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  Linux Reboots After 3 Days lilzebra68@gmail.com - 2015-05-24 06:33 -0700
    Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-05-24 08:11 -0700
    Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-05-24 17:11 +0100
      Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-05-24 12:37 -0700
        Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-24 21:40 +0000
          Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-05-24 16:29 -0700
            Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2015-05-24 23:44 -0400
              Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-05-25 10:02 -0700
        Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-05-25 07:31 +0100
      Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days James Jaworski <lilzebra68@gmail.com> - 2015-05-24 14:06 -0700
        Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2015-05-25 20:15 +0000
          Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-05-26 16:47 +0000
      Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days Andreas Kohlbach <may15.7.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2015-05-24 18:48 -0400
        Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-24 22:59 +0000
          Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2015-05-24 23:51 -0400
            Re: Linux Reboots After 3 Days William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-05-25 04:19 +0000

#14851 — Linux Reboots After 3 Days

I have a Fedora18 laptop that runs nicely.

In the past when I've shut down I've used the Shutdown and other times Log Out features.

Recently I've been trying to see how long in time I can keep powered up without having to do a total Reboot.

When I reach somewhere into the 3rd day and I do a Log Out, Linux will go into a char. mode screen instead of the GDM and when I try and re-login, it just sits there with the cursor. 

When I do a Ctrl-Alt-Del, that's when it reboots.

System info
------------

Lenovo T61 i686 Duo Core 2.1 GHz
2 GB RAM
160 GB DASD
Linux Fedora 18

Oodles of hard disk space.

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#14853

On 05/24/2015 06:33 AM, lilzebra68@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a Fedora18 laptop that runs nicely.
>
> In the past when I've shut down I've used the Shutdown and other times Log Out features.
>
> Recently I've been trying to see how long in time I can keep powered up without having to do a total Reboot.
>
> When I reach somewhere into the 3rd day and I do a Log Out, Linux will go into a char. mode screen instead of the GDM and when I try and re-login, it just sits there with the cursor.
>
> When I do a Ctrl-Alt-Del, that's when it reboots.
>
> System info
> ------------
>
> Lenovo T61 i686 Duo Core 2.1 GHz
> 2 GB RAM
> 160 GB DASD
> Linux Fedora 18
>
> Oodles of hard disk space.
>

	You should be using a 64 bit distribution
rather than i686 as far as I can tell.
	Also you Fedora is about 3 versions back
so you might want to think about upgrading to 21
or wait a few days and try Fedora 22.
	If you are willing to try something different
I used Mageia 4.1 64-bit on my HP notebook for a year
without that sort of problem.
	I am using Mageia 5 RC right now and occasionally I
do have to reboot.  I am using KDE 4.14.5 with
kernel 3.19.8-desktop-1.mga5.
	
	bliss

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#14854

On 24/05/15 14:33, lilzebra68@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a Fedora18 laptop that runs nicely.
>
> In the past when I've shut down I've used the Shutdown and other times Log Out features.
>
> Recently I've been trying to see how long in time I can keep powered up without having to do a total Reboot.
>
> When I reach somewhere into the 3rd day and I do a Log Out, Linux will go into a char. mode screen instead of the GDM and when I try and re-login, it just sits there with the cursor.
>
> When I do a Ctrl-Alt-Del, that's when it reboots.


I've never HAD to reboot a running system. You must have some rubbish 
program running....

$ uptime
  17:10:58 up 213 days, 19:25,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00


>
> System info
> ------------
>
> Lenovo T61 i686 Duo Core 2.1 GHz
> 2 GB RAM
> 160 GB DASD
> Linux Fedora 18
>
> Oodles of hard disk space.
>


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the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in 
someone else's pocket.

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#14857

On 05/24/2015 09:11 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 24/05/15 14:33, lilzebra68@gmail.com wrote:
>> I have a Fedora18 laptop that runs nicely.
>>
>> In the past when I've shut down I've used the Shutdown and other times
>> Log Out features.
>>
>> Recently I've been trying to see how long in time I can keep powered
>> up without having to do a total Reboot.
>>
>> When I reach somewhere into the 3rd day and I do a Log Out, Linux will
>> go into a char. mode screen instead of the GDM and when I try and
>> re-login, it just sits there with the cursor.
>>
>> When I do a Ctrl-Alt-Del, that's when it reboots.
>
>
> I've never HAD to reboot a running system. You must have some rubbish
> program running....
>
> $ uptime
>   17:10:58 up 213 days, 19:25,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
>
>
>>
>> System info
>> ------------
>>
>> Lenovo T61 i686 Duo Core 2.1 GHz
>> 2 GB RAM
>> 160 GB DASD
>> Linux Fedora 18
>>
>> Oodles of hard disk space.

	Have you never done updates that required a reboot?

	I get those on a regular basis.  Which reminds me, I
have to reboot to Mageia 4.1 to check for updates.

	Oh well later.

	bliss

	

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#14860

On 2015-05-24, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> On 05/24/2015 09:11 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 24/05/15 14:33, lilzebra68@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I have a Fedora18 laptop that runs nicely.
>>>
>>> In the past when I've shut down I've used the Shutdown and other times
>>> Log Out features.
>>>
>>> Recently I've been trying to see how long in time I can keep powered
>>> up without having to do a total Reboot.
>>>
>>> When I reach somewhere into the 3rd day and I do a Log Out, Linux will
>>> go into a char. mode screen instead of the GDM and when I try and
>>> re-login, it just sits there with the cursor.
>>>
>>> When I do a Ctrl-Alt-Del, that's when it reboots.
>>
>>
>> I've never HAD to reboot a running system. You must have some rubbish
>> program running....
>>
>> $ uptime
>>   17:10:58 up 213 days, 19:25,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
>>
>>
>>>
>>> System info
>>> ------------
>>>
>>> Lenovo T61 i686 Duo Core 2.1 GHz
>>> 2 GB RAM
>>> 160 GB DASD
>>> Linux Fedora 18
>>>
>>> Oodles of hard disk space.
>
> 	Have you never done updates that required a reboot?

Only the kernel. 
And if your kernel works and the update is not a top priority security
bug fix, why reboot?

>
> 	I get those on a regular basis.  Which reminds me, I
> have to reboot to Mageia 4.1 to check for updates.

Why in th eworld would you reboot to check for updates? You can check
for and install updates without rebooting. MCC or 
urpmi.update -a
urpmi --auto-select
either will work.

>
> 	Oh well later.
>
> 	bliss
>
> 	
>

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#14863

On 05/24/2015 02:40 PM, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2015-05-24, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> On 05/24/2015 09:11 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 24/05/15 14:33, lilzebra68@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> I have a Fedora18 laptop that runs nicely.
>>>>
>>>> In the past when I've shut down I've used the Shutdown and other times
>>>> Log Out features.
>>>>
>>>> Recently I've been trying to see how long in time I can keep powered
>>>> up without having to do a total Reboot.
>>>>
>>>> When I reach somewhere into the 3rd day and I do a Log Out, Linux will
>>>> go into a char. mode screen instead of the GDM and when I try and
>>>> re-login, it just sits there with the cursor.
>>>>
>>>> When I do a Ctrl-Alt-Del, that's when it reboots.
>>>
>>>
>>> I've never HAD to reboot a running system. You must have some rubbish
>>> program running....
>>>
>>> $ uptime
>>>    17:10:58 up 213 days, 19:25,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> System info
>>>> ------------
>>>>
>>>> Lenovo T61 i686 Duo Core 2.1 GHz
>>>> 2 GB RAM
>>>> 160 GB DASD
>>>> Linux Fedora 18
>>>>
>>>> Oodles of hard disk space.
>>
>> 	Have you never done updates that required a reboot?
>
> Only the kernel.
> And if your kernel works and the update is not a top priority security
> bug fix, why reboot?
>
>>
>> 	I get those on a regular basis.  Which reminds me, I
>> have to reboot to Mageia 4.1 to check for updates.
>
> Why in th eworld would you reboot to check for updates? You can check
> for and install updates without rebooting. MCC or
> urpmi.update -a
> urpmi --auto-select
> either will work.\

	Yes but I am running in Mageia 5 RC.  So it would be hard to
update my Mageia 4.1 from there.  I presently have a working triple
boot Windows 8.1, Mageia 4.1 and Mageia 5 RC which I have been using
for some days now.   5RC is pretty tight but it rebooted spontaneously
after a lockup the other day.

	Kernels above 4.x should not even require that reboot.

>
>>
>> 	Oh well later.
>>
>> 	bliss

	bliss still.

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#14869

On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:29:12 -0400, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

> 	Yes but I am running in Mageia 5 RC.  So it would be hard to
> update my Mageia 4.1 from there.  I presently have a working triple

#!/bin/bash
MountPoint=/b1
for dir in dev proc run sys ; do mount --bind /$dir $MountPoint/$dir ; done
chroot $MountPoint

Change the mountpoint to point to the 4.1 install. Once in the chroot,
install the updates. Use the exit command to exit the chroot.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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#14873

On 05/24/2015 08:44 PM, David W. Hodgins wrote:

> On Sun, 24 May 2015 19:29:12 -0400, Bobbie Sellers
> <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>>     Yes but I am running in Mageia 5 RC.  So it would be hard to
>> update my Mageia 4.1 from there.  I presently have a working triple
>
> #!/bin/bash
> MountPoint=/b1
> for dir in dev proc run sys ; do mount --bind /$dir $MountPoint/$dir ; done
> chroot $MountPoint
>
> Change the mountpoint to point to the 4.1 install. Once in the chroot,
> install the updates. Use the exit command to exit the chroot.

	Well when I feel more competent at BASH-fu I may try that.
	Or maybe I will just wait until Mageia 5 comes out and then scrub the 4.1.

>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>

	Because I am not an expert, just a user and considering Usenet's
capability for typing errors multiplied by my dyspraxia it is better
for me to use the reboot procedure since I am not looking to set
records for up-time.  After all I have to put the machine into 
hibernation twice a month to pack it up with my smaller external
drive and my portable DVD/CD R/W drive and a host of previously
made bootable DVD and CDs and a few pounds of other equipment
to go to the SF-LUG meeting.
	Last time I did that I got to the meeting and it would not
reboot (under Mageia 4.1). Very embarrassing.  It was due apparently
to incomplete updates. I reported this and was informed of the need to 
wait for all the updates to propagate to mirrors and of a command to
resolve the problem permitting me to escape the re-install next time.

	bliss

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#14871

On 24/05/15 20:37, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 05/24/2015 09:11 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 24/05/15 14:33, lilzebra68@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I have a Fedora18 laptop that runs nicely.
>>>
>>> In the past when I've shut down I've used the Shutdown and other times
>>> Log Out features.
>>>
>>> Recently I've been trying to see how long in time I can keep powered
>>> up without having to do a total Reboot.
>>>
>>> When I reach somewhere into the 3rd day and I do a Log Out, Linux will
>>> go into a char. mode screen instead of the GDM and when I try and
>>> re-login, it just sits there with the cursor.
>>>
>>> When I do a Ctrl-Alt-Del, that's when it reboots.
>>
>>
>> I've never HAD to reboot a running system. You must have some rubbish
>> program running....
>>
>> $ uptime
>>   17:10:58 up 213 days, 19:25,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
>>
>>
>>>
>>> System info
>>> ------------
>>>
>>> Lenovo T61 i686 Duo Core 2.1 GHz
>>> 2 GB RAM
>>> 160 GB DASD
>>> Linux Fedora 18
>>>
>>> Oodles of hard disk space.
>
>      Have you never done updates that required a reboot?
>

Only kernel or grub updates conceivably need reboots and then its not 
mandatory unless you want to install and use the update then and there.


>      I get those on a regular basis.  Which reminds me, I
> have to reboot to Mageia 4.1 to check for updates.
>
>      Oh well later.
>
>      bliss
>
>
>


-- 
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in 
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in 
someone else's pocket.

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#14859

On Sunday, 24 May 2015 11:11:32 UTC-5, The Natural Philosopher  wrote:
> On 24/05/15 14:33, lilzebra68@gmail.com wrote:
> > I have a Fedora18 laptop that runs nicely.
> >
> > In the past when I've shut down I've used the Shutdown and other times Log Out features.
> >
> > Recently I've been trying to see how long in time I can keep powered up without having to do a total Reboot.
> >
> > When I reach somewhere into the 3rd day and I do a Log Out, Linux will go into a char. mode screen instead of the GDM and when I try and re-login, it just sits there with the cursor.
> >
> > When I do a Ctrl-Alt-Del, that's when it reboots.
> 
> 
> I've never HAD to reboot a running system. You must have some rubbish 
> program running....
> 
> $ uptime
>   17:10:58 up 213 days, 19:25,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
> 
> 
> >
> > System info
> > ------------
> >
> > Lenovo T61 i686 Duo Core 2.1 GHz
> > 2 GB RAM
> > 160 GB DASD
> > Linux Fedora 18
> >
> > Oodles of hard disk space.
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in 
> the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in 
> someone else's pocket.

Is it possible a corrupted MATE setup could be causing an improper Log Out?

I have another issue with MATE that when I use the LibreOffice 3.x or 4.x program, the GNOME menu bar disappears and I have to Ctrl-Alt-Del to get it back.

So I suspect it could be something like that, or something else.

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#14874

On 2015-05-24, James Jaworski wrote:
> So I suspect it could be something like that, or something else.

LOL.  Isn't that always the case?
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#14878

On 2015-05-25, Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> wrote:

> On 2015-05-24, James Jaworski wrote:
>
>> So I suspect it could be something like that, or something else.
>
> LOL.  Isn't that always the case?

"It's always something.  If it's not one thing it's another."
  -- Roseanne Roseannadanna

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#14861

The Natural Philosopher wrote on 24. May 2015:
>
> On 24/05/15 14:33, lilzebra68@gmail.com wrote:
>> I have a Fedora18 laptop that runs nicely.
>>
>> In the past when I've shut down I've used the Shutdown and other times Log Out features.
>>
>> Recently I've been trying to see how long in time I can keep powered up without having to do a total Reboot.
>>
>> When I reach somewhere into the 3rd day and I do a Log Out, Linux will go into a char. mode screen instead of the GDM and when I try and re-login, it just sits there with the cursor.

Check log files - journal and especially the logs Xorg generates -
usually found under /var/log for hints.

>> When I do a Ctrl-Alt-Del, that's when it reboots.

That means the system was still alive and the problem likely does not
involve core components (kernel, base programs).

Anyway, before you reboot, log in as root and try

service gdm3 start

(might also just be "service gdm start"). If X comes back, let it run for
another 3 days or more to see if it happens again.

> I've never HAD to reboot a running system. You must have some rubbish
> program running....

My guess too. May be a memory leak or something which might eventually
cause an OOM kill.

> $ uptime
>  17:10:58 up 213 days, 19:25,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00

Bragger. ;-)
-- 
Andreas

I use a Unix based operating system, which means I get laid almost as often
as I have to reboot my computer.

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#14862

>
>> $ uptime
>>  17:10:58 up 213 days, 19:25,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.00
>
> Bragger. ;-)

$uptime
 15:54:50 up 289 days,  4:38,  4 users,  load average: 0.19, 0.16, 0.21

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#14868

On Sun, 24 May 2015 18:59:58 -0400, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

> $uptime
>  15:54:50 up 289 days,  4:38,  4 users,  load average: 0.19, 0.16, 0.21

Given that every kernel update in Mageia 4 has been security related,
what kernel are you running?

$ rpm -qa|grep ^kernel-desktop-latest
kernel-desktop-latest-3.14.43-1.mga4

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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#14870

On 2015-05-25, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2015 18:59:58 -0400, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
>> $uptime
>>  15:54:50 up 289 days,  4:38,  4 users,  load average: 0.19, 0.16, 0.21
>
> Given that every kernel update in Mageia 4 has been security related,
> what kernel are you running?

Worse than that. MGA3 on that machine.

>
> $ rpm -qa|grep ^kernel-desktop-latest
> kernel-desktop-latest-3.14.43-1.mga4
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>

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