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| Started by | Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> |
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| First post | 2025-01-15 16:32 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-01-16 22:24 -0700 |
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smart plugs??? Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2025-01-15 16:32 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-15 17:14 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2025-01-18 09:28 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-01-15 09:30 -0800
Re: smart plugs??? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 18:30 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2025-01-15 20:31 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-15 20:35 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2025-01-17 10:43 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2025-01-16 09:33 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:36 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 17:10 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-16 20:07 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Phillip <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> - 2025-01-16 15:48 -0500
Re: smart plugs??? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-16 20:55 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-16 23:34 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-17 00:22 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-17 02:53 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 03:49 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:45 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 19:27 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:38 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 11:04 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 18:04 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-18 19:04 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 11:38 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-19 18:41 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 23:04 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-20 01:57 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-20 10:37 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-18 19:00 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 11:37 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-01-19 14:39 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-19 18:11 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-18 00:27 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:49 +0100
Fitbit by Google (Re: smart plugs???) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-17 18:34 +0000
Re: Fitbit by Google (Re: smart plugs???) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 20:40 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:40 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 10:37 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 16:46 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 15:47 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 19:15 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:37 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-18 19:14 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 11:40 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2025-01-19 11:31 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 23:01 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-19 18:51 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 23:06 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2025-01-17 19:05 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-18 00:27 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:47 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2025-01-17 19:02 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2025-01-17 16:42 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:35 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:14 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-16 13:45 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-16 15:20 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-16 20:22 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-16 22:28 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:14 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-17 14:36 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-16 20:05 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Chris Elvidge <chris@internal.net> - 2025-01-16 12:24 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-01-16 08:25 -0500
Re: smart plugs??? Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2025-01-17 16:48 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-18 02:21 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2025-01-18 08:55 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 11:02 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-18 14:13 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 13:46 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-18 20:55 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-19 13:22 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-19 15:18 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-18 11:19 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 11:25 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-18 15:12 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-18 15:31 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 15:39 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-18 16:55 -0500
Re: smart plugs??? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 21:46 -0500
Re: smart plugs??? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 11:01 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? wicklowham <wicklowham.nospam@rfburns.eu> - 2025-01-18 13:00 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? yossarian <<nomail@gmail.com>> - 2025-01-16 14:10 +0100
Re: smart plugs??? Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2025-01-17 16:51 +0000
Re: smart plugs??? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-01-16 22:24 -0700
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-18 11:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <aa7fca7d-43e0-4238-cf70-58f99fb6a731@example.net> |
| In reply to | #64537 |
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 10:45:41 +0100, D wrote: > >> A free range cat? Do you ever have problems with ticks? Every summer in >> the country house when I was young, the neighbours cat would more or >> less move in with us since the food was better than the dry food he got >> at his home. But sometimes it would happen that I would read, and the >> cat wanted petting. So I petted the cat while reading, then look at my >> hand to discover ticks crawling there. So the cat brought us rich gifts >> in the form of ticks and the occasional dead (or alive) mice. > > No, I've never seen tics on the cat. I've picked them up hiking but not > around home. The local version is the Rocky Mountain Wood Tick and true to > its name seems to prefer brushy areas. I don't think the cat goes out to > the tree line. There be dragons there. > Ahh... smart cat! And very convenient! I read there's some kind of collar you can buy for cats that has some chemical that spreads throughout the fur and repels ticks. I do not know how effective it is, so caveta emptor!
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-18 11:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vmg1re$ofht$12@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #64556 |
On 18/01/2025 10:38, D wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote: > >> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 10:45:41 +0100, D wrote: >> >>> A free range cat? Do you ever have problems with ticks? Every summer in >>> the country house when I was young, the neighbours cat would more or >>> less move in with us since the food was better than the dry food he got >>> at his home. But sometimes it would happen that I would read, and the >>> cat wanted petting. So I petted the cat while reading, then look at my >>> hand to discover ticks crawling there. So the cat brought us rich gifts >>> in the form of ticks and the occasional dead (or alive) mice. >> >> No, I've never seen tics on the cat. I've picked them up hiking but not >> around home. The local version is the Rocky Mountain Wood Tick and >> true to >> its name seems to prefer brushy areas. I don't think the cat goes out to >> the tree line. There be dragons there. >> > > Ahh... smart cat! And very convenient! I read there's some kind of > collar you can buy for cats that has some chemical that spreads > throughout the fur and repels ticks. I do not know how effective it is, > so caveta emptor! Its pretty good. But so is spraying them,. They hate it, but that works too -- "It was a lot more fun being 20 in the 70's that it is being 70 in the 20's" Joew Walsh
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-18 18:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <aaefb2ac-7b5e-417c-5505-e1ad0c195162@example.net> |
| In reply to | #64570 |
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 18/01/2025 10:38, D wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 10:45:41 +0100, D wrote: >>> >>>> A free range cat? Do you ever have problems with ticks? Every summer in >>>> the country house when I was young, the neighbours cat would more or >>>> less move in with us since the food was better than the dry food he got >>>> at his home. But sometimes it would happen that I would read, and the >>>> cat wanted petting. So I petted the cat while reading, then look at my >>>> hand to discover ticks crawling there. So the cat brought us rich gifts >>>> in the form of ticks and the occasional dead (or alive) mice. >>> >>> No, I've never seen tics on the cat. I've picked them up hiking but not >>> around home. The local version is the Rocky Mountain Wood Tick and true to >>> its name seems to prefer brushy areas. I don't think the cat goes out to >>> the tree line. There be dragons there. >>> >> >> Ahh... smart cat! And very convenient! I read there's some kind of collar >> you can buy for cats that has some chemical that spreads throughout the fur >> and repels ticks. I do not know how effective it is, so caveta emptor! > > Its pretty good. > > But so is spraying them,. They hate it, but that works too Could be a good punishment for when they have been naughty?
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-18 19:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lv2c9uFouuaU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #64570 |
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 11:04:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Its pretty good. > > But so is spraying them,. They hate it, but that works too I used to hold flea clinics when we had several cats. If you pick them up by the scruff of the neck like a mother cat they are immobilized and you can spray them down. Their eyes aren't immobilized and they are promising to kill you when you put them down.
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 11:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <30ed1626-f281-becd-ebe5-4a08d34adca2@example.net> |
| In reply to | #64585 |
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 11:04:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > > >> Its pretty good. >> >> But so is spraying them,. They hate it, but that works too > > I used to hold flea clinics when we had several cats. If you pick them up > by the scruff of the neck like a mother cat they are immobilized and you > can spray them down. Their eyes aren't immobilized and they are promising > to kill you when you put them down. > Ahh... didn't know that! Did they ever kill anyone when you put them down? ;) In my experience, cats never forget, so doing something like that can erase trust quickly and it takes a long time to rebuild, sometimes longer than a life time.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 18:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lv4vb1F7e8lU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #64595 |
On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 11:38:46 +0100, D wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote: > >> On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 11:04:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >> >>> Its pretty good. >>> >>> But so is spraying them,. They hate it, but that works too >> >> I used to hold flea clinics when we had several cats. If you pick them >> up by the scruff of the neck like a mother cat they are immobilized and >> you can spray them down. Their eyes aren't immobilized and they are >> promising to kill you when you put them down. >> >> > Ahh... didn't know that! Did they ever kill anyone when you put them > down? > ;) > No, they went on about their business. > In my experience, cats never forget, so doing something like that can > erase trust quickly and it takes a long time to rebuild, sometimes > longer than a life time. I currently feed two. One has been coming around for a couple of years and the other showed up this summer. In both cases it took a long time before I could get close enough to pet them. Neither like sudden moves nor will they come into the house. The older one did come in once to look around but the other won't cross the threshold. I've no ideas what their histories are but I don't think they were good.
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 23:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <551fd07a-f6de-2a34-eff8-87369075a077@example.net> |
| In reply to | #64609 |
On Sun, 19 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 11:38:46 +0100, D wrote: > >> On Sat, 18 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 11:04:14 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Its pretty good. >>>> >>>> But so is spraying them,. They hate it, but that works too >>> >>> I used to hold flea clinics when we had several cats. If you pick them >>> up by the scruff of the neck like a mother cat they are immobilized and >>> you can spray them down. Their eyes aren't immobilized and they are >>> promising to kill you when you put them down. >>> >>> >> Ahh... didn't know that! Did they ever kill anyone when you put them >> down? >> ;) >> > > No, they went on about their business. > >> In my experience, cats never forget, so doing something like that can >> erase trust quickly and it takes a long time to rebuild, sometimes >> longer than a life time. > > I currently feed two. One has been coming around for a couple of years and > the other showed up this summer. In both cases it took a long time before > I could get close enough to pet them. Neither like sudden moves nor will > they come into the house. The older one did come in once to look around > but the other won't cross the threshold. > > I've no ideas what their histories are but I don't think they were good. I think, like vampires, the trick is to invite them in first! ;)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-20 01:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lv5oskFb777U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #64615 |
On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 23:04:11 +0100, D wrote: > I think, like vampires, the trick is to invite them in first! I just opened the door and she came in. She may be reconsidering the outdoor cat thing when it's headed to 4 below Fahrenheit. A little house with a heating pad only goes so far. I think the other cat has a crawl space staked out. Last year when it was 20 below she disappeared for a week.
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-20 10:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5d27c730-19b2-61a4-a07e-5020495b502c@example.net> |
| In reply to | #64623 |
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 23:04:11 +0100, D wrote: > > >> I think, like vampires, the trick is to invite them in first! > > I just opened the door and she came in. She may be reconsidering the > outdoor cat thing when it's headed to 4 below Fahrenheit. A little house > with a heating pad only goes so far. > > I think the other cat has a crawl space staked out. Last year when it was > 20 below she disappeared for a week. > Could it be a hidden corner of your garage or attic?
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-18 19:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lv2c38FouuaU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #64556 |
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 11:38:46 +0100, D wrote: > Ahh... smart cat! And very convenient! I read there's some kind of > collar you can buy for cats that has some chemical that spreads > throughout the fur and repels ticks. I do not know how effective it is, > so caveta emptor! I use a permethrin spray on my clothing during tick season. It doesn't repel ticks but fries their nervous system. It's also used for dogs but cats can't break it down as rapidly as other mammals. Fipronil is used for cats and can be sprayed on. It's widely used and is suspected to be a factor in bee colony collapse however. A collar for an outdoor cat isn't a good idea. If it's loose enough so they can get out of it if it snags it's loose enough they will paw it off in short order. The local subreddit often has hot arguments about cats. Someone will post about a collarless cat who must be 'lost'. People more familiar with cats will tell them to just leave the cat alone. There probably are some lifetime house cats that can get lost but outdoor semi-feral cats have their own agenda.
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 11:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1dedffd4-cf09-97d2-e010-95261a3af39b@example.net> |
| In reply to | #64584 |
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 11:38:46 +0100, D wrote: > >> Ahh... smart cat! And very convenient! I read there's some kind of >> collar you can buy for cats that has some chemical that spreads >> throughout the fur and repels ticks. I do not know how effective it is, >> so caveta emptor! > > I use a permethrin spray on my clothing during tick season. It doesn't > repel ticks but fries their nervous system. It's also used for dogs but > cats can't break it down as rapidly as other mammals. Ahh... it works! Surely it must be forbidden in europe then? ;) I will remember this! > Fipronil is used for cats and can be sprayed on. It's widely used and is > suspected to be a factor in bee colony collapse however. A collar for an > outdoor cat isn't a good idea. If it's loose enough so they can get out of > it if it snags it's loose enough they will paw it off in short order. > > The local subreddit often has hot arguments about cats. Someone will post > about a collarless cat who must be 'lost'. People more familiar with cats > will tell them to just leave the cat alone. There probably are some > lifetime house cats that can get lost but outdoor semi-feral cats have > their own agenda. Yes, cats are weird. I only like 1/10 cats or so. Much more of a dog person. But the 1/10 cats tend to be alright. Once upon a time I trained a cat to get off my bed on command. He was very smart, but stubborn. I commanded him to leave the bed, and he would quickly and efficiently obey and look a bit like "Oops, sorry!". I would leave the room, come back 20 minutes later, and he would be on the bed again. ;) Due to a fall, he has a short tail, the doctor apparently had to cut part of it off for some reason. This affected his balance, so sometimes he would misjudge things and fall down. Then he would alternately look ashamed of himself, or he would look very very similar to "f*ck you" when the humans around where laughing at him. Amazing personality, very cute! It was a cornish rex. They are fairly ok for people allergic to cats. I would still get allergic reactions if I would sniff him, but as long as I didn't do that, I only felt something if I petted him and forgot to wash my hands and scratched my eye or something like that. Highly recommended cat!
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| From | Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 14:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <v20qojtdbc562gcqtkqiscmpug4rb3v7r6@joergwalther.my-fqdn.de> |
| In reply to | #64594 |
D wrote: >> I use a permethrin spray on my clothing during tick season. It doesn't >> repel ticks but fries their nervous system. It's also used for dogs but >> cats can't break it down as rapidly as other mammals. > >Ahh... it works! Surely it must be forbidden in europe then? ;) I will >remember this! It is allowed in Germany, it is used to treat scabies on humans, and there are lotions which you can put on your cat/dog, which make them poisonous for all sorts of biting insects. -jw- -- And now for something completely different...
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-19 18:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bfbjP.556684$FOb4.192534@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #64594 |
On 2025-01-19, D <nospam@example.net> wrote: > Due to a fall, he has a short tail, the doctor apparently had to cut part > of it off for some reason. This affected his balance, so sometimes he > would misjudge things and fall down. Then he would alternately look > ashamed of himself, or he would look very very similar to "f*ck you" when > the humans around where laughing at him. Many cats I've seen will immediately start licking themselves, with an attitude of "Nothing happened. You didn't see it." -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-18 00:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <QzCiP.1655286$bYV2.1613313@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #64509 |
On 2025-01-17, D <nospam@example.net> wrote: > I do not like ticks. They remind me of politicians and I would not be > displeased if they all disappeared. The word "politics" derives from "poly", as in many, and "ticks", as in blood-sucking parasites. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-18 11:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <a32b17c2-9b8f-2704-a369-f8221ba79575@example.net> |
| In reply to | #64545 |
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On Sat, 18 Jan 2025, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-01-17, D <nospam@example.net> wrote: > >> I do not like ticks. They remind me of politicians and I would not be >> displeased if they all disappeared. > > The word "politics" derives from "poly", as in many, > and "ticks", as in blood-sucking parasites. > Touché! You know the drill... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHCBiNIjgY4 !
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| From | Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-17 18:34 +0000 |
| Subject | Fitbit by Google (Re: smart plugs???) |
| Message-ID | <slrnvol8l8.kkq3.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> |
| In reply to | #64487 |
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 02:53:38 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote: >> I just discovered that in the last two weeks, as I replaced by Fitbit >> Charge 5 with a new Charge 6. It somehow would not show me the time when >> I had left my phone in the office while going out to get the mail from >> the mailbox at the driveway. Recovered once I was in Blluetooth range. >> Some datapoints can sync between the watch and the phone over BlueTooth, >> but "deeper stuff" like sleep analysis does indeed require connection to >> the Google servers. On 2025-01-17, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > Synching for me often shows a network connection is necessary and may > require multiple restarts of the app. It's not very smooth. The latest > feature, 'cardio load', has many people trying to figure out how it works > and the prompts to get your lazy butt in gear are not appreciated. Cardio Load seems to be designed to induce people to "upgrade" to a paid Premium subscription. But like some other features releated to "exercise", it does not work with the machinery I use at the gym: Elliptical, Stairmaster and Treadmill. Tracking exercise insists that you must be moving, as measured by GPS, and the GPS map takes over the screen and prevents you from seeing heart rate, which is the most useful measurement in real time for me.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-17 20:40 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Fitbit by Google (Re: smart plugs???) |
| Message-ID | <luvtieFcj10U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #64533 |
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 18:34:16 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote: > Cardio Load seems to be designed to induce people to "upgrade" to a paid > Premium subscription. But like some other features releated to > "exercise", it does not work with the machinery I use at the gym: > Elliptical, Stairmaster and Treadmill. Tracking exercise insists that > you must be moving, as measured by GPS, and the GPS map takes over the > screen and prevents you from seeing heart rate, which is the most useful > measurement in real time for me. That's the conclusion on the Fitbit subreddit. Half an hour on the stair stepper using the cardio feature to keep my HR up yielded 0 cardio load. A half hour walk outside at a lower average HR did better. I don't look at the watch or app when I'm moving so it's all after action data.
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-17 10:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <39a0dfe8-e231-e0f1-9e3d-7005b9eb6c63@example.net> |
| In reply to | #64485 |
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, Lars Poulsen wrote: > I hate Alexa. We had an Echo in the house for a bit, and it was forever > listining in on our conversations and breaking in on them. That got her > banished. What!? As in "I cannot do that Dave"-stuff? Scary! I would never dream of having a device that constantly sends audio to google & co in my house. On the other hand, I live in an apartment, so automating light switches and other stuff is not meaningful, since it quicker and easier to just use the light switch. Also there's no heating, blinds or other stuff really to control. I do see the value if you have a big house. I can then see where it might make sense to optimize some parameters of the house. But I'd ideally like something self-hosted for that. >> It may change as more companies realize the cloud is costing them a lot of >> money particularly for AWS or other commercial providers. Some have went >> back to running their own servers. > > I never understood how any business - large or small - could be > comfortable having their financial information or their proprietary > technical data on a cloud server. Quickbooks online would seem to be a You are a wise man Lars! My companies finances are on my laptop, on my backup server, and at my accountant. They have sworn on the bible, that it is not in google or in a cloud service, but I don't trust them. On the other hand, the selection of accountants was very bad, so I no choice but to trust them at the moment. The positive thing is that sometimes when they share information with me, they share a Nextcloud link, so that's at least something! =D > tempting target for Intuit data mining. For that matter, I worry about > having my personal tax return submitted to IRS through Intuit's servers > (TurboTax) - or for that matter HR Block's. But I pray that there are > data protection laws surrounding this that they can't bypass with a > click-wrap user agreement. Imagine how lucrative it would be to sell > mortgages, life insurances or investment packages to people based on > reading their annual Form 1040. Yes! I read an article about modern scammer practices. Apparently they are modern people and you can buy data, data cleaning, voice operators, money launderes, etc. "as a service". Either pay by the hour or with % of the money you manage to steal. Fascinating! >> Meanwhile it is annoying. My Fitbit device won't synch with the >> application on the phone without an internet connection. Leaving aside I >> don't enjoy being radio-collared by Google I sometimes have to jockey the >> phone around to get a connection. > > I just discovered that in the last two weeks, as I replaced by Fitbit > Charge 5 with a new Charge 6. It somehow would not show me the time > when I had left my phone in the office while going out to get the mail > from the mailbox at the driveway. Recovered once I was in Blluetooth > range. Some datapoints can sync between the watch and the phone over > BlueTooth, but "deeper stuff" like sleep analysis does indeed require > connection to the Google servers. I say... drop the fitbit and take a walk and do some pushups. Then you'll be find, and you will have one less device to worry about! =)
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-17 10:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vmdbtc$8tl$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #64508 |
On 17/01/2025 09:40, D wrote: > I do see the value if you have a big house. I can then see where it > might make > sense to optimize some parameters of the house. > > But I'd ideally like something self-hosted for that. Remember smart tech is for stupid people -- Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people. But Marxism is the crack cocaine.
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-17 16:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <c1075682-3260-93b6-42e6-66d202463e78@example.net> |
| In reply to | #64516 |
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 17/01/2025 09:40, D wrote: >> I do see the value if you have a big house. I can then see where it might >> make >> sense to optimize some parameters of the house. >> >> But I'd ideally like something self-hosted for that. > > Remember smart tech is for stupid people Would that mean that stupid tech is for smart people? ;)
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