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any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache

Started byRobert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net>
First post2024-07-02 04:19 +0000
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  any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-07-02 04:19 +0000
    Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-02 23:31 +0200
      Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-07-03 03:42 +0000
        Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-03 10:35 +0100
          Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-03 12:42 +0200
          Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-03 23:43 +0000
          Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-07-04 03:29 +0000
            Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-07-03 22:20 -0700
              Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-07-05 03:36 +0000
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-07-05 09:33 -0700
            Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-04 06:52 +0000
              Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-04 08:36 +0100
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-04 23:46 +0000
                  Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-07-05 03:37 +0000
        Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-07-03 13:33 +0000
          Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-03 14:30 +0000
            Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-04 02:46 +0200
              Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-07-05 19:52 +0000
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-06 05:22 +0000
                  Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-06 07:20 +0000
                    There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-07-06 22:58 +0000
                      Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 01:31 +0000
                        Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-07-07 03:25 +0000
                          Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 03:59 +0000
                            Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-07-07 04:03 +0000
                              Re: There he goes again Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-07 09:16 +0100
                              Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 22:00 +0000
                                Re: There he goes again "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-07-08 14:46 -0400
                                  Re: There he goes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-08 23:33 +0000
                                Re: There he goes again vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-07-08 02:10 +0000
                            Re: There he goes again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-08 02:54 +0200
                              Re: There he goes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-08 23:35 +0000
                                Re: There he goes again candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-09 02:10 +0000
                                  Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-09 03:27 +0000
                                    Re: There he goes again candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-10 13:40 +0000
                                      Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-10 18:57 +0000
                                        Re: There he goes again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-10 23:44 +0200
                                          Re: There he goes again candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-13 16:00 +0000
                                            Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-13 18:36 +0000
                                              Re: There he goes again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-13 22:34 +0200
                                              Re: There he goes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-14 01:39 +0000
                                                Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-14 04:28 +0000
                                                  Re: There he goes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-14 05:40 +0000
                                                    Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-14 07:30 +0000
                                                      Re: There he goes again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-07-14 16:46 +0000
                                                        Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-14 20:23 +0000
                                                          Re: There he goes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-15 01:22 +0000
                                                        Re: There he goes again Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-07-14 16:30 -0700
                                                          Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-15 05:19 +0000
                                                            Re: There he goes again "26yh.0712" <26yh.0713@e6t5y.net> - 2024-07-15 21:10 -0400
                                                              Re: There he goes again D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-16 11:18 +0200
                                                                Re: There he goes again not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-07-17 08:40 +1000
                                                                Re: There he goes again "26yh.0712" <26yh.0713@e6t5y.net> - 2024-07-17 02:08 -0400
                                                          Re: There he goes again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-07-15 16:43 +0000
                                                    Re: There he goes again candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-14 16:20 +0000
                                                      Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-14 20:22 +0000
                                                        Re: There he goes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-15 01:21 +0000
                                                          Re: There he goes again candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-15 16:30 +0000
                                                            Re: There he goes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-15 22:05 +0000
                                                  Re: There he goes again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-14 08:49 +0100
                                              Re: There he goes again candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-14 16:20 +0000
                                Re: There he goes again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-09 12:57 +0200
                                  Re: There he goes again "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-07-09 11:12 -0400
                                    Re: There he goes again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-12 21:09 +0200
                  Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-06 12:56 +0200
                    Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 01:33 +0000
                      Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-07 04:10 +0200
                        Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-07-07 02:43 +0000
                          Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 03:43 +0000
                        Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache marrgol <marrgol@address.invalid> - 2024-07-07 12:17 +0200
                          Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 22:09 +0000
                            Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache marrgol <marrgol@address.invalid> - 2024-07-08 01:59 +0200
                          Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-12 21:12 +0200
                            Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-07-12 19:26 +0000
                              Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-12 23:10 +0200
                              Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2024-07-13 19:14 -0400
                              Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-14 02:21 +0000
                  Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-07-06 14:10 +0100
                    Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-06 16:34 +0200
                      Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-07-06 16:20 +0100
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-06 07:19 +0000

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#56703 — There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache)

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2024-07-06 22:58 +0000
SubjectThere he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache)
Message-ID<v6ci5t$oq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#56682
On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 07:20:11 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6ar7b$3ngh6$2@dont-email.me>:

> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 05:22:33 -0000 (UTC), Jack Strangio wrote:
> 
>> I'm looking at you GTK with your /tmp/gtk_errs that might end up being
>> owned by root ...
> 
> How can that happen, unless you’ve been running GUI programs as root?

His example was gparted...which you helpfully snipped, of course.

How would you _not_ run gparted as root, Perfessor?

-- 
-v

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#56710 — Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache)

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-07-07 01:31 +0000
SubjectRe: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache)
Message-ID<v6cr5s$1kfb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#56703
On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:58:05 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

> How would you _not_ run gparted as root, Perfessor?

From the OP:

   m70t [jvs] /home/jvs > gparted
   bash: /tmp/gtk_errs: Permission denied

That’s not running as root now, is it?

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#56715 — Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache)

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2024-07-07 03:25 +0000
SubjectRe: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache)
Message-ID<leug5rFgsj3U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56710
On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:31:41 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6cr5s$1kfb$1@dont-email.me>:

> On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:58:05 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
> 
>> How would you _not_ run gparted as root, Perfessor?
> 
> From the OP:
> 
>    m70t [jvs] /home/jvs > gparted
>    bash: /tmp/gtk_errs: Permission denied
> 
> That’s not running as root now, is it?

Yes, and that's the problem.

GPARTED(8)               GParted Manual              GPARTED(8)

NAME
       gparted  -  GNOME Partition Editor for manipulating disk
       partitions.

SYNOPSIS
       gparted [device]...

DESCRIPTION
       The gparted application is the  GNOME  partition  editor
       for  creating,  reorganizing,  and  deleting disk parti‐
       tions.
 _ _ _ _ _ _ _

I don't know of many distributions set up to edit disk partitions
without running as root -- though it is possible, it's not very
likely.

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#56718 — Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache)

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-07-07 03:59 +0000
SubjectRe: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache)
Message-ID<v6d3qp$6ida$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#56715
On 7 Jul 2024 03:25:47 GMT, vallor wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:31:41 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6cr5s$1kfb$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> That’s not running as root now, is it?
> 
> Yes, and that's the problem.

Maybe think of GParted as Nature’s way of telling you not to run GUI tools 
as root.

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#56719 — Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache)

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2024-07-07 04:03 +0000
SubjectRe: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache)
Message-ID<leuictFjmlhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56718
On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 03:59:21 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6d3qp$6ida$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 7 Jul 2024 03:25:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:31:41 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6cr5s$1kfb$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> That’s not running as root now, is it?
>> 
>> Yes, and that's the problem.
> 
> Maybe think of GParted as Nature’s way of telling you not to run GUI tools 
> as root.

Okay, I'll bite -- how do you modify partition tables without running
as root?

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   OS: Linux 5.15.0-113-lowlatency Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 15.9G
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#56725 — Re: There he goes again

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2024-07-07 09:16 +0100
SubjectRe: There he goes again
Message-ID<v6disf$8pha$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#56719
On 2024-07-07, vallor wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 03:59:21 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6d3qp$6ida$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> On 7 Jul 2024 03:25:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:31:41 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6cr5s$1kfb$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>> That’s not running as root now, is it?
>>> 
>>> Yes, and that's the problem.
>> 
>> Maybe think of GParted as Nature’s way of telling you not to run GUI tools 
>> as root.
>
> Okay, I'll bite -- how do you modify partition tables without running
> as root?

By having write access to the device?

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#56776 — Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache)

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-07-07 22:00 +0000
SubjectRe: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache)
Message-ID<v6f35v$gmj7$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#56719
On 7 Jul 2024 04:03:41 GMT, vallor wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 03:59:21 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6d3qp$6ida$1@dont-email.me>:
> 
>> On 7 Jul 2024 03:25:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:31:41 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6cr5s$1kfb$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>> That’s not running as root now, is it?
>>> 
>>> Yes, and that's the problem.
>> 
>> Maybe think of GParted as Nature’s way of telling you not to run GUI tools 
>> as root.
> 
> Okay, I'll bite -- how do you modify partition tables without running
> as root?

Obviously it’s the “GUI tools” part that’s the problem, not the “root” part.

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#56808 — Re: There he goes again

From"David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2024-07-08 14:46 -0400
SubjectRe: There he goes again
Message-ID<op.2qls34exa3w0dxdave@hodgins.homeip.net>
In reply to#56776
On Sun, 07 Jul 2024 22:10:42 -0400, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> So you don't think there should be GUI tools to manage disk
> partitions, filesystems, and indeed, anything managed
> with uid 0?  Really?
>
> Sounds elitist.

The command line tools work just as well. Avoiding gui applications when
running as root reduces the risk of malware by reducing the attack surface.

Specifically it protects against supply chain attacks that succeeds in planting
malware in gtk or qt.

Whether it's appropriate or not depends on your security needs.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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#56831 — Re: There he goes again

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-07-08 23:33 +0000
SubjectRe: There he goes again
Message-ID<v6hsvm$12f54$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#56808
On Mon, 08 Jul 2024 14:46:42 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:

> The command line tools work just as well.

fdisk for setting up disk partitions, plus of course mkfs for actually 
initializing filesystems. And rsync for robust bulk-copying of files.

Tip: download a copy of the latest SystemRescue
<https://www.system-rescue.org/> and keep it on a handy USB stick. A 
friend, whom I had previously set up with a Linux Mint installation on his 
new MSI Cubi 5, came back complaining that it wasn’t booting any more. 
From his description, it sounded like it had run out of disk space.

I booted it up with SystemRescue, and quickly discovered that, while there 
was still plenty of room on the main part of the terabyte SSD allocated 
to /home, the root partition (60GB or so) had been completely filled up 
with snapshots from some Time Machine type backup utility--I forget the 
exact name. It was easy enough to dump them all. If he wants to use that 
app again, I hope it has an option to choose a more sensible place to keep 
its backups.

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#56813 — Re: There he goes again

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2024-07-08 02:10 +0000
SubjectRe: There he goes again
Message-ID<lf1052FudliU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56776
On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 22:00:31 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6f35v$gmj7$2@dont-email.me>:

> On 7 Jul 2024 04:03:41 GMT, vallor wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 03:59:21 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6d3qp$6ida$1@dont-email.me>:
>> 
>>> On 7 Jul 2024 03:25:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:31:41 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6cr5s$1kfb$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>
>>>>> That’s not running as root now, is it?
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, and that's the problem.
>>> 
>>> Maybe think of GParted as Nature’s way of telling you not to run GUI
>>> tools as root.
>> 
>> Okay, I'll bite -- how do you modify partition tables without running
>> as root?
> 
> Obviously it’s the “GUI tools” part that’s the problem, not the “root”
> part.

So you don't think there should be GUI tools to manage disk
partitions, filesystems, and indeed, anything managed
with uid 0?  Really?

Sounds elitist.

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#56807 — Re: There he goes again

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2024-07-08 02:54 +0200
SubjectRe: There he goes again
Message-ID<lf0rmsFmm0pU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56718
On 2024-07-07 05:59, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On 7 Jul 2024 03:25:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:31:41 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6cr5s$1kfb$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> That’s not running as root now, is it?
>>
>> Yes, and that's the problem.
> 
> Maybe think of GParted as Nature’s way of telling you not to run GUI tools
> as root.

gparted is a GUI tool intended to be run as root.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.

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#56832 — Re: There he goes again

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-07-08 23:35 +0000
SubjectRe: There he goes again
Message-ID<v6ht4l$12f54$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#56807
On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 02:54:52 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2024-07-07 05:59, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On 7 Jul 2024 03:25:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:31:41 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6cr5s$1kfb$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>> That’s not running as root now, is it?
>>>
>>> Yes, and that's the problem.
>> 
>> Maybe think of GParted as Nature’s way of telling you not to run GUI
>> tools as root.
> 
> gparted is a GUI tool intended to be run as root.

And we have seen what happens when it is.

Some decades ago there was a devilish little gadget, shaped exactly like a 
legitimate electrical plug, with a sign on it that said “The Little Wonder 
Fuse-Blower: Insert In Electrical Socket And PRESS!”.

Funny how many people did exactly that ...

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#56843 — Re: There he goes again

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2024-07-09 02:10 +0000
SubjectRe: There he goes again
Message-ID<slrnv8p1p9.4ef.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#56832
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 23:35 this Monday (GMT):
> On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 02:54:52 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> On 2024-07-07 05:59, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On 7 Jul 2024 03:25:47 GMT, vallor wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:31:41 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v6cr5s$1kfb$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>
>>>>> That’s not running as root now, is it?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, and that's the problem.
>>> 
>>> Maybe think of GParted as Nature’s way of telling you not to run GUI
>>> tools as root.
>> 
>> gparted is a GUI tool intended to be run as root.
>
> And we have seen what happens when it is.
>
> Some decades ago there was a devilish little gadget, shaped exactly like a 
> legitimate electrical plug, with a sign on it that said “The Little Wonder 
> Fuse-Blower: Insert In Electrical Socket And PRESS!”.
>
> Funny how many people did exactly that ...


Well, curiosity killing the cat and all.
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#56844 — Re: There he goes again

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2024-07-09 03:27 +0000
SubjectRe: There he goes again
Message-ID<lf3p0dFd7obU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56843
On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 02:10:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> Well, curiosity killing the cat and all.

Leaving a thumb drive laying on the sidewalk or a parking lot is a good 
gag too. Some people just have to see what's on it. 

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#56878 — Re: There he goes again

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2024-07-10 13:40 +0000
SubjectRe: There he goes again
Message-ID<slrnv8t383.2rf6.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#56844
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 03:27 this Tuesday (GMT):
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 02:10:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> Well, curiosity killing the cat and all.
>
> Leaving a thumb drive laying on the sidewalk or a parking lot is a good 
> gag too. Some people just have to see what's on it. 


Have you ever done that?
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#56885 — Re: There he goes again

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2024-07-10 18:57 +0000
SubjectRe: There he goes again
Message-ID<lf83t6F2jubU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56878
On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 13:40:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 03:27 this Tuesday (GMT):
>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 02:10:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>>> Well, curiosity killing the cat and all.
>>
>> Leaving a thumb drive laying on the sidewalk or a parking lot is a good
>> gag too. Some people just have to see what's on it.
> 
> 
> Have you ever done that?

Loaded an unknown drive? Nope. I was even skeptical about using a drive 
still in the plastic packaging that our company used as a gimme at shows.

It's a popular technique. There was a suspicion that Israel fucked up the 
air-gapped Iranian centrifuges that way. 

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#56887 — Re: There he goes again

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2024-07-10 23:44 +0200
SubjectRe: There he goes again
Message-ID<lf8dm1F3j7qU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56885
On 2024-07-10 20:57, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 13:40:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
> 
>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 03:27 this Tuesday (GMT):
>>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 02:10:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, curiosity killing the cat and all.
>>>
>>> Leaving a thumb drive laying on the sidewalk or a parking lot is a good
>>> gag too. Some people just have to see what's on it.
>>
>>
>> Have you ever done that?
> 
> Loaded an unknown drive? Nope. I was even skeptical about using a drive
> still in the plastic packaging that our company used as a gimme at shows.
> 
> It's a popular technique. There was a suspicion that Israel fucked up the
> air-gapped Iranian centrifuges that way.

In some cities you can find usb sticks inserted in the mortar of a wall. 
Kind of similar to books hidden in a tree hole.

I once found a stick in a rental flat. I did loo inside, to phone the 
people who had just left the flat if it was important. Turned out it was 
simply a damaged stick, worked for a while.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.

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#56915 — Re: There he goes again

Fromcandycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Date2024-07-13 16:00 +0000
SubjectRe: There he goes again
Message-ID<slrnv958hb.3tc.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
In reply to#56887
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote at 21:44 this Wednesday (GMT):
> On 2024-07-10 20:57, rbowman wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 13:40:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>> 
>>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 03:27 this Tuesday (GMT):
>>>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 02:10:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, curiosity killing the cat and all.
>>>>
>>>> Leaving a thumb drive laying on the sidewalk or a parking lot is a good
>>>> gag too. Some people just have to see what's on it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you ever done that?
>> 
>> Loaded an unknown drive? Nope. I was even skeptical about using a drive
>> still in the plastic packaging that our company used as a gimme at shows.

Good, stay safe ^^

>> It's a popular technique. There was a suspicion that Israel fucked up the
>> air-gapped Iranian centrifuges that way.
>
> In some cities you can find usb sticks inserted in the mortar of a wall. 
> Kind of similar to books hidden in a tree hole.
>
> I once found a stick in a rental flat. I did loo inside, to phone the 
> people who had just left the flat if it was important. Turned out it was 
> simply a damaged stick, worked for a while.


I've never seen one of those in person but I have seen a couple pictures
of those online.
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#56924 — Re: There he goes again

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2024-07-13 18:36 +0000
SubjectRe: There he goes again
Message-ID<lffvq3F8h1fU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#56915
On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 16:00:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

>> In some cities you can find usb sticks inserted in the mortar of a
>> wall.
>> Kind of similar to books hidden in a tree hole.
>>
>> I once found a stick in a rental flat. I did loo inside, to phone the
>> people who had just left the flat if it was important. Turned out it
>> was simply a damaged stick, worked for a while.
> 
> 
> I've never seen one of those in person but I have seen a couple pictures
> of those online.

A USB flash drive, aka memory stick, aka thumb drive?

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#56926 — Re: There he goes again

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2024-07-13 22:34 +0200
SubjectRe: There he goes again
Message-ID<uv4bmkxqo1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#56924
On 2024-07-13 20:36, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 16:00:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
> 
>>> In some cities you can find usb sticks inserted in the mortar of a
>>> wall.
>>> Kind of similar to books hidden in a tree hole.
>>>
>>> I once found a stick in a rental flat. I did loo inside, to phone the
>>> people who had just left the flat if it was important. Turned out it
>>> was simply a damaged stick, worked for a while.
>>
>>
>> I've never seen one of those in person but I have seen a couple pictures
>> of those online.
> 
> A USB flash drive, aka memory stick, aka thumb drive?

Yep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_dead_drop


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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