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The boring Linux habit that saves machines

Started byTheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null>
First post2026-05-30 22:28 +0000
Last post2026-06-07 01:33 -0400
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  The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-30 22:28 +0000
    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-30 23:51 -0400
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 04:23 +0000
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 02:26 -0400
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 06:41 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 03:37 -0400
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 07:46 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 08:55 +0000
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 12:07 +0200
                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 10:14 +0000
                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 13:06 +0200
                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 11:12 +0000
                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:45 +0000
                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 05:13 -0400
                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 18:30 +0000
                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 20:49 +0200
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 02:00 -0400
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 09:07 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 02:11 -0400
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 09:10 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 02:15 -0400
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-06-01 12:20 +0300
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-01 09:38 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 02:20 -0400
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 11:08 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 23:58 -0400
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-04 11:47 +0000
                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 11:57 -0400
                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-05 12:53 +0000
                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-05 17:35 +0100
                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-05 16:42 +0000
                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 00:06 -0400
                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-06 10:35 +0100
                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 03:35 -0400
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 13:39 +0100
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 14:41 +0100
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 00:04 -0400
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:34 +0100
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 18:08 +0000
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 21:24 +0100
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 01:46 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 03:09 -0400
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:17 +0100
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 01:33 -0400
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:53 +0100
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 18:52 +0200
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 21:47 +0100
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 02:58 +0000
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 01:36 -0400
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:46 +0100
                                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:15 +0000
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 07:52 +0100
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:52 +0100
                                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-06-11 18:47 +0200
                                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:00 +0100
                                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 16:59 +0000
                                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:02 +0100
                                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 18:21 +0000
                                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:58 +0100
                                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 19:29 +0000
                                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 20:36 +0100
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 16:55 +0000
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 01:16 -0400
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:28 +0000
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:42 +0100
                                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 16:41 +0000
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:40 +0100
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:35 +0000
                                                            [OT] TINA applied to political opponents (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 09:35 +0100
                                                              Re: [OT] TINA applied to political opponents The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:07 +0100
                                                                Re: [OT] TINA applied to political opponents Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-12 14:18 +0000
                                                                  Re: [OT] TINA applied to political opponents The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 16:46 +0100
                                                                    Re: [OT] TINA applied to political opponents rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 19:02 +0000
                                                                      Re: [OT] TINA applied to political opponents The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 14:00 +0100
                                                                        Re: [OT] TINA applied to political opponents rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 19:39 +0000
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-12 02:52 -0400
                                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:20 +0100
                                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 18:16 +0000
                                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 03:52 -0400
                                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:56 +0100
                                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:53 +0100
                                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 01:46 -0400
                                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 06:20 +0000
                                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 03:54 -0400
                                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 14:06 +0100
                                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 19:21 +0000
                                                    [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 09:06 +0100
                                                      Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 12:03 +0100
                                                        Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:44 +0000
                                                          Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-11 21:18 +0200
                                                          Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:12 +0100
                                                            Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 01:27 -0400
                                                              Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 06:23 +0000
                                                                Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 04:01 -0400
                                                      Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:40 +0000
                                                        Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:07 +0100
                                                          Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 19:17 +0000
                                                            Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 14:03 +0100
                                                              Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 20:06 +0000
                                                          Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 00:58 -0400
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-10 19:22 +0000
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 21:48 +0100
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 00:57 -0400
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:27 +0000
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 18:28 +0000
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 02:54 -0400
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 01:27 -0400
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 10:57 +0200
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-06-07 08:00 -0700
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:35 +0100
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:48 +0000
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:53 +0100
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 08:26 +0100
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 23:06 -0400
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 00:11 -0400
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-09 17:42 +0000
                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-06 10:39 +0100
                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 03:44 -0400
                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 23:55 -0400
                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 09:40 +0000
                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:47 +0000
                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-07 13:58 +0200
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-07 20:40 +0000
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:39 +0000
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 23:00 -0400
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 04:36 +0000
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 02:30 -0400
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:19 +0100
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 23:53 -0400
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-08 14:23 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 02:28 -0400
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 18:24 +0000
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 02:40 -0400
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-10 19:17 +0000
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 00:56 -0400
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:24 +0000
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 18:08 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-08 22:42 +0200
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:45 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 01:44 +0000
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 03:08 -0400
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:07 +0200
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 01:03 -0400
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 10:43 +0200
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 10:52 +0200
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 00:33 -0400
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:03 +0000
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 02:42 -0400
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:26 +0000
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:31 +0200
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-12 02:37 -0400
                                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 18:13 +0000
                                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 03:46 -0400
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-09 18:31 +0000
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 03:16 -0400
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:54 +0100
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2026-06-08 21:46 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 04:50 +0000
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 03:16 -0400
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 08:49 +0100
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 01:48 -0400
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:11 +0200
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 01:32 -0400
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-10 05:38 +0000
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 10:49 +0200
                                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:08 +0000
                                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 00:31 +0000
                                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-11 03:31 +0000
                                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 04:36 +0000
                                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 08:37 +0100
                                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-11 19:02 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-09 18:31 +0000
                                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 02:54 -0400
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-08 14:12 +0000
                                      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 18:08 +0000
                                        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 01:30 +0000
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:15 +0200
                                          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-09 18:31 +0000
                              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 14:30 +0100
                                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 23:38 -0400
                                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:22 +0100
                                    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 00:28 -0400
                            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 04:03 -0400
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 18:42 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 08:53 +0000
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 01:53 -0400
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 08:52 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 01:41 -0400
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 06:41 +0000
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 03:07 -0400
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 13:28 +0200
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 19:16 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 05:18 -0400
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-07 18:59 +0000
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 09:40 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:51 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 04:56 -0400
    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-05-31 16:43 +0800
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 08:48 +0000
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-31 10:16 +0000
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 10:22 +0000
    Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 06:38 +0000
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 03:04 -0400
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 13:32 +0200
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 11:34 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 14:01 +0200
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-09 20:29 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 22:52 +0200
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 04:36 -0400
                  Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-10 08:48 +0000
      Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-06 09:17 +0100
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 09:40 +0000
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:57 +0000
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:11 +0100
            Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-09 20:30 +0000
              Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:19 +0000
                Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-10 00:22 +0000
          Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 04:18 -0400
        Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 01:33 -0400

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#87931

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-13 13:53 +0100
Message-ID<110jjsl$2uagj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87906
On 12/06/2026 19:16, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 12:20:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> The nations that comprise it are the real power houses,
>> Europe is a bit light on oil and gas, and the coal has mostly run out,
>> but its very big on smarts.
> 
> Well, one nation was the powerhouse but it seems to be running out of
> power.
A fundamental difference between Europe and the USA is that despite 
being overall of similar size population and affluence, Europe does not 
believe it is the greatest, nor does it brag all the time about how 
fucking wonderful it is.

-- 
"A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight 
and understanding".

Marshall McLuhan

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#87921

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-13 01:46 -0400
Message-ID<MY6cnV9K1r3nc7H3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87901
On 6/12/26 07:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 12/06/2026 07:52, c186282 wrote:
>> EU ... how much DOES it make anymore ? Seems like
>>    China has taken over.
>>
> The EU makes nothing, It is just a bunch of ten thousand bureaucrats who 
> bribed national leaders to enslave its populations.
> 
> The nations that comprise it are the real power houses,
> Europe is a bit light on oil and gas, and the coal has mostly run out, 
> but its very big on smarts.

   Smarts are good ... but can be co-opted by the
   next bully-boy.

   Mostly that's China now.

> It grows food all the way down to Africa and African nations are now 
> farming at higher efficiencies than ever before.

   Meaning its food can be CUT OFF easily ... those
   3rd-worlders have become its masters because they
   control the food/materials supply.

> It produces a range of consumer goods. And farming equipment that works 
> in Europe's smaller field sizes.
> 
> It works with the far east to jointly produce goods that have global 
> appeal.
> It has never been an insular place. It has always been cosmopolitan and 
> a world trading power. That's what its armies and Navies were for. To 
> protect trade. Unlike the USA.

   Ummmm ... you seem trapped in some sort of illusion.

   Those who control your STUFF are those who control YOU.
   "Stuff" is required to be something, to LIVE.

   The EU does NOT control much of its Stuff anymore.

   Trump saw that happening with the USA ... and then
   aggressively moved to COUNTER that. Made In USA
   is incredibly important. USA still had enough leverage,
   so he leveraged that before it was Too Late.

   Love him or hate him or not even sure who he is, the
   USA will be a LOT better off.

   EU ... Owned Property of Vlad and/or Xi. Try to dress it
   up any way you will, no diff.

>>    Anyway, in many ways, the USA had been carrying
>>    Europe on it's back since 1945.
>>
> Europe is still carrying America on its back.

   Oh WOW ... what propaganda sites have YOU been
   downloading for the past 25+ years ??????

   My usual daily thing is to go thru, now 15,
   world news sites and a few sci/biz/tech/$$$ sites.
   Put Bloomberg on the tube to make noise when I
   go to bed (less loud/stupid commercials too).

   Sometimes a few more than 15. This is how you
   get the 'vibe', the way things are working and
   why. The 'realpolitik' is in there.

   NOTHING like what's on MSNBC or even FOX.

   The ghost of Machiavelli lives on.

   Anyway, the EU is going down, or ALREADY down
   depending on yer criteria. Did it to themselves.

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#87922

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-13 06:20 +0000
Message-ID<n94b68F1ntvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87921
On Sat, 13 Jun 2026 01:46:01 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Trump saw that happening with the USA ... and then aggressively moved
>    to COUNTER that. Made In USA is incredibly important. USA still had
>    enough leverage,
>    so he leveraged that before it was Too Late.

It's unfortunate he is so easily distracted and controlled by the 
Zionists. What we need is someone that is consistent and a GOP that 
doesn't kneecap him at every turn. Getting rid of the activist judges is 
necessary. None of that is going to happen with the current system.

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#87927

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-13 03:54 -0400
Message-ID<MY6cnVhK1r09kbD3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87922
On 6/13/26 02:20, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jun 2026 01:46:01 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Trump saw that happening with the USA ... and then aggressively moved
>>     to COUNTER that. Made In USA is incredibly important. USA still had
>>     enough leverage,
>>     so he leveraged that before it was Too Late.
> 
> It's unfortunate he is so easily distracted and controlled by the
> Zionists. What we need is someone that is consistent and a GOP that
> doesn't kneecap him at every turn. Getting rid of the activist judges is
> necessary. None of that is going to happen with the current system.

   WHAT Marxo-Commie shit ARE you reading ???

   Trump is anything but a 'zionist slave'.

   EXPAND your reading list.

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#87936

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-13 14:06 +0100
Message-ID<110jklg$2uagj$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87927
On 13/06/2026 08:54, c186282 wrote:
> On 6/13/26 02:20, rbowman wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Jun 2026 01:46:01 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>>     Trump saw that happening with the USA ... and then aggressively 
>>> moved
>>>     to COUNTER that. Made In USA is incredibly important. USA still had
>>>     enough leverage,
>>>     so he leveraged that before it was Too Late.
>>
>> It's unfortunate he is so easily distracted and controlled by the
>> Zionists. What we need is someone that is consistent and a GOP that
>> doesn't kneecap him at every turn. Getting rid of the activist judges is
>> necessary. None of that is going to happen with the current system.
> 
>    WHAT Marxo-Commie shit ARE you reading ???
> 
>    Trump is anything but a 'zionist slave'.
> 
>    EXPAND your reading list.
> 

Trump is for sale to the highest bidder, that's all. He has no 
principles ideals or morals.
In this he is similar to the Democrats.
The main difference is that in the scale of useful idiots, he has proved 
the most useful and the most idiotic.

Oh well. He will die soon.

-- 
“Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.”

H.L. Mencken, A Mencken Chrestomathy

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#87937

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-13 19:21 +0000
Message-ID<n95ou5F8crcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87927
On Sat, 13 Jun 2026 03:54:39 -0400, c186282 wrote:

> On 6/13/26 02:20, rbowman wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Jun 2026 01:46:01 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>> 
>>>     Trump saw that happening with the USA ... and then aggressively
>>>     moved to COUNTER that. Made In USA is incredibly important. USA
>>>     still had enough leverage,
>>>     so he leveraged that before it was Too Late.
>> 
>> It's unfortunate he is so easily distracted and controlled by the
>> Zionists. What we need is someone that is consistent and a GOP that
>> doesn't kneecap him at every turn. Getting rid of the activist judges
>> is necessary. None of that is going to happen with the current system.
> 
>    WHAT Marxo-Commie shit ARE you reading ???

The question is what shit are you reading? Townhall with Bauer explaining 
how great Israel is? He may be biased since he lives in Jerusalem. Try 
lewrockwell.com for a change. I don't agree with some of their stuff but 
they haven't drank the Kool-Aid. 

https://www.unz.com/

That one is probably too much for you.

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#87852 — [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines)

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-11 09:06 +0100
Subject[OT] Percetion of the USA abroad (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines)
Message-ID<110dqav$19h5s$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87810
On 2026-06-10, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2026-06-10 12:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 10/06/2026 06:33, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote:
>>>>> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>>>>>>> Oh well, same day, different war...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell
>>>>>> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Wow ... TDS even here .........
>>>>>
>>>> It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House.
>>>
>>>    Tisk !
>>>
>>  From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone
>> batshit crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal
>> collapse from Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second
>> coming of Trump, son of God.
>>
>> He's just a very naughty boy.
>
> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are friends.

If one takes "American" to mean "from the USA", it's not hard to imagine
that.

Besides what was already a not so stellar reputation, we now have that
nation repeatedly threatening to invade and annex parts of Denmark.

And, at the same time the USA takes strategic advantage of Washington
Treaty allied military installations in Europe for their middle east
warfare - at the very least they've been using FAP Air Base no. 4 - they
claim their allies "aren't helping" in the war. (But what war, you may
ask, given that reportedly there is no war going on, according to a US
citizen called [reads notes] Donald John Trump.)

This besides [gestures] everything else the US administration has been
doing.

Of course it isn't fair to extend judgement of the US administration to
all the US residents and citizens. Just like it wouldn't be fair to
extend any dissatisfaction with Japan to anybody of japanese heritage in
the USA after Pearl Harbor.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#87862 — Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-11 12:03 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad
Message-ID<110e4md$1cf90$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87852
On 11/06/2026 09:06, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2026-06-10, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-06-10 12:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 10/06/2026 06:33, c186282 wrote:
>>>> On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>> On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him.
>>>>>>>> Oh well, same day, different war...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell
>>>>>>> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Wow ... TDS even here .........
>>>>>>
>>>>> It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House.
>>>>
>>>>     Tisk !
>>>>
>>>   From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone
>>> batshit crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal
>>> collapse from Trump, sonofabitch,  to those believing in the second
>>> coming of Trump, son of God.
>>>
>>> He's just a very naughty boy.
>>
>> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are friends.
> 
> If one takes "American" to mean "from the USA", it's not hard to imagine
> that.
> 
> Besides what was already a not so stellar reputation, we now have that
> nation repeatedly threatening to invade and annex parts of Denmark.
> 
And Canada. Don't forget Canada.

> And, at the same time the USA takes strategic advantage of Washington
> Treaty allied military installations in Europe for their middle east
> warfare - at the very least they've been using FAP Air Base no. 4 - they
> claim their allies "aren't helping" in the war. (But what war, you may
> ask, given that reportedly there is no war going on, according to a US
> citizen called [reads notes] Donald John Trump.)
> 
I hear the tankers taking off to refuel US military jets on their way to 
the middle East every other day. And the odd US fighter-bomber.

I had to laugh. US welshed on its commitment to Ukraine, attacked Iran 
and then expected NATO to help it wipe its bottom after shitting all 
over Hormuz.

Payback for Suez.


> This besides [gestures] everything else the US administration has been
> doing.
> 
> Of course it isn't fair to extend judgement of the US administration to
> all the US residents and citizens. Just like it wouldn't be fair to
> extend any dissatisfaction with Japan to anybody of japanese heritage in
> the USA after Pearl Harbor.
> 
Only those ones who are still  glorifying a narcissistic idiot.

As I have repeatedly said, the American Librals deserved Trump.
But for real Republicans to carry on supporting him is unforgivable.
Even Marjorie 'Traitor' Green has ditched him.

We have all had our fun. Watching the USA tear itself apart.


-- 
"A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight 
and understanding".

Marshall McLuhan

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#87872 — Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-11 17:44 +0000
SubjectRe: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad
Message-ID<n90afbFca6vU8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87862
On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 12:03:41 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> I had to laugh. US welshed on its commitment to Ukraine, attacked Iran
> and then expected NATO to help it wipe its bottom after shitting all
> over Hormuz.
> 
> Payback for Suez.

Are you still hurting over when Eisenhower told Britain, France, and 
Israel to back off? That's the last time the US had a harsh word for 
Israel. 

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#87874 — Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-06-11 21:18 +0200
SubjectRe: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad
Message-ID<a9erfmx8vc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#87872
On 2026-06-11 19:44, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 12:03:41 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> I had to laugh. US welshed on its commitment to Ukraine, attacked Iran
>> and then expected NATO to help it wipe its bottom after shitting all
>> over Hormuz.
>>
>> Payback for Suez.
> 
> Are you still hurting over when Eisenhower told Britain, France, and
> Israel to back off? That's the last time the US had a harsh word for
> Israel.

Way before my time.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87900 — Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-12 12:12 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad
Message-ID<110gpi1$23pa0$13@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87872
On 11/06/2026 18:44, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 12:03:41 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> I had to laugh. US welshed on its commitment to Ukraine, attacked Iran
>> and then expected NATO to help it wipe its bottom after shitting all
>> over Hormuz.
>>
>> Payback for Suez.
> 
> Are you still hurting over when Eisenhower told Britain, France, and
> Israel to back off? That's the last time the US had a harsh word for
> Israel.

No, but we remember the US never gives anything out of principle, it 
only makes decisions that make it money.

Now it has an idiot in charge who thinks that making and breaking deals 
to save pennies now and forgoing dollars later, is a clever thing to do, 
we realise there is no point in dealing with a completely untrustworthy 
USA at all.

Business is built on trust.

No trust. No business


-- 
The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly 
diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential 
survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations 
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with 
what it actually is.

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#87920 — Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-13 01:27 -0400
SubjectRe: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad
Message-ID<d3Kdnd-c44DEd7H3nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87900
On 6/12/26 07:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 11/06/2026 18:44, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 12:03:41 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> I had to laugh. US welshed on its commitment to Ukraine, attacked Iran
>>> and then expected NATO to help it wipe its bottom after shitting all
>>> over Hormuz.
>>>
>>> Payback for Suez.
>>
>> Are you still hurting over when Eisenhower told Britain, France, and
>> Israel to back off? That's the last time the US had a harsh word for
>> Israel.
> 
> No, but we remember the US never gives anything out of principle, it 
> only makes decisions that make it money.

   Hey ... MONEY is IMPORTANT.

   Makes the world go 'round.

   Never forget that ... and there's NO escape
   that isn't ten times worse.

> Now it has an idiot in charge who th

inks that making and breaking deals
> to save pennies now and forgoing dollars later, is a clever thing to do, 
> we realise there is no point in dealing with a completely untrustworthy 
> USA at all.
> 
> Business is built on trust.
> 
> No trust. No business

   Business is built on RITUALS ... traditional ways of
   dealing with whomever. Has nothing to do with "trust",
   never did. Whomever, lock 'em in financially and
   legally. THEN you can, sort of, "trust"  :-)

   OR hire some 'ninjas' to DEAL the old-fashioned way.

   "Dominance" really seems hardwired-in to the human
   psyche ... as with MANY other species. It's part of
   what we are. Hippie-dippy thinking won't change a
   single thing.

   Business is WAR by (usually) alternate means.

   Saw a couple of little lizards yesterday, puffing
   themselves up to each other on my windowsill.
   Interesting postures.  After about half an hour of
   that they ATTACKED each other. Impressive fight.
   Must have been cool when 60-foot dinos did the
   same thing.

   Sorry, NOT just humans ... like the bulk of earthly
   life. Get ahead by pushing others out of your way -
   peck 'em on the head until they submit. Hell, even
   bacteria-sized things FIGHT. Win, Or Else.

   Doesn't fit the vegan hippie-dippy minus-gonads
   model ? Tough. Not sure even 'gonads' are required -
   ever see how even kindergarten kids organize a
   threat/dominance hierarchy - boys AND girls ?

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#87923 — Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-13 06:23 +0000
SubjectRe: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad
Message-ID<n94batF1ntvU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87920
On Sat, 13 Jun 2026 01:27:44 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Doesn't fit the vegan hippie-dippy minus-gonads model ? Tough. Not
>    sure even 'gonads' are required -
>    ever see how even kindergarten kids organize a threat/dominance
>    hierarchy - boys AND girls ?

I missed kindergarten so I'm inadequately socialize. They built their 
hierarchies and I ignored them.

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#87928 — Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-13 04:01 -0400
SubjectRe: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad
Message-ID<MY6cnVtK1r3Vk7D3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87923
On 6/13/26 02:23, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jun 2026 01:27:44 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Doesn't fit the vegan hippie-dippy minus-gonads model ? Tough. Not
>>     sure even 'gonads' are required -
>>     ever see how even kindergarten kids organize a threat/dominance
>>     hierarchy - boys AND girls ?
> 
> I missed kindergarten so I'm inadequately socialize. They built their
> hierarchies and I ignored them.

   Good and bad with that.

   DID find ...

   There was a "Simpsons" episode that made it clear
   that the school principal was sympathetic, indeed
   kind of encouraged, the "bully boyz" - his little
   "enforcers". Looking back, I see this was very
   true even in my own experiences. The bully boyz
   ALWAYS got away with it, protected. Resist and
   YOU were totally persecuted.

   And yes, this hierarchy started even in kindergarten.
   The more boisterous got control, kept control, and
   were ENCOURAGED to have control. Five years old and
   there were already The Masters.

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#87871 — Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines)

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-11 17:40 +0000
SubjectRe: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines)
Message-ID<n90a7uFca6vU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87852
On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 09:06:55 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote:

> Besides what was already a not so stellar reputation, we now have that
> nation repeatedly threatening to invade and annex parts of Denmark.

While I fully understand Danish pride passing off their problem child 
island to someone else wouldn't be all that bad. 

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#87899 — Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-12 12:07 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad
Message-ID<110gpa7$23pa0$12@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87871
On 11/06/2026 18:40, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 09:06:55 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote:
> 
>> Besides what was already a not so stellar reputation, we now have that
>> nation repeatedly threatening to invade and annex parts of Denmark.
> 
> While I fully understand Danish pride passing off their problem child
> island to someone else wouldn't be all that bad.

  What problem is it to Denmark?
-- 
Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead 
to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

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#87912 — Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-12 19:17 +0000
SubjectRe: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad
Message-ID<n934alFprtfU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87899
On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 12:07:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 11/06/2026 18:40, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 09:06:55 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote:
>> 
>>> Besides what was already a not so stellar reputation, we now have that
>>> nation repeatedly threatening to invade and annex parts of Denmark.
>> 
>> While I fully understand Danish pride passing off their problem child
>> island to someone else wouldn't be all that bad.
> 
>   What problem is it to Denmark?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Greenland

Unless someone finds worthwhile mineral resources and finds a way to 
exploit them it's a massive drain on the economy. There is also grumbling 
among the natives about independence although I have no idea how they 
would make a go of it. 

There's a reason the Norse packed up their boats and left. Denmark is 
touchy since they've lost territory since Kalamr and there isn't much 
left.

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#87935 — Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-13 14:03 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad
Message-ID<110jkfn$2uagj$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87912
On 12/06/2026 20:17, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 12:07:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 11/06/2026 18:40, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 09:06:55 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>
>>>> Besides what was already a not so stellar reputation, we now have that
>>>> nation repeatedly threatening to invade and annex parts of Denmark.
>>>
>>> While I fully understand Danish pride passing off their problem child
>>> island to someone else wouldn't be all that bad.
>>
>>    What problem is it to Denmark?
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Greenland
> 
> Unless someone finds worthwhile mineral resources and finds a way to
> exploit them it's a massive drain on the economy. 

It's less than $1bn 0.2% of Denmarks GDP


> There is also grumbling
> among the natives about independence although I have no idea how they
> would make a go of it.
> 
No, there isn't.

> There's a reason the Norse packed up their boats and left. Denmark is
> touchy since they've lost territory since Kalamr and there isn't much
> left.
> 
Right, who told you that?
More  Trumpian propaganda?


-- 
Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice.
  – Will Durant

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#87941 — Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-06-13 20:06 +0000
SubjectRe: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad
Message-ID<n95rinF8crcU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87935
On Sat, 13 Jun 2026 14:03:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 12/06/2026 20:17, rbowman wrote:
>> Unless someone finds worthwhile mineral resources and finds a way to
>> exploit them it's a massive drain on the economy.
> 
> It's less than $1bn 0.2% of Denmarks GDP

Precisely. Greenland is a welfare state kept alive by people working for 
the government. I think the do export some halibut.

>> There's a reason the Norse packed up their boats and left. Denmark is
>> touchy since they've lost territory since Kalamr and there isn't much
>> left.
>> 
> Right, who told you that?
> More  Trumpian propaganda?

iirc, the Danes once ruled a large part of your island. They may have 
improved the gene pool but they lost the territory.  Kalmar under Margaret 
I included Denmark, Sweden, Norway, a bit of Finland, Iceland, Greenland, 
the Faroes, Shetland, and some of Orkney. 

I think Iceland was the last to go when it slipped away when the Danes 
were otherwise occupied in WWII. They did get Northern Schleswig back 
after the war. They probably would have liked more but considering the 
invasion by Germany was concluded during business hours they were 
concerned that Germany would rise again and be pissed off.

That's not Trump propaganda. I've nothing against Denmark. If fact I like 
their approach to migrants. 'Sweden is that way; keep walking'. However 
over the centuries their holdings have been whittled down. The US has had 
the use of Greenland but otherwise nobody really wanted it until Trump 
started his bluster. With him separating the bullshit from the pepper 
isn't possible.

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#87919 — Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-06-13 00:58 -0400
SubjectRe: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad
Message-ID<MY6cnVxK1r3VfrH3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#87899
On 6/12/26 07:07, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 11/06/2026 18:40, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 09:06:55 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>
>>> Besides what was already a not so stellar reputation, we now have that
>>> nation repeatedly threatening to invade and annex parts of Denmark.
>>
>> While I fully understand Danish pride passing off their problem child
>> island to someone else wouldn't be all that bad.
> 
>   What problem is it to Denmark?

   Hmmmmmmm .... SEEMS to have BECOME a Problem now.

   No, do NOT support the USA taking over. That's just
   Trump (intentionally) agitating things.

   But Denmark needs to put substantially more effort
   into Greenland. Not that there are so many people
   there - but it HAS become a STRATEGIC keystone.

   Denmark 'owns' it ... so DO RIGHT.

   Hey, have a number of Danish relatives, Have a
   little Danish flag on my wall. Don't want to see
   them caught up in all this. But, variants of "this"
   are inescapable. Just HAVE to navigate properly.

   Five or ten years, geographical features will no
   longer be very relevant for the military. It'll
   all be AI drones/missiles/micro-carriers. Even
   submarines will become far less useful.

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