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Distros specifically designed for children

Started byCtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com>
First post2025-05-21 20:17 +0000
Last post2025-06-03 18:09 +0200
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  Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-21 20:17 +0000
    Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-21 22:42 +0200
      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-21 13:47 -0700
        Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-21 22:22 +0000
          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-22 09:30 +0200
          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-24 04:45 +0000
            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-24 05:34 +0000
              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-24 08:45 +0000
                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-24 11:44 +0200
                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-24 11:26 +0100
            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-24 12:20 +0000
              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-24 22:57 +0000
                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-25 11:01 +0000
                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-25 12:17 +0100
              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-25 09:13 +0000
                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-25 11:44 +0100
                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-25 18:13 +0000
                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-25 11:10 +0000
                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-25 12:22 +0100
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-25 21:37 +0000
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-26 04:13 +0000
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:39 +0100
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 01:46 -0400
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-26 11:15 +0000
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:48 +0100
                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-25 14:42 -0700
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-25 21:49 +0000
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-26 04:03 +0000
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-26 11:14 +0000
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:44 +0100
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 00:34 +0000
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-27 11:49 +0000
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 22:31 +0000
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 04:52 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:38 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 01:43 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:03 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:07 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 18:55 +0100
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:34 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 16:21 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:01 +0200
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 09:40 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:07 +0200
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-29 15:17 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:02 -0400
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 05:39 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 03:54 -0400
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:14 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:55 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:26 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:39 +0200
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-31 16:11 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:15 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 13:10 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:00 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 21:22 +0200
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:36 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:21 -0400
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 04:47 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 03:43 -0400
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 17:58 +0000
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-30 11:08 -0700
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:46 +0100
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 23:29 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:49 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:39 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 16:21 +0100
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 15:34 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 18:04 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:57 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 11:53 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:40 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:53 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:56 +0100
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 02:07 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 02:04 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:51 +0100
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 16:15 +0100
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:24 +0100
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 18:01 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 19:39 +0100
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:57 +0000
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 00:02 -0400
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-28 09:26 +0200
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:13 +0100
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-28 10:44 +0200
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 10:01 +0100
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-28 13:46 +0200
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 12:49 +0100
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 03:01 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:02 +0200
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:54 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 09:52 +0200
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:52 +0100
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:34 +0000
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-05-31 01:25 +0200
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-05-30 23:37 -0700
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:51 +0000
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:31 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-05-31 09:48 -0700
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-01 00:21 +0000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-05-31 17:47 -0700
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-01 06:03 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-01 00:09 -0700
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-01 19:45 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-01 13:47 -0700
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-02 02:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-01 22:38 -0700
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-04 14:34 +0200
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-04 14:53 +0200
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 17:19 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:06 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 16:22 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:43 +0100
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:06 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:08 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-28 12:26 -0700
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 21:23 +0100
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-28 15:13 -0700
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 15:53 -0700
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 02:59 +0000
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-28 20:24 -0700
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 04:24 +0000
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 08:58 -0700
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:51 +0000
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:40 +0100
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:30 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 12:46 +1000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 23:20 -0400
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 13:49 +1000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:27 +0200
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:43 +0000
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 08:58 +0200
                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:07 +0000
                                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 10:49 +0200
                                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 21:48 +0000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:51 +0000
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 23:38 +0200
                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 21:49 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 04:41 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 04:57 +0000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:28 +0200
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 17:38 +1000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:18 +0000
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 17:24 +0000
                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-06-01 06:07 +0000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 10:51 +0200
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:49 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:25 +0200
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:45 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 09:01 +0200
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 00:17 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:24 +0200
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:43 +0000
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 17:54 -0700
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 01:52 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:47 -0400
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 09:53 +0200
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:52 -0400
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 02:58 +0000
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:45 -0400
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-29 18:36 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:46 +0000
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:37 +0100
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:04 +0200
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 09:42 +0000
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 12:21 +0200
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:42 +0000
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:48 +0000
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 21:23 +0200
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:42 +0000
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:09 -0400
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 05:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 03:46 -0400
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:36 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-05-29 13:10 +0200
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 12:29 +0100
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:11 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:50 +0100
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:50 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:43 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:49 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 18:11 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 19:18 +0100
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 23:40 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 02:55 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:47 -0400
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 05:48 +0000
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 02:04 -0400
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:30 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:36 +0100
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:06 +0200
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 09:42 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 12:22 +0200
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 19:13 +0000
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 21:24 +0200
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:48 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 09:55 +0200
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:45 +0100
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 13:24 +0200
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:42 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 16:08 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:08 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 19:42 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:25 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:29 +0200
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:49 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 09:04 +0200
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:27 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 10:59 +0100
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 12:43 +0200
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 12:07 +0100
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 14:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 23:44 +0200
                                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-01 10:49 +0000
                                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-01 13:58 +0200
                                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-01 19:52 +0000
                                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-01 22:46 +0100
                                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-02 05:23 +0000
                                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 08:37 +0100
                                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-02 07:47 +0200
                                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-02 09:02 +0000
                                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-02 10:51 +0000
                                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 12:57 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-02 14:58 +0000
                                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-02 15:38 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-02 14:59 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:17 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-03 11:58 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 18:33 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-07 02:22 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 03:39 +0000
                                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-02 09:58 -0700
                                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-02 18:05 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 09:06 -0700
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:22 +0200
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:05 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:40 +0100
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:23 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 19:11 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:07 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:47 +0100
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-30 08:41 +1000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 08:32 +0100
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-30 11:59 +0100
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 12:21 +0100
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:44 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:46 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 12:27 +1000
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 02:42 +0000
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 13:39 +1000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 04:49 +0000
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 17:56 +1000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:25 +0000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 11:02 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 09:13 -0700
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 00:24 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:24 +0200
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:21 +0100
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 11:01 +0200
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:26 +0100
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 12:35 +0200
                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 12:37 +0100
                                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-03 18:32 +0000
                                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:23 +0000
                                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:01 +0100
                                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:19 +0000
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:18 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 22:01 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-03 12:05 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 17:00 +0200
                                                          GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:36 +0100
                                                            Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 11:32 +0100
                                                              Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 19:24 +0000
                                                                Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:54 +0100
                                                            Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 08:42 -0700
                                                              Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 17:37 +0100
                                                              Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:15 +0000
                                                                Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-04 06:50 -0400
                                                                  Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 13:02 +0100
                                                                    Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 23:12 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-07 16:00 +0000
                                                                Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-04 08:48 -0700
                                                                  Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 23:14 +0000
                                                                    Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 08:45 -0700
                                                                      Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-05 23:42 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:32 -0700
                                                                          Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:37 -0700
                                                                          Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-07 02:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-07 07:05 -0400
                                                                              Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 03:46 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-08 00:25 -0400
                                                                                Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-08 08:25 -0400
                                                                                  Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-08 18:25 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-09 08:47 -0400
                                                                                  Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 23:05 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 15:34 -0700
                                                                              Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 01:10 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 07:44 +0200
                                                                                  Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:14 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-10 09:16 -0700
                                                                                      Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:45 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-06 21:02 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-06 15:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-06 00:09 -0400
                                                              Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-05 10:46 +0100
                                                                Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 08:54 -0700
                                                                  Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-05 23:46 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 19:02 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:11 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:06 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 09:55 -0700
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:53 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-29 15:39 +0200
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:51 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:07 -0400
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:23 -0400
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 09:51 -0700
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:58 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-30 11:20 -0700
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:19 +0000
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:09 +0100
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:03 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:14 +0000
                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-26 01:10 -0400
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:33 +0000
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 18:37 +0100
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 18:49 +0000
                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-26 11:11 +0000
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:42 +0100
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-26 18:11 +0000
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 20:47 +0100
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-27 03:10 +0000
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 02:05 -0400
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-27 11:39 +0000
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-27 12:45 +0100
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:46 +0000
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 23:48 -0400
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 05:04 +0000
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 02:33 -0400
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:07 +0100
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:49 +0000
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 00:39 +0000
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-27 11:37 +0000
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 22:28 +0000
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-27 17:08 -0700
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 01:28 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 00:08 -0400
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 04:59 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 02:37 -0400
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 11:56 +0000
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 14:47 +0100
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:05 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:21 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:53 +0100
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-29 18:20 +0200
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 18:54 +0100
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 09:35 -0700
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:38 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 18:06 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-31 09:25 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:34 +0000
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 23:42 -0400
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:03 +0100
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:38 -0400
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:38 +0000
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 11:51 +0000
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:06 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:29 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:57 +0100
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-29 18:23 +0200
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 18:51 +0100
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 09:37 -0700
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:33 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 16:12 +0100
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 23:07 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 00:41 +0100
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 03:17 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:15 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 22:56 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 23:27 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-31 09:27 +0000
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 11:07 +0100
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 17:27 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 22:21 +0100
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 23:04 +0000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-31 19:06 -0700
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-01 01:33 -0400
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-02 11:35 +0000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 13:03 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-02 17:04 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 22:48 +0100
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-02 10:08 -0700
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 22:50 +0100
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:26 +0200
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:45 +0100
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 11:02 +0200
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:47 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 00:05 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 02:08 +0000
                                                          OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:40 +0100
                                                            Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 11:45 +0100
                                                              Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 13:07 +0000
                                                            Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 12:58 +0000
                                                              Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 15:02 +0100
                                                                Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 19:16 +0000
                                                                Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:13 +0000
                                                            Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 18:46 +0000
                                                              Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:41 +0100
                                                                Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 05:04 +0000
                                                                  Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:52 +0100
                                                                    Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 20:06 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2025-06-03 12:23 -0400
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 08:11 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 02:03 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 06:14 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:02 +0100
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 17:49 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 19:20 +0100
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:10 +0000
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:56 +0100
                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 18:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 20:36 +0100
                                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 19:10 -0400
                                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-05 09:41 +0100
                                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-07 01:36 -0400
                                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-08 17:41 +0000
                                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-08 18:22 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 21:27 +0100
                                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 21:26 +0100
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:28 -0400
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:13 +0100
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 19:10 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:01 +0100
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 13:24 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 15:37 +0100
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:35 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:26 -0400
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-06-04 06:13 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:13 +0100
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-04 20:50 +0000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 18:35 +0000
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-07 01:06 +0000
                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-07 01:05 -0400
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-02 07:20 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 08:41 +0100
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-02 08:15 +0000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 10:17 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-02 09:57 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 12:56 +0100
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-03 00:08 +0000
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-02 17:44 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 22:51 +0100
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 00:11 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 08:12 +0100
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:17 -0400
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:06 +0100
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 01:56 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 08:22 +0100
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 17:58 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 19:22 +0100
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-03 18:32 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:48 +0000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:49 +0100
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 19:28 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:22 -0400
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:11 +0100
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 23:09 +0000
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-02 11:30 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 13:02 +0100
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 01:51 +0000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 04:12 +0000
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 13:26 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 15:51 +0100
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-06-03 15:50 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:09 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 21:57 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:16 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-04 06:45 -0400
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:48 +0100
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 22:56 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 19:32 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:25 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:19 +0100
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 15:08 +0000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 16:40 +0100
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 18:43 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 23:01 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 18:39 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 00:26 +0000
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 01:47 +0000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:11 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-02 21:24 -0700
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-03 00:54 -0400
                                                  OT: fascism, far-right (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:46 +0100
                                                    Re: OT: fascism, far-right Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2025-06-03 12:20 -0400
                                                      Re: OT: fascism, far-right Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-06-04 13:37 +0000
                                                        Re: OT: fascism, far-right The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 15:13 +0100
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-31 00:35 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 03:22 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-27 15:24 -0700
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:08 +0100
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-28 21:46 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-28 14:52 -0700
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-28 22:04 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 06:20 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 23:19 +0100
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 06:14 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 11:36 +0100
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:35 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:29 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-31 22:16 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 23:30 +0100
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-31 22:58 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-01 01:32 -0400
    Re: Distros specifically designed for children "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-05-21 18:29 -0400
      Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-21 23:22 +0000
        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-05-21 23:51 +0000
          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-22 01:05 +0000
          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-22 09:34 +0200
      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-22 09:32 +0200
    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-22 00:01 +0000
    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-22 16:03 +0000
      Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-22 20:14 +0000
        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-22 22:27 +0000
        Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-22 23:26 +0000
        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-23 06:41 +0200
          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-23 08:48 +0100
            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2025-05-23 04:03 -0500
        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-23 09:17 +0100
          Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-23 23:42 +0000
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              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-24 08:55 +0000
    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-05-22 21:04 +0200
    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-05-24 13:47 +0000
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#68286

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-06-04 04:10 +0000
Message-ID<ma9vajFgg9qU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68270
On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 19:20:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 03/06/2025 18:49, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 09:02:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> 
>>> On 03/06/2025 07:14, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 02:03:06 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Allowing free movement of former subjects will turn out to be a
>>>>> deadly mistake.
>>>>
>>>> For the Windrush generation it was beyond allowing. 'Please, please
>>>> come from Jamaica and help rebuild Britain after we lost the war we
>>>> thought we won.'
>>> Why do you hate Britain so much?
>> 
>> Why do you hate the US so much?
> 
> I don't. I just find it amusing, blissfully ignorant and occasionally
> dangerous
> 
> You *want* Britrain to fail.

Not necessarily. I do find it amusing as it flails around although it does 
get a bit dangerous as it props up Zelensky.  If rumors can be believed 
the situation may have been resolved had Johnson stayed out of it and now 
Starmer is jumping in with 'full backing'. Zelensky should contemplate 
what Britain's full backing did for Poland in '39.
 
> I really want the USA to succeed. In spite of its politicians, and its
> ignorant population

It's rather hard to succeed with an ignorant population. You see, your 
critique of the US politicians and ignorant population triggers me to 
strike back at your British chauvinism. 

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#68320

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-06-04 11:56 +0100
Message-ID<101p8ou$ojp1$16@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68286
On 04/06/2025 05:10, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 19:20:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 03/06/2025 18:49, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 09:02:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 03/06/2025 07:14, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 02:03:06 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Allowing free movement of former subjects will turn out to be a
>>>>>> deadly mistake.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the Windrush generation it was beyond allowing. 'Please, please
>>>>> come from Jamaica and help rebuild Britain after we lost the war we
>>>>> thought we won.'
>>>> Why do you hate Britain so much?
>>>
>>> Why do you hate the US so much?
>>
>> I don't. I just find it amusing, blissfully ignorant and occasionally
>> dangerous
>>
>> You *want* Britrain to fail.
> 
> Not necessarily. I do find it amusing as it flails around although it does
> get a bit dangerous as it props up Zelensky.  If rumors can be believed
> the situation may have been resolved had Johnson stayed out of it and now
> Starmer is jumping in with 'full backing'. Zelensky should contemplate
> what Britain's full backing did for Poland in '39.
>   
Oh dear. You really believe that, dont you?
Even king Donald is supporting Zelenskyy now... sinbe Putin pissed on 
his trainers

>> I really want the USA to succeed. In spite of its politicians, and its
>> ignorant population
> 
> It's rather hard to succeed with an ignorant population. You see, your
> critique of the US politicians and ignorant population triggers me to
> strike back at your British chauvinism.
> 

Well yes, I agree. But ignorance is curable with experience. Downright 
stupidity is not.
So there is hope for most of the USA, eventually.

> 

-- 
Microsoft : the best reason to go to Linux that ever existed.

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#68339

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-06-04 18:26 +0000
Message-ID<mabhedF2eclU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68320
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 11:56:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Well yes, I agree. But ignorance is curable with experience. Downright
> stupidity is not.
> So there is hope for most of the USA, eventually.

I despaired of that long ago. Same lies spoken by a revolving cast of 
actors and the people believe it will be different 'this time'. 

https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/15750971-the-most-dangerous-
superstition

Rose addresses the root problem. I can't say he sums it up since 'The Most 
Dangerous Superstition' since he beats the dead horse at length.

It appears Musk had the same delusion although it may only be sour grapes. 
The big beautiful bill doesn't extend EV credits and doesn't use StarLink 
for air traffic control.

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#68345

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-06-04 20:36 +0100
Message-ID<101q77s$10u8n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68339
On 04/06/2025 19:26, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 11:56:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> Well yes, I agree. But ignorance is curable with experience. Downright
>> stupidity is not.
>> So there is hope for most of the USA, eventually.
> 
> I despaired of that long ago. Same lies spoken by a revolving cast of
> actors and the people believe it will be different 'this time'.
> 
> https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/15750971-the-most-dangerous-
> superstition
> 
> Rose addresses the root problem. I can't say he sums it up since 'The Most
> Dangerous Superstition' since he beats the dead horse at length.
> 
> It appears Musk had the same delusion although it may only be sour grapes.
> The big beautiful bill doesn't extend EV credits and doesn't use StarLink
> for air traffic control.
> 
My take is that even with the best intentions, which is debatable, the 
problems that were so clearly expressed in the run up to the elections 
are not that easy to fix. Not at all.
Like Climate, the economy is a very complex interconnected brute that 
defies modelling, and you tamper at your peril.


-- 
Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that 
doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that 
don't protect,  masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.

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#68361

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-06-04 19:10 -0400
Message-ID<_judnU79FIbFT931nZ2dnZfqnPhg4p2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#68345
On 6/4/25 3:36 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 04/06/2025 19:26, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 11:56:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> Well yes, I agree. But ignorance is curable with experience. Downright
>>> stupidity is not.
>>> So there is hope for most of the USA, eventually.
>>
>> I despaired of that long ago. Same lies spoken by a revolving cast of
>> actors and the people believe it will be different 'this time'.
>>
>> https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/15750971-the-most-dangerous-
>> superstition
>>
>> Rose addresses the root problem. I can't say he sums it up since 'The 
>> Most
>> Dangerous Superstition' since he beats the dead horse at length.
>>
>> It appears Musk had the same delusion although it may only be sour 
>> grapes.
>> The big beautiful bill doesn't extend EV credits and doesn't use StarLink
>> for air traffic control.
>>
> My take is that even with the best intentions, which is debatable, the 
> problems that were so clearly expressed in the run up to the elections 
> are not that easy to fix. Not at all.
> Like Climate, the economy is a very complex interconnected brute that 
> defies modelling, and you tamper at your peril.


   By far, MOST people never got much of a sci-tech education.
   This includes politicians. They JUST DON'T KNOW ... and then
   can't understand why the damned nerds say they can't get
   there from here.

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#68372

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-06-05 09:41 +0100
Message-ID<101rl74$1efqc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68361
On 05/06/2025 00:10, c186282 wrote:
> By far, MOST people never got much of a sci-tech education.
>    This includes politicians. They JUST DON'T KNOW ... and then
>    can't understand why the damned nerds say they can't get
>    there from here.

I heard tell that when the Liberal Democrat Chris Huhne arrived as a 
minster in the Tory/Liberal coalition he waltzed into his ministry and 
was given the run down on 'renewable' energy by the chief scientific 
officer David Mackay, showing how basically impossible his plans were.

He flounced out and was not seen again for a fortnight.

-- 
Gun Control: The law that ensures that only criminals have guns.

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#68488

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-06-07 01:36 -0400
Message-ID<jYicncez5c59Ut71nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#68372
On 6/5/25 4:41 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 05/06/2025 00:10, c186282 wrote:
>> By far, MOST people never got much of a sci-tech education.
>>    This includes politicians. They JUST DON'T KNOW ... and then
>>    can't understand why the damned nerds say they can't get
>>    there from here.
> 
> I heard tell that when the Liberal Democrat Chris Huhne arrived as a 
> minster in the Tory/Liberal coalition he waltzed into his ministry and 
> was given the run down on 'renewable' energy by the chief scientific 
> officer David Mackay, showing how basically impossible his plans were.
> 
> He flounced out and was not seen again for a fortnight.


   Heh heh ! I can kind of believe that !  :-)

   Pols, and MOST constituents, like to believe
   in "magic". They DON'T KNOW why it can't work.
   Anyone who explains it to them becomes an
   ENEMY.

   UK ... not too long ago there was a big initiative
   to replace all gas-powered heating/stoves with
   ELECTRIC. THEN somebody FINALLY managed to explain
   that it would require a TOTAL, MAJOR, re-do of
   the entire national grid to cope with the load.

   Suddenly the initiative, well along, kind of
   just disappeared ........  :-)

   Nothing WRONG with electric ... but EXISTING
   INFRASTRUCTURE has to be UP to the challenge.
   Frankly I do NOT want gas heating/appliances
   because there are TOO many horrific tales of
   leaks and huge EXPLOSIONS. However, in USA,
   The Grid IS up to it. UK/EU ... not so much.
   The sheer EXPENSE of a national upgrade !!!

   Queen Greta Greenie ... DON'T be eager to kiss
   her tiny ass ..........

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#68546

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-06-08 17:41 +0000
Message-ID<rXj1Q.1029331$%pKb.390318@fx14.iad>
In reply to#68488
On 2025-06-07, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

>    UK ... not too long ago there was a big initiative
>    to replace all gas-powered heating/stoves with
>    ELECTRIC.

Here in British Columbia there's a movement afoot
to ban the inclusion of gas in all new construction.
It's getting pushback, though.

>              THEN somebody FINALLY managed to explain
>    that it would require a TOTAL, MAJOR, re-do of
>    the entire national grid to cope with the load.
>
>    Suddenly the initiative, well along, kind of
>    just disappeared ........  :-)

Local pols are still dreaming.  Why let the peons
have cheap local gas when it can be liquefied and
sold overseas?

>    Nothing WRONG with electric ... but EXISTING
>    INFRASTRUCTURE has to be UP to the challenge.
>    Frankly I do NOT want gas heating/appliances
>    because there are TOO many horrific tales of
>    leaks and huge EXPLOSIONS. However, in USA,
>    The Grid IS up to it. UK/EU ... not so much.
>    The sheer EXPENSE of a national upgrade !!!

B.C. has always been proud of its abundant hydro power.
But 40- to 60-storey apartment towers are springing up
like weeds - and I've heard that each one needs its own
substation to power it.  Using electric baseboard heaters
and heat pumps in place of gas will make it worse.  And
then there's the push to electric cars, with their charging
requirements.  Despite our many hydro plants, we're turning
into a net importer of electricity.  Throw in a few LNG
plants and bitcoin factories, and it's just a matter of
time before the brownouts start...

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#68547

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-06-08 18:22 +0000
Message-ID<mam2o2Frj32U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68546
On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 17:41:43 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> Local pols are still dreaming.  Why let the peons have cheap local gas
> when it can be liquefied and sold overseas?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Merchant_Marine_Act_of_1920#Importation_of_liquefied_natural_gas

The whole article is worth reading. Since there are no LNG tankers that 
meet the requirements of the Jones Act, you cannot ship LNG from 
Brownsville TX to Gloucester MA. Since LNG is fungible that led to the 
embarrassing import of LNG that could be traced back to Russia.

That's led to the US pressuring Germany into building LNG ports and buying 
US LNG. What role the US had in blowing up Nord Stream 2 can be debated. 

Because of local opposition and environmental challenges it's almost 
impossible to build a gas pipeline from an area like West Virginia where 
natural gas is so plentiful it's given away in some cases to New England.

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#68552

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-06-08 21:27 +0100
Message-ID<1024ro0$1r42$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68547
On 08/06/2025 19:22, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 17:41:43 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> Local pols are still dreaming.  Why let the peons have cheap local gas
>> when it can be liquefied and sold overseas?
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Merchant_Marine_Act_of_1920#Importation_of_liquefied_natural_gas
> 
> The whole article is worth reading. Since there are no LNG tankers that
> meet the requirements of the Jones Act, you cannot ship LNG from
> Brownsville TX to Gloucester MA. Since LNG is fungible that led to the
> embarrassing import of LNG that could be traced back to Russia.
> 
> That's led to the US pressuring Germany into building LNG ports and buying
> US LNG. What role the US had in blowing up Nord Stream 2 can be debated.
> 
It wasnt in use anyway.

> Because of local opposition and environmental challenges it's almost
> impossible to build a gas pipeline from an area like West Virginia where
> natural gas is so plentiful it's given away in some cases to New England.
> 

Logic is not a subject that is taught in the USA

-- 
     “I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the 
greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most 
obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of 
conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which 
they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by 
thread, into the fabric of their lives.”

     ― Leo Tolstoy

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#68551

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-06-08 21:26 +0100
Message-ID<1024rl2$1r42$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68546
On 08/06/2025 18:41, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> B.C. has always been proud of its abundant hydro power.
> But 40- to 60-storey apartment towers are springing up
> like weeds - and I've heard that each one needs its own
> substation to power it.  Using electric baseboard heaters
> and heat pumps in place of gas will make it worse.  And
> then there's the push to electric cars, with their charging
> requirements.  Despite our many hydro plants, we're turning
> into a net importer of electricity.  Throw in a few LNG
> plants and bitcoin factories, and it's just a matter of
> time before the brownouts start...

Solar farms don't do well in a winter night when the electricity is needed.

Build some nukes

-- 
     “I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the 
greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most 
obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of 
conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which 
they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by 
thread, into the fabric of their lives.”

     ― Leo Tolstoy

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#68298

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-06-04 01:28 -0400
Message-ID<wxadndQfm7YdRKL1nZ2dnZfqn_EAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#68220
On 6/3/25 4:02 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 03/06/2025 07:14, rbowman wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 02:03:06 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote:
>>
>>> Allowing free movement of former subjects will turn out to be a deadly
>>> mistake.
>>
>> For the Windrush generation it was beyond allowing. 'Please, please come
>> from Jamaica and help rebuild Britain after we lost the war we thought we
>> won.'
> Why do you hate Britain so much?

   Is it "hate" - or "pity" ???

   The UK destroyed itself. Madness, idiocy, but
   that's how it is.

   It'll be pure Clockwork Orange for a long time now.

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#68325

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-06-04 12:13 +0100
Message-ID<101p9p3$ojp1$21@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68298
On 04/06/2025 06:28, c186282 wrote:
> On 6/3/25 4:02 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 03/06/2025 07:14, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 02:03:06 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote:
>>>
>>>> Allowing free movement of former subjects will turn out to be a deadly
>>>> mistake.
>>>
>>> For the Windrush generation it was beyond allowing. 'Please, please come
>>> from Jamaica and help rebuild Britain after we lost the war we 
>>> thought we
>>> won.'
>> Why do you hate Britain so much?
> 
>    Is it "hate" - or "pity" ???
> 
>    The UK destroyed itself. Madness, idiocy, but
>    that's how it is.
> 
>    It'll be pure Clockwork Orange for a long time now.

Hmm. Wait and see.

-- 
"What do you think about Gay Marriage?"
"I don't."
"Don't what?"
"Think about Gay Marriage."

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#68342

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-06-04 19:10 +0000
Message-ID<mabk1vF2eclU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68298
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 01:28:37 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    It'll be pure Clockwork Orange for a long time now.

In the mid-'60s the media had burned out the Beat Generation and the 
Hippies hadn't arrived so they turned to motorcycle gangs for the covers 
of Life and other mags. I bought a cheap paperback because the cover art 
had bikers. 

I was carrying it around to read between classes when the English 
professor saw it and praised my taste in literature. I played it cool and 
didn't let on I was puzzled by the complete lack of motorcycles that had 
been on the cover and the weird Russian slang the characters used. Of 
course I didn't have a clue who Burgess was. 

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#68219

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-06-03 09:01 +0100
Message-ID<101ma5k$3sucd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68196
On 03/06/2025 03:03, Borax Man wrote:
> On 2025-06-02, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 6/2/25 04:35, Borax Man wrote:
>>> On 2025-05-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 31/05/2025 18:27, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 31 May 2025 11:07:00 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Britain had an Empire once that dealt with all sorts of people. We
>>>>>> aren't as insular as Americans.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then the chickens came home to roost...
>>
>> 	By which you mean that the former subjects of the Empire were free
>> to come to the UK if they knew their place and many of their children
>> are now participating in the governance of the UK and Commonweath.
>> Or am I wrong about that?
>>
> 
> Now you are being colonised by the former subjects.  Truly colonised in
> an irreversible way.  India was able to get rid of you.
> 
> The UK didn't replace Indian cities with Brits, but India will replace
> you.
> 
Not really, India is OK.  Indians are very British really.

Its the Islamic invasion that is rather more worrying.


> Allowing free movement of former subjects will turn out to be a deadly
> mistake.
> 

It isn't free, its just a bit less restricted,.


> A people who decide to no longer exist or maintain their nation are just
> weak and not worthy of respect.
> 

It isn't the people who decide. It was a cabal of 'elites' lead by the EU.


> Brexit won probably because of misguided notions of "sovreignty".  The
> Brexiteers convinced the population that they could be free of foriegn
> influence, but those who votes didn't realise that they were an occupied
> country anyway.

Well that is quite close to the truth. The EU was a restrictive tariff 
erecting parochial organisation that sought to make a new USSR  based in 
Brussels. A United States of Europe. Without democracy. A one party 
state. Of unsackable bureaucrats

Speaking 20 different languages with 20 different cultures each with its 
own history.

With its industries protected from foreign competition and all set to be 
a cosy insular little place just like the USA now seems to want to be.

A 4th Reich modelled on what Hitler failed to do.

Britain however is a global nation and has been for 500 years. It simply 
didn't fit.

Many people voted for Brexit for the same reason they voted for King 
Donald. To get rid of a cosy elite who were fucking things up.

Except that that elite managed to make Brexit a meaningless piece of 
paper. by signing 'big bootiful deals' with the EU that left us more or 
less precisely where we were.
But the times they are a changing - the man and the mood that led us to 
Brexit is now a political party that is ahead in the polls.

The people of Britain haven't given up the struggle.

All across the world the dynamic is changing - the politics and 
economics of post war prosperity are pretty much dead.  And even King 
Donald won't bring them back again.

People are turning away from the current elites and looking for fresh 
ideas.  Russia is bust and collapsing and so allegedly is China.  In 
Europe people are sick of the socialists and their mealy mouthed 
morality, and complete lack of competence.

All we know is that whatever we have, Russia is way worse. Ergo we have 
to help put the bastards back in their place.

If you really want to find out what is happening outside your little 
cabbage patch, your simplistic ideas that you have been told about 
Britain, the EU, Europe, Russia and Brexit have to go.

Its not that simple.

Any more than king Donald is there because at least  half America was 
fucking stupid enough to believe he could do what he promised. And 
wasn't stupid himself.

Everyone realises the old ways don't work any longer.  That's the 
intelligence of democracies, They may not know what to do but they are 
fully capable of shaking things up till someone comes along who does.

I understand that, but I also understand that placing faith in a 
fallible human just because he or she inst the one that sat on the 
throne last time, is no guaranteed solution either.

And believing in tin pot would be dictators who want to stir up hatred 
for other nations because they are fresh out of ideas and need someone 
else to blame, is a very dangerous religion indeed.

The USA has never been invaded since the Pilgrim Fathers by a hostile 
genocidal nation. Apart from IIRC Pearl Harbour its never had the shit 
bombed out of it by people who basically want to destroy it. It copped 
out of Korea, It chickened out of Vietnam, and it abandoned Afghanistan 
and Iraq.

It simply doesn't like fighting wars and it isn't very good at it. The 
hardware is OK but by and large the people in the military don't like 
fighting. Which is a very difficult art to master.

Fine. No one likes fighting wars except tin pot dictators. But at least 
when you need to fight, you ought to learn to be good at it.

You simply do not understand that Europe has been at war since Hom. Sap, 
moved out of hunter  gathering and started to develop herding.

All the USA did was grab a shitload of land steeped with natural 
resources by murdering a few Indians who it used to belong to.

So your politics reflects that. That's fine, but please do not use that 
worldview to judge the rest of the world.

It is a mistake.

-- 
I was brought up to believe that you should never give offence if you 
can avoid it; the new culture tells us you should always take offence if 
you can. There are now experts in the art of taking offence, indeed 
whole academic subjects, such as 'gender studies', devoted to it.

Sir Roger Scruton

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#68247

FromBorax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com>
Date2025-06-03 13:24 +0000
Message-ID<slrn103tts8.9pa.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>
In reply to#68219
On 2025-06-03, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 03/06/2025 03:03, Borax Man wrote:
>> On 2025-06-02, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/2/25 04:35, Borax Man wrote:
>>>> On 2025-05-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 31/05/2025 18:27, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 31 May 2025 11:07:00 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Britain had an Empire once that dealt with all sorts of people. We
>>>>>>> aren't as insular as Americans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then the chickens came home to roost...
>>>
>>> 	By which you mean that the former subjects of the Empire were free
>>> to come to the UK if they knew their place and many of their children
>>> are now participating in the governance of the UK and Commonweath.
>>> Or am I wrong about that?
>>>
>> 
>> Now you are being colonised by the former subjects.  Truly colonised in
>> an irreversible way.  India was able to get rid of you.
>> 
>> The UK didn't replace Indian cities with Brits, but India will replace
>> you.
>> 
> Not really, India is OK.  Indians are very British really.
>
> Its the Islamic invasion that is rather more worrying.
>
>

Indians are Indians.  They may adopt some customs, but that doesn't
change what you are.

>> Allowing free movement of former subjects will turn out to be a deadly
>> mistake.
>> 
>
> It isn't free, its just a bit less restricted,.
>
>
>> A people who decide to no longer exist or maintain their nation are just
>> weak and not worthy of respect.
>> 
>
> It isn't the people who decide. It was a cabal of 'elites' lead by the EU.
>
>
>> Brexit won probably because of misguided notions of "sovreignty".  The
>> Brexiteers convinced the population that they could be free of foriegn
>> influence, but those who votes didn't realise that they were an occupied
>> country anyway.
>
> Well that is quite close to the truth. The EU was a restrictive tariff 
> erecting parochial organisation that sought to make a new USSR  based in 
> Brussels. A United States of Europe. Without democracy. A one party 
> state. Of unsackable bureaucrats
>
> Speaking 20 different languages with 20 different cultures each with its 
> own history.
>
> With its industries protected from foreign competition and all set to be 
> a cosy insular little place just like the USA now seems to want to be.
>
> A 4th Reich modelled on what Hitler failed to do.
>
> Britain however is a global nation and has been for 500 years. It simply 
> didn't fit.
>
> Many people voted for Brexit for the same reason they voted for King 
> Donald. To get rid of a cosy elite who were fucking things up.
>
> Except that that elite managed to make Brexit a meaningless piece of 
> paper. by signing 'big bootiful deals' with the EU that left us more or 
> less precisely where we were.
> But the times they are a changing - the man and the mood that led us to 
> Brexit is now a political party that is ahead in the polls.
>
> The people of Britain haven't given up the struggle.
>
> All across the world the dynamic is changing - the politics and 
> economics of post war prosperity are pretty much dead.  And even King 
> Donald won't bring them back again.
>
> People are turning away from the current elites and looking for fresh 
> ideas.  Russia is bust and collapsing and so allegedly is China.  In 
> Europe people are sick of the socialists and their mealy mouthed 
> morality, and complete lack of competence.
>
> All we know is that whatever we have, Russia is way worse. Ergo we have 
> to help put the bastards back in their place.
>
> If you really want to find out what is happening outside your little 
> cabbage patch, your simplistic ideas that you have been told about 
> Britain, the EU, Europe, Russia and Brexit have to go.
>
> Its not that simple.
>
> Any more than king Donald is there because at least  half America was 
> fucking stupid enough to believe he could do what he promised. And 
> wasn't stupid himself.
>
> Everyone realises the old ways don't work any longer.  That's the 
> intelligence of democracies, They may not know what to do but they are 
> fully capable of shaking things up till someone comes along who does.
>
> I understand that, but I also understand that placing faith in a 
> fallible human just because he or she inst the one that sat on the 
> throne last time, is no guaranteed solution either.
>
> And believing in tin pot would be dictators who want to stir up hatred 
> for other nations because they are fresh out of ideas and need someone 
> else to blame, is a very dangerous religion indeed.
>
> The USA has never been invaded since the Pilgrim Fathers by a hostile 
> genocidal nation. Apart from IIRC Pearl Harbour its never had the shit 
> bombed out of it by people who basically want to destroy it. It copped 
> out of Korea, It chickened out of Vietnam, and it abandoned Afghanistan 
> and Iraq.
>
> It simply doesn't like fighting wars and it isn't very good at it. The 
> hardware is OK but by and large the people in the military don't like 
> fighting. Which is a very difficult art to master.
>
> Fine. No one likes fighting wars except tin pot dictators. But at least 
> when you need to fight, you ought to learn to be good at it.
>
> You simply do not understand that Europe has been at war since Hom. Sap, 
> moved out of hunter  gathering and started to develop herding.
>
> All the USA did was grab a shitload of land steeped with natural 
> resources by murdering a few Indians who it used to belong to.
>
> So your politics reflects that. That's fine, but please do not use that 
> worldview to judge the rest of the world.
>
> It is a mistake.
>

The reason that the Post WWII order is dead evades a lot of people.

It is dead because the order could never have worked.  It was doomed
from the start.  Its ideals, of open borders, of open societies, were
folly from the start.  Its economics flawed, its whole ideological basis
was unsustainable.

This has nothing to do with Donald or Populists or Brexit, they are
reacting to what the Liberal Order created, a failure.  An invetiable
failure.  Blaming them is like blaming the maid for cleaning, because
you made a mess of the place.

We are seeing now the cope, the denial and the desperate attempts to
keep it going.  If only we could stop people thinking this and that.

I've heard about Russia and China collapsing for years now.  China was
supposed to collapse 10 times over by now.  Again, seething and cope
from a decrepit system.  All lies...

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#68252

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-06-03 15:37 +0100
Message-ID<101n1aj$20jc$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68247
On 03/06/2025 14:24, Borax Man wrote:
> Indians are Indians.  They may adopt some customs, but that doesn't
> change what you are.

I think actually it does.
In that customs and culture are what define almost exclusively how a 
person behaves in a social context.

My local NHS hospitals are probably majority staffed by Indians, with a 
few SE Asians and Africans thrown in, and by that I mean first 
generation people who were not born here.

They are with one or two exceptions, bloody excellent and very 'British'.

The only think 'Indian' I have noticed is that the 'Indian' female 
doctors are extremely compassionate and conscientious.  And dexterous. 
My last heart operation done under local anaesthetic was done by a 
little Indian lady surgeon with deft fingers and an absolute feel for 
not causing pain.  Every time she was about to do something painful 
'another 50 mg of fentanyl please' .

The radiologist  was a black guy from Zimbabwe and the backup nurse in 
charge of making sure  I didn't die was an Australian. Best heart team 
ever. I walked out the next day and drove home.

No. By and large Britain exists as much because of colonial immigration 
as in spite of it.
There are only one or two cultures that hate Britain but still want to 
live here.

Albanians are pure criminal thugs.

There are some ex European communists who ended up here and hate 
Britain. Marx was the first of course. Red Ed Milliband, minister  for 
energy and climate change is another.

And of course their are are chums from the Religion of Peace whose prime 
directive is to slay unbelievers. Not good really. Only fit in well with 
the communists

-- 
Climate is what you expect but weather is what you get.
Mark Twain

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#68310

FromBorax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com>
Date2025-06-04 10:35 +0000
Message-ID<slrn10408bo.i95.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>
In reply to#68252
On 2025-06-03, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 03/06/2025 14:24, Borax Man wrote:
>> Indians are Indians.  They may adopt some customs, but that doesn't
>> change what you are.
>
> I think actually it does.
> In that customs and culture are what define almost exclusively how a 
> person behaves in a social context.
>
> My local NHS hospitals are probably majority staffed by Indians, with a 
> few SE Asians and Africans thrown in, and by that I mean first 
> generation people who were not born here.
>
> They are with one or two exceptions, bloody excellent and very 'British'.
>
> The only think 'Indian' I have noticed is that the 'Indian' female 
> doctors are extremely compassionate and conscientious.  And dexterous. 
> My last heart operation done under local anaesthetic was done by a 
> little Indian lady surgeon with deft fingers and an absolute feel for 
> not causing pain.  Every time she was about to do something painful 
> 'another 50 mg of fentanyl please' .
>
> The radiologist  was a black guy from Zimbabwe and the backup nurse in 
> charge of making sure  I didn't die was an Australian. Best heart team 
> ever. I walked out the next day and drove home.
>
> No. By and large Britain exists as much because of colonial immigration 
> as in spite of it.
> There are only one or two cultures that hate Britain but still want to 
> live here.
>
> Albanians are pure criminal thugs.
>
> There are some ex European communists who ended up here and hate 
> Britain. Marx was the first of course. Red Ed Milliband, minister  for 
> energy and climate change is another.
>
> And of course their are are chums from the Religion of Peace whose prime 
> directive is to slay unbelievers. Not good really. Only fit in well with 
> the communists
>

It's an amazing world now, where you can literally say that eradicating
an ethnicity through mass immigration and assimilation is not only OK,
but the moral thing to do.  That you can advocate it, and have the
system on your side when you attack and vilify those who object.

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#68297

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-06-04 01:26 -0400
Message-ID<wxadndUfm7aRRKL1nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#68219
On 6/3/25 4:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 03/06/2025 03:03, Borax Man wrote:
>> On 2025-06-02, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/2/25 04:35, Borax Man wrote:
>>>> On 2025-05-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 31/05/2025 18:27, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 31 May 2025 11:07:00 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Britain had an Empire once that dealt with all sorts of people. We
>>>>>>> aren't as insular as Americans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then the chickens came home to roost...
>>>
>>>     By which you mean that the former subjects of the Empire were free
>>> to come to the UK if they knew their place and many of their children
>>> are now participating in the governance of the UK and Commonweath.
>>> Or am I wrong about that?
>>>
>>
>> Now you are being colonised by the former subjects.  Truly colonised in
>> an irreversible way.  India was able to get rid of you.
>>
>> The UK didn't replace Indian cities with Brits, but India will replace
>> you.
>>
> Not really, India is OK.  Indians are very British really.
> 
> Its the Islamic invasion that is rather more worrying.
> 
> 
>> Allowing free movement of former subjects will turn out to be a deadly
>> mistake.
>>
> 
> It isn't free, its just a bit less restricted,.
> 
> 
>> A people who decide to no longer exist or maintain their nation are just
>> weak and not worthy of respect.
>>
> 
> It isn't the people who decide. It was a cabal of 'elites' lead by the EU.


   Just saying ..... THIS sort of stuff is probably BEST sent
   to the various 'political' newsgroups.

   Yep, "The Elites" are responsible for much - read your
   Machiavelli - BEEN that way for a LONG time.

   There is "consumer politics" and REALPOLITIK.

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#68300

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2025-06-04 06:13 +0000
Message-ID<maa6gmFgu7gU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68297
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 01:26:39 -0400, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in
<wxadndUfm7aRRKL1nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> On 6/3/25 4:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 03/06/2025 03:03, Borax Man wrote:
>>> On 2025-06-02, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/2/25 04:35, Borax Man wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-05-31, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 31/05/2025 18:27, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 31 May 2025 11:07:00 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Britain had an Empire once that dealt with all sorts of people.
>>>>>>>> We aren't as insular as Americans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then the chickens came home to roost...
>>>>
>>>>     By which you mean that the former subjects of the Empire were
>>>>     free
>>>> to come to the UK if they knew their place and many of their children
>>>> are now participating in the governance of the UK and Commonweath. Or
>>>> am I wrong about that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Now you are being colonised by the former subjects.  Truly colonised
>>> in an irreversible way.  India was able to get rid of you.
>>>
>>> The UK didn't replace Indian cities with Brits, but India will replace
>>> you.
>>>
>> Not really, India is OK.  Indians are very British really.
>> 
>> Its the Islamic invasion that is rather more worrying.
>> 
>> 
>>> Allowing free movement of former subjects will turn out to be a deadly
>>> mistake.
>>>
>>>
>> It isn't free, its just a bit less restricted,.
>> 
>> 
>>> A people who decide to no longer exist or maintain their nation are
>>> just weak and not worthy of respect.
>>>
>>>
>> It isn't the people who decide. It was a cabal of 'elites' lead by the
>> EU.
> 
> 
>    Just saying ..... THIS sort of stuff is probably BEST sent to the
>    various 'political' newsgroups.
> 
>    Yep, "The Elites" are responsible for much - read your Machiavelli -
>    BEEN that way for a LONG time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince#Other_interpretations

> 
>    There is "consumer politics" and REALPOLITIK.

Indeed.  Do you think Machiavelli was writing a manual?

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the workstation (bare metal), but couldn't get the NVIDIA
drivers to build on it.  Reluctantly went back to 6.15.

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