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| Started by | Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> |
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| First post | 2025-04-27 10:21 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-04-29 21:53 +0200 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 258 — 27 participants |
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Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-27 10:21 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 08:00 -0700
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-04-28 16:44 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 06:41 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 17:49 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 11:12 -0700
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-28 18:56 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 12:31 -0700
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-28 20:03 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-29 01:30 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 04:13 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-04-29 10:00 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2025-05-03 10:18 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-05-03 14:36 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 09:23 -0700
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:32 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:09 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-04-29 10:18 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-29 19:32 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-29 14:18 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 19:46 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:22 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 22:25 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-30 10:00 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-30 22:02 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-01 04:45 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 05:07 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-01 13:41 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-01 10:07 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 22:07 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 22:49 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-02 19:58 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-01 13:42 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 15:05 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-02 08:45 +1000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:27 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:15 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:42 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 07:10 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 08:06 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 22:29 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 03:10 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-02 17:18 +1000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 08:11 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 09:24 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 08:26 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-03 08:58 +1000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 23:47 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:23 +1000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 02:08 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 07:50 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-02 23:17 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:44 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-02 00:27 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 10:57 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-05 22:30 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-06 09:10 +1000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-06 01:31 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-07 09:54 +1000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-07 04:54 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-05-07 06:51 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 11:00 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-07 12:12 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 12:17 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-07 14:21 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-07 21:51 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 23:43 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 08:14 -0700
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-07 21:49 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 22:41 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-07 21:46 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 23:52 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-08 01:44 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-08 09:06 +1000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-08 01:58 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-05-08 14:22 +1000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-08 02:42 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-08 08:57 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-08 07:36 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-08 15:05 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-08 18:31 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-08 20:36 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-08 22:32 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 00:28 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 02:01 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-09 18:05 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:21 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-09 20:31 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:33 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:52 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-09 23:55 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-10 00:28 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-10 10:53 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-10 18:14 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-10 20:05 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-10 21:05 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-11 01:04 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-05-11 10:58 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-11 11:42 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-05-11 15:24 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-11 21:17 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 01:28 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-12 13:04 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 22:44 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-13 05:49 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-13 11:21 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-13 16:20 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-14 05:35 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-13 17:03 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-14 05:34 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-14 19:26 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-14 21:36 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-14 22:25 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-14 21:39 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-14 22:27 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-15 00:04 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-14 23:36 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-15 20:22 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-15 05:41 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-15 20:25 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-16 01:08 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-12 05:12 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-13 16:15 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-13 16:13 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 01:28 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-12 05:10 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-11 01:03 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-11 00:19 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-10 22:40 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-11 11:40 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-10 03:29 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:50 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-09 23:55 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-10 00:31 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-10 10:33 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 00:27 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-09 00:49 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-08 09:50 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-08 14:58 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-09 08:28 +1000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 01:07 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 02:02 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-09 07:06 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-09 01:44 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 07:58 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-09 15:20 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:53 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 09:20 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:54 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-08 09:22 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-08 22:58 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-09 21:54 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:55 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-11 00:21 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-11 11:35 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-05-11 20:00 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-05-10 20:20 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 11:11 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-09 21:30 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 07:07 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-06 01:36 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 02:00 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-06 08:48 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 08:16 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-06 13:19 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-06 22:30 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-02 14:59 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 10:53 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-02 14:54 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-02 20:02 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 22:29 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:05 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:56 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 03:18 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 02:02 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 07:58 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 11:36 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 21:02 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-02 23:59 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 02:34 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:56 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 21:47 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 22:06 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 02:33 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 22:43 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 08:28 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 12:21 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 12:17 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 20:25 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-05 09:55 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 13:48 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 02:27 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:54 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:56 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:12 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 02:28 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 02:27 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 11:33 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 02:29 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 22:41 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 08:34 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-04 22:31 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 13:53 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 20:21 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 22:40 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 06:18 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 13:12 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 16:40 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 22:49 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-05 23:52 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 05:22 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-06 18:38 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-06 22:16 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 17:41 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-05-02 18:34 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:01 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 11:35 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 15:59 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:35 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 21:08 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 12:22 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 14:41 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 15:05 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 18:15 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 19:21 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 21:40 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-06 22:27 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 11:07 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-07 21:44 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 21:22 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:11 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-05-02 19:31 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:00 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:52 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:51 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:14 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:13 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Dehmel <blackhole.8.zarquon42@spamgourmet.com> - 2025-04-29 20:11 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-29 19:04 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Dehmel <blackhole.8.zarquon42@spamgourmet.com> - 2025-04-30 21:09 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-02 20:14 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 23:59 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-03 08:09 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:52 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 22:54 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-09 21:25 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 17:53 -0400
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 09:38 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 09:49 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 11:06 +0100
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-10 11:20 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-05-03 16:48 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 02:43 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-29 19:10 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 10:37 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 10:34 +0200
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-29 19:40 +0000
Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:53 +0200
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 01:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vvbp2c$1p548$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #67386 |
On 6 May 2025 09:10:57 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > Perhaps, but since he wasn't using existing UNIX filesystems and using a > custom one instead, it seems to me like he had a choice. Linux is supposed to be POSIX-compliant (at least the parts of POSIX that people care about). > After all you can still use FAT or NTFS on Linux even though they have > more disallowed filename characters. Those are Dimdows file systems. They are not POSIX-compliant.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 02:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7t8qhF5cn9U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #67386 |
On 6 May 2025 09:10:57 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: > Perhaps, but since he wasn't using existing UNIX filesystems and using a > custom one instead, it seems to me like he had a choice. After all you > can still use FAT or NTFS on Linux even though they have more disallowed > filename characters. It could have been the same with ext* forbidding > newlines (also tmpfs etc.). Then you'd only have to worry about handling > newlines in the rare case of reading from some non-Linux filesystems > like UFS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MINIX_file_system The 'extended file system' was an extension of MINIX. How much of the technical workings of the Unix file system remained after being filtered through Tannenbaum and the extension would be an interesting question. As far as the layout it didn't fall far from the tree. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_filesystem
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 08:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <wwvcycmqiwc.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #67386 |
not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) writes: > Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote: >> Torvalds did not "allow newlines". Unix filesystems, long before >> Linux ever existed, have only disallowed two characters in filenames: >> >> ASCII null (because C strings are ASCII null terminated) >> >> The forward slash (/) (because forward slash is used as the directory >> separator). >> >> Torvalds was simply following standard Unix protocol (in order to be >> compatible with Unix standards) for what was "allowed" to be in a >> filename. > > Perhaps, but since he wasn't using existing UNIX filesystems and > using a custom one instead, it seems to me like he had a choice. Yes and no - he could have made a system that behaved differently to most (all?) of the Unix platforms of the day in any number of ways, but the consequence would be reduced adoption. We might be talking about this in comp.os.freebsd.misc instead. > After all you can still use FAT or NTFS on Linux even though they > have more disallowed filename characters. It could have been the > same with ext* forbidding newlines (also tmpfs etc.). Then you'd > only have to worry about handling newlines in the rare case of > reading from some non-Linux filesystems like UFS. I suspect the filename restrictions would make FAT as a rootfs challenging. -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 08:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7tuq6F8oteU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #67392 |
On Tue, 06 May 2025 08:48:35 +0100, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > I suspect the filename restrictions would make FAT as a rootfs > challenging. vfat does show up as the format for /boot/efi or a similar location for UEFI systems. It's small, just enough to satisfy the UEFI and get things going.
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 13:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <wwva57qnd81.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #67393 |
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes: > Richard Kettlewell wrote: >> I suspect the filename restrictions would make FAT as a rootfs >> challenging. > > vfat does show up as the format for /boot/efi or a similar location > for UEFI systems. It's small, just enough to satisfy the UEFI and get > things going. That’s the ESP, not the root filesystem. Linux doesn’t get to choose the filesystem used on the ESP, it’s part of the UEFI specification. -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 22:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vve2hi$3urkn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #67392 |
On Tue, 06 May 2025 08:48:35 +0100, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > I suspect the filename restrictions would make FAT as a rootfs > challenging. That would be a function of the userland, not the Linux kernel itself. The userland can be as simple or as complex as you like.
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 14:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1019net.2rt.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #67274 |
On 2025-05-01, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Thu, 1 May 2025 13:42:36 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: > >> But spaces in filenames cause me *far more* headaches. They are the >> greater evil. > > The real evil was the mishmash of DOS and Windows that wound up with > 'Program Files' becoming 'progra~1'. Yep! I forgot about that. So many files truncted to GUESSW~!.TXT where you LOST the rest of the filename if you moved it to a filsystem that didn't support it, then back.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 10:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vv24n5$rjdd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #67273 |
On 01/05/2025 14:42, Borax Man wrote: > On 2025-05-01, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >> On 4/30/25 6:00 AM, Borax Man wrote: >>> On 2025-04-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:18:48 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: >>>> >>>>> As for your file example though, you do demonstrate why one may choose >>>>> upper vs lower case, Windows does allow that. But should they be >>>>> *seperate* files? >>>> >>>> It should be your choice. >>>> >>> Well, you get to choose the filesystem you use. JFS2 if I recall could >>> be case insensitive, but i would play havoc with the OS if you used it >>> in the wron place. In Windows, can you make it case sensitive? >>> >>>>> However, I agree with your comment about unicode. Treating upper and >>>>> lower case letters as the same, leads to complicated rules, which may >>>>> vary from system to system, and cause chaos. >>>> >>>> Unicode seems to have come up with some standard set of “default” rules >>>> that are independent of any particular localization setting. >>> >>> These would need to be in a standard, one that filesystems can >>> implement. But then filesystems would have to implement the same >>> standard, otherwise, again issues arise. Can't see this being workable >>> for end users. >> >> >> So, in essence, the development of case-sensitive >> systems ruined it for case-insensitive :-) >> >> Same now for space-tolerant file names. > > Case sensitivity does cause problems here and there, and it was > initially confusing. > > But spaces in filenames cause me *far more* headaches. They are the > greater evil. I LOVE spaces in filenames. I guess if you use the command line a lot and parse file arguments using spaces, its a bit irritating. But if you uses a GUI its no issue at all -- “It is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since...it is futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into, we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a power-directed system of thought.” Sir Roger Scruton
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 14:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1019n60.2rt.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #67289 |
On 2025-05-02, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 01/05/2025 14:42, Borax Man wrote: >> On 2025-05-01, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >>> On 4/30/25 6:00 AM, Borax Man wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:18:48 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As for your file example though, you do demonstrate why one may choose >>>>>> upper vs lower case, Windows does allow that. But should they be >>>>>> *seperate* files? >>>>> >>>>> It should be your choice. >>>>> >>>> Well, you get to choose the filesystem you use. JFS2 if I recall could >>>> be case insensitive, but i would play havoc with the OS if you used it >>>> in the wron place. In Windows, can you make it case sensitive? >>>> >>>>>> However, I agree with your comment about unicode. Treating upper and >>>>>> lower case letters as the same, leads to complicated rules, which may >>>>>> vary from system to system, and cause chaos. >>>>> >>>>> Unicode seems to have come up with some standard set of “default” rules >>>>> that are independent of any particular localization setting. >>>> >>>> These would need to be in a standard, one that filesystems can >>>> implement. But then filesystems would have to implement the same >>>> standard, otherwise, again issues arise. Can't see this being workable >>>> for end users. >>> >>> >>> So, in essence, the development of case-sensitive >>> systems ruined it for case-insensitive :-) >>> >>> Same now for space-tolerant file names. >> >> Case sensitivity does cause problems here and there, and it was >> initially confusing. >> >> But spaces in filenames cause me *far more* headaches. They are the >> greater evil. > > I LOVE spaces in filenames. > I guess if you use the command line a lot and parse file arguments using > spaces, its a bit irritating. > > But if you uses a GUI its no issue at all > Yes, I'm a command line kind of guy, and spaces are a bit of a PITA. Just have to remember to quote, but when you use shell expansions or globbing, and then things get a bit trickier.
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 20:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <681524e3$0$5192$426a34cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #67291 |
Le 02-05-2025, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> a écrit : > On 2025-05-02, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> I LOVE spaces in filenames. >> I guess if you use the command line a lot and parse file arguments using >> spaces, its a bit irritating. >> >> But if you uses a GUI its no issue at all > > Yes, I'm a command line kind of guy, and spaces are a bit of a PITA. > Just have to remember to quote, but when you use shell expansions or > globbing, and then things get a bit trickier. I don't see the difficulty with the spaces in my terminal. My bash manages very well the spaces when I'm using my TAB on files which have some spaces in their names. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 22:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jHbRP.19681$U3L2.12155@fx16.iad> |
| In reply to | #67297 |
On 2025-05-02, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote: > Le 02-05-2025, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> a écrit : > >> On 2025-05-02, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> I LOVE spaces in filenames. >>> I guess if you use the command line a lot and parse file arguments using >>> spaces, its a bit irritating. >>> >>> But if you uses a GUI its no issue at all >> >> Yes, I'm a command line kind of guy, and spaces are a bit of a PITA. >> Just have to remember to quote, but when you use shell expansions or >> globbing, and then things get a bit trickier. > > I don't see the difficulty with the spaces in my terminal. My bash > manages very well the spaces when I'm using my TAB on files which have > some spaces in their names. Generally I can deal with it, but I still have trouble with rsync. There's something to do with single quotes vs. double quotes that I haven't quite wrapped my head around yet. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 00:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vv3mjt$273hn$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #67300 |
On Fri, 02 May 2025 22:29:35 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > Generally I can deal with it, but I still have trouble with rsync. > There's something to do with single quotes vs. double quotes that I > haven't quite wrapped my head around yet. This is an issue with SSH (and possibly RSH before that as well). There needs to be an extra level of quoting when executing a command remotely by directly specifying it on the SSH command line, because you have a shell at the remote end, as well as the local end, being triggered by shell- special characters.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 19:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eyuRP.14993$9zYa.2024@fx13.iad> |
| In reply to | #67308 |
On 2025-05-03, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On Fri, 02 May 2025 22:29:35 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> Generally I can deal with it, but I still have trouble with rsync. >> There's something to do with single quotes vs. double quotes that I >> haven't quite wrapped my head around yet. > > This is an issue with SSH (and possibly RSH before that as well). There > needs to be an extra level of quoting when executing a command remotely by > directly specifying it on the SSH command line, because you have a shell > at the remote end, as well as the local end, being triggered by shell- > special characters. At about this point my eyes glaze over and I just zip the files I want to transfer into a file I call "new.zip", send that instead, and unzip it on the other end. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 03:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7lg7eFsk04U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #67300 |
On Fri, 02 May 2025 22:29:35 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > Generally I can deal with it, but I still have trouble with rsync. > There's something to do with single quotes vs. double quotes that I > haven't quite wrapped my head around yet. They are a general PITA. I really like those situations when you can have single quotes within a double quoted string or double quotes within a single quoted string and languages that play fast and loose like Python or JavaScript where you can use either -- most of the time.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 02:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <r9CcnY45qPvJLIj1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #67313 |
On 5/2/25 11:18 PM, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 02 May 2025 22:29:35 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> Generally I can deal with it, but I still have trouble with rsync. >> There's something to do with single quotes vs. double quotes that I >> haven't quite wrapped my head around yet. > > They are a general PITA. I really like those situations when you can have > single quotes within a double quoted string or double quotes within a > single quoted string and languages that play fast and loose like Python or > JavaScript where you can use either -- most of the time. NOTE that what you're advocating is More And More COMPLICATED ... work-arounds for work-arounds. Is THIS what we WANT ??? Is this GOOD ??? Yea, yea, SOME Linux/Unix people advocate super-complicated ... great for their egos. Super-twisted scripts and command sets. Sorry, NO ... shouldn't BE like that. Apologies, but this is sort of existential level stuff. Keep it sane and easily comprehensible OR ELSE. At SOME point Winders becomes preferable. Horror yes, but ...........
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 07:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7m0l1FjqjU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #67315 |
On Sat, 3 May 2025 02:02:05 -0400, c186282 wrote: > On 5/2/25 11:18 PM, rbowman wrote: >> On Fri, 02 May 2025 22:29:35 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> Generally I can deal with it, but I still have trouble with rsync. >>> There's something to do with single quotes vs. double quotes that I >>> haven't quite wrapped my head around yet. >> >> They are a general PITA. I really like those situations when you can >> have single quotes within a double quoted string or double quotes >> within a single quoted string and languages that play fast and loose >> like Python or JavaScript where you can use either -- most of the time. > > > NOTE that what you're advocating is More And More COMPLICATED ... > work-arounds for work-arounds. I wasn't aware I was advocating anything.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 11:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <vv4rjf$35qch$16@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #67297 |
On 02/05/2025 21:02, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 02-05-2025, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> a écrit : >> On 2025-05-02, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> I LOVE spaces in filenames. >>> I guess if you use the command line a lot and parse file arguments using >>> spaces, its a bit irritating. >>> >>> But if you uses a GUI its no issue at all >> >> Yes, I'm a command line kind of guy, and spaces are a bit of a PITA. >> Just have to remember to quote, but when you use shell expansions or >> globbing, and then things get a bit trickier. > > I don't see the difficulty with the spaces in my terminal. My bash > manages very well the spaces when I'm using my TAB on files which have > some spaces in their names. > Ditto. and a '\ ' is always a happy option -- “A leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader, who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say, “We did this ourselves.” ― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 21:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7kq80FouscU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #67291 |
On Fri, 2 May 2025 14:54:56 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: > Yes, I'm a command line kind of guy, and spaces are a bit of a PITA. > Just have to remember to quote, but when you use shell expansions or > globbing, and then things get a bit trickier. I'm not crazy about uppercase directories either. Desktop, Documents, Downloads and so forth feels like something that snuck* in from Windows. * 'sneaked' for the Brits and others who need regularity in their lives.
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 23:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn101an25.3om.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #67299 |
On 2025-05-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Fri, 2 May 2025 14:54:56 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: > >> Yes, I'm a command line kind of guy, and spaces are a bit of a PITA. >> Just have to remember to quote, but when you use shell expansions or >> globbing, and then things get a bit trickier. > > I'm not crazy about uppercase directories either. Desktop, Documents, > Downloads and so forth feels like something that snuck* in from Windows. > > * 'sneaked' for the Brits and others who need regularity in their lives. I do admit, I tend to do this a bit, as I like to capitalise nouns (I'm a capitalist, you see). But somtimes I think to myself, "why are you doing this?"
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-03 02:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7ldm4Fs8slU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #67304 |
On Fri, 2 May 2025 23:59:01 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: > On 2025-05-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 2 May 2025 14:54:56 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: >> >>> Yes, I'm a command line kind of guy, and spaces are a bit of a PITA. >>> Just have to remember to quote, but when you use shell expansions or >>> globbing, and then things get a bit trickier. >> >> I'm not crazy about uppercase directories either. Desktop, Documents, >> Downloads and so forth feels like something that snuck* in from >> Windows. >> >> * 'sneaked' for the Brits and others who need regularity in their >> lives. > > I do admit, I tend to do this a bit, as I like to capitalise nouns (I'm > a capitalist, you see). But somtimes I think to myself, "why are you > doing this?" My German is very rusty but I find it much more logical than English. If it's a noun, capitalize it. It is particularly helpful in these divisive times when you can get into a flame war over a capital.
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