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What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why?

Started byBorax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com>
First post2025-06-05 10:12 +0000
Last post2025-06-28 14:10 +0000
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  What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-05 10:12 +0000
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-05 06:44 -0400
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Michael Uplawski <michael.uplawski@uplawski.eu> - 2025-06-05 13:12 +0200
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-05 13:03 +0200
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-05 11:11 +0000
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-05 14:22 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> - 2025-06-05 17:16 +0200
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:54 +0000
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-06 14:43 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:31 +0000
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-07 02:44 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-05 21:36 +0000
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-05 15:51 +0200
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-05 14:58 +0000
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-05 16:11 +0100
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:06 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-09 08:51 -0400
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-05 18:00 +0000
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-06 15:37 +0200
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John McCue <jmccue@magnetar.jmcunx.com> - 2025-06-05 14:03 +0000
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-06-05 16:50 +0200
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:30 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-06-06 21:51 +0200
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 08:21 -0700
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-05 18:11 +0100
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 10:46 -0700
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 13:23 +0100
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-06 14:47 +0000
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-06 21:02 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:27 +0000
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-07 11:07 +0100
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-07 13:00 +0000
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-07 17:17 +0100
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-08 00:02 +0000
                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 03:31 +0000
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 08:59 +0100
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 09:48 +0100
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 09:53 +0100
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 08:09 +0000
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-09 09:47 +0100
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:31 +0000
                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-09 23:55 +0100
                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-08 14:47 +0200
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 13:52 +0100
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-14 08:30 +0100
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-14 11:01 +0200
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-14 10:52 +0100
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-14 21:17 +0200
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-14 23:35 +0000
                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 09:52 -0700
                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-16 18:15 +0000
                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-16 23:24 +0000
                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-16 18:28 -0700
                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-17 01:56 +0000
                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 08:33 -0700
                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-17 22:09 +0000
                                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 16:04 -0700
                                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-18 00:04 +0000
                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-18 04:28 +0000
                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-18 16:15 +0000
                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-18 05:30 +0000
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-14 23:30 +0000
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-15 09:23 +0200
                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-15 08:59 +0000
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-14 19:38 +0000
                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 08:07 +0000
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-09 17:40 +0000
                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-09 19:53 +0000
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-09 21:34 +0000
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:34 +0000
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-12 15:10 +0000
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-12 18:12 +0000
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 10:00 +0100
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:16 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-07 12:54 +0000
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> - 2025-06-06 01:58 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-06 00:50 -0400
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:47 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:06 -0700
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:46 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:05 -0700
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:23 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 07:59 +0200
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-09 07:20 +0000
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 10:01 +0200
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 18:20 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-09 08:59 -0400
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-05 17:37 +0000
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-05 12:15 -0700
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-06-05 20:44 +0000
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:21 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-09 08:56 -0400
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 18:00 +0000
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-10 02:09 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-10 03:25 +0000
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-10 18:11 +0000
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:40 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 03:25 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-06-09 17:58 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:36 +0000
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-06 00:14 -0400
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-05 22:05 -0700
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-06 07:10 +0100
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:39 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:12 -0700
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 20:18 +0100
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-06 21:02 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-07 03:23 +0000
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 04:42 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:19 +0000
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 07:09 +0000
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? xyz@eatspam.invalid (JCJ) - 2025-06-28 14:44 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-29 00:02 +0000
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.nospam> - 2025-06-30 10:40 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 19:29 +0000
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:23 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-07 10:57 +0000
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 12:28 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 09:38 -0700
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 18:13 +0000
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-10 02:09 +0000
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:40 +0000
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-10 10:25 +0000
                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:26 +0000
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 07:45 -0700
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 16:55 +0200
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-10 15:43 +0000
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 09:12 +0100
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-11 13:03 +0200
                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 13:01 +0100
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2025-06-11 18:36 +0300
                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 17:11 +0000
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-12 14:37 +0000
                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 17:21 +0100
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 22:27 +0100
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 03:25 +0000
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 09:24 +0100
                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-11 13:04 +0200
                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 17:29 +0000
                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-11 17:46 -0400
                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-12 02:39 +0000
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-12 14:51 +0000
                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 17:22 +0100
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 09:13 +0100
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-12 14:46 +0000
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:56 +0000
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 03:43 +0000
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-11 07:54 +0200
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-12 14:33 +0000
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-12 11:27 -0400
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 17:20 +0100
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-12 18:26 +0000
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-11 12:04 +0000
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 17:15 +0000
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-12 11:16 +0000
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 12:34 +0100
                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:58 +0000
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-11 11:57 +0000
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-12 00:08 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-06-06 12:57 +0100
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 13:26 +0100
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-06 14:53 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-06 18:46 +0200
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-06-06 18:18 +0100
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:16 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 19:37 +0000
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:14 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 20:45 +0000
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-06-06 08:29 +0300
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Jan van den Broek <balglaas@dds.nl> - 2025-06-06 08:01 +0000
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:33 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Jan van den Broek <balglaas@dds.nl> - 2025-06-07 11:03 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:11 +0000
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 07:06 +0000
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-06-06 13:44 +0000
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-06 18:37 +0000
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:20 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:10 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 08:02 +0200
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:43 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 07:38 +0200
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 07:17 +0000
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2025-06-10 12:43 +1000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:42 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 03:34 +0000
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-11 12:12 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 13:51 +0100
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-11 17:04 +0000
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-12 11:09 +0000
                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-14 19:48 +0000
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-14 08:34 +0100
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-14 19:43 +0000
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 08:47 -0700
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-18 05:20 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-12 00:10 +0000
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-12 02:51 +0000
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-12 11:03 +0000
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 12:12 +0100
                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@nospam.com.ii> - 2025-06-12 11:31 +0000
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-12 08:37 -0700
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 17:23 +0100
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-12 21:49 +0000
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-12 16:17 -0700
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-13 01:26 +0000
                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-20 10:37 -0700
                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-21 07:12 +0000
                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-23 14:29 -0700
                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 00:13 +0000
                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-01 14:10 -0700
                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-02 00:04 +0000
                                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-02 01:13 +0000
                                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-02 01:26 +0000
                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-02 09:25 +0100
                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.nospam> - 2025-07-02 11:56 +0000
                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-02 08:35 -0400
                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-02 23:27 +0000
                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.nospam> - 2025-07-03 11:37 +0000
                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-03 19:11 +0000
                                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 10:32 +0100
                                                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-05 19:09 +0000
                                                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 23:05 +0000
                                                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-10 00:50 +0100
                                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-10 05:47 +0000
                                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-10 09:35 +0100
                                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.nospam> - 2025-07-11 11:40 +0000
                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 23:04 +0000
                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-02 07:43 -0700
                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-02 23:21 +0000
                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-03 08:26 -0700
                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2025-07-03 12:17 -0500
                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 10:41 +0100
                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-05 10:17 +0000
                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 11:19 +0100
                                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 16:07 +0100
                                                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 16:23 +0100
                                                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 16:25 +0100
                                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 13:35 -0700
                                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 21:59 +0100
                                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 14:51 -0700
                                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-07 02:46 +0000
                                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-05 22:40 +0000
                                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 09:09 +0100
                                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-06 10:36 +0000
                                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 14:17 +0100
                                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-06 10:52 -0700
                                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-11 19:03 +0000
                                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-11 21:03 +0000
                                                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-11 21:33 +0000
                                                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-12 14:30 -0700
                                                                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 04:50 +0000
                                                                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-12 23:29 -0700
                                                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 07:01 +0000
                                                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-13 16:45 +0000
                                                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 19:22 +0000
                                                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-14 08:34 +1000
                                                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 03:20 +0000
                                                                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-14 09:40 +0000
                                                                                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-07-14 18:46 +0000
                                                                                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 19:27 +0000
                                                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-14 09:40 +0000
                                                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 19:14 +0000
                                                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-14 11:13 -0400
                                                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-14 17:07 +0100
                                                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 19:44 +0000
                                                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-14 13:24 -0700
                                                                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-15 18:21 +0000
                                                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-13 07:32 +0000
                                                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-13 12:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-07-13 17:00 +0000
                                                                                    DVD-Video DRM (was: Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 22:49 +0100
                                                                                      Re: DVD-Video DRM not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-14 14:17 +1000
                                                                                        Re: DVD-Video DRM c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-14 00:43 -0400
                                                                                          Re: DVD-Video DRM Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-07-14 17:48 +1000
                                                                                            Re: DVD-Video DRM rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 18:55 +0000
                                                                                          Re: DVD-Video DRM The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-14 14:56 +0100
                                                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-13 16:45 +0000
                                                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-13 10:03 -0700
                                                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-14 00:14 +0000
                                                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 03:24 +0000
                                                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-14 11:07 -0400
                                                                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 12:15 +0100
                                                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-07-13 12:00 +0000
                                                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 19:36 +0000
                                                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 21:49 +0100
                                                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-14 09:03 +1000
                                                                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-13 16:45 +0000
                                                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 19:40 +0000
                                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-12 10:54 +0100
                                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-12 08:46 -0400
                                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-07 02:52 +0000
                                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-07 09:07 +0100
                                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-07 22:00 +0000
                                                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-07 09:45 -0700
                                                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-07 18:26 +0100
                                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-07 10:42 -0700
                                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-07 20:34 +0000
                                                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-07 18:56 +0100
                                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-05 19:12 +0000
                                                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 09:14 +0100
                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 12:56 +0100
                                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-07 02:47 +0000
                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-05 18:37 +0000
                                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 13:44 -0700
                                                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-05 22:44 +0000
                                                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 16:38 -0700
                                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-06 04:46 +0000
                                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-06 06:05 +0000
                                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 09:09 +0100
                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 23:00 +0000
                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 23:03 +0000
                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 21:34 +0000
                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 09:45 +0100
                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-06 06:07 +0000
                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 09:14 +0100
                                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-06 21:35 +0000
                                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-07-28 21:26 +0000
                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-06 10:41 +0000
                                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-02 09:31 +0100
                                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-03 13:04 -0700
                                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-04 00:48 +0000
                                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-04 08:21 +0100
                                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-04 23:29 +0000
                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 10:05 +0100
                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 22:57 +0000
                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-07-30 22:15 +0000
                                                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 23:44 +0100
                                                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 23:21 -0400
                                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-07 10:20 -0700
                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2025-07-07 12:53 -0500
                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 22:58 +0000
                                                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-07-30 22:23 +0000
                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-06-21 10:35 +0200
                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-21 21:43 +0000
                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-23 11:49 -0700
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-14 19:57 +0000
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 08:43 -0700
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-16 23:26 +0000
                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 21:19 +0000
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 09:42 +0100
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-05 21:37 +0000
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 14:53 -0700
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-06 06:08 +0000
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-12 21:45 +0000
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-06-06 17:58 +0200
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-06 18:48 +0200
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-06 17:08 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 10:47 -0700
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 01:09 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 09:03 -0700
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:43 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-06 18:28 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-06 18:50 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 20:20 +0100
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-07 03:30 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 01:06 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 08:03 +0200
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-09 02:49 -0400
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 10:02 +0200
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:57 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 09:02 -0700
            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:48 +0000
              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 07:41 +0200
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-10 10:17 +0000
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 11:28 +0100
                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-10 13:01 +0000
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-10 18:13 +0000
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 12:39 +0200
                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 11:57 +0100
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 12:04 +0100
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 13:18 +0100
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-10 12:59 +0000
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-10 18:04 +0000
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-11 00:15 +0000
                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-11 12:08 +0000
                                OT: ot crap - was: What Window Manager/Desktop....... Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-06-11 17:14 +0000
                          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-11 00:14 +0000
                            Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-13 01:00 +0000
                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-13 01:26 +0000
                              Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-13 03:27 +0000
                                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-13 20:50 +0000
                                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-13 23:34 +0000
                        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-11 00:13 +0000
                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-10 17:59 +0000
                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 21:13 +0000
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 21:12 +0000
                    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-04 23:12 +0000
                      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-07-05 18:35 +0200
                Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:34 +0000
                  Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 18:48 +0100
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 07:15 +0000
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Narkiewicz <hello@ezaquarii.com> - 2025-06-06 19:30 +0100
      Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:17 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-07 10:54 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 12:31 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-07 18:49 +0000
          Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 23:00 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-07 16:00 +0000
        Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 01:03 +0000
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 19:18 +0000
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-06-06 22:35 +0200
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 10:44 -0400
    Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? xyz@eatspam.invalid (JCJ) - 2025-06-28 14:10 +0000

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#68431

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2025-06-06 08:05 -0700
Message-ID<20250606080511.00007158@gmail.com>
In reply to#68419
On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 11:46:55 -0000 (UTC)
Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I tried WindowMaker when I first started using Linux, but I found it
> too austere.  No maximize button?  I moved on.  Many years later I
> tried it again, found out how to resize and started to quite like it.
> WindowMaker is my #2 WM of choice.

Yeah, it's a bit minimalist compared to some, but I set up keyboard
shortcuts for a lot of that functionality anyway.

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#68569

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-06-09 03:23 +0000
Message-ID<1025k3k$alt7$10@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68389
On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 08:21:26 -0700, John Ames wrote:

> ... and it's also designed for a layout that naturally "letterboxes"
> today's absolutely inescapable widescreen displays (which I loathe)
> ...

16:9 is an annoying ratio to use on a computer screen. 8:5 (or 16:10, for 
the maths-challenged) is a more natural fit, and is (not) coincidentally 
almost exactly the “golden ratio”.

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#68570

FromMarc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us>
Date2025-06-09 07:59 +0200
Message-ID<1025t8n$hgg5$1@news1.tnib.de>
In reply to#68569
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 08:21:26 -0700, John Ames wrote:
>> ... and it's also designed for a layout that naturally "letterboxes"
>> today's absolutely inescapable widescreen displays (which I loathe)
>> ...
>
>16:9 is an annoying ratio to use on a computer screen. 8:5 (or 16:10, for 
>the maths-challenged) is a more natural fit, and is (not) coincidentally 
>almost exactly the “golden ratio”.

I barely notice that difference. You usually cannot choose your
display dimensions in that level of detail if you care for other
values in your machine.

Greetings
Marc
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#68578

FromBorax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com>
Date2025-06-09 07:20 +0000
Message-ID<slrn104d2pb.7tu.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>
In reply to#68570
On 2025-06-09, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> wrote:
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 08:21:26 -0700, John Ames wrote:
>>> ... and it's also designed for a layout that naturally "letterboxes"
>>> today's absolutely inescapable widescreen displays (which I loathe)
>>> ...
>>
>>16:9 is an annoying ratio to use on a computer screen. 8:5 (or 16:10, for 
>>the maths-challenged) is a more natural fit, and is (not) coincidentally 
>>almost exactly the “golden ratio”.
>
> I barely notice that difference. You usually cannot choose your
> display dimensions in that level of detail if you care for other
> values in your machine.
>
> Greetings
> Marc


I have a 16:10 monitor, specifically sought that ratio.  Haven't had na
issue selecting that dispay dimension.

The difference is a bit noticeable when gaming.

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#68580

FromMarc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us>
Date2025-06-09 10:01 +0200
Message-ID<10264c2$i0to$1@news1.tnib.de>
In reply to#68578
Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>The difference is a bit noticeable when gaming.

Now THAT is something that I praise myself for not needing.

Grüße
Marc
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#68598

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-06-09 18:20 +0000
Message-ID<maomv5Fa4fmU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68580
On Mon, 09 Jun 2025 10:01:06 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

> Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>The difference is a bit noticeable when gaming.
> 
> Now THAT is something that I praise myself for not needing.
> 
> Grüße Marc

Other than 'I need my Office' that seems to be the most popular complaint 
about Linux. I'll admit to buying an XBox 360 about 15 years ago but the 
thrill wore off fast.  I ran into LitRPG and that doesn't do anything for 
me either.


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#68588

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-06-09 08:59 -0400
Message-ID<1026lqo$hj96$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68569
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 08:21:26 -0700, John Ames wrote:
>
>> ... and it's also designed for a layout that naturally "letterboxes"
>> today's absolutely inescapable widescreen displays (which I loathe)
>> ...
>
> 16:9 is an annoying ratio to use on a computer screen. 8:5 (or 16:10, for 
> the maths-challenged) is a more natural fit, and is (not) coincidentally 
> almost exactly the “golden ratio”.

Mine (desktop that is) is 32:9 ... two monitors.

-- 
The Worst American Poet
	Julia Moore, "the Sweet Singer of Michigan" (1847-1920) was so bad that
Mark Twain said her first book gave him joy for 20 years.
		-- Stephen Pile, "The Book of Heroic Failures"

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#68394

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-06-05 17:37 +0000
Message-ID<mae2viFfm61U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68375
On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 10:12:57 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote:

> So, what Desktop Environment/Window Manager do you use, and why?  Also,
> what do you think your choice of environment has to offer that isn't
> found, or rarely found in others?

Which box?  GNOME, KDE, LXQt, Xfce, PIXEL (modified LXDE for Raspberry Pi 
OS)

GNOME is my least favorite but they all work.

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#68397

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2025-06-05 12:15 -0700
Message-ID<101sqch$1n722$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68375

On 6/5/25 03:12, Borax Man wrote:
> To get away from crappy politics, I thought I'd start a thread for my
> own curiosity.
> 
> One of the big selling points of Free Software OSs like Linux for me, is
> choice of Graphical Environment.  Being able to custom my environment
> the way *I* envisage it should be, as opposed to someone elses vision is
> probably more important for me than the GPL licence itself.
> 
> So, what Desktop Environment/Window Manager do you use, and why?  Also,
> what do you think your choice of environment has to offer that isn't
> found, or rarely found in others?

	I use KDE but am still on Plasma 5 as Plasma 6 seems to be lacking some 
refinements. I use KDE because I am most familiar using it starting with 
Mandriva
in 2006 or thereabouts. I have used Gnome 2.4 for a couple of weeks to 
see how
that went but it was not so handy when i did it as KDE. I have looked at 
Unity which
was repulsive as well as many other DEs which do a lot to hide the 
working of the
system. I still use X and Wayland like Plasma 6 seems to be unrefined 
compared
to X which of course has been around a lot longer to have some of the 
rough spots
taken care of.

bliss-Dell Precision 7730-PCLOS 2025.05- Linux 6.12.30 pclos1-KDE Plasma 
5.27.11

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#68398

FromEli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com>
Date2025-06-05 20:44 +0000
Message-ID<eli$2506051644@qaz.wtf>
In reply to#68375
In comp.os.linux.misc, Borax Man  <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> So, what Desktop Environment/Window Manager do you use, and why?  Also,
> what do you think your choice of environment has to offer that isn't
> found, or rarely found in others?

I've been using Unix or Unix-like for almost 35 years. I've changed
window managers only a few times in that span. My most recent change
was maybe twenty years ago when SUSE packages dropped what I was using
previously (I think that was sawfish, but I'm a little hazy now) and so
I went through the available WMs until I found one that was not a lot of
work to get how I like it. The one I settled on is IceWM.

What I like is a minimal UI from a window manager, easy keyboard
shortcuts, and a low noise theme. I do not want window transparancy. I
do not want a desktop image. I do not want a desktop with icons. I do
not want bells and whistles. I want xterms, Firefox, mplayer, and
xmodmap.

On my Asus Eee 900 device, with a tiny screen, I modified one of the
default themes to halve the size of all the window decorations. That was
about 2009. I don't have a screen shot handy and I stopped using it. I
think there was a minor issue with the theme after the icewm 2 to 3
upgrade.

For $WORK, I was using Centos 6.x in 2019, which was late for Centos 6,
and I had a really hard time getting a window manager to work, even
icewm compiled from source had issues and I didn't have all day to deal
with them. I settled on twm for that machine. I ended up hacking simple
lemonbar script together to give me a status bar with xterm launchers
and a clock, and then I found it reasonably okay.

Elijah
------
has not explored what's new in window managers in last twenty years

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#68568

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-06-09 03:21 +0000
Message-ID<1025jut$alt7$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68398
On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 20:44:45 -0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded wrote:

> For $WORK, I was using Centos 6.x in 2019, which was late for Centos 6,
> and I had a really hard time getting a window manager to work, even
> icewm compiled from source had issues and I didn't have all day to deal
> with them. I settled on twm for that machine.

They made you use an RHEL-equivalent on the desktop?? I would relegate 
that sort of thing strictly as a server, and a headless one at that.

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#68587

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2025-06-09 08:56 -0400
Message-ID<1026lm6$hj96$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68568
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 20:44:45 -0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded wrote:
>
>> For $WORK, I was using Centos 6.x in 2019, which was late for Centos 6,
>> and I had a really hard time getting a window manager to work, even
>> icewm compiled from source had issues and I didn't have all day to deal
>> with them. I settled on twm for that machine.
>
> They made you use an RHEL-equivalent on the desktop?? I would relegate 
> that sort of thing strictly as a server, and a headless one at that.

The $BASE where I worked for awhile allowed Linux (with some basic support),
so I installed Debian on my laptop workstations. But after awhile they
demanded Red Hat; but CentOS was acceptable, so that's what I used.
It was fine. (Fluxbox as the window manager, of course.)

One minor pain was have to rebuild and install security modules
every so often.

-- 
Old MacLinus had a stack/l-i-n-u-x/and on this stack he had a trace/l-i-n-u-x
with an Oops-Oops here and an Oops-Oops there
here an Oops, there an Oops, everywhere an Oops-Oops.
		-- tjimenez@site.gmu.edu, linux.dev.kernel

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#68596

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-06-09 18:00 +0000
Message-ID<maolpuFa4fmU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68587
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 08:56:38 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> The $BASE where I worked for awhile allowed Linux (with some basic
> support),
> so I installed Debian on my laptop workstations. But after awhile they
> demanded Red Hat; but CentOS was acceptable, so that's what I used.
> It was fine. (Fluxbox as the window manager, of course.)

IT where I worked tried their best to ignore Linux so there was no policy, 
except maybe not using distros like RHEL that cost money. Since we all had 
to build and run the software it pointed out some of the little distro 
quirks. 

Moving from AIX was an interesting exercise too. AIX was extremely lenient 
about NULL accesses. While it was never good technique defining variable 
in header files got a pass for years. Then whatever gcc shipped with 
Debian Bullseye got snotty about multiple definitions. 

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#68614

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-06-10 02:09 +0000
Message-ID<TtM1Q.1142950$6%s6.346385@fx12.iad>
In reply to#68596
On 2025-06-09, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> Moving from AIX was an interesting exercise too. AIX was extremely lenient 
> about NULL accesses. While it was never good technique defining variable 
> in header files got a pass for years. Then whatever gcc shipped with 
> Debian Bullseye got snotty about multiple definitions. 

Define PRIMARY in your main module, but not in the others.
Then, in the .h file that all your modules include:

#ifndef PRIMARY
#define GLOBAL extern
#endif

GLOBAL int foo;

Works a treat, even on the latest gcc.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#68615

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-06-10 03:25 +0000
Message-ID<mapmt2Ffmk2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68614
On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 02:09:55 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2025-06-09, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> Moving from AIX was an interesting exercise too. AIX was extremely
>> lenient about NULL accesses. While it was never good technique defining
>> variable in header files got a pass for years. Then whatever gcc
>> shipped with Debian Bullseye got snotty about multiple definitions.
> 
> Define PRIMARY in your main module, but not in the others.
> Then, in the .h file that all your modules include:
> 
> #ifndef PRIMARY #define GLOBAL extern #endif
> 
> GLOBAL int foo;
> 
> Works a treat, even on the latest gcc.

I can't remember the flag offhand but it was easier to set it in the 
Makefiles. When you're dealing with over 25 years of technical debt with 
convoluted includes you tend to take the easiest way out. 

A problem with having very little turnover in the programming staff is no 
newbie to assign to the scut work. 

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#68644

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-06-10 18:11 +0000
Message-ID<Yy_1Q.1243794$G6Lf.718753@fx17.iad>
In reply to#68615
On 2025-06-10, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 02:09:55 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On 2025-06-09, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Moving from AIX was an interesting exercise too. AIX was extremely
>>> lenient about NULL accesses. While it was never good technique defining
>>> variable in header files got a pass for years. Then whatever gcc
>>> shipped with Debian Bullseye got snotty about multiple definitions.
>> 
>> Define PRIMARY in your main module, but not in the others.
>> Then, in the .h file that all your modules include:
>> 
>> #ifndef PRIMARY #define GLOBAL extern #endif
>> 
>> GLOBAL int foo;
>> 
>> Works a treat, even on the latest gcc.
>
> I can't remember the flag offhand but it was easier to set it in the 
> Makefiles. When you're dealing with over 25 years of technical debt with 
> convoluted includes you tend to take the easiest way out. 

That would work too.

> A problem with having very little turnover in the programming staff is no 
> newbie to assign to the scut work. 

That's why I try to automate the scut work as much as possible.  :-)

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#68655

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-06-10 23:40 +0000
Message-ID<102afpj$1icjg$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68644
On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 18:11:04 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> That's why I try to automate the scut work as much as possible.  :-)

That’s what computers are for: the universal machine, that you can program 
to perform any boring, repetitive task. That’s why we have build scripts, 
that some IDE-centric Windows-bred developers don’t seem to like very 
much.

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#68616

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-06-10 03:25 +0000
Message-ID<10288k4$113t9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68614
On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 02:09:55 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> Define PRIMARY in your main module, but not in the others.
> Then, in the .h file that all your modules include:
> 
> #ifndef PRIMARY
> #define GLOBAL extern
> #endif
> 
> GLOBAL int foo;
> 
> Works a treat, even on the latest gcc.

I think the original K&R C was quite happy to have global variables 
multiply defined. They were effectively implemented the same way as 
Fortran named COMMON blocks: the allocations for the different definitions 
were overlaid on one another.

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#68595

FromEli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com>
Date2025-06-09 17:58 +0000
Message-ID<eli$2506091358@qaz.wtf>
In reply to#68568
In comp.os.linux.misc, Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> They made you use an RHEL-equivalent on the desktop?? I would relegate 
> that sort of thing strictly as a server, and a headless one at that.

My preference is to use whatever distro $WORK uses in prod. At current
$WORK, there's at least three to pick from and I have Ubuntu.

Elijah
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current $WORK has a supported Ubuntu install for employees, too

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#68604

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-06-09 22:36 +0000
Message-ID<1027nlj$ptre$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68595
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 17:58:45 -0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.misc, Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> They made you use an RHEL-equivalent on the desktop?? I would relegate
>> that sort of thing strictly as a server, and a headless one at that.
> 
> My preference is to use whatever distro $WORK uses in prod. At current
> $WORK, there's at least three to pick from and I have Ubuntu.

That sounds good. My main client at the moment is fond of Debian, and so 
am I. We run Debian Stable on his servers, I run Debian Unstable on my 
personal machines.

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