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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2025-07-27 03:11 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-07-29 21:47 +0100 |
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Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 03:11 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 12:05 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 17:53 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 05:13 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-28 02:34 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 20:59 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 22:28 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-28 14:15 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 02:42 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:18 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-29 03:35 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 19:39 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 09:46 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-29 09:56 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 20:33 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 02:46 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-29 09:14 +1000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-19 02:41 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-21 07:48 +1000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 03:50 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-22 09:10 +1000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-27 14:06 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 18:00 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 05:10 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:24 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-29 03:38 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 10:50 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-29 10:57 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 13:10 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:13 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 19:46 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:16 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 00:30 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 00:35 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-29 17:51 -0700
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 04:44 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 02:03 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:22 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 18:24 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 23:36 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 06:31 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 13:50 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-30 07:46 -0700
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 02:21 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:25 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 19:13 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 01:02 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 03:18 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 13:39 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 18:36 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-30 06:31 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:28 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 19:24 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-29 10:16 -0700
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 19:35 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 20:35 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 00:28 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 19:50 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:19 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 17:40 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 00:56 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-31 06:01 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 22:21 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 05:17 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:26 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-28 15:56 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 16:54 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 09:50 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 10:57 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-27 17:49 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 17:55 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 22:37 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-28 06:34 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-28 03:28 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-07-28 08:36 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:29 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-29 04:05 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 11:08 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202507.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2025-07-29 13:45 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-30 08:59 +1000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-28 21:46 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 09:52 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 10:59 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 20:39 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:03 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-07-30 08:12 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 11:30 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-30 19:33 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 22:20 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 03:21 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-31 06:01 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 06:23 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 13:58 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 14:44 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:39 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:27 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-31 14:04 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:49 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-31 22:49 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 08:11 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-01 14:07 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 18:00 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-01 19:58 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-01 20:37 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 03:36 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-02 06:23 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 02:34 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 14:05 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-02 14:35 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 21:25 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 05:48 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 01:53 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-08-03 03:36 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 01:25 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 05:43 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-02 20:01 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-02 22:56 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 05:34 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-08-03 08:53 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-03 17:38 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-03 08:26 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 04:06 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-03 09:50 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 21:09 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-03 15:54 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 20:01 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 23:25 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 06:35 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 17:43 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:27 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-28 08:44 -0700
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 16:56 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 14:23 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 13:40 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-29 20:42 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:11 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-07-30 17:43 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-31 00:09 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 20:07 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-31 19:55 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-31 22:25 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-01 09:09 +1000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-01 00:54 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 08:35 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-01 01:44 +0000
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-31 22:52 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 08:25 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-01 08:14 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 01:34 -0400
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 08:50 -0700
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-04 19:00 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 11:11 -0700
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 11:01 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 12:32 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 11:47 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 12:58 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 12:58 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 21:32 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:20 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 21:25 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 07:48 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 12:52 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 13:52 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 14:20 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 16:07 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:20 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 14:49 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:19 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:18 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 14:38 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 21:27 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 20:44 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 12:57 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 12:02 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 14:23 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 13:33 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 15:55 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 16:23 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 07:49 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-06 08:21 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 11:11 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-08-06 12:08 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 11:18 +0100
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 13:53 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-06 13:52 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-29 22:18 +0200
Re: Minor Update - ATT Wireless Internet - SOME Issues Solved The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 21:47 +0100
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-05 21:25 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <6e2amlxisb.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #70382 |
On 2025-08-05 15:20, Marc Haber wrote: > "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> Found my notes on the device. It was a very nice device, except that it died too soon. >> >> http://gembird.nl/item.aspx?id=7416 >> >> EG-PMS2-LAN >> EnerGenie Programmable surge protector with LAN interface > > Those things have a really really bad reputation in my filter bubble. > Your experience adds to it. They do? I did not know. I really liked the thing, it was perfect for my usage. I have seen many others (single socket, usually), but they require an Android app and internet. This thing worked perfectly in LAN only and from Linux. Real pity the thing failed. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 07:48 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <106uqbo$1bj7o$1@news1.tnib.de> |
| In reply to | #70397 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >On 2025-08-05 15:20, Marc Haber wrote: >> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> Found my notes on the device. It was a very nice device, except that it died too soon. >>> >>> http://gembird.nl/item.aspx?id=7416 >>> >>> EG-PMS2-LAN >>> EnerGenie Programmable surge protector with LAN interface >> >> Those things have a really really bad reputation in my filter bubble. >> Your experience adds to it. > >They do? I did not know. I really liked the thing, it was perfect for my >usage. But it died the same way that at least five other units died in my filter bubble. I have one. I never plugged it in. And I probably never will. >I have seen many others (single socket, usually), but they require an >Android app and internet. This thing worked perfectly in LAN only and >from Linux. Most tuya devices can be crosscraded to Tasmota. You can buy single-socket thingies with Tasmota preinstalled from Amazon (look for Gosund or Nous). Tasmota does Wifi¹, it has a web interface and speaks MQTT. That's what you want in the 2020ies. Greetings Marc ¹ WPA Personal only, IPv4 only, but that's expected on hardward THIS tiny. Having Wifi ist just cheaper and easier electricitywise than Ethernet -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 12:52 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <2pobmlx9de.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #70428 |
On 2025-08-06 07:48, Marc Haber wrote: > "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> On 2025-08-05 15:20, Marc Haber wrote: >>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> Found my notes on the device. It was a very nice device, except that it died too soon. >>>> >>>> http://gembird.nl/item.aspx?id=7416 >>>> >>>> EG-PMS2-LAN >>>> EnerGenie Programmable surge protector with LAN interface >>> >>> Those things have a really really bad reputation in my filter bubble. >>> Your experience adds to it. >> >> They do? I did not know. I really liked the thing, it was perfect for my >> usage. > > But it died the same way that at least five other units died in my > filter bubble. I have one. I never plugged it in. And I probably never > will. > >> I have seen many others (single socket, usually), but they require an >> Android app and internet. This thing worked perfectly in LAN only and >>from Linux. > > Most tuya devices can be crosscraded to Tasmota. You can buy > single-socket thingies with Tasmota preinstalled from Amazon (look for > Gosund or Nous). Tasmota does Wifi¹, it has a web interface and speaks > MQTT. That's what you want in the 2020ies. Noted, thanks. > > Greetings > Marc > > ¹ WPA Personal only, IPv4 only, but that's expected on hardward THIS > tiny. Having Wifi ist just cheaper and easier electricitywise than > Ethernet For my use case, it has to be Ethernet. The task was to powercycle the router, when it hangs. When it hangs, WiFi dies. Only the switch section survives (and I also have a separate switch by it). Fortunately, I have a different router now. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 13:52 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <106vfl8$1d68p$1@news1.tnib.de> |
| In reply to | #70464 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >On 2025-08-06 07:48, Marc Haber wrote: >> Most tuya devices can be crosscraded to Tasmota. You can buy >> single-socket thingies with Tasmota preinstalled from Amazon (look for >> Gosund or Nous). Tasmota does Wifi¹, it has a web interface and speaks >> MQTT. That's what you want in the 2020ies. > >Noted, thanks. > >> >> Greetings >> Marc >> >> ¹ WPA Personal only, IPv4 only, but that's expected on hardward THIS >> tiny. Having Wifi ist just cheaper and easier electricitywise than >> Ethernet > >For my use case, it has to be Ethernet. > >The task was to powercycle the router, when it hangs. When it hangs, >WiFi dies. Only the switch section survives (and I also have a separate >switch by it). I am planning to have either the Tasmota thingy act by itself when the net goes down, or to have a raspberry pi be the access point for a dedicated Wifi. Greetings Marc -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 14:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <httbmlxq8t.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #70467 |
On 2025-08-06 13:52, Marc Haber wrote: > "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> On 2025-08-06 07:48, Marc Haber wrote: >>> Most tuya devices can be crosscraded to Tasmota. You can buy >>> single-socket thingies with Tasmota preinstalled from Amazon (look for >>> Gosund or Nous). Tasmota does Wifi¹, it has a web interface and speaks >>> MQTT. That's what you want in the 2020ies. >> >> Noted, thanks. >> >>> >>> Greetings >>> Marc >>> >>> ¹ WPA Personal only, IPv4 only, but that's expected on hardward THIS >>> tiny. Having Wifi ist just cheaper and easier electricitywise than >>> Ethernet >> >> For my use case, it has to be Ethernet. >> >> The task was to powercycle the router, when it hangs. When it hangs, >> WiFi dies. Only the switch section survives (and I also have a separate >> switch by it). > > I am planning to have either the Tasmota thingy act by itself when the > net goes down, or to have a raspberry pi be the access point for a > dedicated Wifi. Well, ok, if the thingy can have all the logic, then yes. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 16:07 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <106vnjl$1dqp2$1@news1.tnib.de> |
| In reply to | #70467 |
Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> wrote: >>The task was to powercycle the router, when it hangs. When it hangs, >>WiFi dies. Only the switch section survives (and I also have a separate >>switch by it). > >I am planning to have either the Tasmota thingy act by itself when the >net goes down, or to have a raspberry pi be the access point for a >dedicated Wifi. My current Gosund/Nous plugs don't have big enough flash to allow a Tasmota build that can even ping. So I'll have to do that externally. Greetings Marc -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402
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| From | Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-08-05 15:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <106t0eg$17an3$1@news1.tnib.de> |
| In reply to | #70373 |
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >And you realise a nuclear power station would have been cheaper and more >reliable., That is utter B.S. There is no more expensive way to generate electricity than nuclear fission. The only difference that it's your grand-grandchildren who pay the real price. Greetings Marc -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-05 14:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <106t25t$2pfug$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70381 |
On 05/08/2025 14:20, Marc Haber wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> And you realise a nuclear power station would have been cheaper and more >> reliable., > > That is utter B.S. There is no more expensive way to generate > electricity than nuclear fission. > No., that is BS. Current UK costs are Old nuclear £50/MWh Gas £60/MWh New Nuclear £60-£95/MWh Wind onshore £120-£140/MWh plus cost of grid extensions battery stabilisation , and gas backup Wind offshore £14-£22/MWh plus extras as above Solar £45/MWh plus extras as above. Only hydro is better. > The only difference that it's your grand-grandchildren who pay the > real price. > Oh dear. Another tree hugger scared of radiation. Go and look up how much radioactive material there is in the world naturally, and then compare that with the amount that nuclear power produces. In fact nuclear power *reduces* the total amount of radioactivity. Then look at the deaths per MWh of all the power generating technologies. Nuclear is the best. But I guess its Roger Scruton's point that you cannot reason a man out of a position he was not reasoned into in the first place. Irratonal fear of nuclear as promoted by the KGB for geopolitical purposes and by their agents - the moronic Greens - is a matter of faith, not fact. > Greetings > Marc -- “Progress is precisely that which rules and regulations did not foresee,” – Ludwig von Mises
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| From | Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-08-05 15:19 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <106t0d1$17ac1$1@news1.tnib.de> |
| In reply to | #70372 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >I had to buy a power socket strip remotely controlled by ethernet; on >the server I wrote an application that would ping the router constantly, >and when it went down it would power cycle it. > >Unfortunately, that power strip died soon. Will do the same with a raspberry Pi with a gosund tasmota plug. Otoh, tasmota can probably be scripted to do that automatically. Don't want it to be too automatic though, the switch needs 7 minutes to boot and I dont want it power cycled unless absolutely necessary. Greetings Marc -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402
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| From | Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-08-05 15:18 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <106t0ap$17abc$1@news1.tnib.de> |
| In reply to | #70369 |
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>The trend amongst the Great Unwashed Ignorati... (GUI...) is wifi
>everything.
>
>Even my 3D printer has no RJ45, and no way to set a fixed IP address on
>its Wifi, I had to use the router to give it a specific DHCP slot..
What for? We have mdns for that.
And yes, my Canon has both an RJ45 AND can do static, but I'm still
assigning it a reserved IP via DHCP. It's easier that way and
renumbers more nicely.
>Mostly they say 'just reboot it'. Only router I have met that actually
>*needs* a regular reboot.
I have a 28 port 10 GbE Switch from TP-Link that stops switching once
in a while until you do the IT crowd stuff ("Have you tried turning it
off and on again?"). Takes ~ 7 minutes to come back up, it's a pain.
Vendor insists on a user error, hasn't released a new firmware since
two months after I bought the box. Very badly spent upper three-digit
euro amount.
Greetings
Marc
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Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " |
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-05 14:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <106t1g4$2pfug$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70379 |
On 05/08/2025 14:18, Marc Haber wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> The trend amongst the Great Unwashed Ignorati... (GUI...) is wifi
>> everything.
>>
>> Even my 3D printer has no RJ45, and no way to set a fixed IP address on
>> its Wifi, I had to use the router to give it a specific DHCP slot..
>
> What for? We have mdns for that.
>
You may, my 3D printer does not
> And yes, my Canon has both an RJ45 AND can do static, but I'm still
> assigning it a reserved IP via DHCP. It's easier that way and
> renumbers more nicely.
>
Old habits from before DHCP die hard...my networks used to work without
DHCP and a router...
>> Mostly they say 'just reboot it'. Only router I have met that actually
>> *needs* a regular reboot.
>
> I have a 28 port 10 GbE Switch from TP-Link that stops switching once
> in a while until you do the IT crowd stuff ("Have you tried turning it
> off and on again?"). Takes ~ 7 minutes to come back up, it's a pain.
> Vendor insists on a user error, hasn't released a new firmware since
> two months after I bought the box. Very badly spent upper three-digit
> euro amount.
>
Nasty.
I have an old 24 port 100Mbps switch that cost me nothing. It never
misses a beat
I am in the process of replacing it with a 16 port gigabit...that came
as a bare board, from china...to be built into my NAS in a rackmount case
When I can actually get my RPI4B to be a NAS without randomly crashing....
> Greetings
> Marc
--
"Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and
higher education positively fortifies it."
- Stephen Vizinczey
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-08-05 21:27 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ri2amlxisb.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #70379 |
On 2025-08-05 15:18, Marc Haber wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> The trend amongst the Great Unwashed Ignorati... (GUI...) is wifi >> everything. >> >> Even my 3D printer has no RJ45, and no way to set a fixed IP address on >> its Wifi, I had to use the router to give it a specific DHCP slot.. > > What for? We have mdns for that. > > And yes, my Canon has both an RJ45 AND can do static, but I'm still > assigning it a reserved IP via DHCP. It's easier that way and > renumbers more nicely. My printer has outlived three routers. And ISP routers have a limited list for DHCP assignation, so I only use it if there is no other way. ... -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-05 20:44 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <106tmu4$2ugbe$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70398 |
On 05/08/2025 20:27, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-08-05 15:18, Marc Haber wrote: >> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> The trend amongst the Great Unwashed Ignorati... (GUI...) is wifi >>> everything. >>> >>> Even my 3D printer has no RJ45, and no way to set a fixed IP address on >>> its Wifi, I had to use the router to give it a specific DHCP slot.. >> >> What for? We have mdns for that. >> >> And yes, my Canon has both an RJ45 AND can do static, but I'm still >> assigning it a reserved IP via DHCP. It's easier that way and >> renumbers more nicely. > > My printer has outlived three routers. And ISP routers have a limited > list for DHCP assignation, so I only use it if there is no other way. > Do they? Pretty sure mine is unlimited except my memory > ... > -- Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice. – Will Durant
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 12:57 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d2pbmlx9de.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #70403 |
On 2025-08-05 21:44, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 05/08/2025 20:27, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-08-05 15:18, Marc Haber wrote: >>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> The trend amongst the Great Unwashed Ignorati... (GUI...) is wifi >>>> everything. >>>> >>>> Even my 3D printer has no RJ45, and no way to set a fixed IP address on >>>> its Wifi, I had to use the router to give it a specific DHCP slot.. >>> >>> What for? We have mdns for that. >>> >>> And yes, my Canon has both an RJ45 AND can do static, but I'm still >>> assigning it a reserved IP via DHCP. It's easier that way and >>> renumbers more nicely. >> >> My printer has outlived three routers. And ISP routers have a limited >> list for DHCP assignation, so I only use it if there is no other way. >> > Do they? > > Pretty sure mine is unlimited except my memory >> ... Yes. My current router allows only 32 entries. I have two currently, I had more in the previous router. It is a chore to find a backup of the table and manually enter it each time the ISP replaces the router. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 12:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <106vcor$3a9c8$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70465 |
On 06/08/2025 11:57, Carlos E.R. wrote: > Yes. My current router allows only 32 entries. I have two currently, I > had more in the previous router. It is a chore to find a backup of the > table and manually enter it each time the ISP replaces the router. > What an utterly crap ISP. Its like going back to the days of 'you may not have more than two machines on your network ' or 'if you exceed your monthly data allowance we will cut you off, and demand payment with menaces'. I left that ISP the very next day. Is that the *only* possible ISP for you? -- “But what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an hypothesis!” Mary Wollstonecraft
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-08-06 14:23 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <62ubmlxq8t.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #70466 |
On 2025-08-06 13:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 06/08/2025 11:57, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> Yes. My current router allows only 32 entries. I have two currently, I >> had more in the previous router. It is a chore to find a backup of the >> table and manually enter it each time the ISP replaces the router. >> > What an utterly crap ISP. > > Its like going back to the days of 'you may not have more than two > machines on your network ' or 'if you exceed your monthly data allowance > we will cut you off, and demand payment with menaces'. > > I left that ISP the very next day. > Is that the *only* possible ISP for you? Other ISP do the same thing. And in this ISP, all the routers I had for nearly two decades had a limited DHCP table. Even the routers I bought had a limit (possibly bigger, but still a limit). -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 13:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <106vi2h$3c9cr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70472 |
On 06/08/2025 13:23, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-08-06 13:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 06/08/2025 11:57, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> Yes. My current router allows only 32 entries. I have two currently, >>> I had more in the previous router. It is a chore to find a backup of >>> the table and manually enter it each time the ISP replaces the router. >>> >> What an utterly crap ISP. >> >> Its like going back to the days of 'you may not have more than two >> machines on your network ' or 'if you exceed your monthly data >> allowance we will cut you off, and demand payment with menaces'. >> >> I left that ISP the very next day. >> Is that the *only* possible ISP for you? > > Other ISP do the same thing. And in this ISP, all the routers I had for > nearly two decades had a limited DHCP table. Even the routers I bought > had a limit (possibly bigger, but still a limit). > Mmm. you are right. My router has a 253 DHCP limit, Well there are ways around THAT if it ever became a problem -- “It is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.” Thomas Sowell
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-08-06 15:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <106vqdg$3ecdm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70474 |
On 2025-08-06, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 06/08/2025 13:23, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-08-06 13:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 06/08/2025 11:57, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>>> Yes. My current router allows only 32 entries. I have two >>>> currently, I had more in the previous router. It is a chore to >>>> find a backup of the table and manually enter it each time the ISP >>>> replaces the router. >>>> >>> What an utterly crap ISP. >>> >>> Its like going back to the days of 'you may not have more than two >>> machines on your network ' or 'if you exceed your monthly data >>> allowance we will cut you off, and demand payment with menaces'. >>> >>> I left that ISP the very next day. >>> Is that the *only* possible ISP for you? >> >> Other ISP do the same thing. And in this ISP, all the routers I had >> for nearly two decades had a limited DHCP table. Even the routers I >> bought had a limit (possibly bigger, but still a limit). >> > Mmm. you are right. My router has a 253 DHCP limit, > Well there are ways around THAT if it ever became a problem Isn't that just the limit of the "private network" prefix chosen, i.e. I'm guessing it's because you're using 192.168.x.x/24 ? 0 thru 255, that's 256, minus gateway, minus broadcast, minus the router itself, that gives 253. So is it really limited at that in IPv4 or could you just go with 10.0.0.0/16 instead? -- Nuno Silva
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-06 16:23 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <106vs0t$3evgn$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70486 |
On 06/08/2025 15:55, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2025-08-06, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 06/08/2025 13:23, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-08-06 13:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 06/08/2025 11:57, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes. My current router allows only 32 entries. I have two >>>>> currently, I had more in the previous router. It is a chore to >>>>> find a backup of the table and manually enter it each time the ISP >>>>> replaces the router. >>>>> >>>> What an utterly crap ISP. >>>> >>>> Its like going back to the days of 'you may not have more than two >>>> machines on your network ' or 'if you exceed your monthly data >>>> allowance we will cut you off, and demand payment with menaces'. >>>> >>>> I left that ISP the very next day. >>>> Is that the *only* possible ISP for you? >>> >>> Other ISP do the same thing. And in this ISP, all the routers I had >>> for nearly two decades had a limited DHCP table. Even the routers I >>> bought had a limit (possibly bigger, but still a limit). >>> >> Mmm. you are right. My router has a 253 DHCP limit, >> Well there are ways around THAT if it ever became a problem > > Isn't that just the limit of the "private network" prefix chosen, > i.e. I'm guessing it's because you're using 192.168.x.x/24 ? > No. It appears to be a hard limit for that router. You can specify a 512 address wide network, but you cant populate it fully with DHCP But, of course, any linux box on the network can be a DHCP server... And if you install webmin, you can give it a web control interface too. > 0 thru 255, that's 256, minus gateway, minus broadcast, minus the router > itself, that gives 253. So is it really limited at that in IPv4 or could > you just go with 10.0.0.0/16 instead? > Its limited. That's on a Draytek soho router More corporate sized routers have bigger tables. -- “It is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.” Thomas Sowell
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| From | Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-08-06 07:49 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <106uqd1$1bj8q$1@news1.tnib.de> |
| In reply to | #70398 |
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >And ISP routers have a limited >list for DHCP assignation, They have? We have the 2020ies now and many people have their home full of IoT devices. Greetings Marc -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402
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