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Danger Will Robinson ! Aussies Invent Gigabit Quantum-Computing Method, ALL Encryption At Risk SOON

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#36682 — Danger Will Robinson ! Aussies Invent Gigabit Quantum-Computing Method, ALL Encryption At Risk SOON

From	"26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noaada.net>
Date	2023-01-14 00:28 -0500
Subject	Danger Will Robinson ! Aussies Invent Gigabit Quantum-Computing Method, ALL Encryption At Risk SOON
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https://phys.org/news/2023-01-method-billion-qubit-quantum-chips-closer.html

Australian engineers have discovered a new way of precisely
controlling single electrons nestled in quantum dots that
run logic gates. What's more, the new mechanism is less
bulky and requires fewer parts, which could prove essential
to making large-scale silicon quantum computers a reality.

The serendipitous discovery, made by engineers at the quantum
computing start-up Diraq and UNSW Sydney, is detailed in the
journal Nature Nanotechnology.

"This was a completely new effect we'd never seen before,
which we didn't quite understand at first," said lead author
Dr. Will Gilbert, a quantum processor engineer at Diraq, a
UNSW spin-off company based at its Sydney campus. "But it
quickly became clear that this was a powerful new way of
controlling spins in a quantum dot. And that was super exciting."

. . .

Wasn't long ago IBM was renting time on it's super-duper
EIGHT-qBit box - and interesting things were done with it.

Now it looks like a giga-qBits are within reach.

First up, all conventional coding schemes are TOAST.
The Russians and Chinese WILL get their hands on the
first pre-production samples to come off the line.
And in a few years the Chinese will be making 10 or
100 giga-qBit knock-offs, for their military AI ....

AND

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11628963/The-Quantum-Apocalypse-just-YEARS-away-experts-say.html

The Quantum Apocalypse — when encryption banking stops working and the
world's savings could evaporate — is 'just YEARS away', experts say

Experts warn a 'Quantum Apocalypse' could make everyone's data vulnerable

Quantum computers may become powerful enough to break all
encryptions

This will lead to exposure of sensitive information such as
banking details

. . . . . . . .

As soon as quantum-computing was realized, it was also
realized that conventional encryption methods would be
very vulnerable to this computational approach. This
was back when qPCs were just a FEW q-bits. Now the
Aussies seem to have found an approach to millions,
billions, of qbit processing. The Evil People WILL
snatch pre-production versions ... the Chinese will
just steal the technique and start making/improving
their own.

Long back it was suggested that there could be
encryption methods resistant to qPCs, capitalizing
on what they're NOT good at.

Whether anybody ever PERFECTED such methods - and
could make them run on conventional processors -
is unclear.

If said methods do NOT exist then all encryption-based
safety DISAPPEARS - and I'd agree that we're talking just
a few years.

Also, deep-fake video can now be complimented with
deep-fake audio via Microsoft's VALL-E audio-mimicry
app.

https://techxplore.com/news/2023-01-microsoft-vall-e-faithfully-voice.html

A team of researchers at Microsoft has demonstrated a new AI
system that is capable of mimicking a person's voice after
training with a recording just three seconds long. The team
explains developing the new app in a paper published on the
arXiv preprint server. They have also posted a webpage
demonstrating the app's capabilities.

We have a problem.

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#36686

From	Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid>
Date	2023-01-14 17:18 +1000
Message-ID	<63c25749@news.ausics.net>
In reply to	#36682

26C.Z968 <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote:
> 
> https://phys.org/news/2023-01-method-billion-qubit-quantum-chips-closer.html
> 
> Australian engineers have discovered a new way of precisely
> controlling single electrons nestled in quantum dots that
> run logic gates. What's more, the new mechanism is less
> bulky and requires fewer parts, which could prove essential
> to making large-scale silicon quantum computers a reality.
> [snip]
>   First up, all conventional coding schemes are TOAST.

I don't believe quantum computers are intended to replace
conventional computers entirely, they're just much faster at
some specific tasks, so no.

>   The Russians and Chinese WILL get their hands on the
>   first pre-production samples to come off the line.
>   And in a few years the Chinese will be making 10 or
>   100 giga-qBit knock-offs, for their military AI ....

It sounds like that's still some time away. As it's an Australian
invention, odds are that the Chinese will indeed end up building
the end product instead of us Aussies though (grumble).

>   As soon as quantum-computing was realized, it was also
>   realized that conventional encryption methods would be
>   very vulnerable to this computational approach. This
>   was back when qPCs were just a FEW q-bits. Now the
>   Aussies seem to have found an approach to millions,
>   billions, of qbit processing. The Evil People WILL
>   snatch pre-production versions ... the Chinese will
>   just steal the technique and start making/improving
>   their own.

I bet the NSA will be the first in any case. For that matter maybe
their own IARPA scientists already figured this out years ago and
their research was just kept secret.

"IARPA is a major funder of quantum computing research due to its
 applications in quantum cryptography. As of 2009, IARPA was said
 to provide a large portion of quantum computing funding resources
 in the United States."
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IARPA#Research_fields

>   Long back it was suggested that there could be
>   encryption methods resistant to qPCs, capitalizing
>   on what they're NOT good at.
> 
>   Whether anybody ever PERFECTED such methods - and
>   could make them run on conventional processors -
>   is unclear.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-quantum_cryptography

At worst it might need an extra chip for increased speed.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/risc-v-chip-delivers-quantum-resistant-encryption

>   Also, deep-fake video can now be complimented with
>   deep-fake audio via Microsoft's VALL-E audio-mimicry
>   app.
> 
> https://techxplore.com/news/2023-01-microsoft-vall-e-faithfully-voice.html
> 
> A team of researchers at Microsoft has demonstrated a new AI
> system that is capable of mimicking a person's voice after
> training with a recording just three seconds long. The team
> explains developing the new app in a paper published on the
> arXiv preprint server. They have also posted a webpage
> demonstrating the app's capabilities.

You can't trust audio recordings of people anyway, just due to
editing.

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From	Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date	2023-01-14 11:32 +0000
Message-ID	<wwvilh9e4h2.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to	#36682

From	not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date	2023-01-17 07:45 +1000
Message-ID	<63c5c565@news.ausics.net>
In reply to	#36701

From	The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date	2023-01-17 06:51 +0000
Message-ID	<tq5gi3$345mt$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#36712

From	Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date	2023-01-17 19:06 +0000
Message-ID	<flCxL.276573$Tcw8.52705@fx10.iad>
In reply to	#36719

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