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  Best Linux for senior citizens? Dave <dboland9@protonmail.com> - 2019-08-22 09:15 -0400
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-22 15:45 +0200
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Dave <dboland9@protonmail.com> - 2019-08-22 10:28 -0400
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-22 15:39 +0100
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-22 16:54 +0200
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2019-08-22 11:07 -0400
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-22 20:41 +0200
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2019-08-25 10:37 -0400
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2019-08-25 10:32 -0400
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-22 17:28 +0100
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-08-22 18:46 +0000
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-22 15:35 -0400
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? andrew <andrew@skamandros.invalid> - 2019-08-29 03:25 +0000
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "L.A. Rathbone" <please@replytolist.com> - 2019-08-29 03:27 +0000
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? andrew <andrew@skamandros.invalid> - 2019-08-29 04:03 +0000
              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "L.A. Rathbone" <please@replytolist.com> - 2019-08-30 02:40 +0000
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? andrew <andrew@skamandros.invalid> - 2019-08-30 05:24 +0000
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-23 15:49 -0700
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-08-25 23:00 +0000
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-25 16:50 -0700
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-08-26 23:35 +0000
              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-26 17:48 -0700
              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-26 20:16 -0500
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-08-26 19:46 -0700
                  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-27 14:42 -0400
                    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-27 23:20 +0200
                      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-28 13:01 -0400
                        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-29 15:57 +0200
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-08-26 22:12 -0700
                  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-27 03:22 -0700
                  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-27 13:43 +0200
                  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "L.A. Rathbone" <please@replytolist.com> - 2019-08-27 16:38 +0000
                    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-08-27 17:12 +0000
                      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-27 16:53 -0500
                        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-08-27 15:46 -0700
                          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-28 14:21 +0200
                            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-08-28 07:49 -0700
                            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-29 07:45 +0100
                        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-08-28 02:11 +0000
                        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-08-28 20:19 +0000
                          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-08-29 02:56 +0000
                    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-08-27 19:11 +0000
                    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-27 16:53 -0500
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-27 13:08 +0200
                  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2019-08-29 16:48 -0500
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-27 14:34 -0400
                  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-27 23:16 +0200
                    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-28 12:59 -0400
                      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2019-08-29 16:50 -0500
                  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-27 16:53 -0500
                    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-28 13:50 -0400
                      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-08-28 11:45 -0700
                        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-29 12:27 -0400
                          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-09-21 10:47 -0400
                        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-09-21 10:27 -0400
                      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-08-28 18:50 +0000
                      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-29 15:59 +0200
                  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-08-27 17:00 -0400
                    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-28 14:23 +0200
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-08-27 23:45 +0000
                  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-28 13:59 -0400
                    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-08-28 23:40 +0000
              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-09-21 10:18 -0400
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-22 15:39 +0100
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-26 08:31 -0500
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-26 16:47 +0200
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-26 10:55 -0500
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-26 13:18 -0400
              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-26 23:45 +0200
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-26 17:36 -0500
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-27 14:24 -0400
                  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-27 23:12 +0200
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-26 16:37 +0100
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2019-08-26 19:23 +0000
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? ray carter <ray@zianet.com> - 2019-08-22 14:45 +0000
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-08-22 10:19 -0500
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Dave <dboland9@protonmail.com> - 2019-08-22 14:37 -0400
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-08-22 16:04 -0500
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-08-22 18:43 +0000
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Dave <dboland9@protonmail.com> - 2019-08-22 17:08 -0400
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? John Forkosh <forkosh@panix.com> - 2019-08-23 05:25 +0000
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-23 15:45 -0400
              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-24 14:55 -0400
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-24 21:02 +0200
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-22 14:48 -0400
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Dave <dboland9@protonmail.com> - 2019-08-22 17:15 -0400
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-23 00:11 +0200
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-23 08:36 +0100
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-23 09:06 +0100
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-23 12:33 +0100
              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-23 14:03 +0100
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-23 16:28 +0200
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-26 08:31 -0500
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-08-26 20:35 +0000
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-26 13:25 -0400
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-23 08:31 +0100
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-08-23 03:54 +0000
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-08-23 01:05 -0400
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Dave <dboland9@protonmail.com> - 2019-08-23 02:04 -0400
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-08-23 01:59 -0500
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-08-23 03:06 -0400
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Dave <dboland9@protonmail.com> - 2019-08-23 07:27 -0400
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-23 16:35 +0200
              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-23 18:05 +0100
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "L.A. Rathbone" <please@replytolist.com> - 2019-08-25 22:23 +0000
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-26 13:01 -0400
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-26 08:31 -0500
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-26 13:04 -0400
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-08-26 17:49 +0000
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-08-26 09:45 -0700
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-08-26 13:26 -0400

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#27907 — Best Linux for senior citizens?

A friend of mine works with seniors and they are facing getting rid of 
what ever Windows version they had (7 maybe - don't know for sure) on 
their many computers. Windows 10 seems to be an issue for them for a lot 
of reasons.  So he asked me about Linux.  The problem for me is that I 
don't have any experience with this.  So, I'm hoping that some of you 
have had experience with Linux for seniors that may have had some 
computer experience - Windows XP perhaps - and can describe the 
situation they faced, what distribution worked best, and anything that 
may be of interest.

I have been told that Linux Mint and Elementary are good.  I find Mint 
to be ugly, and their web site demands cookies ( a total non-starter 
with me).  Elementary wants a donation up front - not going to happen, 
though I would gladly consider it if it is selected.

I use Ubuntu Mate, though that will change as soon as I find a Linux I 
like better. My needs though are not the same as seniors, so what I use 
likely won't help them.

Thanks,
Dave

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#27908

On 22/08/2019 15.15, Dave wrote:
> A friend of mine works with seniors and they are facing getting rid of
> what ever Windows version they had (7 maybe - don't know for sure) on
> their many computers. Windows 10 seems to be an issue for them for a lot
> of reasons.  So he asked me about Linux.  The problem for me is that I
> don't have any experience with this.  So, I'm hoping that some of you
> have had experience with Linux for seniors that may have had some
> computer experience - Windows XP perhaps - and can describe the
> situation they faced, what distribution worked best, and anything that
> may be of interest.

The answer is simple: use the distribution that the person that will do
the maintenance is familiar with. Thus, me I would use openSUSE (with XFCE)

> 
> I have been told that Linux Mint and Elementary are good.  I find Mint
> to be ugly, and their web site demands cookies ( a total non-starter
> with me). 

Then you will have problems with any serious current distribution.
Forget your phobia.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#27909

On 8/22/19 9:45 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

>>
>> I have been told that Linux Mint and Elementary are good.  I find Mint
>> to be ugly, and their web site demands cookies ( a total non-starter
>> with me).
> 
> Then you will have problems with any serious current distribution.
> Forget your phobia.
> 
Not going to happen.  I can not reconcile the concept of open source and 
software freedom with demands for cookies.  If they require cookies, 
then they should be closed source like M$.

Dave,

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#27911

On 22/08/2019 15:28, Dave wrote:
> On 8/22/19 9:45 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> I have been told that Linux Mint and Elementary are good.  I find Mint
>>> to be ugly, and their web site demands cookies ( a total non-starter
>>> with me).
>>
>> Then you will have problems with any serious current distribution.
>> Forget your phobia.
>>
> Not going to happen.  I can not reconcile the concept of open source and 
> software freedom with demands for cookies.  If they require cookies, 
> then they should be closed source like M$.

Do you know what a cookie is?

> 
> Dave,


-- 
The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all 
private property.

Karl Marx

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#27913

On 22/08/2019 16.39, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 22/08/2019 15:28, Dave wrote:
>> On 8/22/19 9:45 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been told that Linux Mint and Elementary are good.  I find Mint
>>>> to be ugly, and their web site demands cookies ( a total non-starter
>>>> with me).
>>>
>>> Then you will have problems with any serious current distribution.
>>> Forget your phobia.
>>>
>> Not going to happen.  I can not reconcile the concept of open source
>> and software freedom with demands for cookies.  If they require
>> cookies, then they should be closed source like M$.
> 
> Do you know what a cookie is?

No, he doesn't...

I'll refrain then from recommending any Linux, given that impossible
requirement.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#27914

Dave wrote:

> On 8/22/19 9:45 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> I have been told that Linux Mint and Elementary are good.  I find Mint
>>> to be ugly, and their web site demands cookies ( a total non-starter
>>> with me).
>> 
>> Then you will have problems with any serious current distribution.
>> Forget your phobia.
>> 
> Not going to happen.  I can not reconcile the concept of open source and
> software freedom with demands for cookies.  If they require cookies,
> then they should be closed source like M$.

Apparently, you don't know what cookies are for, or how websites use them.
You aren't going to find many websites that /do not/ use cookies. Cookies 
aren't really the privacy issue; the real issue is what information you 
voluntarily give the website, how they associate that information with the 
cookie or cookies that they use, and what they do with /that/ association.

FWIW, education is the best cure for phobia, I've found.
-- 
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills, We Trust"

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#27919

On 22/08/2019 17.07, Lew Pitcher wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> 
>> On 8/22/19 9:45 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been told that Linux Mint and Elementary are good.  I find Mint
>>>> to be ugly, and their web site demands cookies ( a total non-starter
>>>> with me).
>>>
>>> Then you will have problems with any serious current distribution.
>>> Forget your phobia.
>>>
>> Not going to happen.  I can not reconcile the concept of open source and
>> software freedom with demands for cookies.  If they require cookies,
>> then they should be closed source like M$.
> 
> Apparently, you don't know what cookies are for, or how websites use them.
> You aren't going to find many websites that /do not/ use cookies. Cookies 
> aren't really the privacy issue; the real issue is what information you 
> voluntarily give the website, how they associate that information with the 
> cookie or cookies that they use, and what they do with /that/ association.
> 
> FWIW, education is the best cure for phobia, I've found.

Right.

Also, there are many types of cookies.

There are, for example, cookies to store configuration your choices.
Like "I want to see the site in German". That is stored in a cookie.
Those cookies are not tracking people or breaking their privacy.

Others can be used to store login/password data. Not the actual
password, but to somehow know that you passed the entry door. Yeah,
these can be said "they track me". Yes, they do, but there is apparently
no other way.

Then there are others generated by, say, google stat collection scripts.
When you enter another site, the script there will read those cookies
and find out where you come from.  If you click and add, the save that
information. Those you may dislike.

You can browse each site in private mode, and erase the cookies after
leaving the site. That will negate them their purpose, good or "evil".
The next day you will have to ask for the German version again.

Now, equating the use of any cookie to been an evil and hateful site,
improper for Linux people... wow.

Any major distribution with a complex site will use some cookies. Any
site with any add needs cookies. Linux sites have adds from their
sponsors, those that provide them with computers to run the site, serve
the download site, compile the packages. And adds come often with
scripts, that's unfortunate.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#27951

On 8/22/19 2:41 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 22/08/2019 17.07, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>> Dave wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/22/19 9:45 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been told that Linux Mint and Elementary are good.  I find Mint
>>>>> to be ugly, and their web site demands cookies ( a total non-starter
>>>>> with me).
>>>>
>>>> Then you will have problems with any serious current distribution.
>>>> Forget your phobia.
>>>>
>>> Not going to happen.  I can not reconcile the concept of open source and
>>> software freedom with demands for cookies.  If they require cookies,
>>> then they should be closed source like M$.
>>
>> Apparently, you don't know what cookies are for, or how websites use them.
>> You aren't going to find many websites that /do not/ use cookies. Cookies 
>> aren't really the privacy issue; the real issue is what information you 
>> voluntarily give the website, how they associate that information with the 
>> cookie or cookies that they use, and what they do with /that/ association.
>>
>> FWIW, education is the best cure for phobia, I've found.
> 
> Right.
> 
> Also, there are many types of cookies.
> 
> There are, for example, cookies to store configuration your choices.
> Like "I want to see the site in German". That is stored in a cookie.
> Those cookies are not tracking people or breaking their privacy.
> 
> Others can be used to store login/password data. Not the actual
> password, but to somehow know that you passed the entry door. Yeah,
> these can be said "they track me". Yes, they do, but there is apparently
> no other way.
> 
> Then there are others generated by, say, google stat collection scripts.
> When you enter another site, the script there will read those cookies
> and find out where you come from.  If you click and add, the save that
> information. Those you may dislike.
> 
> You can browse each site in private mode, and erase the cookies after
> leaving the site. That will negate them their purpose, good or "evil".
> The next day you will have to ask for the German version again.
> 
> Now, equating the use of any cookie to been an evil and hateful site,
> improper for Linux people... wow.
> 
> Any major distribution with a complex site will use some cookies. Any
> site with any add needs cookies. Linux sites have adds from their
> sponsors, those that provide them with computers to run the site, serve
> the download site, compile the packages. And adds come often with
> scripts, that's unfortunate.
> 


http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/

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#27950

On 8/22/19 10:28 AM, Dave wrote:
> I can not reconcile the concept of open source and software freedom with
> demands for cookies.


you obvious don't know what a  cookie is

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#27916

"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
> On 22/08/2019 15.15, Dave wrote:
>> I have been told that Linux Mint and Elementary are good.  I find
>> Mint to be ugly, and their web site demands cookies ( a total
>> non-starter with me).
>
> Then you will have problems with any serious current distribution.
> Forget your phobia.

I see no cookies from debian.org...

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#27921

In comp.os.linux.misc, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 22/08/2019 15.15, Dave wrote:
>> I have been told that Linux Mint and Elementary are good. I find Mint
>> to be ugly, and their web site demands cookies ( a total non-starter
>> with me). 

Just because they want cookies doesn't mean you have to allow them to
use the site.

> Then you will have problems with any serious current distribution.
> Forget your phobia.

I didn't see any cookies from slackware.com visiting in lynx, which
usually tells me about cookies.

Slackware is a bit harder to set up, but a lot less likely to update
something for you. That's good for people set in their ways.

Elijah
------
eg seniors

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#27924

On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 18:46:14 +0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.misc, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 22/08/2019 15.15, Dave wrote:
>>> I have been told that Linux Mint and Elementary are good. I find Mint
>>> to be ugly, and their web site demands cookies ( a total non-starter
>>> with me). 
>
> Just because they want cookies doesn't mean you have to allow them to
> use the site.

In some cases websites won't allow to browse them at all. I accept all
but tell the browser to delete them at the end of the session.
-- 
Andreas

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#28012

On 2019-08-22, Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:

> Slackware is a bit harder to set up, but a lot less likely to update
> something for you. That's good for people set in their ways.

With a release of Slackware 15.0 looking like a near thing soon this
would be a great choice, perhaps with Xfce as the default desktop
environment?

Andrew
-- 
You think that's air you're breathing now?

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#28013

On 2019-08-29, andrew wrote:
> On 2019-08-22, Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
>
>> Slackware is a bit harder to set up, but a lot less likely to update
>> something for you. That's good for people set in their ways.
>
> With a release of Slackware 15.0 looking like a near thing soon this
> would be a great choice, perhaps with Xfce as the default desktop
> environment?

I don't think it's coming out *that* soon - KDE5 hasn't even landed in
-current yet.

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#28014

On 2019-08-29, L.A. Rathbone <please@replytolist.com> wrote:

> I don't think it's coming out *that* soon - KDE5 hasn't even landed
> in -current yet.

PV is a cautious man, my bet is that KDE5 will be part of the next
development cycle. My next bet is a Slackware 15 release before Xmas
2019... 

Andrew
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#28037

On 2019-08-29, andrew wrote:
> On 2019-08-29, L.A. Rathbone <please@replytolist.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't think it's coming out *that* soon - KDE5 hasn't even landed
>> in -current yet.
>
> PV is a cautious man, my bet is that KDE5 will be part of the next
> development cycle. My next bet is a Slackware 15 release before Xmas
> 2019... 

True. Part of me has thought that maybe PV isn't 100% sure if he even
wants to include KDE in Slackware 15.

I think if he wasn't at least a bit on the fence, it would have landed
in current, since alienBOB's KDE5 ktown packages have been quite solid
for some time.

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#28040

On 2019-08-30, L.A. Rathbone <please@replytolist.com> wrote:

> True. Part of me has thought that maybe PV isn't 100% sure if he even
> wants to include KDE in Slackware 15.
>
> I think if he wasn't at least a bit on the fence, it would have landed
> in current, since alienBOB's KDE5 ktown packages have been quite solid
> for some time.

Those of us who are using Fluxbox are sitting pretty either way :)

Andrew
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#27946

On 8/22/19 6:45 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 22/08/2019 15.15, Dave wrote:
>> A friend of mine works with seniors and they are facing getting rid of
>> what ever Windows version they had (7 maybe - don't know for sure) on
>> their many computers. Windows 10 seems to be an issue for them for a lot
>> of reasons.  So he asked me about Linux.  The problem for me is that I
>> don't have any experience with this.  So, I'm hoping that some of you
>> have had experience with Linux for seniors that may have had some
>> computer experience - Windows XP perhaps - and can describe the
>> situation they faced, what distribution worked best, and anything that
>> may be of interest.
> 
> The answer is simple: use the distribution that the person that will do
> the maintenance is familiar with. Thus, me I would use openSUSE (with XFCE)
> 
>>
>> I have been told that Linux Mint and Elementary are good.  I find Mint
>> to be ugly, and their web site demands cookies ( a total non-starter
>> with me).
> 
> Then you will have problems with any serious current distribution.
> Forget your phobia.
> 

I concur.

I use Fedroa and Xfce.

I remove panel one and move panel zero to the bottom to make it
look like XP.  Then I create the icons that they use on their desktop
(again, like XP).  And I lock the panel so it can't be moved.

Firefox
Brave
Thunderbird
Libre Office
Shotwell
VLC
Master PDF Editor (free version)

And I set up wall paper and screen saver (usually a slide
show of their grand kids).

And DONOTDONOTDONOT forget to set up their printer, or you
are going back out there!

-T


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crashed Windows," people just stare at
you blankly and say, "Hey, I got those
with the system, for free."
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#27953

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
> And DONOTDONOTDONOT forget to set up their printer, or you
> are going back out there!

At which point you discover that there is no Linux driver that works
properly with it, and it's a new one that they proudly bought the
other day. Then you're in trouble.

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#27954

On 8/25/19 4:00 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> And DONOTDONOTDONOT forget to set up their printer, or you
>> are going back out there!
> 
> At which point you discover that there is no Linux driver that works
> properly with it, and it's a new one that they proudly bought the
> other day. Then you're in trouble.
> 

Been there done that, but a lot of years ago.

Now-a-days, you just fire up your web browser and go
get the ppd from

      http://openprinting.org/printers

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