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Distros specifically designed for children

Started byCtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com>
First post2025-05-21 20:17 +0000
Last post2025-06-03 18:09 +0200
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  Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-21 20:17 +0000
    Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-21 22:42 +0200
      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-21 13:47 -0700
        Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-21 22:22 +0000
          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-22 09:30 +0200
          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-24 04:45 +0000
            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-24 05:34 +0000
              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-24 08:45 +0000
                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-24 11:44 +0200
                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-24 11:26 +0100
            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-24 12:20 +0000
              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-24 22:57 +0000
                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-25 11:01 +0000
                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-25 12:17 +0100
              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-25 09:13 +0000
                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-25 11:44 +0100
                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-25 18:13 +0000
                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-25 11:10 +0000
                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-25 12:22 +0100
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-25 21:37 +0000
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-26 04:13 +0000
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:39 +0100
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 01:46 -0400
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-26 11:15 +0000
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:48 +0100
                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-25 14:42 -0700
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-25 21:49 +0000
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-26 04:03 +0000
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-26 11:14 +0000
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:44 +0100
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 00:34 +0000
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-27 11:49 +0000
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 22:31 +0000
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 04:52 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:38 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 01:43 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:03 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:07 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 18:55 +0100
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:34 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 16:21 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:01 +0200
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 09:40 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:07 +0200
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-29 15:17 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:02 -0400
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 05:39 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 03:54 -0400
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:14 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:55 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:26 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:39 +0200
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-31 16:11 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:15 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 13:10 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:00 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 21:22 +0200
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:36 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:21 -0400
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 04:47 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 03:43 -0400
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 17:58 +0000
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-30 11:08 -0700
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:46 +0100
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 23:29 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:49 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:39 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 16:21 +0100
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 15:34 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 18:04 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:57 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 11:53 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:40 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:53 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:56 +0100
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 02:07 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 02:04 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:51 +0100
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 16:15 +0100
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:24 +0100
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 18:01 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 19:39 +0100
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 17:57 +0000
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 00:02 -0400
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-28 09:26 +0200
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:13 +0100
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-28 10:44 +0200
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 10:01 +0100
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-28 13:46 +0200
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 12:49 +0100
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 03:01 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:02 +0200
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:54 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 09:52 +0200
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:52 +0100
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:34 +0000
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-05-31 01:25 +0200
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-05-30 23:37 -0700
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:51 +0000
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:31 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-05-31 09:48 -0700
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-01 00:21 +0000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-05-31 17:47 -0700
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-01 06:03 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-01 00:09 -0700
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-01 19:45 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-01 13:47 -0700
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-02 02:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-01 22:38 -0700
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-04 14:34 +0200
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-04 14:53 +0200
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 17:19 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:06 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 16:22 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:43 +0100
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:06 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-28 17:08 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-28 12:26 -0700
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 21:23 +0100
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-28 15:13 -0700
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 15:53 -0700
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 02:59 +0000
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-28 20:24 -0700
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 04:24 +0000
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 08:58 -0700
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:51 +0000
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:40 +0100
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:30 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 12:46 +1000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 23:20 -0400
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 13:49 +1000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:27 +0200
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:43 +0000
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 08:58 +0200
                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:07 +0000
                                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 10:49 +0200
                                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 21:48 +0000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:51 +0000
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 23:38 +0200
                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 21:49 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 04:41 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 04:57 +0000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:28 +0200
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 17:38 +1000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:18 +0000
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 17:24 +0000
                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-06-01 06:07 +0000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 10:51 +0200
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:49 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:25 +0200
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:45 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 09:01 +0200
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 00:17 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:24 +0200
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:43 +0000
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 17:54 -0700
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 01:52 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:47 -0400
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 09:53 +0200
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:52 -0400
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 02:58 +0000
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:45 -0400
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-29 18:36 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:46 +0000
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:37 +0100
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:04 +0200
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 09:42 +0000
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 12:21 +0200
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:42 +0000
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:48 +0000
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 21:23 +0200
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:42 +0000
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:09 -0400
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 05:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-30 03:46 -0400
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:36 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-05-29 13:10 +0200
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 12:29 +0100
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:11 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:50 +0100
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:50 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:43 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:49 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 18:11 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 19:18 +0100
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 23:40 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 02:55 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:47 -0400
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 05:48 +0000
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 02:04 -0400
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:30 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:36 +0100
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 11:06 +0200
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 09:42 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 12:22 +0200
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 19:13 +0000
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-29 21:24 +0200
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 01:48 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 09:55 +0200
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 09:45 +0100
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-30 13:24 +0200
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:42 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 16:08 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:08 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 19:42 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:25 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 07:29 +0200
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 06:49 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 09:04 +0200
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:27 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 10:59 +0100
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 12:43 +0200
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 12:07 +0100
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 14:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-31 23:44 +0200
                                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-01 10:49 +0000
                                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-01 13:58 +0200
                                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-01 19:52 +0000
                                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-01 22:46 +0100
                                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-02 05:23 +0000
                                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 08:37 +0100
                                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-02 07:47 +0200
                                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-02 09:02 +0000
                                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-02 10:51 +0000
                                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 12:57 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-02 14:58 +0000
                                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-02 15:38 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-02 14:59 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:17 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-03 11:58 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 18:33 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-07 02:22 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 03:39 +0000
                                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-02 09:58 -0700
                                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-02 18:05 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 09:06 -0700
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:22 +0200
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:05 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 14:40 +0100
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:23 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 19:11 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:07 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:47 +0100
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-30 08:41 +1000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 08:32 +0100
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-30 11:59 +0100
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 12:21 +0100
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-30 18:44 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:46 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 12:27 +1000
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 02:42 +0000
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 13:39 +1000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 04:49 +0000
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-31 17:56 +1000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 08:25 +0000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 11:02 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 09:13 -0700
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 00:24 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:24 +0200
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:21 +0100
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 11:01 +0200
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:26 +0100
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 12:35 +0200
                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 12:37 +0100
                                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-03 18:32 +0000
                                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:23 +0000
                                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:01 +0100
                                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:19 +0000
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:18 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 22:01 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-03 12:05 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 17:00 +0200
                                                          GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:36 +0100
                                                            Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 11:32 +0100
                                                              Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 19:24 +0000
                                                                Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:54 +0100
                                                            Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 08:42 -0700
                                                              Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 17:37 +0100
                                                              Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:15 +0000
                                                                Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-04 06:50 -0400
                                                                  Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 13:02 +0100
                                                                    Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 23:12 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-07 16:00 +0000
                                                                Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-04 08:48 -0700
                                                                  Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 23:14 +0000
                                                                    Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 08:45 -0700
                                                                      Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-05 23:42 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:32 -0700
                                                                          Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:37 -0700
                                                                          Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-07 02:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-07 07:05 -0400
                                                                              Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 03:46 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-08 00:25 -0400
                                                                                Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-08 08:25 -0400
                                                                                  Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-08 18:25 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-09 08:47 -0400
                                                                                  Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 23:05 +0000
                                                                            Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 15:34 -0700
                                                                              Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 01:10 +0000
                                                                                Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 07:44 +0200
                                                                                  Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:14 +0000
                                                                                    Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-10 09:16 -0700
                                                                                      Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:45 +0000
                                                                        Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-06 21:02 +0000
                                                                      Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-06 15:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-06 00:09 -0400
                                                              Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-05 10:46 +0100
                                                                Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 08:54 -0700
                                                                  Re: GIMP and Photoshop user interfaces Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-05 23:46 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 19:02 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:11 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:06 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 09:55 -0700
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:53 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-29 15:39 +0200
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:51 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-29 23:07 -0400
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:23 -0400
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 09:51 -0700
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 23:58 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-30 11:20 -0700
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:19 +0000
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:09 +0100
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:03 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:14 +0000
                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-26 01:10 -0400
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:33 +0000
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 18:37 +0100
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 18:49 +0000
                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-26 11:11 +0000
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 12:42 +0100
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-26 18:11 +0000
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-26 20:47 +0100
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-27 03:10 +0000
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 02:05 -0400
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-27 11:39 +0000
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-27 12:45 +0100
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:46 +0000
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 23:48 -0400
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 05:04 +0000
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 02:33 -0400
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:07 +0100
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:49 +0000
                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 00:39 +0000
                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-27 11:37 +0000
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-27 22:28 +0000
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-27 17:08 -0700
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 01:28 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 00:08 -0400
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-28 04:59 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 02:37 -0400
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 11:56 +0000
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 14:47 +0100
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:05 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:21 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:53 +0100
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-29 18:20 +0200
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 18:54 +0100
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 09:35 -0700
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:38 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-30 18:06 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-31 09:25 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:34 +0000
                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-27 23:42 -0400
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-28 09:03 +0100
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-28 23:38 -0400
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-31 13:38 +0000
                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-28 11:51 +0000
                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-28 23:06 +0000
                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-29 12:29 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 13:57 +0100
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-05-29 18:23 +0200
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-29 18:51 +0100
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-29 09:37 -0700
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 12:33 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-30 16:12 +0100
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 23:07 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 00:41 +0100
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 03:17 +0000
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 22:15 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-30 22:56 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-30 23:27 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-31 09:27 +0000
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 11:07 +0100
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 17:27 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 22:21 +0100
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 23:04 +0000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-05-31 19:06 -0700
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-01 01:33 -0400
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-02 11:35 +0000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 13:03 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-02 17:04 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 22:48 +0100
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-02 10:08 -0700
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 22:50 +0100
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 07:26 +0200
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:45 +0100
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-03 11:02 +0200
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:47 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 00:05 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 02:08 +0000
                                                          OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:40 +0100
                                                            Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 11:45 +0100
                                                              Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 13:07 +0000
                                                            Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 12:58 +0000
                                                              Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 15:02 +0100
                                                                Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 19:16 +0000
                                                                Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:13 +0000
                                                            Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 18:46 +0000
                                                              Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:41 +0100
                                                                Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 05:04 +0000
                                                                  Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:52 +0100
                                                                    Re: OT: [I'm not even sure what to write here] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 20:06 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2025-06-03 12:23 -0400
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 08:11 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 02:03 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 06:14 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:02 +0100
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 17:49 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 19:20 +0100
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:10 +0000
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:56 +0100
                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 18:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 20:36 +0100
                                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 19:10 -0400
                                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-05 09:41 +0100
                                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-07 01:36 -0400
                                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-08 17:41 +0000
                                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-08 18:22 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 21:27 +0100
                                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 21:26 +0100
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:28 -0400
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:13 +0100
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 19:10 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 09:01 +0100
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 13:24 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 15:37 +0100
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:35 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:26 -0400
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-06-04 06:13 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:13 +0100
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-04 20:50 +0000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 18:35 +0000
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-07 01:06 +0000
                                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-07 01:05 -0400
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-02 07:20 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 08:41 +0100
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-02 08:15 +0000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 10:17 +0100
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-02 09:57 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 12:56 +0100
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-06-03 00:08 +0000
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-02 17:44 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 22:51 +0100
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 00:11 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 08:12 +0100
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:17 -0400
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:06 +0100
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 01:56 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 08:22 +0100
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-03 17:58 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 19:22 +0100
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-03 18:32 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:48 +0000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 11:49 +0100
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 19:28 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-04 01:22 -0400
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:11 +0100
                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-31 23:09 +0000
                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-02 11:30 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-02 13:02 +0100
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 01:51 +0000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 04:12 +0000
                                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 13:26 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 15:51 +0100
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-06-03 15:50 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:09 +0000
                                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 21:57 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 04:16 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-04 06:45 -0400
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:48 +0100
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 22:56 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 19:32 +0000
                                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 10:25 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 12:19 +0100
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-04 15:08 +0000
                                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 16:40 +0100
                                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 18:43 +0000
                                                              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 23:01 +0000
                                                            Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-04 18:39 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-03 00:26 +0000
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-03 01:47 +0000
                                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-04 00:11 +0000
                                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-02 21:24 -0700
                                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-03 00:54 -0400
                                                  OT: fascism, far-right (was: Re: Distros specifically designed for children) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-03 10:46 +0100
                                                    Re: OT: fascism, far-right Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2025-06-03 12:20 -0400
                                                      Re: OT: fascism, far-right Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-06-04 13:37 +0000
                                                        Re: OT: fascism, far-right The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-04 15:13 +0100
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-31 00:35 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-31 03:22 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-27 15:24 -0700
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:08 +0100
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-28 21:46 +0000
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-28 14:52 -0700
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-28 22:04 +0000
                                          Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 06:20 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 23:19 +0100
                                      Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 06:14 +0000
                                        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 11:36 +0100
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-29 18:35 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-29 22:29 +0000
                                Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-31 22:16 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 23:30 +0100
                                    Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-31 22:58 +0000
                                  Re: Distros specifically designed for children c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-01 01:32 -0400
    Re: Distros specifically designed for children "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-05-21 18:29 -0400
      Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-21 23:22 +0000
        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-05-21 23:51 +0000
          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-22 01:05 +0000
          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-22 09:34 +0200
      Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-22 09:32 +0200
    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-22 00:01 +0000
    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-22 16:03 +0000
      Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-22 20:14 +0000
        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-22 22:27 +0000
        Re: Distros specifically designed for children rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-22 23:26 +0000
        Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-23 06:41 +0200
          Re: Distros specifically designed for children Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-23 08:48 +0100
            Re: Distros specifically designed for children Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2025-05-23 04:03 -0500
        Re: Distros specifically designed for children The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-23 09:17 +0100
          Re: Distros specifically designed for children CtrlAltDel <Altie@BHam.com> - 2025-05-23 23:42 +0000
            Re: Distros specifically designed for children 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-05-24 07:39 +0200
            Re: Distros specifically designed for children 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-05-24 10:27 +0200
              Re: Distros specifically designed for children Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-24 08:55 +0000
    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-05-22 21:04 +0200
    Re: Distros specifically designed for children Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-05-24 13:47 +0000
    Re: Distros specifically designed for children jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2025-05-25 12:45 -0400
    Re: Distros specifically designed for children 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-06-03 18:00 +0200
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#67853

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2025-05-28 16:21 +0000
Message-ID<1017d5j$3aupc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#67848
Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> At the moment, all cars that take unleaded petrol take the same size
> fuel nozzle at the petrol station.  You do not have a choice when you
> buy a car, what size nozzle you can accomodate.  You do not have a
> choice, when you go to a petrol station, to use a larger nozzle which
> could deliver fuel faster.  The tyranny!

That's a leftover from the days of the transition away from leaded 
gasoline to unleaded gasoline.  For quite some time, both were 
available (from different pumps, obviously) and the smaller unleaded 
nozzle opening was meant to prevent folks from accidentally filling 
their "unleaded only" vehicle with leaded fuel.  Doing so would very 
quickly subject them to a very expensive replacement of a clogged 
catlytic converter.  The leaded gas nozzle simply did not fit into the 
opening, and served as a huge "hint" that one was trying to pump the 
wrong fuel into the tank.

It likely persists, even in locations where leaded gasoline has not 
been sold for decades, due to the fact that politicians seldom ever go 
revise old laws that have become outdated due to time.  So there's 
likely still a statute line in some old law somewhere mandating the 
smaller nozzle size for unleaded pumps to prevent accidential filling 
with leaded gasoline.  Because that law likely still exists, the 
regulations created from it that specified the size also likely still 
exist, and none of the filling stations want to risk being fined for 
"failure to comply" so that's the nozzle size now, for all the pumps, 
long after its actual reason for being came to an end.

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#67891

FromMarc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us>
Date2025-05-29 11:01 +0200
Message-ID<10197p6$1k6fh$1@news1.tnib.de>
In reply to#67853
Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> At the moment, all cars that take unleaded petrol take the same size
>> fuel nozzle at the petrol station.  You do not have a choice when you
>> buy a car, what size nozzle you can accomodate.  You do not have a
>> choice, when you go to a petrol station, to use a larger nozzle which
>> could deliver fuel faster.  The tyranny!
>
>That's a leftover from the days of the transition away from leaded 
>gasoline to unleaded gasoline.  For quite some time, both were 
>available (from different pumps, obviously) and the smaller unleaded 
>nozzle opening was meant to prevent folks from accidentally filling 
>their "unleaded only" vehicle with leaded fuel.  Doing so would very 
>quickly subject them to a very expensive replacement of a clogged 
>catlytic converter.  The leaded gas nozzle simply did not fit into the 
>opening, and served as a huge "hint" that one was trying to pump the 
>wrong fuel into the tank.

It still keeps you from filling Diesel into your gasoline car.

Greetings
Marc
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#67895

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-05-29 09:40 +0000
Message-ID<1019a3a$3q3mn$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#67891
On Thu, 29 May 2025 11:01:26 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

> It still keeps you from filling Diesel into your gasoline car.

Or worse
<https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360655097/man-fills-diesel-tank-exhaust-fluid-wins-partial-case-against-mobil-station>.

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#67902

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-05-29 13:07 +0200
Message-ID<m9qtgcF4fbhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#67895
On 2025-05-29 11:40, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2025 11:01:26 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> 
>> It still keeps you from filling Diesel into your gasoline car.
> 
> Or worse
> <https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360655097/man-fills-diesel-tank-exhaust-fluid-wins-partial-case-against-mobil-station>.

ARGH.

Truly, in the photo both hoses seem the same.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.

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#67920

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2025-05-29 15:17 +0000
Message-ID<1019tqs$3u5kp$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#67891
Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> wrote:
> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>>Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> At the moment, all cars that take unleaded petrol take the same 
>>> size fuel nozzle at the petrol station.  You do not have a choice 
>>> when you buy a car, what size nozzle you can accomodate.  You do 
>>> not have a choice, when you go to a petrol station, to use a larger 
>>> nozzle which could deliver fuel faster.  The tyranny!
>>
>>That's a leftover from the days of the transition away from leaded 
>>gasoline to unleaded gasoline.  For quite some time, both were 
>>available (from different pumps, obviously) and the smaller unleaded 
>>nozzle opening was meant to prevent folks from accidentally filling 
>>their "unleaded only" vehicle with leaded fuel.  Doing so would very 
>>quickly subject them to a very expensive replacement of a clogged 
>>catlytic converter.  The leaded gas nozzle simply did not fit into 
>>the opening, and served as a huge "hint" that one was trying to pump 
>>the wrong fuel into the tank.
> 
> It still keeps you from filling Diesel into your gasoline car.

Yeah, that too, or at least it serves as a hard to ignore signal that 
one is about to pump in the wrong fuel.  An idiot could still carefully 
add diesel anyway, but at that point it is clearly intentional and not 
just absentmindedness.

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#67963

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-05-29 23:02 -0400
Message-ID<eVCdncOeK65pgqT1nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#67891
On 5/29/25 5:01 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>> Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> At the moment, all cars that take unleaded petrol take the same size
>>> fuel nozzle at the petrol station.  You do not have a choice when you
>>> buy a car, what size nozzle you can accomodate.  You do not have a
>>> choice, when you go to a petrol station, to use a larger nozzle which
>>> could deliver fuel faster.  The tyranny!
>>
>> That's a leftover from the days of the transition away from leaded
>> gasoline to unleaded gasoline.  For quite some time, both were
>> available (from different pumps, obviously) and the smaller unleaded
>> nozzle opening was meant to prevent folks from accidentally filling
>> their "unleaded only" vehicle with leaded fuel.  Doing so would very
>> quickly subject them to a very expensive replacement of a clogged
>> catlytic converter.  The leaded gas nozzle simply did not fit into the
>> opening, and served as a huge "hint" that one was trying to pump the
>> wrong fuel into the tank.
> 
> It still keeps you from filling Diesel into your gasoline car.
> 
> Greetings
> Marc
> 

   SOME people removed the 'blocker' AND sawed-off,
   reamed or bypassed the catalytic  :-)

   Ultra-'green' state ... butterfly valve ... you
   could cut the catalytic in and out easily. The
   air inspectors did NOT dissect your vehicle, just
   sniffed the tail-pipe. NOT theoretical here folks,
   KNEW people who did this, SAW their set ups. Early
   unleaded gasoline was kind of CRAPPY, often well
   below the rated octane number. Many hated it.

   Actually, it's barely 'gasoline' anymore ... huge
   amount of toluene added for 'octane'. Despite the
   lack of lead, it's in some ways MORE toxic. Too
   much TEL might make you see giant spiders, but
   the unleaded mixes are more carcinogenic.

   But, I suppose some block to filling your gas tank
   with diesel DOES have some uses. Note it doesn't
   keep you from, disastrously, putting gasoline into
   your diesel vehicle.

   Hmmm ... weren't all cars suppose to have turbine,
   or atomic, engines by now - they PROMISED us back
   in the 50s/60s ! They were also supposed to FLY !
   WHERE'S MY DAMNED FLYING CAR ???

   Now, just to be 'on subject', how to use like
   a PI to smartly micro-reg ignition/mix/timing
   on a vehicle for active max-efficiency ?  :-)

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#67971

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-05-30 05:39 +0000
Message-ID<m9suk8Fe9s1U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#67963
On Thu, 29 May 2025 23:02:47 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>  But, I suppose some block to filling your gas tank
>    with diesel DOES have some uses. Note it doesn't keep you from,
>    disastrously, putting gasoline into your diesel vehicle.

As a friend of mine found out when his son got helpful. The Mercedes sort 
of ran. 

 
>    Hmmm ... weren't all cars suppose to have turbine,
>    or atomic, engines by now - they PROMISED us back in the 50s/60s !
>    They were also supposed to FLY ! WHERE'S MY DAMNED FLYING CAR ???

https://www.worldsfairphotos.com/nywf64/chrysler.htm

GE sent a friend and I to the fair, trying to groom potential engineers in 
promising high school students. GE isn't what it was then, and one of the 
few things that did happen was touch tone dialing. Kennedy opened the fair 
with a TT phone and there was a booth where you could see how much faster 
it was than a rotary dial. Of course Ma Bell owned the whole shebang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4zjEwqdJQ

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#67978

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-05-30 03:54 -0400
Message-ID<ZWqdnbBI25e7-aT1nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#67971
On 5/30/25 1:39 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2025 23:02:47 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>   But, I suppose some block to filling your gas tank
>>     with diesel DOES have some uses. Note it doesn't keep you from,
>>     disastrously, putting gasoline into your diesel vehicle.
> 
> As a friend of mine found out when his son got helpful. The Mercedes sort
> of ran.

   "Sort of" - surprised. Usually some nasty EXPLOSION
   follows .......

>>     Hmmm ... weren't all cars suppose to have turbine,
>>     or atomic, engines by now - they PROMISED us back in the 50s/60s !
>>     They were also supposed to FLY ! WHERE'S MY DAMNED FLYING CAR ???
> 
> https://www.worldsfairphotos.com/nywf64/chrysler.htm
> 
> GE sent a friend and I to the fair, trying to groom potential engineers in
> promising high school students. GE isn't what it was then, and one of the
> few things that did happen was touch tone dialing. Kennedy opened the fair
> with a TT phone and there was a booth where you could see how much faster
> it was than a rotary dial. Of course Ma Bell owned the whole shebang.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4zjEwqdJQ

   "Touch-tone" WAS do-able ...

   But STILL want my flying car !!!

   When I was a kiddie, a teacher took us to the proximate
   Bell/ATT facility. It was PACKED with row after row after
   row of relay-operated dialer machines. Physically connected
   one physical line with others. SO cool to watch ! Ca-chunk,
   ca-chunk, ca-chunk the discs would go around in order to
   connect A with B - layer after layer. Straight-up wired
   contacts back then, no software. Electro-mechanical magic !

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#68004

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-05-30 17:14 +0000
Message-ID<aIl_P.196741$G6Lf.2057@fx17.iad>
In reply to#67978
On 2025-05-30, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

> On 5/30/25 1:39 AM, rbowman wrote:
> 
>> GE sent a friend and I to the fair, trying to groom potential engineers in
>> promising high school students. GE isn't what it was then, and one of the
>> few things that did happen was touch tone dialing. Kennedy opened the fair
>> with a TT phone and there was a booth where you could see how much faster
>> it was than a rotary dial. Of course Ma Bell owned the whole shebang.
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4zjEwqdJQ

I remember seeing an exhibit like that somewhere at about the same time.

>    "Touch-tone" WAS do-able ...

But you had to pay for it.  A friend and I hacked relays into our modems'
phone connection, activated by the DTR line.  A suitable driver enabled
us to pulse dial at whatever speed we wanted.  Maybe it was just the COs
updating their equipment for Touch-Tone, but we found that we could pulse
dial at 20 pps.  It was almost as fast as Touch-Tone.

>    But STILL want my flying car !!!

I'm not so sure about that.  The way people are driving these days,
the last thing I want to see is for flying to gain mass appeal.

>    When I was a kiddie, a teacher took us to the proximate
>    Bell/ATT facility. It was PACKED with row after row after
>    row of relay-operated dialer machines. Physically connected
>    one physical line with others. SO cool to watch ! Ca-chunk,
>    ca-chunk, ca-chunk the discs would go around in order to
>    connect A with B - layer after layer. Straight-up wired
>    contacts back then, no software. Electro-mechanical magic !

Early-stage techno-porn.  Loved it.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#68006

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2025-05-30 17:55 +0000
Message-ID<101crdq$jkq7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68004
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-05-30, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/30/25 1:39 AM, rbowman wrote:
>> 
>>> GE sent a friend and I to the fair, trying to groom potential engineers in
>>> promising high school students. GE isn't what it was then, and one of the
>>> few things that did happen was touch tone dialing. Kennedy opened the fair
>>> with a TT phone and there was a booth where you could see how much faster
>>> it was than a rotary dial. Of course Ma Bell owned the whole shebang.
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4zjEwqdJQ
> 
> I remember seeing an exhibit like that somewhere at about the same time.
> 
>>    "Touch-tone" WAS do-able ...
> 
> But you had to pay for it.  A friend and I hacked relays into our modems'
> phone connection, activated by the DTR line.  A suitable driver enabled
> us to pulse dial at whatever speed we wanted.  Maybe it was just the COs
> updating their equipment for Touch-Tone, but we found that we could pulse
> dial at 20 pps.  It was almost as fast as Touch-Tone.

At first you did have to "pay for the privlidge".  But at some point 
(at least with my local CO) I discovered touch tone worked even though 
there was no bill line item paying for the privlidge.

So I used touch tone from then on, without ever having paid for 
something that made the phone companies job easier.

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#68017

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-05-30 18:26 +0000
Message-ID<m9ubhtFla7eU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68004
On Fri, 30 May 2025 17:14:46 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> But you had to pay for it.  A friend and I hacked relays into our
> modems'
> phone connection, activated by the DTR line.  A suitable driver enabled
> us to pulse dial at whatever speed we wanted.  Maybe it was just the COs
> updating their equipment for Touch-Tone, but we found that we could
> pulse dial at 20 pps.  It was almost as fast as Touch-Tone.

If you were good you could dial with the cradle button. Then tone dialing 
opened the door to 2600. Seems they're still around raising hell.

https://www.2600.com/content/2600-twitter-account-frozen-over-doge-
contact-list

A couple of fledgling engineers built what amounted to a PBX in the dorms. 
Of course that was completely illegal when Ma Bell owned everything and 
they were expelled when it was discovered. The rumor was they were 
immediately hired by Bell. 

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#68026

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-05-30 22:39 +0200
Message-ID<m9ujc3FmeavU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68004
On 2025-05-30 19:14, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-05-30, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/30/25 1:39 AM, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> GE sent a friend and I to the fair, trying to groom potential engineers in
>>> promising high school students. GE isn't what it was then, and one of the
>>> few things that did happen was touch tone dialing. Kennedy opened the fair
>>> with a TT phone and there was a booth where you could see how much faster
>>> it was than a rotary dial. Of course Ma Bell owned the whole shebang.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs4zjEwqdJQ
> 
> I remember seeing an exhibit like that somewhere at about the same time.

Birmingham (UK) Science Museum, summer 1976.


>>     "Touch-tone" WAS do-able ...
> 
> But you had to pay for it.  A friend and I hacked relays into our modems'
> phone connection, activated by the DTR line.  A suitable driver enabled
> us to pulse dial at whatever speed we wanted.  Maybe it was just the COs
> updating their equipment for Touch-Tone, but we found that we could pulse
> dial at 20 pps.  It was almost as fast as Touch-Tone.

Wow.

> 
>>     But STILL want my flying car !!!
> 
> I'm not so sure about that.  The way people are driving these days,
> the last thing I want to see is for flying to gain mass appeal.

They are trying to do that with big drone like fly-taxis, automated :-)


>>     When I was a kiddie, a teacher took us to the proximate
>>     Bell/ATT facility. It was PACKED with row after row after
>>     row of relay-operated dialer machines. Physically connected
>>     one physical line with others. SO cool to watch ! Ca-chunk,
>>     ca-chunk, ca-chunk the discs would go around in order to
>>     connect A with B - layer after layer. Straight-up wired
>>     contacts back then, no software. Electro-mechanical magic !
> 
> Early-stage techno-porn.  Loved it.
> 


-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.

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#68098

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-05-31 16:11 +0000
Message-ID<3TF_P.557035$qmJf.217067@fx16.iad>
In reply to#68026
On 2025-05-30, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> On 2025-05-30 19:14, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On 2025-05-30, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>> 
>>>     But STILL want my flying car !!!
>> 
>> I'm not so sure about that.  The way people are driving these days,
>> the last thing I want to see is for flying to gain mass appeal.
>
> They are trying to do that with big drone like fly-taxis, automated :-)

At least that would avoid the aerial equivalent of road rage,
not to mention the whole racing mentality.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#68015

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-05-30 18:15 +0000
Message-ID<m9uatnFla7eU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#67978
On Fri, 30 May 2025 03:54:16 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    When I was a kiddie, a teacher took us to the proximate Bell/ATT
>    facility. It was PACKED with row after row after row of
>    relay-operated dialer machines. Physically connected one physical
>    line with others. SO cool to watch ! Ca-chunk,
>    ca-chunk, ca-chunk the discs would go around in order to connect A
>    with B - layer after layer. Straight-up wired contacts back then, no
>    software. Electro-mechanical magic !

Yeah, it worked wonderfully. After my brother moved to Seattle I remember 
my mother trying to call him on Christmas day. You'd tell an operator what 
you were trying to do and she would call back when she could get all the 
relays between NY and WA lined up and ready. It took a while.

Then there was the party line...

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#67995

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2025-05-30 13:10 +0000
Message-ID<101cand$g4sj$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#67963
c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> On 5/29/25 5:01 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
>> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>>> Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> At the moment, all cars that take unleaded petrol take the same size
>>>> fuel nozzle at the petrol station.  You do not have a choice when you
>>>> buy a car, what size nozzle you can accomodate.  You do not have a
>>>> choice, when you go to a petrol station, to use a larger nozzle which
>>>> could deliver fuel faster.  The tyranny!
>>>
>>> That's a leftover from the days of the transition away from leaded
>>> gasoline to unleaded gasoline.  For quite some time, both were
>>> available (from different pumps, obviously) and the smaller unleaded
>>> nozzle opening was meant to prevent folks from accidentally filling
>>> their "unleaded only" vehicle with leaded fuel.  Doing so would very
>>> quickly subject them to a very expensive replacement of a clogged
>>> catlytic converter.  The leaded gas nozzle simply did not fit into the
>>> opening, and served as a huge "hint" that one was trying to pump the
>>> wrong fuel into the tank.
>> 
>> It still keeps you from filling Diesel into your gasoline car.
>> 
>> Greetings
>> Marc
>> 
> 
>   SOME people removed the 'blocker' AND sawed-off, reamed or bypassed 
>   the catalytic :-)

It's an attempt to protect the absent minded masses from their own 
stupidity.  It's not in any way an attempt to prevent intentional 
modification/miss-use.

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#67907

FromBorax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com>
Date2025-05-29 12:00 +0000
Message-ID<slrn103gj2i.19bc.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>
In reply to#67853
On 2025-05-28, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> At the moment, all cars that take unleaded petrol take the same size
>> fuel nozzle at the petrol station.  You do not have a choice when you
>> buy a car, what size nozzle you can accomodate.  You do not have a
>> choice, when you go to a petrol station, to use a larger nozzle which
>> could deliver fuel faster.  The tyranny!
>
> That's a leftover from the days of the transition away from leaded 
> gasoline to unleaded gasoline.  For quite some time, both were 
> available (from different pumps, obviously) and the smaller unleaded 
> nozzle opening was meant to prevent folks from accidentally filling 
> their "unleaded only" vehicle with leaded fuel.  Doing so would very 
> quickly subject them to a very expensive replacement of a clogged 
> catlytic converter.  The leaded gas nozzle simply did not fit into the 
> opening, and served as a huge "hint" that one was trying to pump the 
> wrong fuel into the tank.
>
> It likely persists, even in locations where leaded gasoline has not 
> been sold for decades, due to the fact that politicians seldom ever go 
> revise old laws that have become outdated due to time.  So there's 
> likely still a statute line in some old law somewhere mandating the 
> smaller nozzle size for unleaded pumps to prevent accidential filling 
> with leaded gasoline.  Because that law likely still exists, the 
> regulations created from it that specified the size also likely still 
> exist, and none of the filling stations want to risk being fined for 
> "failure to comply" so that's the nozzle size now, for all the pumps, 
> long after its actual reason for being came to an end.
>

Having different sizes is a good mechanical method of preventing filling
using the wrong fuel.  Whether the standard was just happenstance or a
defined standard, the point is that fact that we could now potentially
introduce a choice, but there isn't one, doesn't really limit peoples
freedom.

My argument is that lack of choice doesn't always mean a tyranny or lack
of freedom, when there is no real meaningful, useful, or profitable
choice to be made.  I argue that some of the differences between distros
are "Choices" of this type.  Largely irrelevant to most users.

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#67940

FromMarc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us>
Date2025-05-29 21:22 +0200
Message-ID<101ac66$1msej$1@news1.tnib.de>
In reply to#67907
Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Having different sizes is a good mechanical method of preventing filling
>using the wrong fuel.  Whether the standard was just happenstance or a
>defined standard, the point is that fact that we could now potentially
>introduce a choice, but there isn't one, doesn't really limit peoples
>freedom.
>
>My argument is that lack of choice doesn't always mean a tyranny or lack
>of freedom, when there is no real meaningful, useful, or profitable
>choice to be made.  I argue that some of the differences between distros
>are "Choices" of this type.  Largely irrelevant to most users.

My Inkjet printer doesnt allow me to fill magenta ink into the cyan
reservoir either. And it even works driverlessly with Linux, just to
get back on topic.

Grüße
Marc
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#67958

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-05-30 01:36 +0000
Message-ID<m9sgcuFcingU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#67940
On Thu, 29 May 2025 21:22:46 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

> My Inkjet printer doesnt allow me to fill magenta ink into the cyan
> reservoir either. And it even works driverlessly with Linux, just to get
> back on topic.

I was surprised when I plugged the Samsung laser printer into the Linux 
box It Just Worked. I have a fraught relationship with printers going back 
decades. I seldom print and it used to be a very unpleasant experience to 
get the damned things to work.

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#67966

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2025-05-29 23:21 -0400
Message-ID<xrqcnSZFS9KxuaT1nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#67958
On 5/29/25 9:36 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2025 21:22:46 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> 
>> My Inkjet printer doesnt allow me to fill magenta ink into the cyan
>> reservoir either. And it even works driverlessly with Linux, just to get
>> back on topic.
> 
> I was surprised when I plugged the Samsung laser printer into the Linux
> box It Just Worked. I have a fraught relationship with printers going back
> decades. I seldom print and it used to be a very unpleasant experience to
> get the damned things to work.

   It IS much better now ... and I very much DO
   remember the bad old days of serial and wide
   Centronics and having to recompile drivers ...

   DID love the old 'wide' Epson dot-matrix printer
   though ... slow, but you could actually print a
   program on it without breaking lines. Had notebooks
   filled with those printouts  :-)

   On the flip ... a couple years ago I was able to
   backtrack a link on a review publication and get
   THE most recent net activity for EVERYTHING. One
   thing was a HP office printer, offshore. I was
   able to log in and make it print a test page. No
   doubt the locals were a bit confused. However if
   MALICE was intended, a lot of the things keep a
   buffer of recent docs ....

   So, 'universality' has its ups, and downs.

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#67969

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-05-30 04:47 +0000
Message-ID<m9srijFe9s1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#67966
On Thu, 29 May 2025 23:21:22 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    It IS much better now ... and I very much DO remember the bad old
>    days of serial and wide Centronics and having to recompile drivers
>    ...

In the '80s the company I worked for produced laboratory equipment 
including automatic titrators, pH, and ion concentration meters. It's all 
the same tech, different math. Anyway they had to print the results and 
the customers had everything from those little thermal printers on up, 
none of which were the same.  We'd send a gopher down the street to 
Computerland to buy a printer, develop the drivers, and send him back to 
exchange it for another. We did buy enough stuff there for real they 
didn't complain.

Fast forward to the 2000's, completely different industry, same problem 
with the clients having every POS printer ever made with the additional 
complexity of network printers, print queues, and all that. The worst were 
Lexmark. They hardly worked with Windows, almost never worked with Linux.

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