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  mint 10.0 chicken & egg problem getting kppp pH <pureheart@pacbell.net> - 2011-05-22 09:42 -0700
    Re: mint 10.0 chicken & egg problem getting kppp Aragorn <aragorn@chatfactory.invalid> - 2011-05-22 19:02 +0200
      Re: mint 10.0 chicken & egg problem getting kppp pH <pureheart@pacbell.net> - 2011-05-22 10:27 -0700
      Re: mint 10.0 chicken & egg problem getting kppp John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2011-05-22 12:42 -0500
        Re: mint 10.0 chicken & egg problem getting kppp The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-22 20:57 +0100
        Re: mint 10.0 chicken & egg problem getting kppp pH <pureheart@pacbell.net> - 2011-05-23 10:45 -0700
    Re: mint 10.0 chicken & egg problem getting kppp Dave U. Random <anonymous@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> - 2011-05-22 23:51 +0200
    Re: mint 10.0 chicken & egg problem getting kppp JeffM <jeffm_@email.com> - 2011-05-25 21:11 -0700
    Re: mint 10.0 chicken & egg problem getting kppp JeffM <jeffm_@email.com> - 2011-05-26 11:30 -0700
    Re: mint 10.0 chicken & egg problem getting kppp JeffM <jeffm_@email.com> - 2011-05-27 16:16 -0700

#1200 — mint 10.0 chicken & egg problem getting kppp

I just installed Mint 10.0 on another hard drive.

I could not seem to find any modem items installed for my dial-up
connection.

It wanted to download some 60MB to get kppp. via apt-get install kppp.

The problem, without my dial-up connection I can't get the items
required to get a dialup connection.

The Question:
Is there a place I can order repository CD/DVD's with my items of
interest?

To begin with I would like to add a modem handler (does not have to be
kppp if there's a better one out there) and games...especially shi-
shen-sho, tux racer, etc.

I'm back on my old Madrake install to be able to connect and ask this
question.

pH

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#1202

On Sunday 22 May 2011 18:42 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody identifying
as pH wrote...

> I just installed Mint 10.0 on another hard drive.
> 
> I could not seem to find any modem items installed for my dial-up
> connection.
> 
> It wanted to download some 60MB to get kppp. via apt-get install kppp.
> 
> The problem, without my dial-up connection I can't get the items
> required to get a dialup connection.
> 
> The Question:
> Is there a place I can order repository CD/DVD's with my items of
> interest?

This I cannot tell you - I've briefly skimmed cheapbytes.com but they
don't seem to be offering Mint - but read farther down...

> To begin with I would like to add a modem handler (does not have to be
> kppp if there's a better one out there) and games...especially shi-
> shen-sho, tux racer, etc.
> 
> I'm back on my old Madrake install to be able to connect and ask this
> question.

Use your Mandrake to connect to one of the many [*] mirrors in the USA -
which I presume you are posting from - and download the packages of
interest to you to some location on your hard drive where you can
access them from within Mint, and then boot into Mint and use your
package manager to install those packages into your system.  That
should give you at least a working dial-up connection in Mint, enough
to download other stuff.


[*] If there is no specific Mint mirror, then you might try a Debian or
    Ubuntu mirror instead.  Those packages /should/ work.



-- 
*Aragorn*
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

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#1204

<snip>
>
> > The Question:
> > Is there a place I can order repository CD/DVD's with my items of
> > interest?
>
> This I cannot tell you - I've briefly skimmed cheapbytes.com but they
> don't seem to be offering Mint - but read farther down...
>
> > To begin with I would like to add a modem handler (does not have to be
> > kppp if there's a better one out there) and games...especially shi-
> > shen-sho, tux racer, etc.
>
> > I'm back on my old Madrake install to be able to connect and ask this
> > question.
>
> Use your Mandrake to connect to one of the many [*] mirrors in the USA -
> which I presume you are posting from - and download the packages of
> interest to you to some location on your hard drive where you can
> access them from within Mint, and then boot into Mint and use your
> package manager to install those packages into your system.  That
> should give you at least a working dial-up connection in Mint, enough
> to download other stuff.
>
> [*] If there is no specific Mint mirror, then you might try a Debian or
>     Ubuntu mirror instead.  Those packages /should/ work.
>
> --
> *Aragorn*
> (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

Thanks for the reply, Aragorn.
Part of the reason to upgrade is to replace my old HD.  I take the
drive w/ Mandrake out and put in the new one which has mint.

I only have room for one drive unless there is such a thing as a usb
to hard drive adapter (I'd still have to plug in power.)

Perhaps I can download to a memory stick and bring it home from
there.
All the more reason to work on getting a faster connection out here in
the boonies.

I did find a place called "linuxcd.org" which may do the trick, too.

pH

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#1206

pH wrote:
> It wanted to download some 60MB to get kppp. via apt-get install kppp.

"apt-get install ppp pppconfig"

Run pppconfig as root and follow instructions.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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#1207

John Hasler wrote:
> pH wrote:
>> It wanted to download some 60MB to get kppp. via apt-get install kppp.
> 
> "apt-get install ppp pppconfig"
> 
> Run pppconfig as root and follow instructions.

that sounds better.

Or get someone to burn and post a CD/DVD...

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#1219

On May 22, 10:42 am, John Hasler <jhas...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> pH wrote:
> > It wanted to download some 60MB to get kppp. via apt-get install kppp.
>
> "apt-get install ppp pppconfig"
>
> Run pppconfig as root and follow instructions.
>
Okay, this sounds like a good alternative.

I'm on my old Mandrake HD now and so have ppp.

When the new, mint HD is in, it has only wireless/ethernet goodies, so
am dead in the water
to connect to dial-up w/ ppp to get ppp....is that clear?

The linuxcd.org place I found has Ubuntu repositories on CD for lots
of various releases.
Do people think that the Ubuntu 9.04 stuff would work (in general) w/
Mint?

As for plan B, I have a USB dongle and a neighbor willing to share his
wifi.  I have had no luck
due to the distance despite a parabolic reflector on the dongle, but
will do some more experimentation.

Thanks for the replies and the ppp/pppconfig tip especially!

pH


> John Hasler
> jhas...@newsguy.com
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, WI USA

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#1209

p> It wanted to download some 60MB to get kppp. via apt-get install kppp.

Use a lighter alternative instead of kppp, like wvdial. That is, if
you don't want to mess with the pppd options and its configuration
files by hand.

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#1259

pH wrote:
>[...]installed Mint 10.0[...]
>I could not seem to find any modem items installed
>for my dial-up connection.
>
I assume you know this part,
but for anyone reading over our shoulders:

First, one assumes that you have checked
that the modem you have is Linux-compatible.
Hardware modems aka controller modems are OK;
external modems (serial port; USB) are OK;
in most cases, WinModems aka software modem are *NOT* OK
http://google.com/search?q=LinModems

>It wanted to download some 60MB
>to get kppp. via apt-get install kppp.
>
Some folks were pitching a fit
that even the LXDE spin of Mint totally left out dial-up support.
http://google.com/search?q=site:forums.linuxmint.com+wvdial+%22.GNOME-PPP%22+OR+kppp
Really short-sighted of Kendall, IMO.  8-(

...and GNOME-PPP and kppp are graphical front ends to wvdial;
you will need that as well.
http://google.com/search?q=site:forums.linuxmint.com+wvdial+%22.GNOME-PPP%22+OR+kppp

...or just get wvdial
and, as Dave U. Random suggested, configure it without a GUI.

>The problem, without my dial-up connection
>I can't get the items required to get a dialup connection.
>
That really sucks, doesn't it?

This distro/version has out-of-the-box dial-up support.
http://google.com/search?q=PuppyLinux+MultiUser
PupDialer is quite nice.

Once installed, that Puplet also *doesn't* have Puppy's infamous
always-running-as-root "feature".

This distro was constructed to work with really old low-spec boxes
and it also comes with dial-up support:
http://google.com/search?q=antiX+64MB+128MB
(Pronounced "antiques".)

>The Question:
>Is there a place I can order
>repository CD/DVD's with my items of interest?
>
The way to do this
is to have someone with a connection install Mint from the CD
then have him install the apps you need on his partition via apt-get
*then* run something like RemasterSys
http://google.com/search?q=RemasterSys
to make a new version of the install CD from the HDD partition.

If the CD from which he installed his OS is already filled to the
brim,
he might have to delete a few other apps from his Mint install
to get the new stuff to fit on the CD he burns.
(...and if he was making a DVD, there is a 4.0GB limit there.)

You install your dial-up-enabled OS from the remastered CD.
I'm amazed no one has done this already and put it in a repository.

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#1261

pH wrote:
>[...]installed Mint 10.0[...]
>I could not seem to find any modem items installed
>for my dial-up connection.
>
I assume you know this part,
but for anyone reading over our shoulders:

Before you start chasing down software,
one assumes that you have checked
to assure that the modem you have is Linux-compatible.
Hardware modems aka controller modems are OK;
external modems (serial port; USB) are OK;
in most cases, WinModems aka software modem are *NOT* OK
http://google.com/search?q=LinModems

>It wanted to download some 60MB
>to get kppp. via apt-get install kppp.
>
Some folks were pitching a fit
that even the LXDE spin of Mint totally left out dial-up support.
http://google.com/search?q=site:forums.linuxmint.com+wvdial+%22.GNOME-PPP%22+OR+kppp
Really short-sighted of Kendall, IMO.  8-(

...and GNOME-PPP and kppp are graphical front ends to wvdial;
you will need that as well.
http://google.com/search?q=site:forums.linuxmint.com+wvdial+%22.GNOME-PPP%22+OR+kppp

...or just get wvdial
and, as Dave U. Random suggested, configure it without a GUI.

>The problem, without my dial-up connection
>I can't get the items required to get a dialup connection.
>
That really sucks, doesn't it?

This distro/version has out-of-the-box dial-up support.
http://google.com/search?q=PuppyLinux+MultiUser
PupDialer is quite nice.

Once installed, that Puplet also *doesn't* have Puppy's infamous
always-running-as-root "feature".
.
This distro was constructed to work with really old low-spec boxes
and it also comes with dial-up support:
http://google.com/search?q=antiX+64MB+128MB
(Pronounced "antiques".)

>The Question:
>Is there a place I can order
>repository CD/DVD's with my items of interest?
>
The way to do this
is to have someone with a connection install Mint from the CD
then have him install the apps you need on his partition via apt-get
*then* run something like RemasterSys
http://google.com/search?q=RemasterSys
to make a new version of the install CD from the HDD partition.

If the CD from which he installed his OS is already filled to the
brim,
he might have to delete a few other apps from his Mint install
to get the new stuff to fit on the CD he burns.
(...and if he was making a DVD, there is a 4.0GB limit there.)

You install your dial-up-enabled OS from the remastered CD.
You also now have a boot-to-a-CD option with dial-up.
I'm amazed no one has done this already and put it in a repository.

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#1264

pH wrote:
>[...]installed Mint 10.0[...]
>I could not seem to find any modem items installed
>for my dial-up connection.
>
I assume you know this part,
but for anyone reading over our shoulders:

Before you start chasing down software,
one assumes that you have checked
to assure that the modem you have is Linux-compatible.
Hardware modems aka controller modems are OK;
external modems (serial port; USB) are OK;
in most cases, WinModems aka software modem are *NOT* OK
http://google.com/search?q=LinModems

>It wanted to download some 60MB
>to get kppp. via apt-get install kppp.
>
Some folks were pitching a fit
that even the LXDE spin of Mint totally left out dial-up support.
http://google.com/search?q=site:forums.linuxmint.com+wvdial+%22.GNOME-PPP%22+OR+kppp
Really short-sighted of Kendall, IMO.  8-(

...and GNOME-PPP and kppp are graphical front ends to wvdial;
you will need that as well.
http://google.com/search?q=site:forums.linuxmint.com+wvdial+%22.GNOME-PPP%22+OR+kppp

...or just get wvdial
and, as Dave U. Random suggested, configure it without a GUI.

>The problem, without my dial-up connection
>I can't get the items required to get a dialup connection.
>
That really sucks, doesn't it?

This distro/version has out-of-the-box dial-up support.
http://google.com/search?q=PuppyLinux+MultiUser
PupDialer is quite nice.

Once installed, that Puplet also *doesn't* have Puppy's infamous
always-running-as-root "feature".
.
This distro was constructed to work with really old low-spec boxes
and it also comes with dial-up support:
http://google.com/search?q=antiX+64MB+128MB
(Pronounced "antiques".)

>The Question:
>Is there a place I can order
>repository CD/DVD's with my items of interest?
>
The way to do this
is to have someone with a connection install Mint from the CD
then have him install the apps you need on his partition via apt-get
*then* run something like RemasterSys
http://google.com/search?q=RemasterSys
to make a new version of the install CD from the HDD partition.

If the CD from which he installed his OS is already filled to the
brim,
he might have to delete a few other apps from his Mint install
to get the new stuff to fit on the CD he burns.
(...and if he was making a DVD, there is a 4.0GB limit there.)

You install your dial-up-enabled OS from the remastered CD.
You also now have a boot-to-a-CD option with dial-up.
I'm amazed no one has done this already and put it in a repository.

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