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The boring Linux habit that saves machines

Started byTheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null>
First post2026-05-30 22:28 +0000
Last post2026-06-07 01:33 -0400
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  The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-30 22:28 +0000
    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-30 23:51 -0400
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 04:23 +0000
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 02:26 -0400
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 06:41 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 03:37 -0400
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 07:46 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 08:55 +0000
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 12:07 +0200
                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 10:14 +0000
                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 13:06 +0200
                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 11:12 +0000
                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:45 +0000
                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 05:13 -0400
                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 18:30 +0000
                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 20:49 +0200
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 02:00 -0400
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 09:07 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 02:11 -0400
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 09:10 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 02:15 -0400
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-06-01 12:20 +0300
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-01 09:38 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 02:20 -0400
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 11:08 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 23:58 -0400
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-04 11:47 +0000
                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 11:57 -0400
                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-05 12:53 +0000
                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-05 17:35 +0100
                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-05 16:42 +0000
                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 00:06 -0400
                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-06 10:35 +0100
                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 03:35 -0400
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 13:39 +0100
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 14:41 +0100
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 00:04 -0400
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:34 +0100
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 18:08 +0000
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 21:24 +0100
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 01:46 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 03:09 -0400
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:17 +0100
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 01:33 -0400
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:53 +0100
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 18:52 +0200
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 21:47 +0100
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 02:58 +0000
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 01:36 -0400
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:46 +0100
                                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:15 +0000
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 07:52 +0100
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:52 +0100
                                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-06-11 18:47 +0200
                                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 16:59 +0000
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 16:55 +0000
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 01:16 -0400
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:28 +0000
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:42 +0100
                                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 16:41 +0000
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:40 +0100
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:35 +0000
                                                    [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 09:06 +0100
                                                      Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 12:03 +0100
                                                        Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:44 +0000
                                                          Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-11 21:18 +0200
                                                      Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:40 +0000
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-10 19:22 +0000
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 21:48 +0100
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 00:57 -0400
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:27 +0000
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 18:28 +0000
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 02:54 -0400
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 01:27 -0400
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 10:57 +0200
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-06-07 08:00 -0700
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:35 +0100
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:48 +0000
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:53 +0100
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 08:26 +0100
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 23:06 -0400
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 00:11 -0400
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-09 17:42 +0000
                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-06 10:39 +0100
                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 03:44 -0400
                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 23:55 -0400
                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 09:40 +0000
                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:47 +0000
                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-07 13:58 +0200
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-07 20:40 +0000
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:39 +0000
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 23:00 -0400
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 04:36 +0000
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 02:30 -0400
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:19 +0100
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 23:53 -0400
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-08 14:23 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 02:28 -0400
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 18:24 +0000
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 02:40 -0400
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-10 19:17 +0000
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 00:56 -0400
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:24 +0000
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 18:08 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-08 22:42 +0200
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:45 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 01:44 +0000
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 03:08 -0400
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:07 +0200
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 01:03 -0400
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 10:43 +0200
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 10:52 +0200
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 00:33 -0400
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:03 +0000
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 02:42 -0400
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:26 +0000
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:31 +0200
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-09 18:31 +0000
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 03:16 -0400
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:54 +0100
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2026-06-08 21:46 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 04:50 +0000
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 03:16 -0400
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 08:49 +0100
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 01:48 -0400
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:11 +0200
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 01:32 -0400
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-10 05:38 +0000
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 10:49 +0200
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:08 +0000
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 00:31 +0000
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-11 03:31 +0000
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 04:36 +0000
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 08:37 +0100
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-11 19:02 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-09 18:31 +0000
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 02:54 -0400
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-08 14:12 +0000
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 18:08 +0000
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 01:30 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:15 +0200
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-09 18:31 +0000
                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 14:30 +0100
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 23:38 -0400
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:22 +0100
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 00:28 -0400
                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 04:03 -0400
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 18:42 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 08:53 +0000
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 01:53 -0400
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 08:52 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 01:41 -0400
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 06:41 +0000
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 03:07 -0400
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 13:28 +0200
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 19:16 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 05:18 -0400
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-07 18:59 +0000
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 09:40 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:51 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 04:56 -0400
    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-05-31 16:43 +0800
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 08:48 +0000
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-31 10:16 +0000
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 10:22 +0000
    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 06:38 +0000
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 03:04 -0400
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 13:32 +0200
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 11:34 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 14:01 +0200
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-09 20:29 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 22:52 +0200
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 04:36 -0400
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-10 08:48 +0000
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-06 09:17 +0100
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 09:40 +0000
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:57 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:11 +0100
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-09 20:30 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:19 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-10 00:22 +0000
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 04:18 -0400
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 01:33 -0400

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#87709

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-09 01:46 +0000
Message-ID<n8p9jqF8q2vU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87701
On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
> Oh well, same day, different war...

Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell 
Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead. 

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#87727

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-09 03:09 -0400
Message-ID<zOCcnVFzd4itIbr3nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#87709
On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>> Oh well, same day, different war...
> 
> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell
> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.

   Wow ... TDS even here .........

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#87737

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-09 11:17 +0100
Message-ID<1108p7r$3t5ug$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87727
On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote:
> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>>> Oh well, same day, different war...
>>
>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell
>> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
> 
>    Wow ... TDS even here .........
> 
It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House.


-- 
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in 
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in 
someone else's pocket.

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#87778

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-10 01:33 -0400
Message-ID<1OKdnWPXId28arX3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87737
On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote:
>> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>>>> Oh well, same day, different war...
>>>
>>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell
>>> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
>>
>>    Wow ... TDS even here .........
>>
> It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House.

   Tisk !

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#87804

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-10 11:53 +0100
Message-ID<110bfn5$m24r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87778
On 10/06/2026 06:33, c186282 wrote:
> On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>>>>> Oh well, same day, different war...
>>>>
>>>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell
>>>> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
>>>
>>>    Wow ... TDS even here .........
>>>
>> It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House.
> 
>    Tisk !
> 
 From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit 
crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from 
Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second coming of Trump, 
son of God.

He's just a very naughty boy.

-- 
In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act.

- George Orwell

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#87810

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-06-10 18:52 +0200
Message-ID<pahofmxcl8.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#87804
On 2026-06-10 12:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 10/06/2026 06:33, c186282 wrote:
>> On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote:
>>>> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>>>>>> Oh well, same day, different war...
>>>>>
>>>>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell
>>>>> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
>>>>
>>>>    Wow ... TDS even here .........
>>>>
>>> It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House.
>>
>>    Tisk !
>>
>  From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit 
> crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from 
> Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second coming of Trump, 
> son of God.
> 
> He's just a very naughty boy.

Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are friends.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87823

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-10 21:47 +0100
Message-ID<110cigv$10v56$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87810
On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit 
>> crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from 
>> Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second coming of Trump, 
>> son of God.
>>
>> He's just a very naughty boy.
> 
> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are friends.

Well the US state, anyway,

Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term interest. 
Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth protecting.

Trump is simply too stupid to understand that.  If he cant make a profit 
right now, he isn't interested.



-- 
Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that 
doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that 
don't protect,  masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.

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#87826

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-11 02:58 +0000
Message-ID<n8uminF52itU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87823
On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 21:47:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit
>>> crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from
>>> Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second coming of Trump,
>>> son of God.
>>>
>>> He's just a very naughty boy.
>> 
>> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are
>> friends.
> 
> Well the US state, anyway,
> 
> Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term interest.
> Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth protecting.

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/european-
union

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/eu-us-trade/

If you have a $200 billion trade deficit is it worth pursuing the market? 
The sectors that do export to the EU would say yes; the sectors hurt by EU 
imports might not be as enthusiastic. It's clear why the US is so intent 
on exporting LNG to the EU, particularly Germany. It's not so clear why 
Germany chose that alternative to cheaper Russian gas. 

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#87839

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-11 01:36 -0400
Message-ID<I-GcnYM-B9361Lf3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87826
On 6/10/26 22:58, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 21:47:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>  From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit
>>>> crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from
>>>> Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second coming of Trump,
>>>> son of God.
>>>>
>>>> He's just a very naughty boy.
>>>
>>> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are
>>> friends.
>>
>> Well the US state, anyway,
>>
>> Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term interest.
>> Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth protecting.
> 
> https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/european-
> union
> 
> https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/eu-us-trade/
> 
> If you have a $200 billion trade deficit is it worth pursuing the market?
> The sectors that do export to the EU would say yes; the sectors hurt by EU
> imports might not be as enthusiastic. It's clear why the US is so intent
> on exporting LNG to the EU, particularly Germany. It's not so clear why
> Germany chose that alternative to cheaper Russian gas.

   Well ... CHEAPER !

   But that CAN screw you.

   Despite the recent new surge against Iran, the EU
   can expect its reserves to run out fairly soon.
   Jet fuel seems to be the first one to go.

   Trump was smart to fix Venezuela FIRST  :-)

   There ARE alternative oil/gas sources around
   the world, out of the Gulf sphere. Seems a
   lot of panic investment going into those now.

   The USA can supply JUST enough petrochemicals to
   keep the EU alive. Not 'healthy', but alive.

   Alas DID see a news blurb today saying Chinese
   EVs are surging. The advantage WON'T last though,
   energy is energy. Too many people Plug In and
   the electric grids will start to buckle and the
   price per KW will go WAY up.

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#87860

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-11 11:46 +0100
Message-ID<110e3lb$1cf90$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87839
On 11/06/2026 06:36, c186282 wrote:
> The USA can supply JUST enough petrochemicals to
>    keep the EU alive. Not 'healthy', but alive.

The USA cant supply itself alone.

"The United States remained a net crude oil importer in 2022, importing 
about 6.28 million b/d of crude oil and exporting about 3.58 million b/d."

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-and-exports.php
Hows that cheap pump gas doing pal?

-- 
"In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is 
true: it is true because it is powerful."

Lucas Bergkamp

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#87868

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-11 17:15 +0000
Message-ID<n908q9Fca6vU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87860
On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 11:46:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 11/06/2026 06:36, c186282 wrote:
>> The USA can supply JUST enough petrochemicals to
>>    keep the EU alive. Not 'healthy', but alive.
> 
> The USA cant supply itself alone.
> 
> "The United States remained a net crude oil importer in 2022, importing
> about 6.28 million b/d of crude oil and exporting about 3.58 million
> b/d."
> 
> https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-
and-exports.php
> Hows that cheap pump gas doing pal?

The US is extremely good at shooting itself in the foot. Much of the crude 
from US wells is light sweet. The refineries tooled up to use the sour 
heavy crude that was cheaper at the time.

Then there is LNG. The Jones Act from the 1920s stipulated products 
shipped between US ports have to be carried on US flagged ships. 
Unfortunately there aren't any US flagged tankers so if you're sitting on 
a lot of LNG in Texas you need to convince the Germans to buy it after you 
ship it there on a Liberian flagged tanker. Meanwhile, if you're freezing 
your balls off in Boston, you have to import LNG. LNG is a fungible 
commodity but it was embarrassing when it was determined that some of it 
originated from Rosprom.

That 1920s law was meant to protect the US merchant marine and failed to 
do that. My brother in law was a merchant seaman and had his captain's 
papers although he never sailed higher than second officer. When he 
sailed, that is. Almost all hiring was done through the Masters, Mates, 
and Pilots union which only allowed the members to work six months a year 
to spread the work around. The union paid benefits during the off months.

At one time I thought about a career in the merchant marine as an engineer 
rather than a deck officer. Fortunately I didn't take that path. 

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#87850

FromRichard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-11 07:52 +0100
Message-ID<wwv1pedd0wk.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to#87826
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are
>>> friends.
>> 
>> Well the US state, anyway,
>> 
>> Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term
>> interest.  Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth
>> protecting.
> 
> https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/european-
> union
>
> https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/eu-us-trade/
>
> If you have a $200 billion trade deficit is it worth pursuing the
> market?

The _goods_ trade deficit is ~$200bn in the EU’s favour; the total
(goods and services) trade deficit is around $20bn out of
$1.7tn. Basically a rounding error.

Also the EU is not famous for being cheap as a place to do business, if
the US is running a goods trade deficit with it then that seems like a
skill issue. What are you guys playing at?! Hire some competent
managers.

> The sectors that do export to the EU would say yes; the sectors hurt
> by EU imports might not be as enthusiastic. It's clear why the US is
> so intent on exporting LNG to the EU, particularly Germany. It's not
> so clear why Germany chose that alternative to cheaper Russian gas.

At least to an extent, Germany chose non-Russian gas because Ukraine
blew up the undersea pipeline...  they’ve mostly got their heads turned
back round to realizing that Russia is a threat again by now though.

-- 
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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#87861

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-11 11:52 +0100
Message-ID<110e415$1cf90$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87850
On 11/06/2026 07:52, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> At least to an extent, Germany chose non-Russian gas because Ukraine
> blew up the undersea pipeline...  they’ve mostly got their heads turned
> back round to realizing that Russia is a threat again by now though.

Russia bribed and blackmailed better than The USA.
Russian gas was cheap and it allowed Germany to pretend that solar 
panels and windmills actually worked.

Now Germany will start building nuclear power again.

PS kudos to Canada for restarting BRUCE nuclear power station in record 
time after refurbishment.

And Ukraine has blown up more than one Russian pipeline. There is no 
fuel in Western Russia to be had at all.



-- 
“But what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an 
hypothesis!”

Mary Wollstonecraft

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#87865

FromMarc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us>
Date2026-06-11 18:47 +0200
Message-ID<110eoru$1algm$1@news1.tnib.de>
In reply to#87861
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 11/06/2026 07:52, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>> At least to an extent, Germany chose non-Russian gas because Ukraine
>> blew up the undersea pipeline...  they’ve mostly got their heads turned
>> back round to realizing that Russia is a threat again by now though.
>
>Russia bribed and blackmailed better than The USA.
>Russian gas was cheap and it allowed Germany to pretend that solar 
>panels and windmills actually worked.

Solar panels and "Windmills" DO actually work.

>Now Germany will start building nuclear power again.

No, we won't. The problem ist that we need power networks first and
additional energy second, both of them _right_ _now_. Our politicians
are lying at us when they pretend that new nuclear power will be there
before 2045 which is 20 years to late to solve current problems.

There is no nuclear technology that will be only quickly enough.

-- 
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Rhein-Neckar, DE   |     Beginning of Wisdom "     | 
Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402

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#87867

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-11 16:59 +0000
Message-ID<n907s0Fca6vU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87861
On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 11:52:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> And Ukraine has blown up more than one Russian pipeline. There is no
> fuel in Western Russia to be had at all.

Going back to well before Euromaidan there was a strange effect with 
pipelines that transited the Ukraine. Fuel seemed to evaporate. At least 
the Ukrainians were more sophisticated than the Africans who tend to 
create large craters when they try to steal fuel.

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#87866

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-11 16:55 +0000
Message-ID<n907jrFca6vU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87850
On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 07:52:27 +0100, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

> Also the EU is not famous for being cheap as a place to do business, if
> the US is running a goods trade deficit with it then that seems like a
> skill issue. What are you guys playing at?! Hire some competent
> managers.

Rather late for that. The decision was taken in the early '70s that 
manufacturing was a thing of the past. Dirty old plants could be moved to 
countries with cheap labor while we entered a clean service economy.  Much 
of the physical plant had been renewed during WWII and was due for 
replacement with modern machinery but dirt cheap labor was better than 
capital spending. 

A deciding factor was the stagflation, a result of the oil embargo. The 
embargo, of course, was another result of the US playing games in the 
Middle East. The failed attempt to show the French how it was done in 
southeast Asia didn't help either.

The managers are very competent. They've made billions for their 
employers.

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#87838

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-11 01:16 -0400
Message-ID<FBicnUsM2upz2bf3nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87823
On 6/10/26 16:47, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit 
>>> crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from 
>>> Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second coming of 
>>> Trump, son of God.
>>>
>>> He's just a very naughty boy.
>>
>> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are 
>> friends.
> 
> Well the US state, anyway,
> 
> Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term interest. 
> Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth protecting.
> 
> Trump is simply too stupid to understand that.  If he cant make a profit 
> right now, he isn't interested.

   Note those Euros got to think of the USA as
   "Uncle Money-Bags" for a LONG time.

   No wonder they're upset.

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#87845

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-11 06:28 +0000
Message-ID<n8v2t3F6v90U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87838
On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 01:16:32 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Note those Euros got to think of the USA as "Uncle Money-Bags" for a
>    LONG time.

The US wanted to be the big dog after WWII; the bill is coming due. 

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#87859

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-11 11:42 +0100
Message-ID<110e3en$1cf90$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87845
On 11/06/2026 07:28, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 01:16:32 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Note those Euros got to think of the USA as "Uncle Money-Bags" for a
>>     LONG time.
> 
> The US wanted to be the big dog after WWII; the bill is coming due.

Indeed it is. Galloping inflation, exports crashing, unemployment on the 
rise.
Crippling healthcare costs. No broadband.



-- 
"In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is 
true: it is true because it is powerful."

Lucas Bergkamp

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#87864

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-11 16:41 +0000
Message-ID<n906pqFca6vU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87859
On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 11:42:31 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 11/06/2026 07:28, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 01:16:32 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>> 
>>>     Note those Euros got to think of the USA as "Uncle Money-Bags" for
>>>     a LONG time.
>> 
>> The US wanted to be the big dog after WWII; the bill is coming due.
> 
> Indeed it is. Galloping inflation, exports crashing, unemployment on the
> rise.
> Crippling healthcare costs. No broadband.

It was an interesting experiment. 

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