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Redundancy/Survival

Started byc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
First post2026-05-26 02:21 -0400
Last post2026-05-26 17:21 +0200
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  Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 02:21 -0400
    Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 08:46 +0200
      Re: Redundancy/Survival Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-05-26 09:49 +0200
        Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 04:47 -0400
        Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 11:25 +0200
        Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-26 09:53 +0000
      Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 04:38 -0400
        Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 11:35 +0200
        Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-26 22:09 +0000
          Re: Redundancy/Survival John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 16:17 -0700
            Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-27 00:02 +0000
              Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-27 00:11 -0400
                Re: Redundancy/Survival Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-05-28 10:32 +0200
              Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-27 08:41 +0100
                Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-27 11:04 +0200
                  Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:31 -0400
                    Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 09:18 +0100
                    Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-28 13:42 +0200
                      Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 15:01 +0100
                      Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 21:34 -0400
                        Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 11:07 +0100
                        Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-29 12:55 +0200
                          Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 12:14 +0100
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-29 13:36 +0200
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 13:26 +0100
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-29 19:36 +0200
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 17:24 +0100
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-29 19:37 +0200
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 19:36 +0100
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 22:34 +0100
                          Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-30 04:29 -0400
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-30 13:09 +0200
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-30 23:29 -0400
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-05-31 21:45 -0400
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:15 +0200
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-01 18:53 -0400
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-02 01:46 +0000
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 03:01 -0400
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:12 +0000
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:16 +0200
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:09 +0000
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 21:26 +0200
                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:48 +0100
                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:35 +0000
                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 17:25 +0100
                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-04 03:51 +0000
                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-04 04:30 +0000
                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:34 +0100
                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 16:06 +0100
                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 20:20 +0200
                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 18:27 +0000
                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:30 +0100
                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 19:24 +0200
                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 20:04 +0100
                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 22:25 +0200
                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-04 04:15 +0000
                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 07:36 +0200
                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 02:19 -0400
                                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 08:34 +0200
                                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 10:26 -0400
                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-04 08:18 +0100
                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:48 +0100
                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 10:36 -0400
                                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 17:58 +0000
                                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 14:56 -0400
                                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 22:07 +0000
                                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 22:18 -0400
                                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 03:40 +0000
                                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 00:29 -0400
                                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 07:06 +0000
                                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 04:11 -0400
                                                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 17:17 +0000
                                                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 00:10 -0400
                                                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:16 +0000
                                                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 01:46 -0400
                                                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 19:40 +0000
                                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 00:13 +0000
                                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-05 03:12 +0000
                                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 00:15 -0400
                                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-07 13:25 +0000
                                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-07 19:54 +0200
                                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:37 +0000
                                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-07 19:18 +0000
                                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:42 +0000
                                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 04:26 +0000
                                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-06 03:10 +0000
                                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:41 +0000
                                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 01:52 -0400
                                                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 20:03 +0000
                                                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-07 03:16 +0000
                                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 11:47 +0200
                                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-07 03:20 +0000
                                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 04:59 -0400
                                                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-07 19:27 +0000
                                                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:50 +0000
                                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 23:38 -0400
                                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 06:48 +0000
                                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 03:05 -0400
                                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:52 +0000
                                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:21 +0000
                                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 00:36 -0400
                                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:51 +0000
                                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 02:26 -0400
                                                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 20:12 +0000
                                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-07 03:11 +0000
                                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 03:51 +0000
                                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 01:47 -0400
                                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:21 +0000
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 02:58 -0400
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 11:11 +0100
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 22:15 -0400
                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 22:32 -0400
                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 02:33 -0400
                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:57 +0100
                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:40 +0000
                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:31 +0100
                    Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-29 04:30 +0000
                      Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 01:34 -0400
                        Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 06:36 +0000
                          Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 00:38 -0400
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 05:09 +0000
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 03:10 -0400
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 07:14 +0000
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-01 00:49 -0400
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-01 04:57 +0000
                        Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 03:20 +0000
                          Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 19:45 +0200
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 18:30 +0000
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:27 +0200
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 10:49 +0000
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 13:16 +0200
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 00:00 -0400
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:43 +0000
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:35 +0000
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:21 +0000
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 18:25 +0000
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 21:36 +0200
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:06 +0000
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:32 +0200
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:43 +0100
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 13:05 +0200
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:14 +0100
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:31 +0100
                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:43 +0100
                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 19:28 +0200
                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 20:10 +0100
                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-03 18:00 +0000
                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 22:27 +0200
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:13 +0100
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:48 +0000
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-03 18:58 +0000
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:46 +0000
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-01 19:00 -0400
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-02 17:44 +0000
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 17:54 +0000
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 16:57 -0400
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 21:02 +0000
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:41 +0200
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:13 +0000
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:47 +0200
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 01:01 +0100
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-03 21:18 -0400
                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-04 04:30 +0000
                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 18:02 +0000
                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 07:44 +0200
                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:48 +0100
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 00:26 -0400
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 07:53 +0200
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:49 +0100
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 01:03 -0400
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 10:07 +0100
                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 10:57 -0400
                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 16:31 +0100
                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 12:08 -0400
                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-05 11:34 +0100
                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 22:31 -0400
                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:48 +0000
                                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 01:56 -0400
                                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 19:56 +0000
                                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 05:40 -0400
                                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-07 19:25 +0000
                                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-07 20:37 +0100
                                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-08 00:57 +0000
                                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 00:23 -0400
                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-08 01:00 +0000
                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 00:38 -0400
                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 18:13 +0000
                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 15:03 -0400
                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-04 22:27 +0000
                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 22:45 -0400
                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 04:42 +0000
                                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 02:01 -0400
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:10 +0000
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 22:29 -0400
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:52 +0200
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-04 19:18 +0000
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 21:28 +0200
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-03 18:00 +0000
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-06-05 03:14 +0000
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 00:25 -0400
                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-05 07:20 +0000
                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 04:15 -0400
                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-05 12:33 +0200
                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-05 11:55 +0100
                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:21 +0000
                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-05 22:01 +0200
                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 22:15 -0400
                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 05:53 +0000
                                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 12:01 +0200
                                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 05:08 -0400
                                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-07 20:40 +0000
                                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-08 00:44 +0000
                                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-07 23:06 -0400
                                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 04:36 +0000
                                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 00:43 -0400
                                            Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-05 19:21 +0000
                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 00:23 +0000
                                                Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-06 18:52 +0000
                                              Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 00:43 -0400
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:49 +0200
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 00:30 -0400
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 07:55 +0200
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 09:51 +0100
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 11:56 +0100
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-03 18:00 +0000
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 02:11 -0400
                      Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 02:17 -0400
                        Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 03:50 +0000
                          Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-01 01:07 -0400
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:47 +0200
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 17:36 +0000
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:33 +0200
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:25 +0000
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 02:12 -0400
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:03 +0200
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:06 +0100
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 00:46 -0400
                                          Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 08:09 +0200
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:02 +0100
                                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-03 18:00 +0000
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 22:31 +0200
                                        Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 01:36 -0400
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:26 +0100
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 17:31 +0000
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:49 +0200
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:37 +0000
                      Re: Redundancy/Survival not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-30 09:09 +1000
                        Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-30 13:17 +0200
                          Re: Redundancy/Survival not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-31 07:33 +1000
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 00:14 -0400
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-31 12:09 +0100
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-01 00:51 -0400
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:28 +0100
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-31 12:58 +0200
                Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-27 20:51 +0000
                  Re: Redundancy/Survival John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-27 14:02 -0700
                    Re: Redundancy/Survival not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-28 08:54 +1000
                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-28 05:04 +0000
                    Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:54 -0400
                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-05-28 09:15 +0100
                        Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 12:29 +0000
                      Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-28 13:45 +0200
                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-05-29 02:50 +0000
                        Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 01:17 -0400
                          Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 06:48 +0000
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-30 04:25 -0400
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-30 13:20 +0200
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-05-30 14:16 +0000
                          Re: Redundancy/Survival Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-05-30 04:00 +0000
            Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 23:41 -0400
              Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-27 14:09 +0100
                Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:51 -0400
                  Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-28 17:08 +0000
                    Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 22:14 -0400
                      Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 04:41 +0000
                        Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 01:53 -0400
                          Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 06:32 +0000
                        Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 13:19 +0000
                          Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:52 +0200
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:46 +0000
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-03 00:27 -0400
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 03:26 -0400
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-03 21:30 -0400
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-04 04:30 +0000
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-04 08:13 +0200
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 03:03 -0400
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:12 +0200
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:08 +0100
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:33 +0100
                                    Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-03 14:45 +0100
                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 13:08 +0000
                        Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 22:55 +0200
                          Re: Redundancy/Survival Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:39 +0100
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 13:21 +0200
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-03 02:57 +0000
          Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 22:39 -0400
            Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-27 14:10 +0100
              Re: Redundancy/Survival not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-28 09:05 +1000
                Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 08:19 +0100
              Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 03:52 -0400
                Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 09:20 +0100
                  Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-28 20:34 -0400
                    Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-05-28 21:07 -0400
                      Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 13:40 +0000
                        Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-01 19:12 -0400
                          Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:28 +0200
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 12:15 -0400
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 16:19 +0000
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:30 +0200
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:29 +0100
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 16:49 -0400
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-03 12:18 +0200
                          Re: Redundancy/Survival Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-06-02 17:38 +0200
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 15:48 +0000
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 00:39 -0400
                            Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 17:55 +0200
                              Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 16:03 +0000
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> - 2026-06-02 12:22 -0400
                                  Re: Redundancy/Survival TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 16:36 +0000
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-02 18:39 +0200
                                Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-03 00:48 -0400
                    Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 01:21 +0000
                      Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 02:08 -0400
                        Re: Redundancy/Survival rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 06:41 +0000
                Re: Redundancy/Survival Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-01 13:23 +0000
                  Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-01 23:00 +0200
    Re: Redundancy/Survival Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-05-26 09:44 +0200
      Re: Redundancy/Survival c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-26 04:45 -0400
      Re: Redundancy/Survival "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 11:38 +0200
    Re: Redundancy/Survival "Worst Case" <fritz@spamexpire-202605.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2026-05-26 17:21 +0200

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#87543

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-05 07:20 +0000
Message-ID<n8fbmiFl49dU8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87531
On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw 'em in
>    the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and such ....

When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They were good 
for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones were 
even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they had two 
screw terminals.

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#87545

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-05 04:15 -0400
Message-ID<bKmcnaCEqMMyGL_3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87543
On 6/5/26 03:20, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw 'em in
>>     the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and such ....
> 
> When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They were good
> for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones were
> even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they had two
> screw terminals.

   Heh heh - did the SAME thing !!!  :-)

   You can get carbon rods at a welding supply store.

   There USED to be some for arc-lamp movie projectors
   but I doubt any of those exist anymore. An old friend
   used to work at a creaky Drive-In theater.

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#87549

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-06-05 12:33 +0200
Message-ID<g8lafmxpdm.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#87545
On 2026-06-05 10:15, c186282 wrote:
> On 6/5/26 03:20, rbowman wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>>     Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw 
>>> 'em in
>>>     the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and such ....
>>
>> When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They were 
>> good
>> for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones were
>> even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they had two
>> screw terminals.
> 
>    Heh heh - did the SAME thing !!!  :-)
> 
>    You can get carbon rods at a welding supply store.
> 
>    There USED to be some for arc-lamp movie projectors
>    but I doubt any of those exist anymore. An old friend
>    used to work at a creaky Drive-In theater.

I worked with those in the 80's, in a university cine-club. A nucleus of 
carbon and minerals in layers, then an outside layer of copper. About 65 
Amps. Blinding white light!

I think I have a sample as memsake.

(dictionary says "memsake" is bad spelling. What is the correct one?)

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87550

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2026-06-05 11:55 +0100
Message-ID<n8fo87Fotr8U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87549
"Carlos E.R." wrote:

> I think I have a sample as memsake.
> (dictionary says "memsake" is bad spelling. What is the correct one?)

keepsake, or memento.

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#87557

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-06-05 19:21 +0000
Message-ID<dlFUR.38655$SHu9.16505@fx45.iad>
In reply to#87549
On 2026-06-05, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> On 2026-06-05 10:15, c186282 wrote:
>
>>    You can get carbon rods at a welding supply store.
>> 
>>    There USED to be some for arc-lamp movie projectors
>>    but I doubt any of those exist anymore. An old friend
>>    used to work at a creaky Drive-In theater.
>
> I worked with those in the 80's, in a university cine-club. A nucleus of 
> carbon and minerals in layers, then an outside layer of copper. About 65 
> Amps. Blinding white light!
>
> I think I have a sample as memsake.
>
> (dictionary says "memsake" is bad spelling. What is the correct one?)

Around here the equivalent word is "keepsake".

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#87560

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-06-05 22:01 +0200
Message-ID<vhmbfmxq79.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#87557
On 2026-06-05 21:21, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-06-05, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-06-05 10:15, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>>     You can get carbon rods at a welding supply store.
>>>
>>>     There USED to be some for arc-lamp movie projectors
>>>     but I doubt any of those exist anymore. An old friend
>>>     used to work at a creaky Drive-In theater.
>>
>> I worked with those in the 80's, in a university cine-club. A nucleus of
>> carbon and minerals in layers, then an outside layer of copper. About 65
>> Amps. Blinding white light!
>>
>> I think I have a sample as memsake.
>>
>> (dictionary says "memsake" is bad spelling. What is the correct one?)
> 
> Around here the equivalent word is "keepsake".

I must have mixed it up.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87562

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-05 22:15 -0400
Message-ID<1eCcnWjfKdNOH773nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87549
On 6/5/26 06:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-06-05 10:15, c186282 wrote:
>> On 6/5/26 03:20, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw 
>>>> 'em in
>>>>     the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and such ....
>>>
>>> When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They were 
>>> good
>>> for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones were
>>> even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they had 
>>> two
>>> screw terminals.
>>
>>    Heh heh - did the SAME thing !!!  :-)
>>
>>    You can get carbon rods at a welding supply store.
>>
>>    There USED to be some for arc-lamp movie projectors
>>    but I doubt any of those exist anymore. An old friend
>>    used to work at a creaky Drive-In theater.
> 
> I worked with those in the 80's, in a university cine-club. A nucleus of 
> carbon and minerals in layers, then an outside layer of copper. About 65 
> Amps. Blinding white light!
> 
> I think I have a sample as memsake.
> 
> (dictionary says "memsake" is bad spelling. What is the correct one?)


   "Memsake" - sounds Japanese  :-)

   Anyway, exactly the item. The thin copper kept oxygen
   from getting to anything but the working ends. It'd
   slowly vaporize once the REALLY hot bit progressed
   along.

   It was a dirty projection booth.

   But few were really there to watch the movie.

   Ah :

https://www.amazon.com/PATIKIL-6mmx305mm-Gouging-Graphite-Electrode/dp/B0CZQZSY7H/ref=sr_1_6?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JFxjn5HyTd-WqpfBkk9aE5geO5ZyIwsklySCEhYt97bk2CyL5c8RULOSHI02VqgxMyC9uzGEyi9ieMm-3cipxM8iCXTbzGfP7Ret14GG8P4v4Skl8F6Nxfr-4ilEvx9C9J3djfmYN9j2PMeaU9tbYEnnuG3PBbBfIiIPOswQFZs0W4Sxs9P6WecX7JcTWyLyalmSTozbZkfU_TI26LxlYZBuJSsT_d7N4HCOEBQoxMATjZ3635cWVT7QzHhuXiMsDaQuw3TxGpBf7Qz8xUNJexASOLd-bKre2LxHiZ_s4ug.bAr4bg-jVSEc2ZuUjEAKDo_G4iy_Bv2OI7Ks59V28gk&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+carbon+rod&qid=1780710711&sr=8-6

   Also another kind with a more square profile.

   My Dad briefly had a job as a projectionist in the
   early 30s - arc lamps and often NITRATE film. There's
   a reason those old projection booths were built like
   a pill-box.

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#87577

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-06 05:53 +0000
Message-ID<n8hqu7F1g5uU8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87562
On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 22:15:46 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    "Memsake" - sounds Japanese

Or memsahib.

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#87600

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-06-06 12:01 +0200
Message-ID<1p7dfmxig7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#87562
{Note Followups-To} ==== means ====> do not post on comp.os.linux.misc

On 2026-06-06 04:15, c186282 wrote:
> On 6/5/26 06:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-06-05 10:15, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 6/5/26 03:20, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>     Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw 
>>>>> 'em in
>>>>>     the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and 
>>>>> such ....
>>>>
>>>> When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They 
>>>> were good
>>>> for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones 
>>>> were
>>>> even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they 
>>>> had two
>>>> screw terminals.
>>>
>>>    Heh heh - did the SAME thing !!!  :-)
>>>
>>>    You can get carbon rods at a welding supply store.
>>>
>>>    There USED to be some for arc-lamp movie projectors
>>>    but I doubt any of those exist anymore. An old friend
>>>    used to work at a creaky Drive-In theater.
>>
>> I worked with those in the 80's, in a university cine-club. A nucleus 
>> of carbon and minerals in layers, then an outside layer of copper. 
>> About 65 Amps. Blinding white light!
>>
>> I think I have a sample as memsake.
>>
>> (dictionary says "memsake" is bad spelling. What is the correct one?)
> 
> 
>    "Memsake" - sounds Japanese  :-)
> 
>    Anyway, exactly the item. The thin copper kept oxygen
>    from getting to anything but the working ends. It'd
>    slowly vaporize once the REALLY hot bit progressed
>    along.
> 
>    It was a dirty projection booth.

We had an exhaust tube going up the roof.

> 
>    But few were really there to watch the movie.
> 
>    Ah :
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/PATIKIL-6mmx305mm-Gouging-Graphite-Electrode/dp/ 
> B0CZQZSY7H/ref=sr_1_6?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JFxjn5HyTd- 
> WqpfBkk9aE5geO5ZyIwsklySCEhYt97bk2CyL5c8RULOSHI02VqgxMyC9uzGEyi9ieMm-3cipxM8iCXTbzGfP7Ret14GG8P4v4Skl8F6Nxfr-4ilEvx9C9J3djfmYN9j2PMeaU9tbYEnnuG3PBbBfIiIPOswQFZs0W4Sxs9P6WecX7JcTWyLyalmSTozbZkfU_TI26LxlYZBuJSsT_d7N4HCOEBQoxMATjZ3635cWVT7QzHhuXiMsDaQuw3TxGpBf7Qz8xUNJexASOLd-bKre2LxHiZ_s4ug.bAr4bg-jVSEc2ZuUjEAKDo_G4iy_Bv2OI7Ks59V28gk&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+carbon+rod&qid=1780710711&sr=8-6

Amazing! They still sell them.

Ah, trick. With Amazon links, you can delete everyhing after the /dp/number.

https://www.amazon.com/PATIKIL-6mmx305mm-Gouging-Graphite-Electrode/dp/ 
B0CZQZSY7H

Then, you can also remove the name:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/ B0CZQZSY7H

The rest, is tracking information about you.

> 
>    Also another kind with a more square profile.
> 
>    My Dad briefly had a job as a projectionist in the
>    early 30s - arc lamps and often NITRATE film. There's
>    a reason those old projection booths were built like
>    a pill-box.
> 

Those could catch instant fire.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87639

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-07 05:08 -0400
Message-ID<cfycnaNCx9S3qLj3nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87600
On 6/6/26 06:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
> {Note Followups-To} ==== means ====> do not post on comp.os.linux.misc
> 
> On 2026-06-06 04:15, c186282 wrote:
>> On 6/5/26 06:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-06-05 10:15, c186282 wrote:
>>>> On 6/5/26 03:20, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw 
>>>>>> 'em in
>>>>>>     the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and 
>>>>>> such ....
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They 
>>>>> were good
>>>>> for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones 
>>>>> were
>>>>> even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they 
>>>>> had two
>>>>> screw terminals.
>>>>
>>>>    Heh heh - did the SAME thing !!!  :-)
>>>>
>>>>    You can get carbon rods at a welding supply store.
>>>>
>>>>    There USED to be some for arc-lamp movie projectors
>>>>    but I doubt any of those exist anymore. An old friend
>>>>    used to work at a creaky Drive-In theater.
>>>
>>> I worked with those in the 80's, in a university cine-club. A nucleus 
>>> of carbon and minerals in layers, then an outside layer of copper. 
>>> About 65 Amps. Blinding white light!
>>>
>>> I think I have a sample as memsake.
>>>
>>> (dictionary says "memsake" is bad spelling. What is the correct one?)
>>
>>
>>    "Memsake" - sounds Japanese  :-)
>>
>>    Anyway, exactly the item. The thin copper kept oxygen
>>    from getting to anything but the working ends. It'd
>>    slowly vaporize once the REALLY hot bit progressed
>>    along.
>>
>>    It was a dirty projection booth.
> 
> We had an exhaust tube going up the roof.
> 
>>
>>    But few were really there to watch the movie.
>>
>>    Ah :
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/PATIKIL-6mmx305mm-Gouging-Graphite-Electrode/ 
>> dp/ B0CZQZSY7H/ref=sr_1_6?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JFxjn5HyTd- 
>> WqpfBkk9aE5geO5ZyIwsklySCEhYt97bk2CyL5c8RULOSHI02VqgxMyC9uzGEyi9ieMm-3cipxM8iCXTbzGfP7Ret14GG8P4v4Skl8F6Nxfr-4ilEvx9C9J3djfmYN9j2PMeaU9tbYEnnuG3PBbBfIiIPOswQFZs0W4Sxs9P6WecX7JcTWyLyalmSTozbZkfU_TI26LxlYZBuJSsT_d7N4HCOEBQoxMATjZ3635cWVT7QzHhuXiMsDaQuw3TxGpBf7Qz8xUNJexASOLd-bKre2LxHiZ_s4ug.bAr4bg-jVSEc2ZuUjEAKDo_G4iy_Bv2OI7Ks59V28gk&dib_tag=se&keywords=welding+carbon+rod&qid=1780710711&sr=8-6
> 
> Amazing! They still sell them.
> 
> Ah, trick. With Amazon links, you can delete everyhing after the /dp/ 
> number.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/PATIKIL-6mmx305mm-Gouging-Graphite-Electrode/dp/ 
> B0CZQZSY7H
> 
> Then, you can also remove the name:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/ B0CZQZSY7H
> 
> The rest, is tracking information about you.

   True.

   But so much editing is More Work than it's
   usually worth.

>>    Also another kind with a more square profile.
>>
>>    My Dad briefly had a job as a projectionist in the
>>    early 30s - arc lamps and often NITRATE film. There's
>>    a reason those old projection booths were built like
>>    a pill-box.
>>
> 
> Those could catch instant fire.

   Nitrate film could be a massive DISASTER.

   If it lit ... RUN RUN RUN ! It'd burn down
   the whole building.

   The projectionist was SUPPOSED to slam shut
   the STEEL door on exiting. Didn't always
   happen ....

   Nitrate persisted well into the '30s ...
   not so much as new film, but as pre-feature
   old fill-in films.

   Arc lamps did NOT help the equation. Just a
   few seconds of the film jamming and ......

   Hmmm ... saw some old Italian movie not too
   long ago. Everyone at the theater. The film
   jammed for a few seconds - Oh The Horror !

   And such surely happened more than once.

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#87661

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-06-07 20:40 +0000
Message-ID<IGkVR.19874$AR2.10880@fx38.iad>
In reply to#87639
On 2026-06-07, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

> On 6/6/26 06:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> Ah, trick. With Amazon links, you can delete everyhing after the /dp/ 
>> number.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/PATIKIL-6mmx305mm-Gouging-Graphite-Electrode/dp/ 
>> B0CZQZSY7H
>> 
>> Then, you can also remove the name:
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/ B0CZQZSY7H
>> 
>> The rest, is tracking information about you.

Thanks for the tip.  I've been doing that with YouTube URLs too.

>    True.
>
>    But so much editing is More Work than it's
>    usually worth.

This is why Vlad/Xi/Elon/Mark/Tim see to it that such
editing is More Work.  And your dossier continues to grow...

If you challenge people about this, they'll often reply with
that old chestnut: "If you've done nothing wrong, you have
nothing to hide."  That works fine until the definition of
"wrong" changes.  It's even worse if that definition can
change retroactively.

"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that
nobody is out to get you."

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  No artificial
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  intelligence was
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  used in the creation
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  of this post.

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#87668

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-08 00:44 +0000
Message-ID<n8mhipFqrflU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87661
On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 20:40:08 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> This is why Vlad/Xi/Elon/Mark/Tim see to it that such editing is More
> Work.  And your dossier continues to grow...

This morning I was on a site that wanted my phone number and birth date 
for ID. I was having a senior moment and couldn't remember the landline 
number. There are sites like whitepages.com that supposedly function like 
the old white pages. It went off on a long search, prepared a report with 
everything I ever wanted to know about myself for a small sum, $11 iirc. 
No simple phone number. I tried a couple of others and got the same sort 
of bullshit. Finally one showed some teaser info with all but the last 4 
digits obscured. That's what I needed so thank you and FAFO.

I never did find a site that just does a simple landline phone number 
lookup. I was going to try dialing 411 but I don't know if that's even a 
thing anymore. 411.com is another useless site.

At this point unless you've been living in a cave you're screwed. 

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#87674

FromInterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org>
Date2026-06-07 23:06 -0400
Message-ID<1105bkf$2uksn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87668
On 6/7/2026 8:44 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 20:40:08 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> This morning I was on a site that wanted my phone number and birth date
> for ID. I was having a senior moment and couldn't remember the landline
> number. There are sites like whitepages.com that supposedly function like
> the old white pages. It went off on a long search, prepared a report with
> everything I ever wanted to know about myself for a small sum, $11 iirc.
> No simple phone number. I tried a couple of others and got the same sort
> of bullshit. Finally one showed some teaser info with all but the last 4
> digits obscured. That's what I needed so thank you and FAFO.
> 
> I never did find a site that just does a simple landline phone number
> lookup. I was going to try dialing 411 but I don't know if that's even a
> thing anymore. 411.com is another useless site.

That site has existed for a long time, it is 
https://www.therealyellowpages.com

If you look up a city, you can download PDFs of the Yellow Pages and 
White Pages *exactly* as the print edition would appear, along with 
other special sections like the Blue/Green pages. I have done that many 
times. You can also do a simple search but I prefer to just browse the 
actual PDF like I would the book. No Internet access required and it's 
easier to do CTRL+F in the PDF then deal with the website.

I did it again just last week, actually. A household filed comments in 
the wrong FCC docket - it was intended for one of the ongoing dockets 
open about AT&T's California discontinuance applications, but was filed 
in some other unrelated docket. Luckily, the comments had a first and 
last name and city. I pulled the correct White Pages as a PDF from 
therealyellowpages.com, found their listing, called them, left them a 
message on their answering machine letting them know, and the next day, 
the comments were filed in the correct docket.

You can still get the Yellow Pages in print everywhere, but sadly, in 
some places the telco, along with just about everything else, has gotten 
away with not funding the White Pages anymore so you may or may not be 
able to get a free print copy. Problematic for folks without Internet 
access - the telco hasn't decided to offer free directory assistance as 
a result of this change, after all! But you can call (877) 243-8339 M-F 
8-4:45pm Eastern to get free copies of whatever is available for your area.

The physical books have gotten depressingly thin now. I could probably 
rip one in half, but I'm not going to, might as well save them for a 
museum some day, since they could be online only here in the next 
publishing cycle.

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#87681

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-06-08 04:36 +0000
Message-ID<nFrVR.31498$4Y2.5054@fx43.iad>
In reply to#87674
On 2026-06-08, InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> wrote:

> https://www.therealyellowpages.com

Thanks for the link.  I too have found that these phone number
lookup sites are useless, and gave up even trying long ago.

> You can still get the Yellow Pages in print everywhere,

The only thing I've seen around here lately that resembles
the good old Yellow Pages are advertising supplements
issued by a third party.

>                                                         but sadly, in 
> some places the telco, along with just about everything else, has gotten 
> away with not funding the White Pages anymore so you may or may not be 
> able to get a free print copy.

Our telco got rid of the White Pages years ago.  But first they
poisoned them so that nobody would want to use them.  They did
this by splitting the original coverage area into pieces, and
issuing books for each area.  The Yellow Pages portion was the
same in each book, while the white pages were a subset for the
actual area.  This meant that if you wanted to look up someone
in the White Pages you first had to look through a stack of books -
which was several times as thick as the original book -to figure
out which one to use.  It was a tremendous waste of both time and
paper.  For the last couple of years, whenever such a stack of
books landed on my porch, I'd throw it directly into the recycle
bin - still shrink-wrapped - and find the number some other way.
This is probably what the telco wanted all along.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  No artificial
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  intelligence was
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  used in the creation
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  of this post.

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#87683

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-08 00:43 -0400
Message-ID<InGdndrgSosC1bv3nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87674
On 6/7/26 23:06, InterLinked wrote:
> On 6/7/2026 8:44 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 20:40:08 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> This morning I was on a site that wanted my phone number and birth date
>> for ID. I was having a senior moment and couldn't remember the landline
>> number. There are sites like whitepages.com that supposedly function like
>> the old white pages. It went off on a long search, prepared a report with
>> everything I ever wanted to know about myself for a small sum, $11 iirc.
>> No simple phone number. I tried a couple of others and got the same sort
>> of bullshit. Finally one showed some teaser info with all but the last 4
>> digits obscured. That's what I needed so thank you and FAFO.
>>
>> I never did find a site that just does a simple landline phone number
>> lookup. I was going to try dialing 411 but I don't know if that's even a
>> thing anymore. 411.com is another useless site.
> 
> That site has existed for a long time, it is https:// 
> www.therealyellowpages.com
> 
> If you look up a city, you can download PDFs of the Yellow Pages and 
> White Pages *exactly* as the print edition would appear, along with 
> other special sections like the Blue/Green pages. I have done that many 
> times. You can also do a simple search but I prefer to just browse the 
> actual PDF like I would the book. No Internet access required and it's 
> easier to do CTRL+F in the PDF then deal with the website.
> 
> I did it again just last week, actually. A household filed comments in 
> the wrong FCC docket - it was intended for one of the ongoing dockets 
> open about AT&T's California discontinuance applications, but was filed 
> in some other unrelated docket. Luckily, the comments had a first and 
> last name and city. I pulled the correct White Pages as a PDF from 
> therealyellowpages.com, found their listing, called them, left them a 
> message on their answering machine letting them know, and the next day, 
> the comments were filed in the correct docket.
> 
> You can still get the Yellow Pages in print everywhere, but sadly, in 
> some places the telco, along with just about everything else, has gotten 
> away with not funding the White Pages anymore so you may or may not be 
> able to get a free print copy. Problematic for folks without Internet 
> access - the telco hasn't decided to offer free directory assistance as 
> a result of this change, after all! But you can call (877) 243-8339 M-F 
> 8-4:45pm Eastern to get free copies of whatever is available for your area.
> 
> The physical books have gotten depressingly thin now. I could probably 
> rip one in half, but I'm not going to, might as well save them for a 
> museum some day, since they could be online only here in the next 
> publishing cycle.

   Still have the last great physical phone books.

   Probably 90% of the numbers, esp for people with
   landlines, are still valid.

   As for 'phone number lookups' - have tried some
   of them (without paying their extortion fee) and
   it's rare to get any useful results.

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#87559

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-06-05 19:21 +0000
Message-ID<flFUR.38657$SHu9.3135@fx45.iad>
In reply to#87543
On 2026-06-05, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>
>>    Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw 'em in
>>    the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and such ....

Around here recycling depots take them.  I wouldn't want to
use them as weights or whatever - lots of nasty chemicals start
oozing out...

> When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They were good 
> for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones were 
> even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they had two 
> screw terminals.

No. 6 cells.  My early electrical experiments started when I stole
the pair that powered our doorbell.  I might still have one of
those carbon rods around somewhere.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#87561

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-06 00:23 +0000
Message-ID<n8h7kiF1g5uU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87559
On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 19:21:47 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:


> No. 6 cells.  My early electrical experiments started when I stole the
> pair that powered our doorbell.  I might still have one of those carbon
> rods around somewhere.

That's it, thanks. I could picture it but not put a name to it. I'm 
pushing the boundaries of memory but I think they were EverReadys with the 
cat logo.

I've started watching the 'Unforgettable' series. I'm not her -- thank the 
Gods. 

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#87612

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-06-06 18:52 +0000
Message-ID<x%ZUR.9652$8Em1.6959@fx42.iad>
In reply to#87561
On 2026-06-06, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 19:21:47 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> No. 6 cells.  My early electrical experiments started when I stole the
>> pair that powered our doorbell.  I might still have one of those carbon
>> rods around somewhere.
>
> That's it, thanks. I could picture it but not put a name to it. I'm 
> pushing the boundaries of memory but I think they were EverReadys with the 
> cat logo.

Yes!

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#87570

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-06 00:43 -0400
Message-ID<1eCcnWXfKdPjOL73nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87559
o
On 6/5/26 15:21, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-06-05, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 00:25:08 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>>     Hmm ... IS there some use for dead batteries ? Most just throw 'em in
>>>     the trash, but they ARE full of chems and metal salts and such ....
> 
> Around here recycling depots take them.  I wouldn't want to
> use them as weights or whatever - lots of nasty chemicals start
> oozing out...

   Depends. Mostly now I pay a little extra for
   the one-shot lithium batteries. Last a bit
   longer in service, last almost forever in
   storage, don't leak anything.

   Older acid/alk batts ... once saw a flashlight
   AT the hardware store that came with DuraCells.
   They were leaking inside the factory pack !
   Bunny batts are better in this respect.

>> When I was a kid I salvaged the carbon core out of D cells. They were good
>> for making a arc lights. Didn't even get electrocuted. The big ones were
>> even better but I can't remember what they were called. iirc they had two
>> screw terminals.
> 
> No. 6 cells.  My early electrical experiments started when I stole
> the pair that powered our doorbell.  I might still have one of
> those carbon rods around somewhere.

   Amazon does sell 'em - try "welding carbon rod" search.
   Apparently still used for "gouging". You'll want a good
   step-down transformer and PROTECTION if you wanna make
   big bright light.

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#87419

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-06-03 11:49 +0200
Message-ID<8u95fmxucn.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#87397
On 2026-06-03 04:10, Rich wrote:
> InterLinked <usenet@phreaknet.org> wrote:
>> On 6/1/2026 2:30 PM, Rich wrote:
>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2026-06-01 05:20, Rich wrote:


>> and both are now a significant cost that consumers are now expected
>> to bear.
> 
> Also true.  They supply the original battery, but you get to pay to
> replace it when it wears out over time.  And both wear out over time.
> The lead acid from being kept charged, the D cells from self discharge.

True lead acid batteries (not gel, ie, not maintenance free) last way 
longer. 5 years easily, maybe 10.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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