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The boring Linux habit that saves machines

Started byTheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null>
First post2026-05-30 22:28 +0000
Last post2026-06-07 01:33 -0400
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  The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-30 22:28 +0000
    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-30 23:51 -0400
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 04:23 +0000
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 02:26 -0400
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 06:41 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 03:37 -0400
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 07:46 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 08:55 +0000
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 12:07 +0200
                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 10:14 +0000
                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 13:06 +0200
                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 11:12 +0000
                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:45 +0000
                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 05:13 -0400
                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 18:30 +0000
                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 20:49 +0200
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 02:00 -0400
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 09:07 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 02:11 -0400
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 09:10 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 02:15 -0400
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-06-01 12:20 +0300
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-01 09:38 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 02:20 -0400
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 11:08 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 23:58 -0400
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-04 11:47 +0000
                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 11:57 -0400
                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-05 12:53 +0000
                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-05 17:35 +0100
                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-05 16:42 +0000
                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 00:06 -0400
                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-06 10:35 +0100
                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 03:35 -0400
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 13:39 +0100
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 14:41 +0100
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 00:04 -0400
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:34 +0100
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 18:08 +0000
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 21:24 +0100
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 01:46 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 03:09 -0400
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:17 +0100
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 01:33 -0400
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:53 +0100
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 18:52 +0200
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 21:47 +0100
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 02:58 +0000
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 01:36 -0400
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:46 +0100
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 07:52 +0100
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 01:16 -0400
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:28 +0000
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:42 +0100
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:40 +0100
                                                    [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 09:06 +0100
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-10 19:22 +0000
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 21:48 +0100
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 00:57 -0400
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:27 +0000
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 18:28 +0000
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 02:54 -0400
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 01:27 -0400
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 10:57 +0200
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-06-07 08:00 -0700
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:35 +0100
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:48 +0000
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:53 +0100
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 08:26 +0100
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 23:06 -0400
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 00:11 -0400
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-09 17:42 +0000
                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-06 10:39 +0100
                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 03:44 -0400
                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 23:55 -0400
                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 09:40 +0000
                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:47 +0000
                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-07 13:58 +0200
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-07 20:40 +0000
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:39 +0000
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 23:00 -0400
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 04:36 +0000
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 02:30 -0400
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:19 +0100
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 23:53 -0400
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-08 14:23 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 02:28 -0400
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 18:24 +0000
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 02:40 -0400
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-10 19:17 +0000
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 00:56 -0400
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:24 +0000
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 18:08 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-08 22:42 +0200
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:45 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 01:44 +0000
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 03:08 -0400
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:07 +0200
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 01:03 -0400
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 10:43 +0200
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 10:52 +0200
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 00:33 -0400
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:03 +0000
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 02:42 -0400
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:31 +0200
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-09 18:31 +0000
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 03:16 -0400
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:54 +0100
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2026-06-08 21:46 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 04:50 +0000
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 03:16 -0400
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 08:49 +0100
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 01:48 -0400
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:11 +0200
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 01:32 -0400
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-10 05:38 +0000
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 10:49 +0200
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:08 +0000
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 00:31 +0000
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-11 03:31 +0000
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 04:36 +0000
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 08:37 +0100
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-09 18:31 +0000
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 02:54 -0400
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-08 14:12 +0000
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 18:08 +0000
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 01:30 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:15 +0200
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-09 18:31 +0000
                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 14:30 +0100
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 23:38 -0400
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:22 +0100
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 00:28 -0400
                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 04:03 -0400
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 18:42 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 08:53 +0000
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 01:53 -0400
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 08:52 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 01:41 -0400
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 06:41 +0000
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 03:07 -0400
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 13:28 +0200
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 19:16 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 05:18 -0400
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-07 18:59 +0000
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 09:40 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:51 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 04:56 -0400
    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-05-31 16:43 +0800
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 08:48 +0000
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-31 10:16 +0000
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 10:22 +0000
    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 06:38 +0000
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 03:04 -0400
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 13:32 +0200
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 11:34 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 14:01 +0200
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-09 20:29 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 22:52 +0200
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 04:36 -0400
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-10 08:48 +0000
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-06 09:17 +0100
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 09:40 +0000
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:57 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:11 +0100
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-09 20:30 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:19 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-10 00:22 +0000
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 04:18 -0400
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 01:33 -0400

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#87709

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-09 01:46 +0000
Message-ID<n8p9jqF8q2vU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87701
On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
> Oh well, same day, different war...

Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell 
Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead. 

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#87727

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-09 03:09 -0400
Message-ID<zOCcnVFzd4itIbr3nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#87709
On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>> Oh well, same day, different war...
> 
> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell
> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.

   Wow ... TDS even here .........

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#87737

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-09 11:17 +0100
Message-ID<1108p7r$3t5ug$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87727
On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote:
> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>>> Oh well, same day, different war...
>>
>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell
>> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
> 
>    Wow ... TDS even here .........
> 
It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House.


-- 
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in 
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in 
someone else's pocket.

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#87778

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-10 01:33 -0400
Message-ID<1OKdnWPXId28arX3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87737
On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote:
>> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>>>> Oh well, same day, different war...
>>>
>>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell
>>> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
>>
>>    Wow ... TDS even here .........
>>
> It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House.

   Tisk !

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#87804

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-10 11:53 +0100
Message-ID<110bfn5$m24r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87778
On 10/06/2026 06:33, c186282 wrote:
> On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>>>>> Oh well, same day, different war...
>>>>
>>>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell
>>>> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
>>>
>>>    Wow ... TDS even here .........
>>>
>> It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House.
> 
>    Tisk !
> 
 From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit 
crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from 
Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second coming of Trump, 
son of God.

He's just a very naughty boy.

-- 
In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act.

- George Orwell

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#87810

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-06-10 18:52 +0200
Message-ID<pahofmxcl8.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#87804
On 2026-06-10 12:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 10/06/2026 06:33, c186282 wrote:
>> On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote:
>>>> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>>>>>> Oh well, same day, different war...
>>>>>
>>>>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell
>>>>> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
>>>>
>>>>    Wow ... TDS even here .........
>>>>
>>> It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House.
>>
>>    Tisk !
>>
>  From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit 
> crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from 
> Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second coming of Trump, 
> son of God.
> 
> He's just a very naughty boy.

Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are friends.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87823

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-10 21:47 +0100
Message-ID<110cigv$10v56$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87810
On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit 
>> crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from 
>> Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second coming of Trump, 
>> son of God.
>>
>> He's just a very naughty boy.
> 
> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are friends.

Well the US state, anyway,

Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term interest. 
Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth protecting.

Trump is simply too stupid to understand that.  If he cant make a profit 
right now, he isn't interested.



-- 
Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that 
doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that 
don't protect,  masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.

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#87826

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-11 02:58 +0000
Message-ID<n8uminF52itU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87823
On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 21:47:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit
>>> crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from
>>> Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second coming of Trump,
>>> son of God.
>>>
>>> He's just a very naughty boy.
>> 
>> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are
>> friends.
> 
> Well the US state, anyway,
> 
> Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term interest.
> Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth protecting.

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/european-
union

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/eu-us-trade/

If you have a $200 billion trade deficit is it worth pursuing the market? 
The sectors that do export to the EU would say yes; the sectors hurt by EU 
imports might not be as enthusiastic. It's clear why the US is so intent 
on exporting LNG to the EU, particularly Germany. It's not so clear why 
Germany chose that alternative to cheaper Russian gas. 

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#87839

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-11 01:36 -0400
Message-ID<I-GcnYM-B9361Lf3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87826
On 6/10/26 22:58, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 21:47:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>  From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit
>>>> crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from
>>>> Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second coming of Trump,
>>>> son of God.
>>>>
>>>> He's just a very naughty boy.
>>>
>>> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are
>>> friends.
>>
>> Well the US state, anyway,
>>
>> Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term interest.
>> Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth protecting.
> 
> https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/european-
> union
> 
> https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/eu-us-trade/
> 
> If you have a $200 billion trade deficit is it worth pursuing the market?
> The sectors that do export to the EU would say yes; the sectors hurt by EU
> imports might not be as enthusiastic. It's clear why the US is so intent
> on exporting LNG to the EU, particularly Germany. It's not so clear why
> Germany chose that alternative to cheaper Russian gas.

   Well ... CHEAPER !

   But that CAN screw you.

   Despite the recent new surge against Iran, the EU
   can expect its reserves to run out fairly soon.
   Jet fuel seems to be the first one to go.

   Trump was smart to fix Venezuela FIRST  :-)

   There ARE alternative oil/gas sources around
   the world, out of the Gulf sphere. Seems a
   lot of panic investment going into those now.

   The USA can supply JUST enough petrochemicals to
   keep the EU alive. Not 'healthy', but alive.

   Alas DID see a news blurb today saying Chinese
   EVs are surging. The advantage WON'T last though,
   energy is energy. Too many people Plug In and
   the electric grids will start to buckle and the
   price per KW will go WAY up.

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#87860

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-11 11:46 +0100
Message-ID<110e3lb$1cf90$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87839
On 11/06/2026 06:36, c186282 wrote:
> The USA can supply JUST enough petrochemicals to
>    keep the EU alive. Not 'healthy', but alive.

The USA cant supply itself alone.

"The United States remained a net crude oil importer in 2022, importing 
about 6.28 million b/d of crude oil and exporting about 3.58 million b/d."

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-and-exports.php
Hows that cheap pump gas doing pal?

-- 
"In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is 
true: it is true because it is powerful."

Lucas Bergkamp

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#87850

FromRichard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-11 07:52 +0100
Message-ID<wwv1pedd0wk.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to#87826
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are
>>> friends.
>> 
>> Well the US state, anyway,
>> 
>> Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term
>> interest.  Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth
>> protecting.
> 
> https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/european-
> union
>
> https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/eu-us-trade/
>
> If you have a $200 billion trade deficit is it worth pursuing the
> market?

The _goods_ trade deficit is ~$200bn in the EU’s favour; the total
(goods and services) trade deficit is around $20bn out of
$1.7tn. Basically a rounding error.

Also the EU is not famous for being cheap as a place to do business, if
the US is running a goods trade deficit with it then that seems like a
skill issue. What are you guys playing at?! Hire some competent
managers.

> The sectors that do export to the EU would say yes; the sectors hurt
> by EU imports might not be as enthusiastic. It's clear why the US is
> so intent on exporting LNG to the EU, particularly Germany. It's not
> so clear why Germany chose that alternative to cheaper Russian gas.

At least to an extent, Germany chose non-Russian gas because Ukraine
blew up the undersea pipeline...  they’ve mostly got their heads turned
back round to realizing that Russia is a threat again by now though.

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#87838

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-11 01:16 -0400
Message-ID<FBicnUsM2upz2bf3nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87823
On 6/10/26 16:47, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit 
>>> crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from 
>>> Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second coming of 
>>> Trump, son of God.
>>>
>>> He's just a very naughty boy.
>>
>> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are 
>> friends.
> 
> Well the US state, anyway,
> 
> Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term interest. 
> Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth protecting.
> 
> Trump is simply too stupid to understand that.  If he cant make a profit 
> right now, he isn't interested.

   Note those Euros got to think of the USA as
   "Uncle Money-Bags" for a LONG time.

   No wonder they're upset.

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#87845

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-11 06:28 +0000
Message-ID<n8v2t3F6v90U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87838
On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 01:16:32 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Note those Euros got to think of the USA as "Uncle Money-Bags" for a
>    LONG time.

The US wanted to be the big dog after WWII; the bill is coming due. 

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#87859

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-11 11:42 +0100
Message-ID<110e3en$1cf90$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87845
On 11/06/2026 07:28, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 01:16:32 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Note those Euros got to think of the USA as "Uncle Money-Bags" for a
>>     LONG time.
> 
> The US wanted to be the big dog after WWII; the bill is coming due.

Indeed it is. Galloping inflation, exports crashing, unemployment on the 
rise.
Crippling healthcare costs. No broadband.



-- 
"In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is 
true: it is true because it is powerful."

Lucas Bergkamp

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#87858

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-11 11:40 +0100
Message-ID<110e3ad$1cf90$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87838
On 11/06/2026 06:16, c186282 wrote:
> On 6/10/26 16:47, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit 
>>>> crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from 
>>>> Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second coming of 
>>>> Trump, son of God.
>>>>
>>>> He's just a very naughty boy.
>>>
>>> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are 
>>> friends.
>>
>> Well the US state, anyway,
>>
>> Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term 
>> interest. Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth protecting.
>>
>> Trump is simply too stupid to understand that.  If he cant make a 
>> profit right now, he isn't interested.
> 
>    Note those Euros got to think of the USA as
>    "Uncle Money-Bags" for a LONG time.
> 
>    No wonder they're upset.
> 
I think you are profoundly mistaken

Europe sells more to the US than the US sells to Europe. That's not 
'money bags' that's a supplier not making what his customers want. See 
John Deere etc.

And then when you find that the imports can't be used without US 
permission, when you need then, you tend to dump the whole product 
lines. See F35.

The USA simply thinks its more important than it is.

It is welcome to boycott European products and welsh on its commitments 
to Europe, but it can't expect to maintain its exports or 'frendship' 
under such conditions.

Trump still hasn't got past the basic 'you fuck with me once, I won't do 
business with you again' style of business.

The rest of the world is discovering how little they actually *need* the 
USA at all.

Dump Microsoft. Install Linux.
Dump Apple, buy Samsung.
Dump John Deere, Buy Claas
Dump Lockheed, buy Saab
Dump US missiles, buy Ukrainian drones.
Dump Intel, buy Arm.
Dump Boeing, buy Airbus or Embraer.

Europe bought American because it was ok and cheap and the bribes were good.
Now its none of the above.

I mean even MAGA doesn't make sense. Make America Great Again.
Great, compared with what? North Korea?

You can't have isolationism and then compare yourself with the rest of a 
world you just said you don't care about. And have cut yourself off from.

United capitalist corporate republic of America. Behind a firewall.

*shrug*. No one cares any more..

-- 
I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
...than to have answers that cannot be questioned

Richard Feynman


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#87852 — [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines)

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-11 09:06 +0100
Subject[OT] Percetion of the USA abroad (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines)
Message-ID<110dqav$19h5s$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87810
On 2026-06-10, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2026-06-10 12:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 10/06/2026 06:33, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote:
>>>>> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>>>>>>> Oh well, same day, different war...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell
>>>>>> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Wow ... TDS even here .........
>>>>>
>>>> It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House.
>>>
>>>    Tisk !
>>>
>>  From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone
>> batshit crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal
>> collapse from Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second
>> coming of Trump, son of God.
>>
>> He's just a very naughty boy.
>
> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are friends.

If one takes "American" to mean "from the USA", it's not hard to imagine
that.

Besides what was already a not so stellar reputation, we now have that
nation repeatedly threatening to invade and annex parts of Denmark.

And, at the same time the USA takes strategic advantage of Washington
Treaty allied military installations in Europe for their middle east
warfare - at the very least they've been using FAP Air Base no. 4 - they
claim their allies "aren't helping" in the war. (But what war, you may
ask, given that reportedly there is no war going on, according to a US
citizen called [reads notes] Donald John Trump.)

This besides [gestures] everything else the US administration has been
doing.

Of course it isn't fair to extend judgement of the US administration to
all the US residents and citizens. Just like it wouldn't be fair to
extend any dissatisfaction with Japan to anybody of japanese heritage in
the USA after Pearl Harbor.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#87814

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-10 19:22 +0000
Message-ID<n8trrjF104sU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87778
On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 01:33:52 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>>>>> Oh well, same day, different war...
>>>>
>>>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can
>>>> tell Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
>>>
>>>    Wow ... TDS even here .........
>>>
>> It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House.
> 
>    Tisk !

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/10/trump-inflation-cpi-iran-oil.html

"Trump says ‘I love the inflation’ after consumer price index hits 3-year 
high"

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#87824

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-10 21:48 +0100
Message-ID<110ciii$10v56$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87814
On 10/06/2026 20:22, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 01:33:52 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>> On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote:
>>>> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>>>>>> Oh well, same day, different war...
>>>>>
>>>>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can
>>>>> tell Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
>>>>
>>>>     Wow ... TDS even here .........
>>>>
>>> It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House.
>>
>>     Tisk !
> 
> https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/10/trump-inflation-cpi-iran-oil.html
> 
> "Trump says ‘I love the inflation’ after consumer price index hits 3-year
> high"
> 
Big Beautiful Inflation...
-- 
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit 
atrocities.”

― Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de 
Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de 
M. de Voltaire

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#87834

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-11 00:57 -0400
Message-ID<I-GcnYY-B93I3bf3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87814
On 6/10/26 15:22, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 01:33:52 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>> On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote:
>>>> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>>>>>> Oh well, same day, different war...
>>>>>
>>>>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can
>>>>> tell Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
>>>>
>>>>     Wow ... TDS even here .........
>>>>
>>> It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House.
>>
>>     Tisk !
> 
> https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/10/trump-inflation-cpi-iran-oil.html
> 
> "Trump says ‘I love the inflation’ after consumer price index hits 3-year
> high"


   Hey, he's a SALESMAN !  :-)

   Mostly we don't buy it, of course ... but at the same
   time we DO want Iran reduced to 4th world.

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#87844

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-11 06:27 +0000
Message-ID<n8v2qrF6v90U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87834
On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 00:57:48 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Hey, he's a SALESMAN !
> 
>    Mostly we don't buy it, of course ... but at the same time we DO want
>    Iran reduced to 4th world.

Is that 'we' a mouse in your pocket? The US has been fucking with Iran 
since '53. Personally I'd rather deal with Iran than any of the various 
Semitic tribes in the neighborhood. 

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