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| Started by | TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> |
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| First post | 2026-05-30 22:28 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-06-07 01:33 -0400 |
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The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-30 22:28 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-30 23:51 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 04:23 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 02:26 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 06:41 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-31 03:37 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 07:46 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 08:55 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 12:07 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 10:14 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 13:06 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 11:12 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:45 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 05:13 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 18:30 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 20:49 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 02:00 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 09:07 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 02:11 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 09:10 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 02:15 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-06-01 12:20 +0300
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-01 09:38 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 02:20 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-02 11:08 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-02 23:58 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-04 11:47 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-04 11:57 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-05 12:53 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-05 17:35 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-05 16:42 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 00:06 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-06 10:35 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 03:35 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 13:39 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 14:41 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 00:04 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:34 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 18:08 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 21:24 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 01:46 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 03:09 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:17 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 01:33 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:53 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 18:52 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 21:47 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 02:58 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 01:36 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:46 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:15 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 07:52 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:52 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-06-11 18:47 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:00 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 16:59 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:02 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 18:21 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:58 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 19:29 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 20:36 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 16:55 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 01:16 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:28 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:42 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 16:41 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:40 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:35 +0000
[OT] TINA applied to political opponents (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 09:35 +0100
Re: [OT] TINA applied to political opponents The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:07 +0100
Re: [OT] TINA applied to political opponents Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-12 14:18 +0000
Re: [OT] TINA applied to political opponents The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 16:46 +0100
Re: [OT] TINA applied to political opponents rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 19:02 +0000
Re: [OT] TINA applied to political opponents The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 14:00 +0100
Re: [OT] TINA applied to political opponents rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 19:39 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-12 02:52 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:20 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 18:16 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 03:52 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:56 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 13:53 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 01:46 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 06:20 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 03:54 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 14:06 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 19:21 +0000
[OT] Percetion of the USA abroad (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 09:06 +0100
Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 12:03 +0100
Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:44 +0000
Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-11 21:18 +0200
Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:12 +0100
Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 01:27 -0400
Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 06:23 +0000
Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 04:01 -0400
Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad (was: Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:40 +0000
Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-12 12:07 +0100
Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 19:17 +0000
Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-13 14:03 +0100
Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-13 20:06 +0000
Re: [OT] Percetion of the USA abroad c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 00:58 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-10 19:22 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-10 21:48 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 00:57 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:27 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 18:28 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 02:54 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 01:27 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 10:57 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-06-07 08:00 -0700
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:35 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:48 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:53 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 08:26 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 23:06 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 00:11 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-09 17:42 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-06 10:39 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 03:44 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-05 23:55 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 09:40 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:47 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-07 13:58 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-07 20:40 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:39 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 23:00 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 04:36 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 02:30 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:19 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-08 23:53 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-08 14:23 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 02:28 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 18:24 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 02:40 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-10 19:17 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 00:56 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:24 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 18:08 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-08 22:42 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:45 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 01:44 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 03:08 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:07 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 01:03 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 10:43 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 10:52 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 00:33 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 06:03 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-11 02:42 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-11 17:26 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-11 11:31 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-12 02:37 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-12 18:13 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-13 03:46 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-09 18:31 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 03:16 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:54 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2026-06-08 21:46 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 04:50 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 03:16 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 08:49 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 01:48 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:11 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 01:32 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-10 05:38 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-10 10:49 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-10 11:08 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 00:31 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-11 03:31 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 04:36 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-11 08:37 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-11 19:02 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-09 18:31 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 02:54 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-08 14:12 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 18:08 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-09 01:30 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 11:15 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-09 18:31 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 14:30 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 23:38 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 09:22 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-09 00:28 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 04:03 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-06-06 18:42 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 08:53 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 01:53 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 08:52 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 01:41 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 06:41 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 03:07 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 13:28 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-06 19:16 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 05:18 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-06-07 18:59 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 09:40 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:51 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-07 04:56 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-05-31 16:43 +0800
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 08:48 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-31 10:16 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-05-31 10:22 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 06:38 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-06 03:04 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 13:32 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 11:34 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-06 14:01 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-09 20:29 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-09 22:52 +0200
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-06-10 04:36 -0400
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-10 08:48 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-06 09:17 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-06 09:40 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:57 +0000
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:11 +0100
Re: The boring Linux habit that saves machines TheLastSysop <thelastsysop@dev.null> - 2026-06-09 20:30 +0000
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-09 01:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n8p9jqF8q2vU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87701 |
On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him. > Oh well, same day, different war... Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-09 03:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <zOCcnVFzd4itIbr3nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87709 |
On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him. >> Oh well, same day, different war... > > Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell > Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead. Wow ... TDS even here .........
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-09 11:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1108p7r$3t5ug$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #87727 |
On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote: > On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote: >> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him. >>> Oh well, same day, different war... >> >> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell >> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead. > > Wow ... TDS even here ......... > It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House. -- New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in someone else's pocket.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 01:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1OKdnWPXId28arX3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87737 |
On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote: >> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote: >>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> >>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him. >>>> Oh well, same day, different war... >>> >>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell >>> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead. >> >> Wow ... TDS even here ......... >> > It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House. Tisk !
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 11:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <110bfn5$m24r$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #87778 |
On 10/06/2026 06:33, c186282 wrote: > On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote: >>> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>> >>>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him. >>>>> Oh well, same day, different war... >>>> >>>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell >>>> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead. >>> >>> Wow ... TDS even here ......... >>> >> It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House. > > Tisk ! > From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from Trump, sonofabitch, to those believing in the second coming of Trump, son of God. He's just a very naughty boy. -- In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act. - George Orwell
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 18:52 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pahofmxcl8.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #87804 |
On 2026-06-10 12:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 10/06/2026 06:33, c186282 wrote: >> On 6/9/26 06:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 09/06/2026 08:09, c186282 wrote: >>>> On 6/8/26 21:46, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 18:08:10 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I thought it was Netanyahu that bought him. >>>>>> Oh well, same day, different war... >>>>> >>>>> Bibi's shabbas goy is getting uppity these days and thinks he can tell >>>>> Bibi what to do. Interesting days ahead. >>>> >>>> Wow ... TDS even here ......... >>>> >>> It's everywhere. Mostly in the White House. >> >> Tisk ! >> > From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit > crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from > Trump, sonofabitch, to those believing in the second coming of Trump, > son of God. > > He's just a very naughty boy. Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are friends. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-10 21:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <110cigv$10v56$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #87810 |
On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit >> crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from >> Trump, sonofabitch, to those believing in the second coming of Trump, >> son of God. >> >> He's just a very naughty boy. > > Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are friends. Well the US state, anyway, Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term interest. Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth protecting. Trump is simply too stupid to understand that. If he cant make a profit right now, he isn't interested. -- Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that don't protect, masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-11 02:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n8uminF52itU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87823 |
On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 21:47:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit >>> crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from >>> Trump, sonofabitch, to those believing in the second coming of Trump, >>> son of God. >>> >>> He's just a very naughty boy. >> >> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are >> friends. > > Well the US state, anyway, > > Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term interest. > Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth protecting. https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/european- union https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/eu-us-trade/ If you have a $200 billion trade deficit is it worth pursuing the market? The sectors that do export to the EU would say yes; the sectors hurt by EU imports might not be as enthusiastic. It's clear why the US is so intent on exporting LNG to the EU, particularly Germany. It's not so clear why Germany chose that alternative to cheaper Russian gas.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-06-11 01:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <I-GcnYM-B9361Lf3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #87826 |
On 6/10/26 22:58, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 21:47:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> From afar, it seems that the whole American nation have gone batshit >>>> crazy, from the Librals prophesying complete societal collapse from >>>> Trump, sonofabitch, to those believing in the second coming of Trump, >>>> son of God. >>>> >>>> He's just a very naughty boy. >>> >>> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are >>> friends. >> >> Well the US state, anyway, >> >> Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term interest. >> Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth protecting. > > https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/european- > union > > https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/eu-us-trade/ > > If you have a $200 billion trade deficit is it worth pursuing the market? > The sectors that do export to the EU would say yes; the sectors hurt by EU > imports might not be as enthusiastic. It's clear why the US is so intent > on exporting LNG to the EU, particularly Germany. It's not so clear why > Germany chose that alternative to cheaper Russian gas. Well ... CHEAPER ! But that CAN screw you. Despite the recent new surge against Iran, the EU can expect its reserves to run out fairly soon. Jet fuel seems to be the first one to go. Trump was smart to fix Venezuela FIRST :-) There ARE alternative oil/gas sources around the world, out of the Gulf sphere. Seems a lot of panic investment going into those now. The USA can supply JUST enough petrochemicals to keep the EU alive. Not 'healthy', but alive. Alas DID see a news blurb today saying Chinese EVs are surging. The advantage WON'T last though, energy is energy. Too many people Plug In and the electric grids will start to buckle and the price per KW will go WAY up.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-11 11:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <110e3lb$1cf90$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #87839 |
On 11/06/2026 06:36, c186282 wrote: > The USA can supply JUST enough petrochemicals to > keep the EU alive. Not 'healthy', but alive. The USA cant supply itself alone. "The United States remained a net crude oil importer in 2022, importing about 6.28 million b/d of crude oil and exporting about 3.58 million b/d." https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-and-exports.php Hows that cheap pump gas doing pal? -- "In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is true: it is true because it is powerful." Lucas Bergkamp
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-11 17:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n908q9Fca6vU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87860 |
On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 11:46:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 11/06/2026 06:36, c186282 wrote: >> The USA can supply JUST enough petrochemicals to >> keep the EU alive. Not 'healthy', but alive. > > The USA cant supply itself alone. > > "The United States remained a net crude oil importer in 2022, importing > about 6.28 million b/d of crude oil and exporting about 3.58 million > b/d." > > https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports- and-exports.php > Hows that cheap pump gas doing pal? The US is extremely good at shooting itself in the foot. Much of the crude from US wells is light sweet. The refineries tooled up to use the sour heavy crude that was cheaper at the time. Then there is LNG. The Jones Act from the 1920s stipulated products shipped between US ports have to be carried on US flagged ships. Unfortunately there aren't any US flagged tankers so if you're sitting on a lot of LNG in Texas you need to convince the Germans to buy it after you ship it there on a Liberian flagged tanker. Meanwhile, if you're freezing your balls off in Boston, you have to import LNG. LNG is a fungible commodity but it was embarrassing when it was determined that some of it originated from Rosprom. That 1920s law was meant to protect the US merchant marine and failed to do that. My brother in law was a merchant seaman and had his captain's papers although he never sailed higher than second officer. When he sailed, that is. Almost all hiring was done through the Masters, Mates, and Pilots union which only allowed the members to work six months a year to spread the work around. The union paid benefits during the off months. At one time I thought about a career in the merchant marine as an engineer rather than a deck officer. Fortunately I didn't take that path.
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-11 07:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <wwv1pedd0wk.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #87826 |
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes: > The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 10/06/2026 17:52, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> Read a stat today, only 1 in 10 Europeans think the Americans are >>> friends. >> >> Well the US state, anyway, >> >> Fundamentally the US would at least work towards its long term >> interest. Europe was a market as big as the USA and was worth >> protecting. > > https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/european- > union > > https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/eu-us-trade/ > > If you have a $200 billion trade deficit is it worth pursuing the > market? The _goods_ trade deficit is ~$200bn in the EU’s favour; the total (goods and services) trade deficit is around $20bn out of $1.7tn. Basically a rounding error. Also the EU is not famous for being cheap as a place to do business, if the US is running a goods trade deficit with it then that seems like a skill issue. What are you guys playing at?! Hire some competent managers. > The sectors that do export to the EU would say yes; the sectors hurt > by EU imports might not be as enthusiastic. It's clear why the US is > so intent on exporting LNG to the EU, particularly Germany. It's not > so clear why Germany chose that alternative to cheaper Russian gas. At least to an extent, Germany chose non-Russian gas because Ukraine blew up the undersea pipeline... they’ve mostly got their heads turned back round to realizing that Russia is a threat again by now though. -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-11 11:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <110e415$1cf90$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #87850 |
On 11/06/2026 07:52, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > At least to an extent, Germany chose non-Russian gas because Ukraine > blew up the undersea pipeline... they’ve mostly got their heads turned > back round to realizing that Russia is a threat again by now though. Russia bribed and blackmailed better than The USA. Russian gas was cheap and it allowed Germany to pretend that solar panels and windmills actually worked. Now Germany will start building nuclear power again. PS kudos to Canada for restarting BRUCE nuclear power station in record time after refurbishment. And Ukraine has blown up more than one Russian pipeline. There is no fuel in Western Russia to be had at all. -- “But what a weak barrier is truth when it stands in the way of an hypothesis!” Mary Wollstonecraft
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| From | Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> |
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| Date | 2026-06-11 18:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <110eoru$1algm$1@news1.tnib.de> |
| In reply to | #87861 |
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >On 11/06/2026 07:52, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >> At least to an extent, Germany chose non-Russian gas because Ukraine >> blew up the undersea pipeline... they’ve mostly got their heads turned >> back round to realizing that Russia is a threat again by now though. > >Russia bribed and blackmailed better than The USA. >Russian gas was cheap and it allowed Germany to pretend that solar >panels and windmills actually worked. Solar panels and "Windmills" DO actually work. >Now Germany will start building nuclear power again. No, we won't. The problem ist that we need power networks first and additional energy second, both of them _right_ _now_. Our politicians are lying at us when they pretend that new nuclear power will be there before 2045 which is 20 years to late to solve current problems. There is no nuclear technology that will be only quickly enough. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-12 12:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <110gors$23pa0$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #87865 |
On 11/06/2026 17:47, Marc Haber wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 11/06/2026 07:52, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>> At least to an extent, Germany chose non-Russian gas because Ukraine >>> blew up the undersea pipeline... they’ve mostly got their heads turned >>> back round to realizing that Russia is a threat again by now though. >> >> Russia bribed and blackmailed better than The USA. >> Russian gas was cheap and it allowed Germany to pretend that solar >> panels and windmills actually worked. > > Solar panels and "Windmills" DO actually work. > Just not to reduce global CO2 levels. Or global poverty >> Now Germany will start building nuclear power again. > > No, we won't. The problem ist that we need power networks first and > additional energy second, both of them _right_ _now_. Our politicians > are lying at us when they pretend that new nuclear power will be there > before 2045 which is 20 years to late to solve current problems. > > There is no nuclear technology that will be only quickly enough. > As usual wrong. -- Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-11 16:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n907s0Fca6vU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87861 |
On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 11:52:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > And Ukraine has blown up more than one Russian pipeline. There is no > fuel in Western Russia to be had at all. Going back to well before Euromaidan there was a strange effect with pipelines that transited the Ukraine. Fuel seemed to evaporate. At least the Ukrainians were more sophisticated than the Africans who tend to create large craters when they try to steal fuel.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-12 12:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <110gp08$23pa0$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #87867 |
On 11/06/2026 17:59, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 11:52:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> And Ukraine has blown up more than one Russian pipeline. There is no >> fuel in Western Russia to be had at all. > > Going back to well before Euromaidan there was a strange effect with > pipelines that transited the Ukraine. Fuel seemed to evaporate. At least > the Ukrainians were more sophisticated than the Africans who tend to > create large craters when they try to steal fuel. The Russians simply stole it themselves and swore blind they had put it in the pipeline Like Islam, Russia is founded on institutional lying to the rest of the world, and in the case of Russia, to itself. -- Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is that they are dead. Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-12 18:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n9311bFprtfU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87897 |
On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 12:02:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > The Russians simply stole it themselves and swore blind they had put it > in the pipeline Like Islam, Russia is founded on institutional lying to > the rest of the world, and in the case of Russia, to itself. https://archive.is/6q9Gp "HOW BRITAIN BECAME AS POOR AS MISSISSIPPI" Perhaps you should shovel out your own stable. Has Starmer resigned yet? Not a good sign when his buddy quit since there is no money for his war toys. It's reminiscent of the '30s when Chamberlain and Halifax were trying to figure out how to wage war when the toy cupboard was bare. They managed to pull it off. Can the current administration?
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-06-13 13:58 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <110jk4u$2uagj$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #87907 |
On 12/06/2026 19:21, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jun 2026 12:02:32 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> The Russians simply stole it themselves and swore blind they had put it >> in the pipeline Like Islam, Russia is founded on institutional lying to >> the rest of the world, and in the case of Russia, to itself. > > https://archive.is/6q9Gp > > "HOW BRITAIN BECAME AS POOR AS MISSISSIPPI" > > Perhaps you should shovel out your own stable. Has Starmer resigned yet? > Not a good sign when his buddy quit since there is no money for his war > toys. It's reminiscent of the '30s when Chamberlain and Halifax were > trying to figure out how to wage war when the toy cupboard was bare. They > managed to pull it off. Can the current administration? > The short answer to who broke Britain is of course Tony Blair, the EU and the Russians. -- No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-06-13 19:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n95pcbF8crcU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #87933 |
On Sat, 13 Jun 2026 13:58:06 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > The short answer to who broke Britain is of course Tony Blair, the EU > and the Russians. Blair, Clinton, and W were all carved from the same neoliberal turd. Bush II was another case of who do you vote for when the other choice is that fat, hypocritical, windbag, Gore.
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