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Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE

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  Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-22 00:19 -0500
    Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-01-22 21:00 +0100
      Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-22 19:16 -0500
        Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 16:44 +0100
          Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 16:40 +0000
            Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 22:05 +0100
              Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-24 01:29 -0500
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-24 10:33 +0100
                  Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-24 20:17 +0000
                    Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-24 23:23 +0100
                      Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-25 04:24 +0000
                        Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 02:18 -0500
                          Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:32 +0100
                            Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 12:03 +0000
                              Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 18:38 +0100
                                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 18:05 +0000
                                  Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:36 +0100
                  Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 00:34 -0500
                    Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 10:57 +0100
                    Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 11:44 +0000
                    Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-25 17:39 +0000
                      Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 18:06 +0000
                      Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:31 +0100
                        Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 23:42 +0000
                          Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 11:35 +0100
                        Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 21:16 -0500
                          Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 12:58 +0100
                        Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-26 05:18 +0000
                          Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-26 03:22 -0500
                        Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 09:50 +0000
                          Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 15:31 +0100
                            Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-26 18:32 +0000
                              Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-26 20:13 +0000
                                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:02 +0100
                                  Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-27 21:42 +0000
                                    Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 10:21 +0100
                                      Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-28 09:59 +0000
                                        Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 16:23 +0100
                                          Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-28 15:36 +0000
                                            Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 21:38 +0100
                              Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 09:51 +0100
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 09:54 +0000
                  Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 11:48 +0000
                  Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 00:49 -0500
                    Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:01 +0100
              Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 11:29 +0000
                Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-24 19:20 +0100
                  Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-25 00:12 +0000
                    Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 10:42 +0100
              Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-24 20:11 +0000

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#64789

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2025-01-25 17:39 +0000
Message-ID<vn37l7$2u5gf$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#64751
186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
> On 1/24/25 4:33 AM, D wrote:
> 
>> First of all, no one in power even knows what usenet is, so no one 
>> will ever look.  Second, most of the nasty stuff can easily be 
>> blocked or filtered.  Third, the responsibility of the post is the 
>> posters and not yours (at least in my jurisdiction).  At _worst_ 
>> your responsibility is to remove the content from your servers, if 
>> asked.  Otherwise, nothing to worry about.
> 
>   "Survival through obscurity" sometimes works - but sometimes 
>   doesn't.  Just takes ONE little witch-hunter looking for a 
>   promotion to expose a dreaded case of Unregulated Thoughts .......

Indeed, and the witch-hunter's are incentivised to go looking for those 
to expose because that's their collateral they use to measure their 
value among the other witch-hunters in their social group.

It's the very reason why HOA's are so awful in the US.  The busy-bodies 
(i.e., the witch-hunter's who want to control everyone's lives) are the 
only ones who are attracted to the job of "HOA board member", and once 
they worm their way in, then things like "your trashcan, when stored, 
must be no more than 4 inches and no less than two inches from the left 
edge of your garage door" (a US HOA has rules almost this ludicrous, 
and they actually hire "snitches" to do nothing more than drive around 
the association property all day looking for any 'rules violations' to 
cite people for).

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#64793

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-01-25 18:06 +0000
Message-ID<vn396m$2ugqp$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#64789
On 25/01/2025 17:39, Rich wrote:
> It's the very reason why HOA's are so awful in the US.  The busy-bodies
> (i.e., the witch-hunter's who want to control everyone's lives) are the
> only ones who are attracted to the job of "HOA board member", and once
> they worm their way in, then things like "your trashcan, when stored,
> must be no more than 4 inches and no less than two inches from the left
> edge of your garage door" (a US HOA has rules almost this ludicrous,
> and they actually hire "snitches" to do nothing more than drive around
> the association property all day looking for any 'rules violations' to
> cite people for).

If there is anything worse than a 'concerned citizen' I have yet to 
experience it.

-- 
In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act.

- George Orwell

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#64801

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-25 23:31 +0100
Message-ID<141403cc-bf43-03d8-5f25-f9cd8060455a@example.net>
In reply to#64789

On Sat, 25 Jan 2025, Rich wrote:

> 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>> On 1/24/25 4:33 AM, D wrote:
>>
>>> First of all, no one in power even knows what usenet is, so no one
>>> will ever look.  Second, most of the nasty stuff can easily be
>>> blocked or filtered.  Third, the responsibility of the post is the
>>> posters and not yours (at least in my jurisdiction).  At _worst_
>>> your responsibility is to remove the content from your servers, if
>>> asked.  Otherwise, nothing to worry about.
>>
>>   "Survival through obscurity" sometimes works - but sometimes
>>   doesn't.  Just takes ONE little witch-hunter looking for a
>>   promotion to expose a dreaded case of Unregulated Thoughts .......
>
> Indeed, and the witch-hunter's are incentivised to go looking for those
> to expose because that's their collateral they use to measure their
> value among the other witch-hunters in their social group.
>
> It's the very reason why HOA's are so awful in the US.  The busy-bodies
> (i.e., the witch-hunter's who want to control everyone's lives) are the
> only ones who are attracted to the job of "HOA board member", and once
> they worm their way in, then things like "your trashcan, when stored,
> must be no more than 4 inches and no less than two inches from the left
> edge of your garage door" (a US HOA has rules almost this ludicrous,
> and they actually hire "snitches" to do nothing more than drive around
> the association property all day looking for any 'rules violations' to
> cite people for).

What's a HOA? On this theme, I found this video to be quite horrible, and 
at the same time, inspiring. It is about 5 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ltWVmsbJxc DEI must DIE.

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#64809

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-25 23:42 +0000
Message-ID<lvlb80FqouhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#64801
On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 23:31:55 +0100, D wrote:

> What's a HOA? On this theme, I found this video to be quite horrible,
> and at the same time, inspiring. It is about 5 minutes.

Homeowners Association. They're usually implemented in subdivisions or 
gated communities. They are mini-KGBs with block wardens to enforce vital 
regulations on the length of grass, color of trim, acceptable hours for 
outdoor barbecues, number of vehicles, and so forth. 
 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ltWVmsbJxc DEI must DIE.

They have a valid point. There were a lot of sewers, knitters, and 
embroiderers  in my family. Each new arrival was gifted with a handmade 
doll sort of like a golliwog. I don't think it impugns on my sexual 
identity to say that when I was 2 or so I loved my little 'Nigger Doll'. 
Yeah, that was the official title for the design.

In much later years Karine Jean-Pierre's curly black locks and head 
stuffed with cotton batting reminded me of that childhood toy.



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#64836

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-26 11:35 +0100
Message-ID<3f23b887-549a-ff6d-5e4c-35415a42d4ea@example.net>
In reply to#64809

On Sun, 25 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 23:31:55 +0100, D wrote:
>
>> What's a HOA? On this theme, I found this video to be quite horrible,
>> and at the same time, inspiring. It is about 5 minutes.
>
> Homeowners Association. They're usually implemented in subdivisions or
> gated communities. They are mini-KGBs with block wardens to enforce vital
> regulations on the length of grass, color of trim, acceptable hours for
> outdoor barbecues, number of vehicles, and so forth.

Ahhh... ok, I know this thoroughly. It is the default swedish governance 
system for apartments. Very nasty! That is one reason why I do not want 
to sell my swedish apartment. The people there are actually ok. I have 
heard so many horror stories, I do not dare to buy another apartment.

The sad thing is though, that in sweden the HOA has veto on if you are 
allowed to rent out your apartment or not. They made it clear that after 6 
years, they will not be renewing my permission to rent out.

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ltWVmsbJxc DEI must DIE.
>
> They have a valid point. There were a lot of sewers, knitters, and
> embroiderers  in my family. Each new arrival was gifted with a handmade
> doll sort of like a golliwog. I don't think it impugns on my sexual
> identity to say that when I was 2 or so I loved my little 'Nigger Doll'.
> Yeah, that was the official title for the design.

Nothing bad about a nigger doll. Only team Xiden can find the energy to 
get upset over something like that.

> In much later years Karine Jean-Pierre's curly black locks and head
> stuffed with cotton batting reminded me of that childhood toy.

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#64815

From"186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
Date2025-01-25 21:16 -0500
Message-ID<AKmcnSc1HPOKBgj6nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#64801
On 1/25/25 5:31 PM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025, Rich wrote:
> 
>> 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>> On 1/24/25 4:33 AM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>> First of all, no one in power even knows what usenet is, so no one
>>>> will ever look.  Second, most of the nasty stuff can easily be
>>>> blocked or filtered.  Third, the responsibility of the post is the
>>>> posters and not yours (at least in my jurisdiction).  At _worst_
>>>> your responsibility is to remove the content from your servers, if
>>>> asked.  Otherwise, nothing to worry about.
>>>
>>>   "Survival through obscurity" sometimes works - but sometimes
>>>   doesn't.  Just takes ONE little witch-hunter looking for a
>>>   promotion to expose a dreaded case of Unregulated Thoughts .......
>>
>> Indeed, and the witch-hunter's are incentivised to go looking for those
>> to expose because that's their collateral they use to measure their
>> value among the other witch-hunters in their social group.
>>
>> It's the very reason why HOA's are so awful in the US.  The busy-bodies
>> (i.e., the witch-hunter's who want to control everyone's lives) are the
>> only ones who are attracted to the job of "HOA board member", and once
>> they worm their way in, then things like "your trashcan, when stored,
>> must be no more than 4 inches and no less than two inches from the left
>> edge of your garage door" (a US HOA has rules almost this ludicrous,
>> and they actually hire "snitches" to do nothing more than drive around
>> the association property all day looking for any 'rules violations' to
>> cite people for).
> 
> What's a HOA? On this theme, I found this video to be quite horrible, 
> and at the same time, inspiring. It is about 5 minutes.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ltWVmsbJxc DEI must DIE.

   HOAs are what the wannabe NAZIs join so they can
   sub-micro-manage and persecute their neighbors
   all legal like ....

   Never EVER buy a home in the USA somewhere there's
   a HOA. You're better off in some converted cow barn
   five miles out of town.

   HOAs should be illegal ... but supplication to them
   is often in small-print on the purchase/lease papers.

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#64840

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-26 12:58 +0100
Message-ID<f61c4ac1-f13a-58b8-1c06-9064c5c3895e@example.net>
In reply to#64815

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On Sat, 25 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

> On 1/25/25 5:31 PM, D wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025, Rich wrote:
>> 
>>> 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>>> On 1/24/25 4:33 AM, D wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> First of all, no one in power even knows what usenet is, so no one
>>>>> will ever look.  Second, most of the nasty stuff can easily be
>>>>> blocked or filtered.  Third, the responsibility of the post is the
>>>>> posters and not yours (at least in my jurisdiction).  At _worst_
>>>>> your responsibility is to remove the content from your servers, if
>>>>> asked.  Otherwise, nothing to worry about.
>>>> 
>>>>   "Survival through obscurity" sometimes works - but sometimes
>>>>   doesn't.  Just takes ONE little witch-hunter looking for a
>>>>   promotion to expose a dreaded case of Unregulated Thoughts .......
>>> 
>>> Indeed, and the witch-hunter's are incentivised to go looking for those
>>> to expose because that's their collateral they use to measure their
>>> value among the other witch-hunters in their social group.
>>> 
>>> It's the very reason why HOA's are so awful in the US.  The busy-bodies
>>> (i.e., the witch-hunter's who want to control everyone's lives) are the
>>> only ones who are attracted to the job of "HOA board member", and once
>>> they worm their way in, then things like "your trashcan, when stored,
>>> must be no more than 4 inches and no less than two inches from the left
>>> edge of your garage door" (a US HOA has rules almost this ludicrous,
>>> and they actually hire "snitches" to do nothing more than drive around
>>> the association property all day looking for any 'rules violations' to
>>> cite people for).
>> 
>> What's a HOA? On this theme, I found this video to be quite horrible, and 
>> at the same time, inspiring. It is about 5 minutes.
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ltWVmsbJxc DEI must DIE.
>
>  HOAs are what the wannabe NAZIs join so they can
>  sub-micro-manage and persecute their neighbors
>  all legal like ....
>
>  Never EVER buy a home in the USA somewhere there's
>  a HOA. You're better off in some converted cow barn
>  five miles out of town.

Got it! I have enough experience in sweden with this concept. It is not a 
pleasant thing.

>  HOAs should be illegal ... but supplication to them
>  is often in small-print on the purchase/lease papers.

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#64827

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2025-01-26 05:18 +0000
Message-ID<vn4gj6$3f3op$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#64801
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025, Rich wrote:
> 
>> 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>> On 1/24/25 4:33 AM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>> First of all, no one in power even knows what usenet is, so no one
>>>> will ever look.  Second, most of the nasty stuff can easily be
>>>> blocked or filtered.  Third, the responsibility of the post is the
>>>> posters and not yours (at least in my jurisdiction).  At _worst_
>>>> your responsibility is to remove the content from your servers, if
>>>> asked.  Otherwise, nothing to worry about.
>>>
>>>   "Survival through obscurity" sometimes works - but sometimes
>>>   doesn't.  Just takes ONE little witch-hunter looking for a
>>>   promotion to expose a dreaded case of Unregulated Thoughts .......
>>
>> Indeed, and the witch-hunter's are incentivised to go looking for those
>> to expose because that's their collateral they use to measure their
>> value among the other witch-hunters in their social group.
>>
>> It's the very reason why HOA's are so awful in the US.  The busy-bodies
>> (i.e., the witch-hunter's who want to control everyone's lives) are the
>> only ones who are attracted to the job of "HOA board member", and once
>> they worm their way in, then things like "your trashcan, when stored,
>> must be no more than 4 inches and no less than two inches from the left
>> edge of your garage door" (a US HOA has rules almost this ludicrous,
>> and they actually hire "snitches" to do nothing more than drive around
>> the association property all day looking for any 'rules violations' to
>> cite people for).
> 
> What's a HOA? On this theme, I found this video to be quite horrible, and 
> at the same time, inspiring. It is about 5 minutes.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ltWVmsbJxc DEI must DIE.


Home Owners Association 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeowner_association)

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#64828

From"186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
Date2025-01-26 03:22 -0500
Message-ID<7GydnYpjN8hObQj6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#64827
On 1/26/25 12:18 AM, Rich wrote:
> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025, Rich wrote:
>>
>>> 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>>> On 1/24/25 4:33 AM, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> First of all, no one in power even knows what usenet is, so no one
>>>>> will ever look.  Second, most of the nasty stuff can easily be
>>>>> blocked or filtered.  Third, the responsibility of the post is the
>>>>> posters and not yours (at least in my jurisdiction).  At _worst_
>>>>> your responsibility is to remove the content from your servers, if
>>>>> asked.  Otherwise, nothing to worry about.
>>>>
>>>>    "Survival through obscurity" sometimes works - but sometimes
>>>>    doesn't.  Just takes ONE little witch-hunter looking for a
>>>>    promotion to expose a dreaded case of Unregulated Thoughts .......
>>>
>>> Indeed, and the witch-hunter's are incentivised to go looking for those
>>> to expose because that's their collateral they use to measure their
>>> value among the other witch-hunters in their social group.
>>>
>>> It's the very reason why HOA's are so awful in the US.  The busy-bodies
>>> (i.e., the witch-hunter's who want to control everyone's lives) are the
>>> only ones who are attracted to the job of "HOA board member", and once
>>> they worm their way in, then things like "your trashcan, when stored,
>>> must be no more than 4 inches and no less than two inches from the left
>>> edge of your garage door" (a US HOA has rules almost this ludicrous,
>>> and they actually hire "snitches" to do nothing more than drive around
>>> the association property all day looking for any 'rules violations' to
>>> cite people for).
>>
>> What's a HOA? On this theme, I found this video to be quite horrible, and
>> at the same time, inspiring. It is about 5 minutes.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ltWVmsbJxc DEI must DIE.
> 
> 
> Home Owners Association
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeowner_association)


   Just search on "EVIL" ...  :-)

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#64835

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-01-26 09:50 +0000
Message-ID<vn50hp$3k0li$10@dont-email.me>
In reply to#64801
On 25/01/2025 22:31, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025, Rich wrote:
> 
>> 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>> On 1/24/25 4:33 AM, D wrote:
>>>
>>>> First of all, no one in power even knows what usenet is, so no one
>>>> will ever look.  Second, most of the nasty stuff can easily be
>>>> blocked or filtered.  Third, the responsibility of the post is the
>>>> posters and not yours (at least in my jurisdiction).  At _worst_
>>>> your responsibility is to remove the content from your servers, if
>>>> asked.  Otherwise, nothing to worry about.
>>>
>>>   "Survival through obscurity" sometimes works - but sometimes
>>>   doesn't.  Just takes ONE little witch-hunter looking for a
>>>   promotion to expose a dreaded case of Unregulated Thoughts .......
>>
>> Indeed, and the witch-hunter's are incentivised to go looking for those
>> to expose because that's their collateral they use to measure their
>> value among the other witch-hunters in their social group.
>>
>> It's the very reason why HOA's are so awful in the US.  The busy-bodies
>> (i.e., the witch-hunter's who want to control everyone's lives) are the
>> only ones who are attracted to the job of "HOA board member", and once
>> they worm their way in, then things like "your trashcan, when stored,
>> must be no more than 4 inches and no less than two inches from the left
>> edge of your garage door" (a US HOA has rules almost this ludicrous,
>> and they actually hire "snitches" to do nothing more than drive around
>> the association property all day looking for any 'rules violations' to
>> cite people for).
> 
> What's a HOA? On this theme, I found this video to be quite horrible, 
> and at the same time, inspiring. It is about 5 minutes.
> 
Karen factories. Home Owners Associations.


> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ltWVmsbJxc DEI must DIE.
> 
> 

-- 
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to 
rule.
– H. L. Mencken, American journalist, 1880-1956

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#64854

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-26 15:31 +0100
Message-ID<c4820260-c27c-1d4e-d504-5a7656bac5ba@example.net>
In reply to#64835

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 25/01/2025 22:31, D wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025, Rich wrote:
>> 
>>> 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>>> On 1/24/25 4:33 AM, D wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> First of all, no one in power even knows what usenet is, so no one
>>>>> will ever look.  Second, most of the nasty stuff can easily be
>>>>> blocked or filtered.  Third, the responsibility of the post is the
>>>>> posters and not yours (at least in my jurisdiction).  At _worst_
>>>>> your responsibility is to remove the content from your servers, if
>>>>> asked.  Otherwise, nothing to worry about.
>>>> 
>>>>   "Survival through obscurity" sometimes works - but sometimes
>>>>   doesn't.  Just takes ONE little witch-hunter looking for a
>>>>   promotion to expose a dreaded case of Unregulated Thoughts .......
>>> 
>>> Indeed, and the witch-hunter's are incentivised to go looking for those
>>> to expose because that's their collateral they use to measure their
>>> value among the other witch-hunters in their social group.
>>> 
>>> It's the very reason why HOA's are so awful in the US.  The busy-bodies
>>> (i.e., the witch-hunter's who want to control everyone's lives) are the
>>> only ones who are attracted to the job of "HOA board member", and once
>>> they worm their way in, then things like "your trashcan, when stored,
>>> must be no more than 4 inches and no less than two inches from the left
>>> edge of your garage door" (a US HOA has rules almost this ludicrous,
>>> and they actually hire "snitches" to do nothing more than drive around
>>> the association property all day looking for any 'rules violations' to
>>> cite people for).
>> 
>> What's a HOA? On this theme, I found this video to be quite horrible, and 
>> at the same time, inspiring. It is about 5 minutes.
>> 
> Karen factories. Home Owners Associations.

Beautiful description. I will shamelessly steal it!

>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ltWVmsbJxc DEI must DIE.
>> 
>> 
>
>

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#64858

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2025-01-26 18:32 +0000
Message-ID<vdvlP.1102391$aTp4.1092797@fx09.iad>
In reply to#64854
On 2025-01-26, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 25/01/2025 22:31, D wrote:
>> 
>>> What's a HOA? On this theme, I found this video to be quite
>>> horrible, and at the same time, inspiring. It is about 5 minutes.
>> 
>> Karen factories. Home Owners Associations.
>
> Beautiful description. I will shamelessly steal it!

That is a nice one.

Around here, they're known as "strata councils".

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#64864

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2025-01-26 20:13 +0000
Message-ID<vn651v$3dra$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#64858
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-01-26, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/01/2025 22:31, D wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What's a HOA? On this theme, I found this video to be quite
>>>> horrible, and at the same time, inspiring. It is about 5 minutes.
>>> 
>>> Karen factories. Home Owners Associations.
>>
>> Beautiful description. I will shamelessly steal it!
> 
> That is a nice one.
> 
> Around here, they're known as "strata councils".

I've always referred to them as "Gestapos" myself, but "Karen 
Factories" fits better with more modern usage and understanding.

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#64887

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-27 10:02 +0100
Message-ID<9fb51a42-ad0a-1eef-2dd8-fec5242ffe28@example.net>
In reply to#64864

On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, Rich wrote:

> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-26, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 25/01/2025 22:31, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What's a HOA? On this theme, I found this video to be quite
>>>>> horrible, and at the same time, inspiring. It is about 5 minutes.
>>>>
>>>> Karen factories. Home Owners Associations.
>>>
>>> Beautiful description. I will shamelessly steal it!
>>
>> That is a nice one.
>>
>> Around here, they're known as "strata councils".
>
> I've always referred to them as "Gestapos" myself, but "Karen
> Factories" fits better with more modern usage and understanding.
>

See, this is what fills me with hope for the US! Karen Factories should be 
loathed and hated instinctively!

In sweden, most people like the concept. Yuck! =(

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#64910

FromRich <rich@example.invalid>
Date2025-01-27 21:42 +0000
Message-ID<vn8ujh$18hr4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#64887
D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, Rich wrote:
> 
>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-26, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 25/01/2025 22:31, D wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What's a HOA? On this theme, I found this video to be quite
>>>>>> horrible, and at the same time, inspiring. It is about 5 minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Karen factories. Home Owners Associations.
>>>>
>>>> Beautiful description. I will shamelessly steal it!
>>>
>>> That is a nice one.
>>>
>>> Around here, they're known as "strata councils".
>>
>> I've always referred to them as "Gestapos" myself, but "Karen
>> Factories" fits better with more modern usage and understanding.
> 
> See, this is what fills me with hope for the US!  Karen Factories 
> should be loathed and hated instinctively!

Indeed, yes.

> In sweden, most people like the concept. Yuck! =(

You'll find that the 'Karens' who live in neigborhoods who are covered 
by Karen Factories also tend to like Karen Factories.

You'll also find a fair number of folks who have not had to endure the 
trouble that a Karen Factory will create that think they also like the 
concept.  Of course, they are thinking of it as "my neighbor won't be 
able to start a lard rendering plant or glue factory next door".  Once 
they buy in, and get trapped, they learn that reality is that the 
Karens are measuring the length of their grass blades with a ruler and 
fining them $862.00 for the blades being 0.020 inch longer than the 
"approved length".

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#64923

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-28 10:21 +0100
Message-ID<95f39bc7-5e05-ada9-e1ce-82dc23737c71@example.net>
In reply to#64910

On Mon, 27 Jan 2025, Rich wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, Rich wrote:
>>
>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-01-26, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25/01/2025 22:31, D wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's a HOA? On this theme, I found this video to be quite
>>>>>>> horrible, and at the same time, inspiring. It is about 5 minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Karen factories. Home Owners Associations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Beautiful description. I will shamelessly steal it!
>>>>
>>>> That is a nice one.
>>>>
>>>> Around here, they're known as "strata councils".
>>>
>>> I've always referred to them as "Gestapos" myself, but "Karen
>>> Factories" fits better with more modern usage and understanding.
>>
>> See, this is what fills me with hope for the US!  Karen Factories
>> should be loathed and hated instinctively!
>
> Indeed, yes.
>
>> In sweden, most people like the concept. Yuck! =(
>
> You'll find that the 'Karens' who live in neigborhoods who are covered
> by Karen Factories also tend to like Karen Factories.

Logically I can only conclude that all of sweden is a Karen Factory. ;)

> You'll also find a fair number of folks who have not had to endure the
> trouble that a Karen Factory will create that think they also like the
> concept.  Of course, they are thinking of it as "my neighbor won't be
> able to start a lard rendering plant or glue factory next door".  Once
> they buy in, and get trapped, they learn that reality is that the
> Karens are measuring the length of their grass blades with a ruler and
> fining them $862.00 for the blades being 0.020 inch longer than the
> "approved length".

Yuck! It would not be good for my health to have such a person close by. 
Sounds as if it could escalate to violence fairly quickly if a Karen tried 
to measure my grass blades.

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#64928

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-01-28 09:59 +0000
Message-ID<vna9q8$1oo3k$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#64923
On 28/01/2025 09:21, D wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Logically I can only conclude that all of sweden is a Karen Factory. ;)
> 

No, that would be Denmark



-- 
"Women actually are capable of being far more than the feminists will 
let them."


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#64929

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-28 16:23 +0100
Message-ID<941e8699-1a96-72c7-814b-22129b7014f1@example.net>
In reply to#64928

On Tue, 28 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 28/01/2025 09:21, D wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Logically I can only conclude that all of sweden is a Karen Factory. ;)
>> 
>
> No, that would be Denmark

You do have a point! ;)

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#64930

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-01-28 15:36 +0000
Message-ID<vnathu$1sjs4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#64929
On 28/01/2025 15:23, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 28 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 28/01/2025 09:21, D wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Logically I can only conclude that all of sweden is a Karen Factory. ;)
>>>
>>
>> No, that would be Denmark
> 
> You do have a point! ;)
Apparently Karen is a DANISH name...

"Karen is a female name of Danish origin. It originated with the Danes 
and the Greeks and is a diminutive of the more formal Katherine. Karen 
means "pure," which points to the wonderful innocence of childhood and 
the loving, pure nature baby embodies."

Yah well, no, fine!


-- 
There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale 
returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.

Mark Twain

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#64935

FromD <nospam@example.net>
Date2025-01-28 21:38 +0100
Message-ID<98a52f90-f352-e34b-958b-9b5fbfe1cf43@example.net>
In reply to#64930

On Tue, 28 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 28/01/2025 15:23, D wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 28 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> 
>>> On 28/01/2025 09:21, D wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Logically I can only conclude that all of sweden is a Karen Factory. ;)
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> No, that would be Denmark
>> 
>> You do have a point! ;)
> Apparently Karen is a DANISH name...
>
> "Karen is a female name of Danish origin. It originated with the Danes and 
> the Greeks and is a diminutive of the more formal Katherine. Karen means 
> "pure," which points to the wonderful innocence of childhood and the loving, 
> pure nature baby embodies."
>
> Yah well, no, fine!

Ahh.. so that's where it's from! I always wondered, since in swedish the 
name is Karin, so I always wondered where Karen came from.

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