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  Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2024-08-12 18:35 +0000
    Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-08-12 13:08 -0700
      Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2024-08-13 18:48 +0000
    Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-08-12 22:12 +0200
      Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2024-08-13 18:50 +0000
    Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-13 04:12 +0000
      Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad Michael Uplawski <michael.uplawski@uplawski.eu> - 2024-08-13 07:03 +0200
      Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-13 05:20 +0000
        Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-13 05:52 +0000
        Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2024-08-13 17:32 +0200
          Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-13 17:17 +0000
            Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-13 18:53 +0100
        Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-14 01:50 +0000
    Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-13 01:17 -0400
      Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-08-13 05:28 +0000
        Re: Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-08-13 02:22 -0400

#57897 — Can I safely install linux on Lenovo ideapad

The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.

Thanks for suggestions.

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#57898

On 8/12/24 11:35, root wrote:
> The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
> I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
> I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.
> 
> Thanks for suggestions.

	First off run gparted to see what space you might
have on the storage media to which Windows 11 installed.
You seem naive to these procedures so I would check on
the access to the BIOS and do a search on the Web to
see if anyone else has had the idea.  I use DuckDuckGo
to search and advise anyone who values privacy.

Use the search term "Install Linux on Ideapad 1.4UL7"
Then come back here and and ask more questions but what
Linux are you planning to install?

bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2024.06- Linux 6.6.45-Plasma 5.27.11
-- 
b l i s s - S F 4 e v e r at D S L E x t r e m e dot com

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#57920

Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>
> 	First off run gparted to see what space you might
> have on the storage media to which Windows 11 installed.
> You seem naive to these procedures so I would check on
> the access to the BIOS and do a search on the Web to
> see if anyone else has had the idea.  I use DuckDuckGo
> to search and advise anyone who values privacy.
>
> Use the search term "Install Linux on Ideapad 1.4UL7"
> Then come back here and and ask more questions but what
> Linux are you planning to install?
>
> bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2024.06- Linux 6.6.45-Plasma 5.27.11

I would install Slackware current.

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#57899

On Mon, 12 Aug 2024, root wrote:

> The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
> I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
> I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.
>
> Thanks for suggestions.
>

Why don't you just try? Make a backup and go for it.

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#57921

D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>
> Why don't you just try? Make a backup and go for it.

I bought a tiny Celeron computer and tried to install
linux: the device was bricked. That device had Win 11
locked into its firmware.

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#57903

root <NoEMail@home.org> writes:
> The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
> I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
> I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.
> 
> Thanks for suggestions.

Linux works well with Lenovo/IBM machinery.  These days I only buy Lenovo. 
I customise it when buying it to work very well with Linux.

I use Linux Mint. It's also a good distro for those moving across from
Windows.  My own preference is Mint Mate.

Make sure you back up all your personal data before you even think of playing
with your system.

Make sure you have produced your Windows System Recovery USB before you even
think of playing with your system.

Watch a youtube or two of installing linux and dual-booting Windows,
preferably with the distro you'll actually be using.

If you decide on a Linux distro which is not what you have already used as a
Live USB, do so for a week or two before you take the plunge.

Use Windows disk tools or maybe gparted to reduce the size of Windows on
your boot disk bfore you start to install the Linux distro. I generally
reduce my Windows partition(s) as much as possible to somewhere beween 50
and 100 gig. The rest of the space on my drives is allocated to Linux. On
one machine I have dispensed with Windows altogether. I rarely boot Windows,
I usually use a Windows 7 guest in VirtualBox when I have to use my HP
scanner software, and that's not all that often.

When you have Linux up and running, try to use it for everything.  That's
the fastest way to learn the nitty-gritty stuff.  Google what's beyond your
own current capabilities.  If still stuck, then boot Windows as a last
resort to fix that problem.

Good luck.

You'll find a different way of life.   :)

Jack


-- 
There was this old lady who demanded that the
police arrest her next-door neighbor because
he kept whistling obscene songs.

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#57904

Jack Strangio wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:

>Linux works well with Lenovo/IBM machinery.  These days I only buy Lenovo. 
>I customise it when buying it to work very well with Linux.

In most cases, though, no customization is needed.
Our notebooks are not of the newest generation, but Lenovo poses
absolutely no problem. The distribution should not matter.

Cheerio

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#57906

On 2024-08-13, Jack Strangio <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> wrote:

> root <NoEMail@home.org> writes:
>
>> The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
>> I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
>> I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.
>> 
>> Thanks for suggestions.
>
> Linux works well with Lenovo/IBM machinery.  These days I only buy Lenovo. 
> I customise it when buying it to work very well with Linux.

The laptop I'm writing this on is a Lenovo T410.  This is my second Lenovo;
I choose them for the professional-grade keyboard, but they also run Linux
quite well.

> I use Linux Mint. It's also a good distro for those moving across from
> Windows.  My own preference is Mint Mate.

I'm running Debian (currently Bookworm) with Xfce, which is lightweight
and responsive - as opposed to, say, KDE, which may be pretty but was
quite a resource hog when last I tried it.  But pick whatever makes you
happy - unlike Windows there are many choices of desktop environments.

<snip>

> Use Windows disk tools or maybe gparted to reduce the size of Windows on
> your boot disk bfore you start to install the Linux distro. I generally
> reduce my Windows partition(s) as much as possible to somewhere beween 50
> and 100 gig. The rest of the space on my drives is allocated to Linux.

My laptop came with Windows 7, which I keep in a dual-boot configuration
just in case I needit.  The last time I needed it was a couple of years
ago.  I agree that you should reduce the size of the Windows partition
if you're going to dual-boot - but Windows tends to put a Master File
Table (MFT) smack in the middle of the partition, and it's not movable
by normal means.  This means you can't shrink the Windows partition down
to less than half its size unless you resort to a third-party solution.
Try PerfectDisk from Raxco (www.raxco.com) - you can download a free
demo version which can move the MFT.  It will take a few reboot cycles,
but you can shrink the Windows partition quite a bit.  My Windows
partition is now 60GB on a 250GB hard drive.

> I usually use a Windows 7 guest in VirtualBox when I have to use my HP
> scanner software, and that's not all that often.

I run XP in VirtualBox for Windows software development.  Less is more -
I give it 30GB of disk space and 512MB of memory, which is enough for
my needs, so it's light on resources and still runs fast.

> When you have Linux up and running, try to use it for everything.  That's
> the fastest way to learn the nitty-gritty stuff.  Google what's beyond your
> own current capabilities.  If still stuck, then boot Windows as a last
> resort to fix that problem.

LibreOffice does just about anything MS Office will, unless you're
one of those Excel gurus who uses every little feature.  VLC and
mpv do a good job of playing videos and sound files.  The latest
versions of Firefox and Thunderbird are available to surf the Web
and process e-mail, and xscreensaver is a prettier screen saver
than anything you'll find under Windows.  There are lots of Linux
utilities out there that will do just about anything you want, if
you can live with the fact that they might be a bit different from
their Windows counterparts.  Most of these utilities come with a
standard Linux distro, and installation is a breeze.

> Good luck.
>
> You'll find a different way of life.   :)

Indeed.  No more forced upgrades, no more monthly rentals, no more
nagware.  It'll take a bit of work, but there are lots of sources
of information you can search for on the Web.  Use DuckDuckGo
(https://duckduckgo.com) and you're free from Google's surveillance.
And, of course, there's this newsgroup - post your questions here
and we'll try to to help.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  They don't understand Microsoft
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  has stolen their car and parked
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  a taxi in their driveway.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Mayayana

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#57911

On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 05:20:35 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> LibreOffice does just about anything MS Office will, unless you're one
> of those Excel gurus who uses every little feature.

Let’s just say, some of those Excel features are best avoided.

<https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/journal.pcbi.1008984>:

    If a spreadsheet must be used, then LibreOffice is recommended
    because it will avoid such errors from occurring.

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#57915

On Di 13 Aug 2024 at 05:20, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:

> On 2024-08-13, Jack Strangio <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> root <NoEMail@home.org> writes:
>>
>>> The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
>>> I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
>>> I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for suggestions.
>>
>> Linux works well with Lenovo/IBM machinery.  These days I only buy Lenovo. 
>> I customise it when buying it to work very well with Linux.
>
> The laptop I'm writing this on is a Lenovo T410.  This is my second Lenovo;
> I choose them for the professional-grade keyboard, but they also run Linux
> quite well.

+1

And there are always good refurbished models on the market for a good
price.

> LibreOffice does just about anything MS Office will, unless you're
> one of those Excel gurus who uses every little feature.  VLC and
> mpv do a good job of playing videos and sound files.  The latest
> versions of Firefox and Thunderbird are available to surf the Web
> and process e-mail, and xscreensaver is a prettier screen saver
> than anything you'll find under Windows.  There are lots of Linux
> utilities out there that will do just about anything you want, if
> you can live with the fact that they might be a bit different from
> their Windows counterparts.  Most of these utilities come with a
> standard Linux distro, and installation is a breeze.

I live in Emacs and the writing is done with TeX/LaTeX (inside Emacs).
Calc-Mode and Org-Mode are also improtant for me.

'Andreas

-- 
ceterum censeo redmondinem esse delendam

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#57918

On 2024-08-13, Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote:

> On Di 13 Aug 2024 at 05:20, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-08-13, Jack Strangio <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> root <NoEMail@home.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
>>>> I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
>>>> I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for suggestions.
>>>
>>> Linux works well with Lenovo/IBM machinery.  These days I only buy Lenovo. 
>>> I customise it when buying it to work very well with Linux.
>>
>> The laptop I'm writing this on is a Lenovo T410.  This is my second Lenovo;
>> I choose them for the professional-grade keyboard, but they also run Linux
>> quite well.
>
> +1
>
> And there are always good refurbished models on the market for a good
> price.

Yes, I forgot to mention that my machines are refurbs.
A lot of Lenovo laptops come from offices that replace
their machines regularly whether they need to or not.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  We'll go down in history as the
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  first society that wouldn't save
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  itself because it wasn't cost-
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  effective.  -- Kurt Vonnegut

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#57919

On 13/08/2024 18:17, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2024-08-13, Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote:
> 
>> On Di 13 Aug 2024 at 05:20, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-08-13, Jack Strangio <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> root <NoEMail@home.org> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
>>>>> I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
>>>>> I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Linux works well with Lenovo/IBM machinery.  These days I only buy Lenovo.
>>>> I customise it when buying it to work very well with Linux.
>>>
>>> The laptop I'm writing this on is a Lenovo T410.  This is my second Lenovo;
>>> I choose them for the professional-grade keyboard, but they also run Linux
>>> quite well.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> And there are always good refurbished models on the market for a good
>> price.
> 
> Yes, I forgot to mention that my machines are refurbs.
> A lot of Lenovo laptops come from offices that replace
> their machines regularly whether they need to or not.
> 

That same thing.
What often happens is that a 3rd party company has the duty to supply 
and maintain the desktops, and after 5 years or so they are not 
interested. They will supply new, take the old back, get the disks 
crushed and pass what's left onto a refurb company.

Its all about being able to warrant the hardware software and support.

And accountancy rules. 5 years and they are written off against tax already.

We benefirt from machines selling at a lower price than the processors 
inside them

-- 
The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before 
its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about.

Anon.

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#57930

Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
> 
> The laptop I'm writing this on is a Lenovo T410.  This is my second Lenovo;
> I choose them for the professional-grade keyboard, but they also run Linux
> quite well.

I bought my T410 back in 2010 just before I went to France for just under a
year. I can't bear to part with it. I've upgraded the harddrive to 2gigs and
replaced a faulty keyboard, and that's all.

Still my favorite laptop keyboard. :)


Jack
 
-- 
My wife says I have two faults:
I don't listen and something else.

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#57905

On 8/12/24 2:35 PM, root wrote:
> The model is Ideapad 1.15UL7 and comes with Win 11 installed.
> I have been running linux on it using an external USB stick.
> I would rather eliminate the USB if I can.
> 
> Thanks for suggestions.

   SHOULD work OK. The Linux installer WILL give you
   the option to SHRINK a Winders partition so there
   will be room to install Linux. Note that Linux is
   MUCH more efficient/compact so even a 30gb partition
   is usually more than enough. Linux file managers
   WILL give you access to your remaining Winders
   partitions, so you can store "big" data there if
   needed.

   The only issues I've seen with laptops relates
   to "secure boot" options in the BIOS. Most
   laptops are (intentionally) biased towards
   Winders and Winders only - but almost all CAN
   still be tweaked to boot Linux.

   A slower option is to install VirtualBox in Winders
   and install Linux as a virtual machine. The advantage
   is that it's always handily available, the downside
   is that the VM is slower than a 'bare metal' install.

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#57907

On 2024-08-13, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

>    A slower option is to install VirtualBox in Winders
>    and install Linux as a virtual machine. The advantage
>    is that it's always handily available, the downside
>    is that the VM is slower than a 'bare metal' install.

If it's slower, it's not by much.  A Windows VM is quite
fast enough for me.  I have a report progam test bed with
a .BAT file that runs the program several dozen times with
various options; on small files it will flicker the screen
10 times a second with consecutive executions, and it will
process million-record files in 5 seconds.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  We'll go down in history as the
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  first society that wouldn't save
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  itself because it wasn't cost-
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  effective.  -- Kurt Vonnegut

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#57912

On 8/13/24 1:28 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2024-08-13, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
> 
>>     A slower option is to install VirtualBox in Winders
>>     and install Linux as a virtual machine. The advantage
>>     is that it's always handily available, the downside
>>     is that the VM is slower than a 'bare metal' install.
> 
> If it's slower, it's not by much.  A Windows VM is quite
> fast enough for me.  I have a report progam test bed with
> a .BAT file that runs the program several dozen times with
> various options; on small files it will flicker the screen
> 10 times a second with consecutive executions, and it will
> process million-record files in 5 seconds.

   With resources properly allocated a VM can be
   fairly speedy these days. I'd still rather go
   bare metal ... but then I'm from Back In The
   Day. THIS poster sounded more of a Win guy
   looking to explore Linux without risk to his
   (mistakenly) beloved Winders. Dual-boot IS
   technically better - but, for him, a VM may be
   the best way to go, little risk of serious damage.

   With luck he'll decide Linux IS the better way
   and PURGE M$ entirely from his laptop  :-)

   Just looking at the shelf, I have FOUR lower-end
   laptops ... ALL pure Linux. Makes a cheap laptop
   into a fairly speedy laptop - plus no M$ ! Actually
   I have NO M$ boxes at all, haven't for a LONG LONG
   time, but EIGHT active Linux units not including
   the laptops. Accidentally bought an extra BMax unit,
   but I think that's gonna be a BSD eventually,
   MAYBE Plan-9 just to be weird.

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