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  LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Paul R Schmidtbleicher <prschmi@attglobal.net> - 2025-07-05 11:28 -0700
    Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-07-05 21:42 +0200
      Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 09:04 +0100
        Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-07-06 12:18 +0200
          Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 11:21 +0100
            Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-06 15:27 +0200
              Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 14:35 +0100
                Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-06 15:43 +0200
                  Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 16:53 +0100
            Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Paul R Schmidtbleicher <prschmi@attglobal.net> - 2025-07-08 21:50 -0700
              Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 05:57 +0000
              Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-09 11:34 +0100
              Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-09 07:51 -0700
    Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 20:58 +0100
    Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-05 22:05 +0200
      Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-06 03:16 +0000
    Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202507.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2025-07-06 00:53 +0200
    Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-06 03:17 +0000
      Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-06 04:23 +0000
    Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Paul R Schmidtbleicher <prschmi@attglobal.net> - 2025-07-07 17:29 -0700
      Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-07-08 17:27 +1000
      Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-08 13:41 +0200
        Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-08 14:11 +0100
          Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2025-07-08 16:28 +0200
            Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-08 16:14 +0100
              Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-08 08:58 -0700
                Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-07-08 21:39 +0000
                  Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-08 23:52 +0000
              Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-08 21:36 +0200
                Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Paul R Schmidtbleicher <prschmi@attglobal.net> - 2025-07-08 18:23 -0700
                  Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-09 11:38 +0200
                  Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-09 11:27 +0100
                  Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-09 15:24 +0200
              Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-08 23:35 +0000
          Re: LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-08 21:49 +0000

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#69373 — LEAP 15.6 to communicate FTP with Tumbleweed

My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6 to 
communicate via FTP

On Tumbleweed using Filezilla client

I know I need a server on at least one end: On Leap I was trying 
"pure-ftpd" server.  It claimed to be simple, but has many options (not 
explained). So I don't know how to set it up.

When started su on Leap /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd  The cursor disappears and 
until a ctrl-c, reappears so I assume it started.

On filezilla contacting I get "can't reach server - EHOSTUNREACH

So, NO-GO  ----- Any help or wisdom out there?

Thanks, Paul

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#69379

On 05.07.2025 11:28 Uhr Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

> My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6
> to communicate via FTP
> 
> On Tumbleweed using Filezilla client
> 
> I know I need a server on at least one end: On Leap I was trying 
> "pure-ftpd" server.  It claimed to be simple, but has many options
> (not explained). So I don't know how to set it up.
> 
> When started su on Leap /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd  The cursor disappears
> and until a ctrl-c, reappears so I assume it started.

Such services are normally started using systemd. Is there any reason
for you not to use this way?
How did you install it?

A rather simple ftpd exists and can be started with inetd if you want
an easy solution.

It it is running, run ss -tl to check if it really runs.


-- 
kind regards
Marco

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#69417

On 05/07/2025 20:42, Marco Moock wrote:
> A rather simple ftpd exists and can be started with inetd if you want
> an easy solution.
> 
> It it is running, run ss -tl to check if it really runs.

What he said...ftpd via inetd...

-- 
“Ideas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of 
other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

    -  John K Galbraith

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#69425

On 06.07.2025 09:04 Uhr The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 05/07/2025 20:42, Marco Moock wrote:
> > A rather simple ftpd exists and can be started with inetd if you
> > want an easy solution.
> > 
> > It it is running, run ss -tl to check if it really runs.  
> 
> What he said...ftpd via inetd...

He mentioned pure-ftpd, a different software.

-- 
kind regards
Marco

Send spam to 1751785479muell@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de

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#69426

On 06/07/2025 11:18, Marco Moock wrote:
> On 06.07.2025 09:04 Uhr The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 05/07/2025 20:42, Marco Moock wrote:
>>> A rather simple ftpd exists and can be started with inetd if you
>>> want an easy solution.
>>>
>>> It it is running, run ss -tl to check if it really runs.
>>
>> What he said...ftpd via inetd...
> 
> He mentioned pure-ftpd, a different software.
> 
And we recommended a simpler solution

-- 
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as 
foolish, and by the rulers as useful.

(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

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#69431

On 2025-07-06 12:21, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 06/07/2025 11:18, Marco Moock wrote:
>> On 06.07.2025 09:04 Uhr The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/07/2025 20:42, Marco Moock wrote:
>>>> A rather simple ftpd exists and can be started with inetd if you
>>>> want an easy solution.
>>>>
>>>> It it is running, run ss -tl to check if it really runs.
>>>
>>> What he said...ftpd via inetd...
>>
>> He mentioned pure-ftpd, a different software.
>>
> And we recommended a simpler solution

The simpler solution (if ftp is actually needed/wanted) in Leap is to 
use YaST to set it up, and that will install vsftpd. There is a whole 
chapter on the book explaining it.

<https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-reference/cha-ftp.html>

Otherwise, scp is far easier. Or sshfs.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#69432

On 06/07/2025 14:27, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> The simpler solution (if ftp is actually needed/wanted) in Leap is to 
> use YaST to set it up, and that will install vsftpd. There is a whole 
> chapter on the book explaining it.

A whole chapter is hardly 'the simplest'
ftpd under inetd is old school, blessedly simple and totally insecure. 
Juts wahy is require on a local network.

I think the man page is less than a page long

-- 
    "Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have 
forgotten your aim."

  George Santayana

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#69434

On 2025-07-06 15:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 06/07/2025 14:27, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> The simpler solution (if ftp is actually needed/wanted) in Leap is to 
>> use YaST to set it up, and that will install vsftpd. There is a whole 
>> chapter on the book explaining it.
> 
> A whole chapter is hardly 'the simplest'

The simplest is using YaST to set it up.

Remember the context, the OP is using openSUSE Leap, so YaST is the 
easiest tool to set things up. It is designed for that.

And if you do not understand how to do it, there is a book chapter 
designed for ease, that explains the concepts and the choices.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#69435

On 2025-07-06, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2025-07-06 15:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 06/07/2025 14:27, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> The simpler solution (if ftp is actually needed/wanted) in Leap is
>>> to use YaST to set it up, and that will install vsftpd. There is a
>>> whole chapter on the book explaining it.
>>
>> A whole chapter is hardly 'the simplest'

I don't think it's productive or useful to judge an idea or tool by the
size of its documentation or of the documentation for it.

> The simplest is using YaST to set it up.
>
> Remember the context, the OP is using openSUSE Leap, so YaST is the
> easiest tool to set things up. It is designed for that.
>
> And if you do not understand how to do it, there is a book chapter
> designed for ease, that explains the concepts and the choices.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#69489

On 7/6/25 3:21 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 7/8/25 6:11 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
 > Who made you God?
 >
 > Ok, Natural Philosopher: Your broke into this thread with an 
off-subject question. I would not normally do this but since you started 
it, I am prepared to give you some answers:

It starts with Genesis 1:1, the beginning sentence of His Book
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"
In reality that says it all. God "IS" - He is the Creator. His is Bigger 
than us. He created us. We are all, like it or not, SUBJECT TO HIM - all 
the heavens and all on earth.
Let me share an illustration of the ramifications of that verse in the 
life of my wife:
When she was a little girl, she helped deliver a liter of kittens. The 
kittens could say she had a minimal part in their creation.
As they grew, on rainy days, she would set them up in her play. She 
dressed them in her doll clothes. She would have some do this and others 
do that. She was their Sovereign. For some she had them dance by holding 
their paws.  If they did her bidding they got a treat. Others would not 
like this and try to run - they got no treat. It wouldn't take long in 
her play for the running kittens, watching the others get the treats, to 
feel left out. Remember: She created the play. She called the "shots." 
They could complain, so what? To them, she existed. Do it her way and 
get a treat. Follow their own "Natural" inclination and suffer the 
consequences: no treat and left out to curl up in a corner.

Now lets bring our God back into the story: His Statement: "He is the 
Creator," We are part of His creation.  Can we REALLY do anything about 
it? The kittens figured this out over several playtimes. She could have 
been mean to them - She was not. She treated them all in love. God has 
also said, He loves us.

The second verse that stands out is Psalm 138:2 which tells us that God 
"has magnified His Word above His Name" - Look it up. King James 
translation is one of the best. It means His Word (The Bible) He has 
placed His Word ABOVE His Sovereignty - above all the He could and would 
do.  In simple terms He runs His Creation by His BOOK. Know the Book and 
you know God: Learn and obey = Blessing  Ignore Walk Away = No Blessing 
and looming punishments all laid out in commands, historical stories, 
even the poetic sections.  It's that simple. Like it or not the Creator 
rules His Creation, BUT, according to his Book.
     Get out a Bible
Now some homework: Who made God? He claims "I AM:" Exodus 3:14
He is the Creator: Genesis 1:1; Isaiah 45:12 -Look these up if you 
really want to know.
He is Almighty, all powerful: Genesis 17:1
He Kills, He makes alive, He wounds, He heals: Deuteronomy 32:39
He is the ONE and ONLY - there is "none else:" Isaiah 45:18
He loves YOU: John 3:16 -Sent His Son to take your sins - including the 
arrogance to change the subject of this thread - upon His Son-Jesus to 
allow for an even closer relationship with Your God -like it or not!
Relationship with Him means Heaven - Reject it and wrath John 3:18; 3:36
  Like those kittens THE TREAT for us is harmony in the world the 
Creator has Created for us.

I could go on, but I am also breaking this thread in posting to you.  I 
will stop.

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#69490

On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 21:50:49 -0700, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

> It starts with Genesis 1:1, the beginning sentence of His Book "In the
> beginning God created the heavens and the earth"
> In reality that says it all. God "IS" - He is the Creator. His is Bigger
> than us. He created us.

But he didn’t create the eyewitness who wrote that account of creation, 
did he?

> We are all, like it or not, SUBJECT TO HIM - all
> the heavens and all on earth.

Each religion says their sky fairy is the only true sky fairy, all other 
sky fairies are false.

They can’t all be right on the first point, they can all be right on the 
second.

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#69494

On 09/07/2025 05:50, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:
> On 7/6/25 3:21 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
> On 7/8/25 6:11 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>  > Who made you God?
>  >
>  > Ok, Natural Philosopher: Your broke into this thread with an 
> off-subject question. I would not normally do this but since you started 
> it, I am prepared to give you some answers:
> 
> It starts with Genesis 1:1, the beginning sentence of His Book
> "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"
> In reality that says it all. God "IS" - He is the Creator. His is Bigger 
> than us. He created us. We are all, like it or not, SUBJECT TO HIM - all 
> the heavens and all on earth.
> Let me share an illustration of the ramifications of that verse in the 
> life of my wife:
> When she was a little girl, she helped deliver a liter of kittens. The 
> kittens could say she had a minimal part in their creation.
> As they grew, on rainy days, she would set them up in her play. She 
> dressed them in her doll clothes. She would have some do this and others 
> do that. She was their Sovereign. For some she had them dance by holding 
> their paws.  If they did her bidding they got a treat. Others would not 
> like this and try to run - they got no treat. It wouldn't take long in 
> her play for the running kittens, watching the others get the treats, to 
> feel left out. Remember: She created the play. She called the "shots." 
> They could complain, so what? To them, she existed. Do it her way and 
> get a treat. Follow their own "Natural" inclination and suffer the 
> consequences: no treat and left out to curl up in a corner.
> 
> Now lets bring our God back into the story: His Statement: "He is the 
> Creator," We are part of His creation.  Can we REALLY do anything about 
> it? The kittens figured this out over several playtimes. She could have 
> been mean to them - She was not. She treated them all in love. God has 
> also said, He loves us.
> 
> The second verse that stands out is Psalm 138:2 which tells us that God 
> "has magnified His Word above His Name" - Look it up. King James 
> translation is one of the best. It means His Word (The Bible) He has 
> placed His Word ABOVE His Sovereignty - above all the He could and would 
> do.  In simple terms He runs His Creation by His BOOK. Know the Book and 
> you know God: Learn and obey = Blessing  Ignore Walk Away = No Blessing 
> and looming punishments all laid out in commands, historical stories, 
> even the poetic sections.  It's that simple. Like it or not the Creator 
> rules His Creation, BUT, according to his Book.
>      Get out a Bible
> Now some homework: Who made God? He claims "I AM:" Exodus 3:14
> He is the Creator: Genesis 1:1; Isaiah 45:12 -Look these up if you 
> really want to know.
> He is Almighty, all powerful: Genesis 17:1
> He Kills, He makes alive, He wounds, He heals: Deuteronomy 32:39
> He is the ONE and ONLY - there is "none else:" Isaiah 45:18
> He loves YOU: John 3:16 -Sent His Son to take your sins - including the 
> arrogance to change the subject of this thread - upon His Son-Jesus to 
> allow for an even closer relationship with Your God -like it or not!
> Relationship with Him means Heaven - Reject it and wrath John 3:18; 3:36
>   Like those kittens THE TREAT for us is harmony in the world the 
> Creator has Created for us.
> 
> I could go on, but I am also breaking this thread in posting to you.  I 
> will stop.

Oh do put a sock in it.

I know *far* more about ALL religions than you do about yours.
You have no idea of the significance of the Creation myth, or the Holy 
Trinity. Or what the Jewish panoply of Angels was all about, Why Taoism 
has the concept of the Tao or what the point of transcendental 
meditation is.

Rote learning the Bible is a as dumb as the bloody bearded wonders who 
spend 5 years memorizing the Q'ran.


-- 
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in 
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in 
someone else's pocket.

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#69496

On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 21:50:49 -0700
Paul R Schmidtbleicher <prschmi@attglobal.net> wrote:

> When she was a little girl, she helped deliver a liter of kittens.

How many kittens *are* there in a liter...?

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#69380

Paul R Schmidtbleicher <prschmi@attglobal.net> writes:
> My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6 to
> communicate via FTP
>
> On Tumbleweed using Filezilla client
>
> I know I need a server on at least one end: On Leap I was trying
> "pure-ftpd" server.  It claimed to be simple, but has many options
> (not explained). So I don't know how to set it up.
>
> When started su on Leap /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd  The cursor disappears and
> until a ctrl-c, reappears so I assume it started.
>
> On filezilla contacting I get "can't reach server - EHOSTUNREACH

I don’t know filezilla but if it’s reporting the error accurately then
your problem is most likely at the networking layer, and nothing do with
the server software as such.

Can the client ping the server? If not then ftp is a non-starter. You
will need to review the networking configuration on both endpoints and
on your router (or any other networking equipment involved).

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#69381

On 2025-07-05 20:28, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:
> My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6 to 
> communicate via FTP

You asked the same question on alt.os.linux.suse. it is better to 
crosspost, not to repeat the same question.

Now I have to paste my answer from there.


> 
> On Tumbleweed using Filezilla client
> 
> I know I need a server on at least one end: On Leap I was trying "pure- 
> ftpd" server.  It claimed to be simple, but has many options (not 
> explained). So I don't know how to set it up.
> 
> When started su on Leap /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd  The cursor disappears and 
> until a ctrl-c, reappears so I assume it started.

You do not start a daemon on a terminal. You start it, possibly, by 
starting the systemd service associated with it.

> 
> On filezilla contacting I get "can't reach server - EHOSTUNREACH
> 
> So, NO-GO  ----- Any help or wisdom out there?

Documentation is normally installed on "/usr/share/doc/packages/".

YaST has an ftp server module.

Try also here:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Pure-FTPd


You should also have a look here:

<https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Documentation_List_of_Manuals>

The Reference book has a chapter on setting up an FTP server: 
<https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-reference/cha-ftp.html>

25 Setting up an FTP server with YaST #


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#69406

On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 22:05:55 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> You do not start a daemon on a terminal.

You can for debugging purposes. That way you see all the error messages 
immediately. A lot of server programs have the option “do not become a 
daemon”, specifically for this use.

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#69397

Paul R Schmidtbleicher <prsc...@attglobal.net> [PRS]:
PRS> My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6
PRS> to communicate via FTP
PRS> Any help or wisdom out there?

Can a user on either machine ssh into the other one?
If yes, then use scp instead, eg.

you@tumbleweed:$ scp -v leap:/tmp/a.txt /tmp/

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#69407

On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 11:28:25 -0700, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

> My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6 to
> communicate via FTP

FTP is insecure. Avoid.

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#69410

On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 03:17:15 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Jul 2025 11:28:25 -0700, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:
> 
>> My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6 to
>> communicate via FTP
> 
> FTP is insecure. Avoid.

I use sshd and sftp.  I don't bother with keygen and use user/password.

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#69472

On 7/5/25 11:28 AM, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:
> My goal: On the same router x.x.x.16 (Tumbleweed) x.x.x.44 Leap15.6 to 
> communicate via FTP
> 
> On Tumbleweed using Filezilla client
> 
> I know I need a server on at least one end: On Leap I was trying "pure- 
> ftpd" server.  It claimed to be simple, but has many options (not 
> explained). So I don't know how to set it up.
> 
> When started su on Leap /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd  The cursor disappears and 
> until a ctrl-c, reappears so I assume it started.
> 
> On filezilla contacting I get "can't reach server - EHOSTUNREACH
> 
> So, NO-GO  ----- Any help or wisdom out there?
> 
> Thanks, Paul
Thanks to all who responded to my original question.
(1) It has the option of being a Daemon. I just want on-off connection. 
(2) I invoke this server "pure-ftpd" from a su Dolphin; quit with a 
Ctrl-C.  The client, Filezilla, was not connecting.  At the time I did 
not realize it included a basic "pure-ftpd.conf" that needed to be 
included in calling up the server.  Filezilla then made a connection: 
Tumbleweed was connected to LEAP 15.6.

Now, the next problem: the server (pure-ftpd) is on LEAP and Client 
Filezilla is on Tumbleweed
(1) Client Filezilla on Tumbleweed (LocalSite) shows from "/" the whole 
filesystem & filestructure
(2) Server "pure-ftpd" is (Remote site) on LEAP computer. The call for 
the local filesystem starts with "/" root directory.  It yields "empty"
(3) I know it is protecting the protecting the Remote file system, but I 
am same user (administrator), same password on both computers. I can't 
figure out how to get the Remote site (LEAP) to open any directories 
since "/" comes up as empty.
(a) Permissions for "/" are owned by root (me, both cpu's), Read rites 
are for users and others.  I ran both server and client under su 
Dolphin. No change
(b) What I need to do is temporarily gain permissions for the remote 
site LEAP somehow from Tumbleweed or suspend all permissions on LEAP 
temporarily so the "/" directory will be revealed.
(c) If I reverse Local and Remote sites (Tumbleweed Remote as server and 
LEAP as client under filezilla, The Remote connects and successfully 
downloads "/" on Tumbleweed as an empty directory.

I need someone with more wisdom on this than me. I know I could run 
files between the two with a flash drive, but prefer FTP if possible.

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