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| Started by | "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> |
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| First post | 2025-01-14 23:37 -0500 |
| Last post | 2025-01-17 10:48 +0100 |
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News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-14 23:37 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-15 10:10 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-15 23:29 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmpereComputing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-16 05:03 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 11:58 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-16 11:18 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-16 17:12 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-01-17 07:35 +1000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-16 23:58 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-01-17 12:20 +1000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 00:46 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 07:05 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 03:20 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 08:17 -0800
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:32 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 19:37 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:39 +0100
Raspberry NAS, anyone? Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-18 14:57 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-18 20:05 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 11:47 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-19 13:14 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 23:02 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-20 09:07 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-19 18:33 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-20 10:30 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-20 10:10 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-20 13:51 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-20 21:58 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-20 20:04 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-21 10:13 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-21 18:55 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-22 10:28 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-22 18:50 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-01-23 06:47 +1000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-22 22:34 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 00:00 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 16:42 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 16:13 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 21:59 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-24 01:57 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-24 00:52 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-24 19:13 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 01:24 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 02:02 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 19:35 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 11:21 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-24 20:27 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 01:26 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-01-25 17:14 +1000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 11:24 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 11:16 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-24 19:16 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 00:58 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:04 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-22 22:29 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-22 23:58 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 16:40 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-23 00:37 +0000
Maker spaces Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-23 02:17 +0000
Re: Maker spaces rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-23 04:50 +0000
Re: Maker spaces Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-23 13:38 +0000
Re: Maker spaces Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 01:48 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 16:46 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 16:32 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-01-24 06:22 +1000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 09:44 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-01-25 17:36 +1000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 11:39 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 19:41 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-22 21:38 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-23 04:56 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-22 20:34 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-23 05:07 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-23 03:10 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 09:15 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-23 08:58 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 15:08 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-23 17:58 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-23 13:44 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-23 09:05 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 15:06 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-23 10:15 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 15:57 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-23 17:55 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 22:07 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 16:53 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-21 19:30 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-22 07:50 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-22 10:35 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-21 09:43 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-20 21:53 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-20 19:42 -0500
Synology Diskstation architecture (was: Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-21 02:48 +0000
Re: Synology Diskstation architecture (was: Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-20 23:29 -0500
Re: Synology Diskstation architecture (was: Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-22 20:56 +0000
Re: Synology Diskstation architecture (was: Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-22 18:47 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-21 10:12 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-21 19:56 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-21 19:17 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-22 10:32 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-22 21:29 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 16:51 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-23 19:18 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-24 10:27 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 11:46 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-24 19:21 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-24 18:57 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-24 23:16 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 01:39 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:07 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-24 19:24 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-24 23:19 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 00:55 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 02:27 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:34 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 11:36 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 18:34 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 17:54 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:33 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 00:14 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 21:24 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 09:49 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 15:30 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 20:25 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:03 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-27 19:01 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 22:25 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 22:38 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 10:44 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 11:43 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 18:35 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 18:03 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:35 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 19:29 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:38 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 00:00 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 22:01 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:39 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 20:01 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 09:57 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 11:37 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 20:40 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:07 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-27 09:44 +0000
Political evolution (Libertarianism) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-26 00:36 +0000
Re: Political evolution (Libertarianism) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-01-26 05:31 +0200
Re: Political evolution (Libertarianism) "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 22:36 -0500
Re: Political evolution (Libertarianism) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 19:25 +0000
Re: Political evolution (Libertarianism) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 11:44 +0100
Re: Political evolution (Libertarianism) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 19:33 +0000
Re: Political evolution (Libertarianism) D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 09:55 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 21:32 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 03:33 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-26 03:49 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 21:13 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-26 18:30 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-27 00:42 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186283@ud0s4.net" <186284@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-27 00:03 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-27 05:53 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-27 01:22 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-27 18:54 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-27 22:20 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-28 05:36 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-28 02:24 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-28 20:01 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-28 21:23 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-28 23:11 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-29 03:45 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-29 04:23 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-29 06:02 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-28 20:28 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 21:42 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-01-29 07:22 +1000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-29 15:14 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-28 23:58 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-29 15:19 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-28 16:20 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-29 15:12 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-30 01:15 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-30 05:43 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-30 01:01 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 10:37 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-30 10:01 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 18:41 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-30 05:08 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 18:43 +0100
Turn your Radio On Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-30 14:05 +0000
Re: Turn your Radio On D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 18:49 +0100
Re: Turn your Radio On rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-30 19:35 +0000
Re: Turn your Radio On D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 22:15 +0100
Re: Turn your Radio On rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 01:18 +0000
Re: Turn your Radio On D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 13:47 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-30 17:24 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-30 19:43 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 22:16 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-30 22:07 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 13:41 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 01:43 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-30 21:24 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 06:26 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 13:49 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 19:36 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 23:37 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-01 05:16 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-01 11:37 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 13:49 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 13:48 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-30 10:33 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-30 09:33 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-30 17:31 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-30 19:45 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-30 20:13 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-30 20:39 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-30 21:25 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-30 21:19 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-30 22:54 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-30 20:43 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 06:22 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-01-31 08:08 +1000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 01:35 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-01-31 04:49 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-31 00:44 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 06:49 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-31 02:09 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-31 10:33 +0000
Turn Your Radio On ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-01-31 16:48 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 23:03 +0100
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-31 20:08 -0500
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-01 04:36 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-02-01 05:05 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-01 01:52 -0500
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-02-01 17:40 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-01 08:14 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-02-01 19:47 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-01 19:57 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-01 20:13 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-02 00:24 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-02 06:10 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-02 20:41 -0500
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-02 10:20 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-02 20:27 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-02 21:00 -0500
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-01 17:08 -0500
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-02 10:18 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-02 20:54 -0500
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-01 19:49 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-01 01:22 -0500
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-01 11:28 +0100
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-01 18:42 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 11:39 +0100
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-02 10:43 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 21:56 +0100
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-03 03:25 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-03 22:55 +0100
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-02-04 00:36 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-03 22:52 -0500
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-04 17:35 +0100
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-04 17:28 +0100
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-02 20:31 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 21:59 +0100
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-02-02 01:11 -0500
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-02 11:49 +0100
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-01 04:28 +0000
Re: Turn Your Radio On ... D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-01 11:32 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 19:30 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 23:36 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-01 04:45 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-01 11:34 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-01 18:47 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-31 22:54 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-01 04:57 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-02-01 11:35 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-01 11:27 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-31 10:29 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-02-01 04:11 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-01 05:00 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-02-02 04:13 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 06:44 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-31 18:21 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-31 19:47 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-31 10:24 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-02-01 04:34 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:09 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-27 09:46 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 17:45 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-27 21:55 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 10:27 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-27 09:26 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-27 09:00 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:01 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 02:10 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:29 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 11:22 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 18:30 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 19:22 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:37 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 21:29 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:00 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 09:25 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:45 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 12:52 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 17:30 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 20:27 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:05 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-27 09:41 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 17:44 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-27 20:15 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 22:26 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-24 21:40 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 01:28 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 03:49 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 02:16 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 19:24 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 10:46 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-25 19:44 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:40 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 00:09 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 22:21 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 09:39 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:48 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 13:12 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 17:32 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 20:12 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:01 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-27 20:30 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 22:28 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-27 19:45 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-28 05:38 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-28 03:13 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 10:25 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-28 20:01 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-28 21:41 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "WokieSux282@ud0s4.net" <WokieSux283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-27 22:00 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 20:09 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-27 10:00 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:41 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 11:38 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 00:53 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 11:04 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-25 11:19 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 18:29 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 00:12 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 10:51 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-01-25 20:01 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-25 23:41 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 21:53 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:38 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-26 00:12 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-25 22:22 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-26 13:42 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 09:40 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-22 07:48 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-22 10:34 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-22 20:11 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-22 22:31 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-22 22:55 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 00:05 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-22 21:34 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 16:53 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-23 16:34 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-23 22:02 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-01-22 20:08 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-22 23:55 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-21 18:22 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:20 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 10:33 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 16:46 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-01-18 07:45 +1000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-18 11:45 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-18 19:26 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 11:42 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-19 19:03 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-19 23:08 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-19 18:52 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-20 09:08 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmpereComputing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-20 23:29 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmpereComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-20 20:26 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-20 10:36 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-19 18:44 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 08:14 -0800
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-20 16:39 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 09:00 -0800
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-20 13:56 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-20 21:57 +0100
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-17 10:19 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 08:04 -0800
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmpereComputing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:12 +0000
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-17 00:28 -0500
Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-01-17 10:48 +0100
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-23 15:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vmtlt5$1ll9u$13@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #64687 |
On 23/01/2025 13:44, Rich wrote: > 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote: >> On 1/23/25 12:07 AM, rbowman wrote: >>> On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:34:20 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>> https://www.lowes.com/pd/M-D-24-in-x-3-ft-Aluminum-Sheet-Metal/ >>> 1000243353 >>>>> >>>>> Strange, I get access denied. >>>> >>>> >>>> Accessing from inside the USA ? >>> >>> You don't have permission to access "http://www.lowes.com/pd/M-D-24-in- >>> x-3-ft-Aluminum-Sheet-Metal/1000243353" on this server. >>> >>> I'm in Austria at the moment :) Or maybe Netherlands. A search for >>> Canakit on amazon.com has "We're showing you items that ship to >>> Netherlands. To see items that ship to a different country, change your >>> delivery address. " >>> >>> If I go to amazon.de I get >>> >>> "Wir zeigen dir Artikel, die nach Rumänien geliefert werden. Um Artikel >>> anzuzeigen, die in ein anderes Land geliefert werden, ändere bitte deine >>> Versandadresse. " >> >> >> You'd think they'd be more eager to SELL stuff ... >> >> Anyway, kinda search on the description. You should >> find photos and maybe a more local source. >> >> These are often used on screen doors, the bottom >> half, to keep people from putting their knee >> through the screen. As said, can be very handy >> for building odd things. > > Lowes is a US company. So I could see them deciding to avoid all the > GDPR issues with cookies and consent by attempting to geoblock EU IP > addresses. > I got a 'page not found' error from the UK -- "The great thing about Glasgow is that if there's a nuclear attack it'll look exactly the same afterwards." Billy Connolly
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| From | "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-23 10:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <tEKdnb3pmaGwwA_6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
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On 1/23/25 10:06 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 23/01/2025 13:44, Rich wrote: >> 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote: >>> On 1/23/25 12:07 AM, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:34:20 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> https://www.lowes.com/pd/M-D-24-in-x-3-ft-Aluminum-Sheet-Metal/ >>>> 1000243353 >>>>>> >>>>>> Strange, I get access denied. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Accessing from inside the USA ? >>>> >>>> You don't have permission to access "http://www.lowes.com/pd/M-D-24-in- >>>> x-3-ft-Aluminum-Sheet-Metal/1000243353" on this server. >>>> >>>> I'm in Austria at the moment :) Or maybe Netherlands. A search for >>>> Canakit on amazon.com has "We're showing you items that ship to >>>> Netherlands. To see items that ship to a different country, change your >>>> delivery address. " >>>> >>>> If I go to amazon.de I get >>>> >>>> "Wir zeigen dir Artikel, die nach Rumänien geliefert werden. Um Artikel >>>> anzuzeigen, die in ein anderes Land geliefert werden, ändere bitte >>>> deine >>>> Versandadresse. " >>> >>> >>> You'd think they'd be more eager to SELL stuff ... >>> >>> Anyway, kinda search on the description. You should >>> find photos and maybe a more local source. >>> >>> These are often used on screen doors, the bottom >>> half, to keep people from putting their knee >>> through the screen. As said, can be very handy >>> for building odd things. >> >> Lowes is a US company. So I could see them deciding to avoid all the >> GDPR issues with cookies and consent by attempting to geoblock EU IP >> addresses. >> > I got a 'page not found' error from the UK Can't help you. Search Amazon for "perforated aluminum sheet" - good luck.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-23 15:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vmtotg$1ll9u$19@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #64692 |
On 23/01/2025 15:15, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 1/23/25 10:06 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 23/01/2025 13:44, Rich wrote: >>> 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote: >>>> On 1/23/25 12:07 AM, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:34:20 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.lowes.com/pd/M-D-24-in-x-3-ft-Aluminum-Sheet-Metal/ >>>>> 1000243353 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Strange, I get access denied. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Accessing from inside the USA ? >>>>> >>>>> You don't have permission to access >>>>> "http://www.lowes.com/pd/M-D-24-in- >>>>> x-3-ft-Aluminum-Sheet-Metal/1000243353" on this server. >>>>> >>>>> I'm in Austria at the moment :) Or maybe Netherlands. A search for >>>>> Canakit on amazon.com has "We're showing you items that ship to >>>>> Netherlands. To see items that ship to a different country, change >>>>> your >>>>> delivery address. " >>>>> >>>>> If I go to amazon.de I get >>>>> >>>>> "Wir zeigen dir Artikel, die nach Rumänien geliefert werden. Um >>>>> Artikel >>>>> anzuzeigen, die in ein anderes Land geliefert werden, ändere bitte >>>>> deine >>>>> Versandadresse. " >>>> >>>> >>>> You'd think they'd be more eager to SELL stuff ... >>>> >>>> Anyway, kinda search on the description. You should >>>> find photos and maybe a more local source. >>>> >>>> These are often used on screen doors, the bottom >>>> half, to keep people from putting their knee >>>> through the screen. As said, can be very handy >>>> for building odd things. >>> >>> Lowes is a US company. So I could see them deciding to avoid all the >>> GDPR issues with cookies and consent by attempting to geoblock EU IP >>> addresses. >>> >> I got a 'page not found' error from the UK > > Can't help you. > > Search Amazon for "perforated aluminum sheet" - good luck. > Oh indeed. I wasn't looking for any., Ive got loads of meal stock in my model aeroplane hangar. I was just commenting on the availability of Lowes USA from the UK Here Screwfix stock the perf sheet. At least - and there are dozens of suppliers -- “when things get difficult you just have to lie” ― Jean Claud Jüncker
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-23 17:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lvfe54FsbtnU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #64684 |
On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 03:10:08 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > You'd think they'd be more eager to SELL stuff ... > > Anyway, kinda search on the description. You should find photos and > maybe a more local source. The whole exercise was using Tor to attempt to access Lowe's web page. Apparently the reject requests coming from European IPs. The rest was playing around with Tor to see how Amazon responds.
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-23 22:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <487662bb-7b4b-2300-0cff-abf3a788f1d3@example.net> |
| In reply to | #64705 |
On Thu, 23 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 03:10:08 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > >> You'd think they'd be more eager to SELL stuff ... >> >> Anyway, kinda search on the description. You should find photos and >> maybe a more local source. > > The whole exercise was using Tor to attempt to access Lowe's web page. > Apparently the reject requests coming from European IPs. The rest was > playing around with Tor to see how Amazon responds. > GDPR for sure. But Trump will surely fix GDPR. I think he is getting pissed at europe using GDPR as a money printer to extract money from US IT companies. I'm sure he will retaliate with a tax on US digital services sold to europe or a tariff or some other way to claw back what europe takes from the US IT companies. ;)
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-23 16:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <3ef6cfe5-2d37-807e-4c26-922023ff4a8b@example.net> |
| In reply to | #64682 |
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On Thu, 23 Jan 2025, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 20:34:20 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > > >>>> https://www.lowes.com/pd/M-D-24-in-x-3-ft-Aluminum-Sheet-Metal/ > 1000243353 >>> >>> Strange, I get access denied. >> >> >> Accessing from inside the USA ? > > You don't have permission to access "http://www.lowes.com/pd/M-D-24-in- > x-3-ft-Aluminum-Sheet-Metal/1000243353" on this server. > > I'm in Austria at the moment :) Or maybe Netherlands. A search for > Canakit on amazon.com has "We're showing you items that ship to > Netherlands. To see items that ship to a different country, change your > delivery address. " > > If I go to amazon.de I get > > "Wir zeigen dir Artikel, die nach Rumänien geliefert werden. Um Artikel > anzuzeigen, die in ein anderes Land geliefert werden, ändere bitte deine > Versandadresse. " Ahh, makes sense.
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| From | "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-21 19:30 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <t6ucnUI9ZriGoQ36nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #64645 |
On 1/21/25 4:13 AM, D wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > >> On 1/20/25 3:58 PM, D wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>> >>>> On 1/20/25 5:10 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> On 20/01/2025 09:30, D wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Pi hat or OMV ? >>>>>> >>>>>> The pi, with directly connected spinning disks. Does the hat have its own extra power supply? >>>>> >>>>> I've managed to get a P4 I think to run one spinning rust disk without extra power. >>>>> Strictly it depends on the disk. >>>>> The pi hat for 5 drives has an external 60W PSU >>>> >>>> Used to run an external USB magnetic from >>>> a Pi4 ... worked just fine. TWO of them, >>>> well, not so sure. >>>> >>>> The 5-drive hat ... Philosopher says it needs >>>> at least a 12v/5a supply, esp if you're gonna >>>> run all magnetics. I have a couple of those >>>> around, may have to splice on the right plug ... >>> >>> This is promising! >> >> Gotta whip together SOME kind of holding frame. >> The Pi, hat and drives just kinda stick up there >> by gravity as-is. May still have some sheets >> of ABS plastic ... a little epoxy ..... >> > > Go to your friendly neighbourhood 3d printer! =) Wouldn't that work? Umm ... that'd be a lot more expensive than just cutting/gluing some raw plastic sheets :-) There exists some thin 'expanded aluminum' sheets that are normally used on the bottom half of screen doors - silver or pretty gold. They are easy to cut and bend tight. Look around in a Lowes store. I've used that for make-do enclosures before. https://www.lowes.com/pd/M-D-24-in-x-3-ft-Aluminum-Sheet-Metal/1000243353 If you have one of these : https://www.northerntool.com/products/ironton-portable-sheet-metal-bending-brake-30in-wide-101452 then you're way ahead of the game. I think of a Pi as "economy" and thus keep the apps/add-ons kinda cheap. Otherwise I'd use some kind of desktop. Alas those cheap BeeLink/BMax units only have one SATA port so you can add an SSD drive in the bottom of the box. I think Orinco sells a "SATA hub" ... kinda like a USB hub ... that can turn one into many. Dunno if it only works with Winders drivers however .......
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-22 07:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vmq7vm$rr50$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #64651 |
On 22/01/2025 00:30, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > Go to your friendly neighbourhood 3d printer! =) Wouldn't that work? > > > Umm ... that'd be a lot more expensive than just > cutting/gluing some raw plastic sheets 🙂 Depends if you already have the printer or not. -- Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-22 10:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <237ef23c-09ce-e0c8-c819-04433949b638@example.net> |
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On Wed, 22 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 22/01/2025 00:30, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> Go to your friendly neighbourhood 3d printer! =) Wouldn't that work? >> >> >> Umm ... that'd be a lot more expensive than just >> cutting/gluing some raw plastic sheets 🙂 > Depends if you already have the printer or not. I once 3d printed cases for raspberry pi:s with the SUSE Linux logo on them, and had those as a prize at a company event. They were very popular and I got asked several times at other events if I had more, which I had not. But it was great, just gave the 3d print shop the drawings, and out came the pi boxes with the chameleon on it.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-21 09:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vmnq75$3vgh5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #64637 |
On 20/01/2025 20:58, D wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > >> On 1/20/25 5:10 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 20/01/2025 09:30, D wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The Pi hat or OMV ? >>>> >>>> The pi, with directly connected spinning disks. Does the hat have >>>> its own extra power supply? >>> >>> I've managed to get a P4 I think to run one spinning rust disk >>> without extra power. >>> Strictly it depends on the disk. >>> The pi hat for 5 drives has an external 60W PSU >> >> Used to run an external USB magnetic from >> a Pi4 ... worked just fine. TWO of them, >> well, not so sure. >> >> The 5-drive hat ... Philosopher says it needs >> at least a 12v/5a supply, esp if you're gonna >> run all magnetics. I have a couple of those >> around, may have to splice on the right plug ... > > This is promising! That is what the blurb says it comes with/needs -- In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone gets full Marx.
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-20 21:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <69ce04cf-80a7-7170-675f-4165ffedc92b@example.net> |
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 20/01/2025 09:30, D wrote: >>> >>> The Pi hat or OMV ? >> >> The pi, with directly connected spinning disks. Does the hat have its own >> extra power supply? > > I've managed to get a P4 I think to run one spinning rust disk without extra > power. > Strictly it depends on the disk. > The pi hat for 5 drives has an external 60W PSU Ahh, if it has an external PSU then there is no problem. Ideally, if the pi hat for 5 drives is intended to accomodate 5 spinning drives, it would be nice if it did so at full speeds. Given that the server manufacturers seem to no longer want to produce smaller, cheaper nodes, but only want to sell huge GPU machines, I'm contemplating if it actually might not be possible to build a nice archive solution on pi:s, spinning disks and a few cards at a good price. To be continued... as the saying goes.
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| From | "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-20 19:42 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <RtudnVi93qkPcBP6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #64635 |
On 1/20/25 3:53 PM, D wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 20/01/2025 09:30, D wrote: >>>> >>>> The Pi hat or OMV ? >>> >>> The pi, with directly connected spinning disks. Does the hat have its >>> own extra power supply? >> >> I've managed to get a P4 I think to run one spinning rust disk without >> extra power. >> Strictly it depends on the disk. >> The pi hat for 5 drives has an external 60W PSU > > Ahh, if it has an external PSU then there is no problem. Ideally, if the > pi hat for 5 drives is intended to accomodate 5 spinning drives, it > would be nice if it did so at full speeds. One review said the WRITEs were a little pokey, but not TOO bad. READs were apparently snappy. This is OK ... most stuff on HDDs is "write once / read more often". > Given that the server manufacturers seem to no longer want to produce > smaller, cheaper nodes, but only want to sell huge GPU machines, I'm > contemplating if it actually might not be possible to build a nice > archive solution on pi:s, spinning disks and a few cards at a good price. > > To be continued... as the saying goes. Yep ... lemme get in and fool with my 5-drive unit a bit and I'll write a hands-on report. The price is good enough (the DRIVES are $$$ alas) Even without the SATA hat ... you CAN run a number of external USB 3.x drives from a Pi. Won't be as quick, but it works OK. And yea, I know what you mean about everybody trending towards "overkill" boxes/systems. Better $ margin I guess. Still no shortage of motherboards - so you can build your own "appropriate" boxes. For an NAS, it's the drive speeds that are kinda the limiting factor, so even a 'slow' motherboard won't hurt anything. It's all I/O-bound. The popular Sinology canned NAS units - 4/6/8/12 drive units with multiple network plugs - all use basically laptop-grade 'Celeron' grade processors.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-01-21 02:48 +0000 |
| Subject | Synology Diskstation architecture (was: Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing) |
| Message-ID | <lv8g84Fm488U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #64639 |
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 19:42:59 -0500, "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote in <RtudnVi93qkPcBP6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com>: > On 1/20/25 3:53 PM, D wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 20/01/2025 09:30, D wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The Pi hat or OMV ? >>>> >>>> The pi, with directly connected spinning disks. Does the hat have its >>>> own extra power supply? >>> >>> I've managed to get a P4 I think to run one spinning rust disk without >>> extra power. >>> Strictly it depends on the disk. >>> The pi hat for 5 drives has an external 60W PSU >> >> Ahh, if it has an external PSU then there is no problem. Ideally, if >> the pi hat for 5 drives is intended to accomodate 5 spinning drives, it >> would be nice if it did so at full speeds. > > > One review said the WRITEs were a little pokey, > but not TOO bad. READs were apparently snappy. > > This is OK ... most stuff on HDDs is "write once / > read more often". > > >> Given that the server manufacturers seem to no longer want to produce >> smaller, cheaper nodes, but only want to sell huge GPU machines, I'm >> contemplating if it actually might not be possible to build a nice >> archive solution on pi:s, spinning disks and a few cards at a good >> price. >> >> To be continued... as the saying goes. > > Yep ... lemme get in and fool with my 5-drive unit a bit and I'll > write a hands-on report. The price is good enough (the DRIVES are $$$ > alas) > > Even without the SATA hat ... you CAN run a number of external USB > 3.x drives from a Pi. Won't be as quick, but it works OK. > > And yea, I know what you mean about everybody trending towards > "overkill" boxes/systems. Better $ margin I guess. > Still no shortage of motherboards - so you can build your own > "appropriate" boxes. > > For an NAS, it's the drive speeds that are kinda the limiting factor, > so even a 'slow' motherboard won't hurt anything. It's all I/O-bound. > > The popular Sinology canned NAS units - 4/6/8/12 drive units with > multiple network plugs - all use basically laptop-grade 'Celeron' > grade processors. Beg to differ...this is on my Synology Diskstation: root@DT:~# uname -a Linux DT 3.10.108 #42962 SMP Mon Aug 19 15:14:28 CST 2024 armv7l GNU/Linux synology_alpine_ds2015xs root@DT:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) Speed : 1.7GHz Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt CPU implementer : 0x41 CPU architecture: 7 CPU variant : 0x2 CPU part : 0xc0f CPU revision : 4 processor : 1 model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) Speed : 1.7GHz Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt CPU implementer : 0x41 CPU architecture: 7 CPU variant : 0x2 CPU part : 0xc0f CPU revision : 4 processor : 2 model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) Speed : 1.7GHz Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt CPU implementer : 0x41 CPU architecture: 7 CPU variant : 0x2 CPU part : 0xc0f CPU revision : 4 processor : 3 model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) Speed : 1.7GHz Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt CPU implementer : 0x41 CPU architecture: 7 CPU variant : 0x2 CPU part : 0xc0f CPU revision : 4 Hardware : AnnapurnaLabs Alpine (Device Tree) Revision : 0000 Serial : 0000000000000000 -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.13.0 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G "Laughing stock: cattle with a sense of humour."
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| From | "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-20 23:29 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Synology Diskstation architecture (was: Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing) |
| Message-ID | <naWcnZgz34APvxL6nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #64642 |
On 1/20/25 9:48 PM, vallor wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 19:42:59 -0500, "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> > wrote in <RtudnVi93qkPcBP6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com>: > >> On 1/20/25 3:53 PM, D wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 20/01/2025 09:30, D wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The Pi hat or OMV ? >>>>> >>>>> The pi, with directly connected spinning disks. Does the hat have its >>>>> own extra power supply? >>>> >>>> I've managed to get a P4 I think to run one spinning rust disk without >>>> extra power. >>>> Strictly it depends on the disk. >>>> The pi hat for 5 drives has an external 60W PSU >>> >>> Ahh, if it has an external PSU then there is no problem. Ideally, if >>> the pi hat for 5 drives is intended to accomodate 5 spinning drives, it >>> would be nice if it did so at full speeds. >> >> >> One review said the WRITEs were a little pokey, >> but not TOO bad. READs were apparently snappy. >> >> This is OK ... most stuff on HDDs is "write once / >> read more often". >> >> >>> Given that the server manufacturers seem to no longer want to produce >>> smaller, cheaper nodes, but only want to sell huge GPU machines, I'm >>> contemplating if it actually might not be possible to build a nice >>> archive solution on pi:s, spinning disks and a few cards at a good >>> price. >>> >>> To be continued... as the saying goes. >> >> Yep ... lemme get in and fool with my 5-drive unit a bit and I'll >> write a hands-on report. The price is good enough (the DRIVES are $$$ >> alas) >> >> Even without the SATA hat ... you CAN run a number of external USB >> 3.x drives from a Pi. Won't be as quick, but it works OK. >> >> And yea, I know what you mean about everybody trending towards >> "overkill" boxes/systems. Better $ margin I guess. >> Still no shortage of motherboards - so you can build your own >> "appropriate" boxes. >> >> For an NAS, it's the drive speeds that are kinda the limiting factor, >> so even a 'slow' motherboard won't hurt anything. It's all I/O-bound. >> >> The popular Sinology canned NAS units - 4/6/8/12 drive units with >> multiple network plugs - all use basically laptop-grade 'Celeron' >> grade processors. > > Beg to differ...this is on my Synology Diskstation: > > root@DT:~# uname -a > Linux DT 3.10.108 #42962 SMP Mon Aug 19 15:14:28 CST 2024 armv7l > GNU/Linux synology_alpine_ds2015xs > > root@DT:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo > processor : 0 > model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) > Speed : 1.7GHz > Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 > idiva idivt > CPU implementer : 0x41 > CPU architecture: 7 > CPU variant : 0x2 > CPU part : 0xc0f > CPU revision : 4 > > processor : 1 > model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) > Speed : 1.7GHz > Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 > idiva idivt > CPU implementer : 0x41 > CPU architecture: 7 > CPU variant : 0x2 > CPU part : 0xc0f > CPU revision : 4 > > processor : 2 > model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) > Speed : 1.7GHz > Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 > idiva idivt > CPU implementer : 0x41 > CPU architecture: 7 > CPU variant : 0x2 > CPU part : 0xc0f > CPU revision : 4 > > processor : 3 > model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 4 (v7l) > Speed : 1.7GHz > Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 > idiva idivt > CPU implementer : 0x41 > CPU architecture: 7 > CPU variant : 0x2 > CPU part : 0xc0f > CPU revision : 4 > > Hardware : AnnapurnaLabs Alpine (Device Tree) > Revision : 0000 > Serial : 0000000000000000 > Last one I bought was basically a Celeron. Worked fine for a medium-sized office. The ARM-v7 series are 32-bitters, probably a rough equiv of yer basic Celeron in performance. In short you don't need an i9 for an NAS. The I/O waits suck up everything. Much of anything above yer Celeron or A7 is a waste of CPU.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-01-22 20:56 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Synology Diskstation architecture (was: Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing) |
| Message-ID | <lvd4bvFed7nU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #64643 |
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 23:29:02 -0500, "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote in <naWcnZgz34APvxL6nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com>: > Last one I bought was basically a Celeron. Worked fine for a > medium-sized office. > > The ARM-v7 series are 32-bitters, probably a rough equiv of yer basic > Celeron in performance. > > In short you don't need an i9 for an NAS. The I/O waits suck up > everything. Much of anything above yer Celeron or A7 is a waste of > CPU. I agree for now, but that's going to change once people attach faster and faster lans to NAS' -- and they start working with drives faster than SATA III. -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.13.0 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G "Catalan: Local area network for Cats."
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| From | "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-22 18:47 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Synology Diskstation architecture (was: Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing) |
| Message-ID | <45CdnQzwYvcIHgz6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #64642 |
On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 23:29:02 -0500, "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
wrote in <naWcnZgz34APvxL6nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com>:
> Last one I bought was basically a Celeron. Worked fine for a
> medium-sized office.
>
> The ARM-v7 series are 32-bitters, probably a rough equiv of yer basic
> Celeron in performance.
>
> In short you don't need an i9 for an NAS. The I/O waits suck up
> everything. Much of anything above yer Celeron or A7 is a waste of
> CPU.
I agree for now, but that's going to change once people attach faster
and faster lans to NAS' -- and they start working with drives
faster than SATA III.
. . .
I've only seen ONE place set up for a 10gb LAN.
Perhaps the newest construction ? 10gb-capable
switches aren't nearly as many - 1gb stuff is
plenty and cheap and normally "fast enough".
Lots of places wired up with cat 5e/6 long
long back and are not gonna re-wire anytime
soon.
I don't really see a SATA-IV ... 'drives' will
mostly become M.2 cards or equivs, at least
for 'home users'.
Now for an NAS - and we assume you want a lot
more performance than 'cloud' storage - it is
still a bit difficult to find MBoards that
have a lot of M.2 slots. Did find :
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/motherboards/asrock-z790-nova-wifi-has-six-m2-nvme-slots-reinforced-gpu-support
External "m.2 hubs" don't seem to exist. Best I can find are
USB 3.x holders for M.2 cards (own one). Theoretically 10gbs.
MAYbe, someday, some kind of 100gbs optical link to something
fast like M.2 ???
An issue I see is the vast number of people/orgs that
are skipping a local NAS and using nothing but 'cloud'.
Pointy-haired bosses think that's cool. The performance
hit is, well, horrible - but the boss mostly just surfs
his investment accounts and doesn't notice (or listen).
I think a local NAS is extremely valuable. Quick and
you can easily engineer backups or even a fail-over
server if you wanna get fancy. Sinology offers
something kinda like that, a sort of mirroring, if
I remember correctly.
Dunno if anyone here has found a smart way to detect
ANY writes to drives so just the affected file can
be echoed to a mirror. I've messed with some of
the 'C' stuff, but it's most oriented towards just
one folder, preferably sub-folder, and having it
scan an entire 16tb drive all the time just ain't
good. There MAY be someplace to tap into kernel
routines to see and note actual file writes.
SoftRAID is doing something kinda like that but I've
never figured out HOW exactly. The docs are kinda
'dense'.
--
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-21 10:12 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <4985abd5-ec8c-44da-0105-0778434959c0@example.net> |
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On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 1/20/25 3:53 PM, D wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 20/01/2025 09:30, D wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The Pi hat or OMV ? >>>> >>>> The pi, with directly connected spinning disks. Does the hat have its own >>>> extra power supply? >>> >>> I've managed to get a P4 I think to run one spinning rust disk without >>> extra power. >>> Strictly it depends on the disk. >>> The pi hat for 5 drives has an external 60W PSU >> >> Ahh, if it has an external PSU then there is no problem. Ideally, if the pi >> hat for 5 drives is intended to accomodate 5 spinning drives, it would be >> nice if it did so at full speeds. > > > One review said the WRITEs were a little pokey, > but not TOO bad. READs were apparently snappy. > > This is OK ... most stuff on HDDs is "write once / > read more often". Hmm, do you have a link? What does "a little pokey" mean in terms of writes? If it is only performance and latency related, then it is ok, since the software will take care of a lot of that for me. >> Given that the server manufacturers seem to no longer want to produce >> smaller, cheaper nodes, but only want to sell huge GPU machines, I'm >> contemplating if it actually might not be possible to build a nice archive >> solution on pi:s, spinning disks and a few cards at a good price. >> >> To be continued... as the saying goes. > > Yep ... lemme get in and fool with my 5-drive unit > a bit and I'll write a hands-on report. The price > is good enough (the DRIVES are $$$ alas) Great! =) > Even without the SATA hat ... you CAN run a number > of external USB 3.x drives from a Pi. Won't be as > quick, but it works OK. My plan, if it works, is to pitch this to a company, so I think the USB way, although ok for home use, would not be accepted. =( > And yea, I know what you mean about everybody trending > towards "overkill" boxes/systems. Better $ margin I guess. > Still no shortage of motherboards - so you can build > your own "appropriate" boxes. This is the truth! I wonder if it would be possible to 3d print boxes for custom components at a good price? If the pi-road works, I could imagine a nice custom printed part of the chassi to enable nice plug and pray replacement of pi:s! Just pull out a pi module, replace, and go! =) > For an NAS, it's the drive speeds that are kinda the > limiting factor, so even a 'slow' motherboard won't > hurt anything. It's all I/O-bound. As long as the reads and writes are taken care of I'm planning on using some software defined storage solution to help me handle that. Maybe the solution is to add a ssd as a cache or something, or split the data to be written across several spinning disks. What worries me with flaky storage is massive rebuilds. Hmm, is there a way to get Pi:s on a 10 Gb network? Or are they limited to 1 Gb only? > The popular Sinology canned NAS units - 4/6/8/12 drive > units with multiple network plugs - all use basically > laptop-grade 'Celeron' grade processors. Synology are trying to enter the enterprise market! I encountered them in a discussion with a university where they proposed to store 1 PB on their biggest product. Since they use some kind of linux inside, they had all kinds of weird limitations on the nr of files in the same directory etc. Very strange, but it was enough to point at the limitations to get the university to drop them like a hot potato! In the end I did not win, because my customer references where too honest (it's a great solution) vs the competition who obviously orchestrated their customers (it's like having a friend who does everything for you, I never touch the storage, the vendor does anything I ask). =( Well, let's see how happy they are once the signature is on the dotted line.
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-21 19:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vmou5k$bc8h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #64644 |
D <nospam@example.net> wrote: > [-- text/plain, encoding 8bit, charset: utf-8, 94 lines --] > > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > >> On 1/20/25 3:53 PM, D wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 20/01/2025 09:30, D wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The Pi hat or OMV ? >>>>> >>>>> The pi, with directly connected spinning disks. Does the hat have its own >>>>> extra power supply? >>>> >>>> I've managed to get a P4 I think to run one spinning rust disk without >>>> extra power. >>>> Strictly it depends on the disk. >>>> The pi hat for 5 drives has an external 60W PSU >>> >>> Ahh, if it has an external PSU then there is no problem. Ideally, if the pi >>> hat for 5 drives is intended to accomodate 5 spinning drives, it would be >>> nice if it did so at full speeds. >> >> >> One review said the WRITEs were a little pokey, >> but not TOO bad. READs were apparently snappy. >> >> This is OK ... most stuff on HDDs is "write once / >> read more often". > > Hmm, do you have a link? What does "a little pokey" mean in terms of > writes? If it is only performance and latency related, then it is ok, > since the software will take care of a lot of that for me. The nymshift troll was likely referring to two possibilities: 1) SMR mechanical drives 2) SSD's In both cases, writes have to be done in what amounnts to a "two step process". For SMR drives, because the magnetic tracks physically overlap, writes get queued to a non SMR area, and then get "moved" to the actual disk sectors as a bigger batch to maintain the proper "overlap" of the magnetic tracks. For SSD's, writes occur to an "erased" flash block (typically much larger than a "disk sector" size used by the host) and given enough writes over a short enough timeframe the SSD controller can run out of "pre-erased" blocks to use, and when that happens write speed slows down to the rate that can be done when a "block erase" has to occur before the actual writes can hit the media. Note that this "block erase" can also invove moving any partially used data sectors out of the block into another block, creating a "write amplification" situation as well.
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| From | "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-21 19:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <d9idnf_tAICqpA36nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
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On 1/21/25 2:56 PM, Rich wrote: > D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >> [-- text/plain, encoding 8bit, charset: utf-8, 94 lines --] >> >> >> >> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> >>> On 1/20/25 3:53 PM, D wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 20/01/2025 09:30, D wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Pi hat or OMV ? >>>>>> >>>>>> The pi, with directly connected spinning disks. Does the hat have its own >>>>>> extra power supply? >>>>> >>>>> I've managed to get a P4 I think to run one spinning rust disk without >>>>> extra power. >>>>> Strictly it depends on the disk. >>>>> The pi hat for 5 drives has an external 60W PSU >>>> >>>> Ahh, if it has an external PSU then there is no problem. Ideally, if the pi >>>> hat for 5 drives is intended to accomodate 5 spinning drives, it would be >>>> nice if it did so at full speeds. >>> >>> >>> One review said the WRITEs were a little pokey, >>> but not TOO bad. READs were apparently snappy. >>> >>> This is OK ... most stuff on HDDs is "write once / >>> read more often". >> >> Hmm, do you have a link? What does "a little pokey" mean in terms of >> writes? If it is only performance and latency related, then it is ok, >> since the software will take care of a lot of that for me. > > The nymshift troll was likely referring to two possibilities: > > 1) SMR mechanical drives > 2) SSD's > > In both cases, writes have to be done in what amounnts to a "two step > process". > > For SMR drives, because the magnetic tracks physically overlap, writes > get queued to a non SMR area, and then get "moved" to the actual disk > sectors as a bigger batch to maintain the proper "overlap" of the > magnetic tracks. > > For SSD's, writes occur to an "erased" flash block (typically much > larger than a "disk sector" size used by the host) and given enough > writes over a short enough timeframe the SSD controller can run out of > "pre-erased" blocks to use, and when that happens write speed slows > down to the rate that can be done when a "block erase" has to occur > before the actual writes can hit the media. Note that this "block > erase" can also invove moving any partially used data sectors out of > the block into another block, creating a "write amplification" > situation as well. Disks - magnetic or SSD - are kinda messy. Of course their mission is kinda messy - deal with odd-sized blobs of data, try to jam it in somewhere, maybe have to move pre-existing around, try not to create TOO many 'gaps', for years and years. SSDs are quicker regardless and use less power, but that doesn't mean they're just a petabyte of empty space, STUFF has to happen. SSDs trend smaller than HDDs too and are more $$$ per terabyte. Yer basic WD/Seagte magnetic laptop drives are a pretty good deal IF you can handle the power req. Made a "different building" aux backup unit using a Pi-3 and 2.5" USB mag drive. The idea was to keep the Most Important Stuff in a separate building, separate leg of the power system. Used wi-fi ... but had all day to do its thing. This was protection against lighting/surges/fires and the dreaded Giant Mug Of Coffee that might afflict the main NAS. Cheap, worked great, a Python pgm to do the backups (DO confirm yer USB and NAS are both mounted). The USB drive was powered by the Pi, not an external wart. The drive and Pi were taped together and the whole mess was velcroed to the underside of a shelf out in a shop building.
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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-01-22 10:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <27da50fc-f7e3-1462-2bf0-8e234043a319@example.net> |
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On Tue, 21 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 1/21/25 2:56 PM, Rich wrote: >> D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >>> [-- text/plain, encoding 8bit, charset: utf-8, 94 lines --] >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >>> >>>> On 1/20/25 3:53 PM, D wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 20/01/2025 09:30, D wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Pi hat or OMV ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The pi, with directly connected spinning disks. Does the hat have its >>>>>>> own >>>>>>> extra power supply? >>>>>> >>>>>> I've managed to get a P4 I think to run one spinning rust disk without >>>>>> extra power. >>>>>> Strictly it depends on the disk. >>>>>> The pi hat for 5 drives has an external 60W PSU >>>>> >>>>> Ahh, if it has an external PSU then there is no problem. Ideally, if the >>>>> pi >>>>> hat for 5 drives is intended to accomodate 5 spinning drives, it would >>>>> be >>>>> nice if it did so at full speeds. >>>> >>>> >>>> One review said the WRITEs were a little pokey, >>>> but not TOO bad. READs were apparently snappy. >>>> >>>> This is OK ... most stuff on HDDs is "write once / >>>> read more often". >>> >>> Hmm, do you have a link? What does "a little pokey" mean in terms of >>> writes? If it is only performance and latency related, then it is ok, >>> since the software will take care of a lot of that for me. >> >> The nymshift troll was likely referring to two possibilities: >> >> 1) SMR mechanical drives >> 2) SSD's >> >> In both cases, writes have to be done in what amounnts to a "two step >> process". >> >> For SMR drives, because the magnetic tracks physically overlap, writes >> get queued to a non SMR area, and then get "moved" to the actual disk >> sectors as a bigger batch to maintain the proper "overlap" of the >> magnetic tracks. >> >> For SSD's, writes occur to an "erased" flash block (typically much >> larger than a "disk sector" size used by the host) and given enough >> writes over a short enough timeframe the SSD controller can run out of >> "pre-erased" blocks to use, and when that happens write speed slows >> down to the rate that can be done when a "block erase" has to occur >> before the actual writes can hit the media. Note that this "block >> erase" can also invove moving any partially used data sectors out of >> the block into another block, creating a "write amplification" >> situation as well. > > > Disks - magnetic or SSD - are kinda messy. Of course > their mission is kinda messy - deal with odd-sized > blobs of data, try to jam it in somewhere, maybe have > to move pre-existing around, try not to create TOO > many 'gaps', for years and years. > > SSDs are quicker regardless and use less power, but > that doesn't mean they're just a petabyte of empty > space, STUFF has to happen. SSDs trend smaller than > HDDs too and are more $$$ per terabyte. Yer basic > WD/Seagte magnetic laptop drives are a pretty good > deal IF you can handle the power req. This is the truth! > Made a "different building" aux backup unit using > a Pi-3 and 2.5" USB mag drive. The idea was to > keep the Most Important Stuff in a separate > building, separate leg of the power system. Used > wi-fi ... but had all day to do its thing. This > was protection against lighting/surges/fires > and the dreaded Giant Mug Of Coffee that might > afflict the main NAS. Cheap, worked great, a > Python pgm to do the backups (DO confirm yer > USB and NAS are both mounted). The USB drive > was powered by the Pi, not an external wart. > The drive and Pi were taped together and the > whole mess was velcroed to the underside of a > shelf out in a shop building. Good stuff! I replicate between two countries for added resilience. Both rsync and restic work great backing up to a tor hidden service. To speed things up, the first backup can be done locally, and after that, only deltas are sent from around the world. So far restic is still good. I wonder what its weaknesses are? Would be a shame to drop my trusted old rsync script + hardlinks in favour of restic only to discover some hidden bug. On the other hand it seems as if 1000s of people all over the world are using it and are happy with it, so maybe it is mature enough.
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