Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.os.linux.misc > #37622 > unrolled thread

what does 'live' mean?

Back to article view | Back to comp.os.linux.misc

Contents

  what does 'live' mean? vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2023-03-24 20:29 +0000
    Re: what does 'live' mean? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2023-03-24 20:50 +0000
    Re: what does 'live' mean? "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2023-03-24 17:23 -0400
    Re: what does 'live' mean? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2023-03-24 20:56 -0700
      Re: what does 'live' mean? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-03-25 15:19 -0400
        Re: what does 'live' mean? "27E.G756" <27E.G756@noq24u.net> - 2023-03-26 01:37 -0400
    Re: what does 'live' mean? "27E.G756" <27E.G756@noq24u.net> - 2023-03-26 01:33 -0400
    Re: what does 'live' mean? vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2023-03-29 16:51 +0000

#37622 — what does 'live' mean?

I just assume it means bootable/installable ISO..


-- 
	 Vasos Panagiotopoulos  panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
  ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice.  Everything fully disclaimed.}---

[toc] | [next] | [standalone]

#37623

vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com writes:

> I just assume it means bootable/installable ISO..

To me it means you can run the OS from the ISO without installing it.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#37624

On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 16:29:45 -0400, <vjp2.at@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com> wrote:

> I just assume it means bootable/installable ISO..

If you look at Mageia https://www.mageia.org/en-gb/downloads/

The classic iso images boot to an installer the includes partitioning, selecting
and installing one or more desktop environments, various configuration options
such as networking, etc., all used to install linux onto the hard drive. Things
like running firefox or other applications are not supported while the installer
is in control. The classic iso images are intended to be burned to an optical
disk, or copied to a usb stick using a dd like tool.

The live iso images boot to the selected KDE Plasma, Gnome, or Xfce4 desktop
environment, which is then able to run things like firefox or other applications
without touching the hard drive. If a usb stick is used rather then an optical
disk, then a partition can be added to store changes made while the live iso is
running (aka persistence) when rebooting the live iso. Whether persistence is used
or not, the live iso image can also be used to install linux onto the hard drive if
desired, and changes made while running the iso image in live mode are kept.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#37628

On 3/24/23 13:29, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> I just assume it means bootable/installable ISO..
> 

	Live means an iso file which can be run from
booting up.  Some are not installable and many these days have
persistent memory if written to Flash Drive of appropriate size.
I think Knoppix had both features as long as 3.9 but certainly
that has been the case for some time.  Most work on DVDs as
well There are a fair number that are small enough to fit on
a cd.

	Some of the Install-able .ISO files can be run live but
distros marked *-Install-*-.iso files can boot up a Linux Kernel
and run an installation script including partitioning and then
expanding and copying the significant files to the appropriate
partitions.   Some are using systems that are run strictly from
USB and some come as compressed images that can be checksumed,
opened and the .img file copied to whatever media.

	My the wonders of the modern world, I used to install
Mandriva from 6 CDs which were sent to me as iso files to be
boot-ably written to the 6 CDs RW but they came to me on a
DVD and I had to use the tools on XP to extract the iso files
and write them.
	The guy who mailed me the DVD is still a regular correspondent
as we turned out both to be interested in manga and anime.

	bliss - good luck to you.

-- 
bliss dash SF 4 ever at dslextreme dot com

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#37639

On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 20:56:57 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>
> On 3/24/23 13:29, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>> I just assume it means bootable/installable ISO..
>> 
>
> 	Live means an iso file which can be run from
> booting up.  Some are not installable

Most "live distros" I came across also have the option to start an
installation.

My MINT was such an ISO. I chose to install it late 2021. Am typing this
article on it.
-- 
Andreas

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#37649

aOn 3/25/23 3:19 PM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 20:56:57 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>
>> On 3/24/23 13:29, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>>> I just assume it means bootable/installable ISO..
>>>
>>
>> 	Live means an iso file which can be run from
>> booting up.  Some are not installable
> 
> Most "live distros" I came across also have the option to start an
> installation.
> 
> My MINT was such an ISO. I chose to install it late 2021. Am typing this
> article on it.

   MOST "live" distros now offer a proper install option,
   but not ALL of them.

   IMHO, for most, START with a "live" distro and then if
   it seems OK you can initiate the HDD install.

   Live distros are also top-notch for fix-ups you cannot
   do within the existing system - like using gparted to
   change the size of your "/" partition. Did that thursday.
   Easier than the "manual partitioning" crap ...

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#37648

On 3/24/23 4:29 PM, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> I just assume it means bootable/installable ISO..

   It means you CAN run it without officially "installing"
   it to a HDD partition. Live distros are nice.

   Usually, when booting, yer BIOS will display a message
   like "press F2 for options" and you DO THAT. Then go
   to the BOOT menu and pick the UEFI stick or DVD image
   you wanna "override" start. Some BIOS will let you
   default to a stick on boot, but these days it's best
   to best to be able to explicitly choose the UEFI
   version to start.

   Not EVERY 'live' distro can be "installed", but MOST can
   these days.

   I prefer MX Linux Live or Debian Live. MX has more neat
   trix out of the box, Deb is more basic/stable. IMHO
   Deb/LXDE Live is the cat's meow. I just installed a
   multi-use server using that.

   There's "Ubuntu Server" ... but Canonical has drifted
   off to some strange corner of late. Half the time it
   tries to push you into its 'cloud' crap and I've even
   had instances of where it won't even boot because it's
   looking for your 'cloud' accounts that don't exist. On
   20.04 I had to use a live distro to physically obliterate
   some executables from /usr/bin and /usr/share just to
   get past those 'cloud' issues.

   The latest US, even their "snap" system didn't work worth a
   damn - had to install Lynx and download the real FireFox
   installer ! In any case you spend an hour REMOVING/DISABLING
   a bunch of obnoxious stuff on UServer. No thanks. No More.

   Vanilla Deb makes a GREAT and efficient server. Same
   goes for the "mother" versions of most distros - like Arch
   or Slack. After IBM/RHEL, that branch is kinda dead to
   anyone who doesn't wanna be running 'free' alpha/beta code.

   BTW ... tried Deb BookWorm the other day. Alas it's still
   kinda alpha and the software base has NOT caught up yet.
   I saw versions of things there with odd version numbers
   that don't even appear on the GitHub pages - rude patches.
   IMHO, wait for Deb 12.1x  :-)

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#37696

Thanks

-- 
	 Vasos Panagiotopoulos  panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
  ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice.  Everything fully disclaimed.}---

[toc] | [prev] | [standalone]

Back to top | Article view | comp.os.linux.misc

csiph-web