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ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST

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  ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> - 2023-02-05 22:01 -0500
    Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2023-02-06 03:42 +0000
      Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> - 2023-02-06 00:31 -0500
        Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-02-06 18:18 +0000
          Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> - 2023-02-06 23:33 -0500
            Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-02-07 05:50 +0000
              Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> - 2023-02-09 21:22 -0500
                Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-02-10 18:59 +0000
                  Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-10 19:17 +0000
                  Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> - 2023-02-11 03:21 -0500
                    Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-02-11 18:07 +0000
                      Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST "24B.R869" <26B.R869@noaaada.net> - 2023-02-11 23:08 -0500
    Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-02-06 04:34 +0000
      Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> - 2023-02-06 00:52 -0500
        Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-02-06 18:17 +0000
          Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> - 2023-02-08 03:02 -0500
    Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-02-06 17:38 -0500
      Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> - 2023-02-06 23:54 -0500
        Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2023-02-07 13:59 +0000
          Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> - 2023-02-08 01:49 -0500
            Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-02-08 19:15 +0000
    Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2023-02-08 11:39 +0000
      Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2023-02-09 04:49 +1000
        Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net> - 2023-02-08 22:22 -0500
    Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST Tramiv <Tramiv@doe.com> - 2023-02-08 19:46 +0000

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#36964

On 2023-02-08, 26C.Z968 <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote:

> On 2/7/23 8:59 AM, Rich wrote:
>
>> What is more likely to happen is the AI's will allow an entire
>> population of people who can't create a program now (even stringing
>> 'modules' together in Bash) to create programs.  The results will
>> likely be rough and dirty, but for those folks will mostly achieve
>> their desired goal (provided everything aligns properly).

The phrase "script kiddies" comes to mind.

>    Oh, I understand (won't be TOO long before nobody does) - BUT,
>    if SuperCrapWare is super-CHEAPWare, with no annoying and
>    expensive humans in the loop anymore, it WILL prevail. That's
>    economics.

    There is scarcely anything in the world that some man cannot
    make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the
    people who consider price only are this man's lawful prey.
      -- John Ruskin (1819-1900)

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Microsoft is a dictatorship.
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  Apple is a cult.
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  Linux is anarchy.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  Pick your poison.

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#36959

This means that technically ChatGPT is a programming language. Not a
very reliable one though.

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#36963

Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
> This means that technically ChatGPT is a programming language. Not a
> very reliable one though.

Yes it occours to me that the only way it can really be more than a
continuously-changing, undocumented, programming language, is if
you get a human-like two-way exchange with it. Something like:
"You mean like this?", "yeah, but so it does this when you do
that and that", "but then what happens when that is this?", "oh,
well then we'll have to do this before that and that". In other
words the AI actually has to be intelligent, not just a way of
shuffling code found on GitHub.

But it might get there eventually.

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#36966

On 2/8/23 1:49 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
>> This means that technically ChatGPT is a programming language. Not a
>> very reliable one though.
> 
> Yes it occours to me that the only way it can really be more than a
> continuously-changing, undocumented, programming language, is if
> you get a human-like two-way exchange with it. Something like:
> "You mean like this?", "yeah, but so it does this when you do
> that and that", "but then what happens when that is this?", "oh,
> well then we'll have to do this before that and that". In other
> words the AI actually has to be intelligent, not just a way of
> shuffling code found on GitHub.
> 
> But it might get there eventually.


   I suspect it will "get there" a lot sooner than
   you'd like to believe. HUGE money is going into
   this stuff.

   "LegoWare" isn't all so alien. What happens if you
   need to write a pgm, 'C' or Python or whatever ?
   You know what the pgm needs to do, and then go
   hunting for ways to reach that goal. You'll goog
   (or Duck if yer smarter) to find libs that can
   collect clients IP addr/info, create sockets or
   whatever and add them to your pgm.

   NONE of us truly "write from scratch" anymore - like
   assembler (unless you do embedded with TEENY little
   microcontrollers). We rely on the inbuilt and add-on
   routines provided by "somebodies" who have (hopefully)
   studied the particular little issue far more than we
   have. Like medicine or most of the sciences or most
   ANYTHING with depth and breadth these days NOBODY knows
   it all - "specialism/ists" rule. You lego their stuff
   together to achieve your desired outcome.

   Now neat tricks to speed along dealing with the intermediate
   info ... humans ARE still better at that, but it CAN be done,
   even if inefficiently, by the "lego" approach.

   Inefficient DOES NOT MATTER if the product involves fewer
   or no annoying expensive humans in the chain. It'll be
   cheaper & easier for the pointy-haired bosses so they
   WILL go that route as fast as they can. M$ and friends
   are more than willing to help out ........

   Hmmm ... why ARE the M$/Chat/etc programmers 'suicidal' ???

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#36965

On 2023-02-06, 26C.Z968 <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote:
>
> As well as producing convincing text in English, ChatGPT can
> also write computer code in languages such as Python.
>
>

Yes it does but does it solves the problems, is able to solve real life
problems?

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