 44 participants |
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What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-05 10:12 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-05 06:44 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Michael Uplawski <michael.uplawski@uplawski.eu> - 2025-06-05 13:12 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-05 13:03 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-05 11:11 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-05 14:22 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> - 2025-06-05 17:16 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:54 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-06 14:43 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:31 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-07 02:44 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-05 21:36 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-05 15:51 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-05 14:58 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-05 16:11 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:06 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-09 08:51 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-05 18:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-06 15:37 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John McCue <jmccue@magnetar.jmcunx.com> - 2025-06-05 14:03 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-06-05 16:50 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:30 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-06-06 21:51 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 08:21 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-05 18:11 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 10:46 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 13:23 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-06 14:47 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-06 21:02 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:27 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-07 11:07 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-07 13:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-07 17:17 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-08 00:02 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 03:31 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 08:59 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 09:48 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 09:53 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 08:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-09 09:47 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:31 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-09 23:55 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-08 14:47 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 13:52 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-14 08:30 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-14 11:01 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-14 10:52 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-14 21:17 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-14 23:35 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 09:52 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-16 18:15 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-16 23:24 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-16 18:28 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-17 01:56 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 08:33 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-17 22:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 16:04 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-18 00:04 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-18 04:28 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-18 16:15 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-18 05:30 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-14 23:30 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-15 09:23 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-15 08:59 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-14 19:38 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 08:07 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-09 17:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-09 19:53 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-09 21:34 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:34 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-12 15:10 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-12 18:12 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 10:00 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:16 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-07 12:54 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> - 2025-06-06 01:58 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-06 00:50 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:47 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:06 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:46 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:05 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:23 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 07:59 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-09 07:20 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 10:01 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 18:20 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-09 08:59 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-05 17:37 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-05 12:15 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-06-05 20:44 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:21 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-09 08:56 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 18:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-10 02:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-10 03:25 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-10 18:11 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 03:25 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-06-09 17:58 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:36 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-06 00:14 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-05 22:05 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-06 07:10 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:39 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:12 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 20:18 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-06 21:02 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-07 03:23 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 04:42 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:19 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 07:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? xyz@eatspam.invalid (JCJ) - 2025-06-28 14:44 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-29 00:02 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.nospam> - 2025-06-30 10:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 19:29 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:23 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-07 10:57 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 12:28 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 09:38 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 18:13 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-10 02:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-10 10:25 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:26 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 07:45 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 16:55 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-10 15:43 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 09:12 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-11 13:03 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 13:01 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2025-06-11 18:36 +0300
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 17:11 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-12 14:37 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 17:21 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 22:27 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 03:25 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 09:24 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-11 13:04 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 17:29 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-11 17:46 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-12 02:39 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-12 14:51 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 17:22 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 09:13 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-12 14:46 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:56 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 03:43 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-11 07:54 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-12 14:33 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-12 11:27 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 17:20 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-12 18:26 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-11 12:04 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 17:15 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-12 11:16 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 12:34 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:58 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-11 11:57 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-12 00:08 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-06-06 12:57 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 13:26 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-06 14:53 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-06 18:46 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-06-06 18:18 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:16 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 19:37 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:14 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 20:45 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-06-06 08:29 +0300
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Jan van den Broek <balglaas@dds.nl> - 2025-06-06 08:01 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:33 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Jan van den Broek <balglaas@dds.nl> - 2025-06-07 11:03 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:11 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 07:06 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-06-06 13:44 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-06 18:37 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:20 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:10 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 08:02 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:43 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 07:38 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 07:17 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2025-06-10 12:43 +1000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:42 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 03:34 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-11 12:12 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 13:51 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-11 17:04 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-12 11:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-14 19:48 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-14 08:34 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-14 19:43 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 08:47 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-18 05:20 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-12 00:10 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-12 02:51 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-12 11:03 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 12:12 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@nospam.com.ii> - 2025-06-12 11:31 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-12 08:37 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 17:23 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-12 21:49 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-12 16:17 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-13 01:26 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-20 10:37 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-21 07:12 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-23 14:29 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 00:13 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-01 14:10 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-02 00:04 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-02 01:13 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-02 01:26 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-02 09:25 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.nospam> - 2025-07-02 11:56 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-02 08:35 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-02 23:27 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.nospam> - 2025-07-03 11:37 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-03 19:11 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 10:32 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-05 19:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 23:05 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-10 00:50 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-10 05:47 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-10 09:35 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.nospam> - 2025-07-11 11:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 23:04 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-02 07:43 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-02 23:21 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-03 08:26 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2025-07-03 12:17 -0500
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 10:41 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-05 10:17 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 11:19 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 16:07 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 16:23 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 16:25 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 13:35 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 21:59 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 14:51 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-07 02:46 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-05 22:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 09:09 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-06 10:36 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 14:17 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-06 10:52 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-11 19:03 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-11 21:03 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-11 21:33 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-12 14:30 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 04:50 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-12 23:29 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 07:01 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-13 16:45 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 19:22 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-14 08:34 +1000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 03:20 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-14 09:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-07-14 18:46 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 19:27 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-14 09:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 19:14 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-14 11:13 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-14 17:07 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 19:44 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-14 13:24 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-15 18:21 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-13 07:32 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-13 12:47 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-07-13 17:00 +0000
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Re: DVD-Video DRM not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-14 14:17 +1000
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Re: DVD-Video DRM Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-07-14 17:48 +1000
Re: DVD-Video DRM rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 18:55 +0000
Re: DVD-Video DRM The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-14 14:56 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-13 16:45 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-13 10:03 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-14 00:14 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 03:24 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-14 11:07 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 12:15 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-07-13 12:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 19:36 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 21:49 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-14 09:03 +1000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-13 16:45 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 19:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-12 10:54 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-12 08:46 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-07 02:52 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-07 09:07 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-07 22:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-07 09:45 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-07 18:26 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-07 10:42 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-07 20:34 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-07 18:56 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-05 19:12 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 09:14 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 12:56 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-07 02:47 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-05 18:37 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 13:44 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-05 22:44 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 16:38 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-06 04:46 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-06 06:05 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 09:09 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 23:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 23:03 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 21:34 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 09:45 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-06 06:07 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 09:14 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-06 21:35 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-07-28 21:26 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-06 10:41 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-02 09:31 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-03 13:04 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-04 00:48 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-04 08:21 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-04 23:29 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 10:05 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 22:57 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-07-30 22:15 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 23:44 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 23:21 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-07 10:20 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2025-07-07 12:53 -0500
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 22:58 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-07-30 22:23 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-06-21 10:35 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-21 21:43 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-23 11:49 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-14 19:57 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 08:43 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-16 23:26 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 21:19 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 09:42 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-05 21:37 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 14:53 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-06 06:08 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-12 21:45 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-06-06 17:58 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-06 18:48 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-06 17:08 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 10:47 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 01:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 09:03 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:43 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-06 18:28 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-06 18:50 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 20:20 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-07 03:30 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 01:06 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 08:03 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-09 02:49 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 10:02 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:57 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 09:02 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:48 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 07:41 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-10 10:17 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 11:28 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-10 13:01 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-10 18:13 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 12:39 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 11:57 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 12:04 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 13:18 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-10 12:59 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-10 18:04 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-11 00:15 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-11 12:08 +0000
OT: ot crap - was: What Window Manager/Desktop....... Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-06-11 17:14 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-11 00:14 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-13 01:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-13 01:26 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-13 03:27 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-13 20:50 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-13 23:34 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-11 00:13 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-10 17:59 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 21:13 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 21:12 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-04 23:12 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-07-05 18:35 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:34 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 18:48 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 07:15 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Narkiewicz <hello@ezaquarii.com> - 2025-06-06 19:30 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:17 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-07 10:54 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 12:31 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-07 18:49 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 23:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-07 16:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 01:03 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 19:18 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-06-06 22:35 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 10:44 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? xyz@eatspam.invalid (JCJ) - 2025-06-28 14:10 +0000
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-05 22:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mctnutF2dvgU17@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #69384 |
On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 13:35:18 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > If you must use Windows maintain a separate computer. When > so-called Dual-Boot is used and Windows gets a Kernel update which will > arrive without any notification it will mess up the UEFI boot patition > and > erase your Linux choice. The last dual boot I did was a Dell box that came with Windows 7. I put openSUSE on it, probably 12.1. I very seldom booted into 7. It made it up to 13.2. At the time there were reports that trying to upgrade to Leap 42 didn't go well so I ran 13.2 well past its EOL. I'm not sure it has UEFI. The only problem I had was openSUSE created a btrfs /boot by default and GRUB didn't handle that well.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-06 09:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <104davd$220mr$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69366 |
On 05/07/2025 16:25, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes: >> On 05/07/2025 16:07, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>> I was wondering what mechanism Stephane thinks Microsoft use to ‘lock’ >>> Windows onto a computer. While it’s certainly possible to create a >>> device that resists unauthorized upgrades, modern PCs aren’t normally >>> it. >> >> Its all about BIOS options IME >> That is taking a freshly delivered WinBox, I needed to modify BIOS to >> some different settings to get Linux to boot. >> >> Enable UEFI and disable secure boot. > > I’ve generally not needed to disable secure boot - most Linux > distributions have had signed kernels for a long time now. > Ah. That may well be. My last total install that needed that was some time ago... -- “But what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an hypothesis!” Mary Wollstonecraft
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2025-07-06 10:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <686a51b6$0$8598$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #69420 |
Le 06-07-2025, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> a écrit : > On 05/07/2025 16:25, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes: >>> On 05/07/2025 16:07, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>>> I was wondering what mechanism Stephane thinks Microsoft use to ‘lock’ >>>> Windows onto a computer. While it’s certainly possible to create a >>>> device that resists unauthorized upgrades, modern PCs aren’t normally >>>> it. >>> >>> Its all about BIOS options IME >>> That is taking a freshly delivered WinBox, I needed to modify BIOS to >>> some different settings to get Linux to boot. >>> >>> Enable UEFI and disable secure boot. >> >> I’ve generally not needed to disable secure boot - most Linux >> distributions have had signed kernels for a long time now. >> > Ah. That may well be. My last total install that needed that was some > time ago... Yes, that's why I said "on modern computers". By that I mean mostly laptop and computers sold as is. I don't mean computers assemble by the end user. When someone comes with a very old computer, to old to run Windows on it anymore, it's a piece of cake to install Linux on it. But with recent computers, it can be really tricky. Mostly depending on the brands. With a thinkpad, it's easy, with most of what's sold in big sellers stores, not so much. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-06 14:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <104dt1s$272l9$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69427 |
On 06/07/2025 11:36, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 06-07-2025, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> a écrit : >> On 05/07/2025 16:25, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes: >>>> On 05/07/2025 16:07, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>>>> I was wondering what mechanism Stephane thinks Microsoft use to ‘lock’ >>>>> Windows onto a computer. While it’s certainly possible to create a >>>>> device that resists unauthorized upgrades, modern PCs aren’t normally >>>>> it. >>>> >>>> Its all about BIOS options IME >>>> That is taking a freshly delivered WinBox, I needed to modify BIOS to >>>> some different settings to get Linux to boot. >>>> >>>> Enable UEFI and disable secure boot. >>> >>> I’ve generally not needed to disable secure boot - most Linux >>> distributions have had signed kernels for a long time now. >>> >> Ah. That may well be. My last total install that needed that was some >> time ago... > > Yes, that's why I said "on modern computers". By that I mean mostly > laptop and computers sold as is. I don't mean computers assemble by the > end user. When someone comes with a very old computer, to old to run > Windows on it anymore, it's a piece of cake to install Linux on it. But > with recent computers, it can be really tricky. Mostly depending on the > brands. With a thinkpad, it's easy, with most of what's sold in big > sellers stores, not so much. > But that is the exact opposite. Modern linux has basically achieved inoculation from the Windows Virus Its way easier to install than Windows is these days https://www.explainingcomputers.com/windows_videos.html -- When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it. Frédéric Bastiat
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-06 10:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <104ed5k$29dh6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69427 |
On 7/6/25 03:36, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 06-07-2025, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> a écrit : >> On 05/07/2025 16:25, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes: >>>> On 05/07/2025 16:07, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>>>> I was wondering what mechanism Stephane thinks Microsoft use to ‘lock’ >>>>> Windows onto a computer. While it’s certainly possible to create a >>>>> device that resists unauthorized upgrades, modern PCs aren’t normally >>>>> it. >>>> >>>> Its all about BIOS options IME >>>> That is taking a freshly delivered WinBox, I needed to modify BIOS to >>>> some different settings to get Linux to boot. >>>> >>>> Enable UEFI and disable secure boot. >>> >>> I’ve generally not needed to disable secure boot - most Linux >>> distributions have had signed kernels for a long time now. >>> >> Ah. That may well be. My last total install that needed that was some >> time ago... > > Yes, that's why I said "on modern computers". By that I mean mostly > laptop and computers sold as is. I don't mean computers assemble by the > end user. When someone comes with a very old computer, to old to run > Windows on it anymore, it's a piece of cake to install Linux on it. But > with recent computers, it can be really tricky. Mostly depending on the > brands. With a thinkpad, it's easy, with most of what's sold in big > sellers stores, not so much. > Well is 2019 a new computer? I go mine refurbished from Walmart of all places and it looked brand new when I bought it. I have had no problems with older Dell laptops installing and running Linux. I liked the Latitudes but while I have a fine one with a 14 inch display my old eyes said to try a 17" display and get some more cores while I was at it. Mine is still as it came from the shop with only 16 GB of RAM and a 512 GB SSD... I have another 16 GB and a Terabyte SSD to add but since i broke my ankle I find myself nervousabout setting up my workspace. bliss the hobbler.. bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.07- Linux 6.12.35- Plasma 5.27.11 -- I was seldom able to see an opportunity until it had ceased to be one. (Mark Twain)
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2025-07-11 19:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <68716003$0$423$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #69439 |
Le 06-07-2025, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> a écrit : > > On 7/6/25 03:36, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: >> >> Yes, that's why I said "on modern computers". By that I mean mostly >> laptop and computers sold as is. I don't mean computers assemble by the >> end user. When someone comes with a very old computer, to old to run >> Windows on it anymore, it's a piece of cake to install Linux on it. But >> with recent computers, it can be really tricky. Mostly depending on the >> brands. With a thinkpad, it's easy, with most of what's sold in big >> sellers stores, not so much. > > Well is 2019 a new computer? From what I see, it's a little bit before computers stated to provide a more and more difficult way to remove Windows. > I go mine refurbished from Walmart I don't know Walmart. I heard about it, of course, but it's not enough for me to have an idea about its political vision. I don't know if they try to help Linux on computers or not. From what I see, I'd say Dell is not the worst. HP is far worse. For lay people, I mean. For companies, HP provide a completely different sort of computers which is more friendly with Linux. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-11 21:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mddcgsFl243U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #69510 |
On 11 Jul 2025 19:03:31 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > I don't know Walmart. I heard about it, of course, but it's not enough > for me to have an idea about its political vision. I don't know if they > try to help Linux on computers or not. Its political vision is making money. Known in some circles as ChinaMart it does its part in keeping the American consumers relatively happy by offering inexpensive goods of uncertain quality. It's my local store of last resort if I can't find an item before I order it from Amazon. It tends to drive out local businesses and contributed to the demise of some chains like Sears, KMart, and ShopKo. It is known for expecting the government to pick up the slack to keep its underpaid 'associates' alive with supplemental monies and medical care. My nephew could give a more detailed rant. He will sit in the car rather than going into a Walmart when family members go there.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-11 21:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <tqfcQ.988701$9qCb.167665@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #69512 |
On 2025-07-11, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On 11 Jul 2025 19:03:31 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > >> I don't know Walmart. I heard about it, of course, but it's not enough >> for me to have an idea about its political vision. I don't know if they >> try to help Linux on computers or not. > > Its political vision is making money. Known in some circles as ChinaMart > it does its part in keeping the American consumers relatively happy by > offering inexpensive goods of uncertain quality. It's my local store of > last resort if I can't find an item before I order it from Amazon. It > tends to drive out local businesses and contributed to the demise of some > chains like Sears, KMart, and ShopKo. In other words, it's the consumer goods equivalent of Microsoft. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-12 14:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <104uk4q$276dl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69512 |
On 7/11/25 14:03, rbowman wrote: > On 11 Jul 2025 19:03:31 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > >> I don't know Walmart. I heard about it, of course, but it's not enough >> for me to have an idea about its political vision. I don't know if they >> try to help Linux on computers or not. Linux need no help at Walmart. I started using them for supplies which had become difficult to acquire with stores closing in downtown San Francisco and my mobility limitations. When I started the old password system was in effect and now they use emailed keys after you sign in sent to cell phone or computer. My largest purchse from Walmart was the Dell Precision 7340 which is a portable, laptop form-factor, but a workstation from 2019. I do not recall if it had Windows installed but it has been running Linux since I bought it refurbished as a result of the govenment's Covid-19 stimulus. > > Its political vision is making money. Known in some circles as ChinaMart > it does its part in keeping the American consumers relatively happy by > offering inexpensive goods of uncertain quality. It's my local store of > last resort if I can't find an item before I order it from Amazon. It > tends to drive out local businesses and contributed to the demise of some > chains like Sears, KMart, and ShopKo. By the time I got to Walmart those business had folded. > > It is known for expecting the government to pick up the slack to keep its > underpaid 'associates' alive with supplemental monies and medical care. Yes that is true. I do not like that but I like Amazon's behavior less.> > My nephew could give a more detailed rant. He will sit in the car rather > than going into a Walmart when family members go there. I have no car. I travel by Public Transit or a friend's car once a week or so. I gave up driving a car for financial reasons and public safety in my 70s over 10 years ago. I only approach Walmat digitally. If Amazon would only treat its emplyees with more respect or allow them to unionize I might use it again as I did when I was unaware of how oppressive they are to the employees. bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.07- Linux 6.12.37- Plasma 5.27.11
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-13 04:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mdgs8lF7rj2U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #69526 |
On Sat, 12 Jul 2025 14:30:02 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > Yes that is true. I do not like that but I like Amazon's behavior > less.> Amazon is sort of the business I love to hate... Over the past 30 years we've gotten more big box stores. Prior to that if you wanted anything out of the ordinary you drove to Spokane. Even with them the selection is limited in a small (100,000+) market. RatShack wasn't much but not there is no source for electronics. I prefer New Balance shoes in non-garish colors and I've sometimes failed to find any in my size. Hello Amazon! The best example is when I bought a Toyota Yaris in 2007. It was a new model and didn't have a radio. I went to the leading sound people in town. They didn't have a dash kit and had to order it. Days passed and when the shipment came in from their supplier, no dash kit. They tried another supplier. Most days passed and again no kit. They said they could possibly modify one. I got the Metra number from the Yaris forum, ordered the kit, a radio, and the harness adapter from Amazon and it was on my deck in two days. I installed it in an hour. Even more ridiculous during covid cat food was in short supply in the local stores. I ordered a case of 40 cans of Purina from Amazon with again the same fast delivery. I put it on a subscription so the cats are happy to see an Amazon truck roll up. Back around 2000 when Amazon was mostly books and CDs I had very mixed success, particularly with the CDs. They often advertised items the didn't have and couldn't get so weeks would pass before they canceled the order. At that time I mostly used B&N. Amazon has come a long way particularly considering the many online schemes that failed after dotcom. Walmart is another success but I rarely go there because of the quality of a lot of their stuff. I used to wear Herman Survivors boots. The company went through several hands and Walmart finally bought the trademark. They're now cheap Chinese crap. Other name brands have special Walmart SKUs that are made to a price.
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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-12 23:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <104vjom$2bqoq$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69532 |
On 7/12/25 21:50, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jul 2025 14:30:02 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > >> Yes that is true. I do not like that but I like Amazon's behavior >> less.> > > Amazon is sort of the business I love to hate... Over the past 30 years > we've gotten more big box stores. Prior to that if you wanted anything out > of the ordinary you drove to Spokane. Even with them the selection is > limited in a small (100,000+) market. RatShack wasn't much but not there > is no source for electronics. I prefer New Balance shoes in non-garish > colors and I've sometimes failed to find any in my size. Hello Amazon! Snip > Back around 2000 when Amazon was mostly books and CDs I had very mixed > success, particularly with the CDs. They often advertised items the didn't > have and couldn't get so weeks would pass before they canceled the order. > At that time I mostly used B&N. Amazon has come a long way particularly > considering the many online schemes that failed after dotcom. A few tears ago and even later I have patronized Amazon for computer hardware and all region DVD players when my ambitions around watching anime seemed important. If I can buy something locally I now used mail order btu willing tgo pay a bit more for long trusted suppliers. So I know all about how good Amazon is to its clients. Then I learned about the problems the work force at Amazon are dealing with. I really resent them taking over the Whole Foods chain though because I really enjoyed some of the items which Amazon cannot find apparently > > Walmart is another success but I rarely go there because of the quality of > a lot of their stuff. I used to wear Herman Survivors boots. The company > went through several hands and Walmart finally bought the trademark. > They're now cheap Chinese crap. Other name brands have special Walmart > SKUs that are made to a price. Some of us unhappily have to buy at a price. It can cause problems when one tries to do a two persoon job on your own assembling a bed frame for example. Byt some overseas factory is doing a good job with zippered compression hose. I have never been in a real-life Walmart store doing all my ordering via their web site. I needed supplement and delivery was ideal during Covid restrictions These sare megastores very spacious and involve getting a fairly long walk which is impractical in my current condition. A trip to the local Best Buy used to be a lot more fun. bliss
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-13 07:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mdh3uuF7rj2U7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #69534 |
On Sat, 12 Jul 2025 23:29:42 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: > I have never been in a real-life Walmart store doing all my ordering > via > their web site. I needed supplement and delivery was ideal during Covid > restrictions These sare megastores very spacious and involve getting a > fairly long walk which is impractical in my current condition. My last trip was for a pack of pocket t-shirts. For whatever reason Target doesn't carry them. I checked on the web site and it said they were in aisle D9. I've done that for Home Depot and it usually works out well. The Walmart megastore isn't pick on alphabetical or numerical ordering so I was back to wandering around until I found them. Sadly I couldn't think of any place other than Target or Walmart that might carry cheap Haines or Fruit of the Loom t-shirts. Plenty of Carhart but you can get six Haines for less than one of their shirts.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-13 16:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <koRcQ.426337$sKi9.15556@fx14.iad> |
| In reply to | #69536 |
On 2025-07-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > My last trip was for a pack of pocket t-shirts. For whatever reason Target > doesn't carry them. I checked on the web site and it said they were in > aisle D9. I've done that for Home Depot and it usually works out well. The > Walmart megastore isn't pick on alphabetical or numerical ordering so I > was back to wandering around until I found them. That might be deliberate. I've noticed the local Safeway often arranges (and periodically re-arranges) things in ways that make no sense at all - unless the goal is to make you wander the entire store, more likely to grab items on impulse that you never would have bought otherwise. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-13 19:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mdifc4Fg70dU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #69544 |
On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 16:45:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > That might be deliberate. I've noticed the local Safeway often arranges > (and periodically re-arranges) things in ways that make no sense at all > - > unless the goal is to make you wander the entire store, more likely to > grab items on impulse that you never would have bought otherwise. We no longer have Safeways. When Albertsons bought Safeway they had to divest themselves of the physical stores in town since there were already 4 Albertsons locations. Polson still has a Safeway since it was the only one in town. If I'm passing through I stop for old time's sake, using the loyalty card a cashier in Ft. Collins gave me. The rearrangement is bad enough but my brain works differently to whoever does the floor plan. Tomatoes are vegetables, right? Why do they sometimes get exiled to the pasta aisle? Why are Monster and Rockstar off in their own universe instead of with the rest of the canned sodas? Aren't protein bars sort of feel good candy bars? Why are Ghirardelli chocolate bars miles from Hershey bars? I usually stick to the perimeter, veggies, dairy, and meat and avoid the endless aisles of pogey bait.
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| From | not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) |
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| Date | 2025-07-14 08:34 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <68743487@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #69549 |
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 16:45:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> That might be deliberate. I've noticed the local Safeway often arranges >> (and periodically re-arranges) things in ways that make no sense at all >> - >> unless the goal is to make you wander the entire store, more likely to >> grab items on impulse that you never would have bought otherwise. > > We no longer have Safeways. Another one! Amazing, I had some idea there was one of either Target or KMart in the US, but never realised they had both, and Safeway as well! Facinatingly the Australian Target and KMart (now owned by the same company, but with KMart largely taking over) never had a business connection to the US brands. It's not clear how deliberate the name-stealing was. Reading up on the Australian Safeway, it was a direct Australian branch of the US company but sold to Woolworths in 1985, a company that Wikipedia claims did deliberately steal its name from the US Woolworth but was another Australian business (now the largest business in the country). Safeway stores have now all been rebranded to Woolworths, although not until 2007 here in the state of Victoria. Recent news is that The Reject Shop, an Australian retail chain that doesn't seem to have stolen any branding from overseas, was sold to Canadian company Dollarama in March, who might rebrand the stores under that name over here. Now that I'm talking Australian off-topic stuff instead of US off-topic stuff, people are probably going to start complaining. I wonder if there's a group for discussing international retail chains? I'm facinated. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-14 03:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mdjbavFkhh3U2@mid.individual.net> |
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On 14 Jul 2025 08:34:47 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > Another one! Amazing, I had some idea there was one of either Target or > KMart in the US, but never realised they had both, and Safeway as well! Target survived but KMart didn't, at least in the continental US. Rumor has it there are three stores in the Virgin Islands that didn't get the memo. As KMart was going down the tubes they bought Sears. I forget which died locally first. Sears was an anchor store for the mall. The mall has a charmed life and has survived, probably because it's the only one for about 150 miles. My feeling was Sears was a notch above KMart for quality but both made mistakes. Where I grew up Montgomery Wards was stronger than Sears but they're long gone too. With the mergers many of the US grocery chains are the same with different names. That was the problem here. The city figured a town of around 100,000 didn't need 4 Albertsons and 2 Safeways if they were the same thing. When I was a kid Kresge's was another department store chain but it morphed into KMart. They had a piece of KMart Australia originally but got out. fwiw we had 3 Bi-Lo stores but they had nothing to do with Coles or the chain in the US southeast. afaik they were independents. Target US is slightly upscale from Walmart. They're trying to thread the needle and failing. They were all in with gay fashions which got them boycotted like the Budweiser Light fiasco. They dialed back with the prominent Gay Pride displays so now the LGBQT+ crowd is unhappy. The slightly upscale part is probably why they don't have much in the way of cheap t-shirts. I don't care one way or the other about their DEI stuff but they never seems to have what I'm looking for.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-14 09:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fg4dQ.1071425$9SBb.804800@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #69560 |
On 2025-07-14, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On 14 Jul 2025 08:34:47 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > >> Another one! Amazing, I had some idea there was one of either Target or >> KMart in the US, but never realised they had both, and Safeway as well! > > Target survived but KMart didn't, at least in the continental US. Target made an abortive attempt to enter Canada, usually by buying out the now-defunct Zeller's chain. For whatever reason, they didn't last long. > Rumor has it there are three stores in the Virgin Islands that didn't get > the memo. As KMart was going down the tubes they bought Sears. I forget > which died locally first. Sears was an anchor store for the mall. The mall > has a > charmed life and has survived, probably because it's the only one > for about 150 miles. My feeling was Sears was a notch above KMart for > quality but both made mistakes. Where I grew up Montgomery Wards was > stronger than Sears but they're long gone too. Sears (once known as Simpsons-Sears) was a major player in Canada (remember the Sears catalogs?) when I was a child. They folded a few years ago. Lots of people out of work, lots of executives taking multi-million-dollar bonuses for running it into the ground. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> |
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| Date | 2025-07-14 18:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1053ja7$3gahh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69569 |
On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 09:40:27 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-07-14, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>
>> On 14 Jul 2025 08:34:47 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>
>>> Another one! Amazing, I had some idea there was one of either Target or
>>> KMart in the US, but never realised they had both, and Safeway as well!
[snip]
> Sears (once known as Simpsons-Sears) was a major player in Canada
In the Toronto area, at least, Sears Roebuck both had it's own stores ("Sears"),
and stores in partnership with Simpsons ("Simpson-Sears"). I have a friend who
worked in Simpson-Sears, in Yorkdale; it was housed in the basement of the
Simpsons store.
> (remember the Sears catalogs?) when I was a child. They folded
> a few years ago. Lots of people out of work, lots of executives
> taking multi-million-dollar bonuses for running it into the ground.
The Hudson Bay Company ("The Bay") bought Simpsons in the 1990's; presumably
Simpson-Sears died with that purchase. Eatons (the other big retail chain)
lasted until the end of the '90s.
--
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills We Trust"
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-07-14 19:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mdl40eFtkvvU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #69569 |
On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 09:40:27 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > Sears (once known as Simpsons-Sears) was a major player in Canada > (remember the Sears catalogs?) when I was a child. They folded a few > years ago. Lots of people out of work, lots of executives taking > multi-million-dollar bonuses for running it into the ground. My inlaws preferred Sears but we used the Montgomery Wards catalog for light reading. https://www.capdiz.com/landmarks/buildings/Montgomery_Wards_Building.php The brick and mortar store was only a few miles away so you could phone in an order from the catalog and pick it up a few hours later. Of course you could also wander around the store, watch the ShopSmith demo, fondle the firearms, and in the spring look at the chicks and ducklings in the farm area. At the time Sears was a small storefront in one of the malls where you went to pick up your catalog order when it arrived, not an actual retail presence. I think Sears did the same thing but for many items in the Wards catalog there was a ranking of good, better, and best. In my younger years I learned quite a bit about female undergarments from the catalog. Thankfully plus size models weren't a thing in the '50s.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-07-14 09:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eg4dQ.1071424$9SBb.1041600@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #69549 |
On 2025-07-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jul 2025 16:45:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> That might be deliberate. I've noticed the local Safeway often arranges >> (and periodically re-arranges) things in ways that make no sense at all - >> unless the goal is to make you wander the entire store, more likely to >> grab items on impulse that you never would have bought otherwise. > > We no longer have Safeways. When Albertsons bought Safeway they had to > divest themselves of the physical stores in town since there were already > 4 Albertsons locations. The local Safeways still exist, but they've actually been bought out by Sobey's. (We just got back from a vacation in Nova Scotia, where Sobey's stores are everywhere). -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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