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Wayland Makes Progress

Started byLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
First post2026-04-30 07:50 +0000
Last post2026-05-05 01:09 +0000
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  Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-30 07:50 +0000
    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2026-04-30 12:29 +0000
      Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-30 17:29 +0100
        Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-30 09:53 -0700
          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-04-30 18:02 +0100
            Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-04-30 10:15 -0700
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-30 22:26 +0000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 13:56 -0700
                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-01 22:41 +0000
                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-01 15:54 -0700
                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-01 23:07 +0000
                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 08:32 -0700
                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-04 23:40 +0000
                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 15:20 -0700
                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-04 23:52 +0000
                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 08:12 -0700
                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-05 15:57 +0000
                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 09:10 -0700
                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-05 18:14 +0000
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-06 17:41 +0100
                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-05 21:52 +0000
                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-05 15:26 -0700
                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-06 04:11 +0000
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-06 08:43 -0700
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-05-06 16:30 +0000
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-06 21:13 +0000
                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-06 22:06 -0400
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-05-07 03:49 +0000
                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-07 16:37 -0400
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-07 13:06 +0000
                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-07 18:35 +0000
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-07 21:30 +0000
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-08 12:54 +0000
                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-08 19:07 +0000
                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-08 21:58 -0400
                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 03:31 +0000
                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-09 00:48 -0400
                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 07:44 +0000
                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-09 13:46 +0200
                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 16:42 +0000
                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-09 22:02 +0200
                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-09 23:38 +0000
                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-10 19:31 +0200
                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-15 13:55 +0200
                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-15 17:04 +0000
                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-24 07:01 +0000
                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-24 09:54 +0200
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-24 09:30 +0100
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-24 10:46 +0200
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-24 17:39 +0000
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-24 17:33 +0000
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-25 01:47 +0000
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-25 11:42 +0200
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-25 12:57 +0100
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-26 08:28 -0700
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-26 17:43 +0200
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-26 23:02 +0200
                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-27 07:49 +0200
                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-27 08:34 +0100
                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-27 11:03 +0200
                                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-27 12:20 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-27 22:53 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-28 02:54 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 00:04 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-28 23:55 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-29 02:06 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-29 01:19 +0000
                                                                                          TV scripts and their computation by machine (was: Re: Wayland Makes Progress) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 09:29 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-28 15:45 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-29 09:11 +0100
                                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-27 14:05 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-27 14:29 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-27 18:28 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-27 21:36 +0100
                                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-27 18:44 +0000
                                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-27 23:53 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-28 07:37 +0200
                                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-28 09:07 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-28 13:37 +0200
                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 23:39 +0000
                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-10 20:09 +0200
                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-11 03:19 +0000
                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-11 01:03 -0400
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-11 06:05 +0000
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-11 11:35 +0200
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-11 16:38 +0000
                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-11 20:21 +0200
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-11 09:10 -0700
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-11 19:42 +0200
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 01:58 +0000
                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:18 +0200
                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 15:43 +0000
                                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 18:27 +0200
                                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 03:17 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-13 13:08 +0200
                                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-12 10:34 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 03:22 +0000
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-11 12:13 +0100
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-11 16:11 +0000
                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-11 11:20 +0200
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-11 15:45 +0000
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-11 19:48 +0200
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 01:43 +0000
                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:26 +0200
                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 22:15 +0000
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-12 02:57 +0000
                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-09 13:42 +0200
                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 16:35 +0000
                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-09 22:04 +0200
                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-09 12:47 +0100
                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-09 12:15 +0100
                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 17:26 +0000
                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-10 01:04 +0100
                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-10 12:33 +0000
                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-10 23:12 +0000
                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-11 13:12 +0000
                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-11 14:45 +0100
                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-11 16:05 +0000
                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-11 17:37 +0100
                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 02:35 +0000
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-11 23:42 -0400
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:31 +0200
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:27 +0000
                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 10:41 +0100
                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 16:12 +0000
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-12 20:46 -0400
                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 03:55 +0000
                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-12 21:44 -0700
                                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 17:09 +0000
                                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-13 19:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 10:25 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-14 18:38 +0000
                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 12:34 +0100
                                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 17:10 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-13 21:34 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 10:26 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-14 12:43 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 11:54 +0100
                                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-14 18:38 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 22:33 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-14 23:28 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-15 04:36 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-15 04:58 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-15 08:01 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-15 17:20 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-15 11:21 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-15 02:37 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-15 17:17 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-17 05:25 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-14 17:08 +0000
                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 12:27 +0100
                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 17:36 +0000
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 14:18 +0100
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 14:22 +0100
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 20:41 +0100
                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 12:21 +0100
                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 16:04 +0000
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-12 13:24 +0000
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 15:10 +0100
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-12 08:54 -0700
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:29 +0000
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:23 +0000
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 14:16 +0100
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:36 +0000
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-12 09:51 -0700
                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 03:52 +0000
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-12 19:55 +0000
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 03:45 +0000
                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-11 09:46 -0700
                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-11 18:09 +0100
                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 02:55 +0000
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-11 23:46 -0400
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 14:25 +0100
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:07 +0000
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:00 +0000
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-11 20:58 -0700
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 14:27 +0100
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 14:24 +0100
                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-11 21:05 -0400
                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-12 13:19 +0000
                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 15:04 +0100
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 18:39 +0200
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-12 10:44 -0700
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 04:28 +0000
                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-12 21:50 -0700
                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 12:10 +0100
                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 16:22 +0000
                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 11:49 +0100
                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 16:59 +0000
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 11:34 +0100
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 04:23 +0000
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 12:14 +0100
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 11:23 +0100
                                                                          Peoples [Was: Wayland Makes Progress] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-13 13:34 +0200
                                                                            Re: Peoples [Was: Wayland Makes Progress] Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-15 20:17 +0000
                                                                              Re: Peoples [Was: Wayland Makes Progress] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-15 22:28 +0200
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-16 08:17 +0000
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-17 00:02 -0400
                                                                            Pre-history (was Re: Wayland Makes Progress) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 15:56 -0700
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-13 13:21 +0000
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 14:43 +0100
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-14 12:55 +0000
                                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 14:19 +0100
                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-14 16:51 +0000
                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-14 23:08 +0200
                                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-14 22:35 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-14 23:39 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-15 14:04 +0200
                                                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-16 12:45 +0000
                                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-16 20:46 +0000
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 15:49 +0000
                                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-13 09:10 -0700
                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-29 07:33 +0000
                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-11 22:54 +0000
                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 03:24 +0000
                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 14:31 +0100
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:39 +0000
                                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 10:55 +0100
                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-12 13:18 +0000
                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 14:51 +0100
                                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 15:50 +0000
                                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-28 07:17 +0000
                                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-05-12 08:23 +0100
                                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 14:38 +0100
                                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-11 12:04 +0100
                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-07 21:29 +0000
                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-09 10:18 +0000
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-09 13:49 +0000
                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-10 13:00 +0000
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-09 20:46 +0000
                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-10 01:06 +0100
                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-10 13:08 +0000
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-09 23:33 +0000
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-08 21:45 +0000
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 15:23 -0700
                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-09 03:42 +0100
                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-06 01:35 +0000
                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-06 17:49 +0100
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-06 19:05 +0000
                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-07 12:59 +0000
                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-07 16:55 +0100
                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-07 21:32 +0000
                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-08 12:56 +0000
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-08 18:05 +0000
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-08 13:01 -0700
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-08 21:41 +0000
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-09 14:03 +0000
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-09 15:46 +0000
                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 16:56 +0000
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-09 18:04 +0100
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 16:51 +0000
                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-09 18:40 +0100
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-05-10 16:50 +0100
                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-10 22:46 +0100
                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-15 19:58 +0000
                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-15 21:23 +0100
                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-15 21:08 +0000
                                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-05-17 08:01 +0100
                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-17 03:35 -0400
                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-17 10:31 +0100
                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-17 11:11 +0000
                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-17 14:52 +0200
                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-17 16:35 +0000
                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-17 21:00 +0100
                                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-22 06:51 +0000
                                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-22 11:04 +0200
                                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-22 22:38 -0400
                                                          Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-23 09:19 +0200
                                                            Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 09:22 +0100
                                                              Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-23 14:04 +0200
                                                                Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 14:04 +0100
                                                                  Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-23 19:43 +0200
                                                                    Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-24 09:27 +0100
                                                                      Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-24 10:49 +0200
                                                                      Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-24 12:09 +0200
                                                              Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-23 13:26 +0000
                                                                Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 15:22 +0100
                                                                  Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-23 14:26 +0000
                                                                    Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-24 10:00 +0200
                                                                Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 17:01 +0100
                                                                Moving sshd to a different port (Was: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress)) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-05-23 16:28 +0000
                                                                  Re: Moving sshd to a different port (Was: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress)) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-23 17:43 +0100
                                                                  Re: Moving sshd to a different port (Was: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress)) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-24 01:06 -0400
                                                                    Re: Moving sshd to a different port (Was: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress)) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-05-24 05:36 +0000
                                                                      Re: Moving sshd to a different port (Was: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress)) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-24 02:45 -0400
                                                                Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-23 19:44 +0200
                                                            Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-23 14:57 +0200
                                                              Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-23 16:53 +0000
                                                                Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-24 12:20 +0100
                                                              Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-23 19:46 +0200
                                                                Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-24 10:08 +0200
                                                                  Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-24 10:32 +0200
                                                                    Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-24 10:50 +0200
                                                                    Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-24 21:57 -0400
                                                            Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-24 08:54 +1000
                                                              Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-24 10:33 +0200
                                                                Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-24 11:26 +0100
                                                                  Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-24 17:04 +0000
                                                                  Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-24 20:00 +0200
                                                                    Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-24 22:23 +0200
                                                                      Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-25 08:09 +1000
                                                                        Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-25 07:34 +0200
                                                                          Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-25 06:18 +0000
                                                                            Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-25 10:29 +0200
                                                                              Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-25 21:54 +0000
                                                                          Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-05-25 07:25 +0100
                                                                            Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-25 06:45 +0000
                                                                              Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-25 08:38 +0100
                                                                              Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-05-25 10:50 +0100
                                                                            Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-25 10:35 +0200
                                                                              Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-05-25 10:54 +0100
                                                                                Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-25 13:41 +0200
                                                                                Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-26 09:14 +1000
                                                                          Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2026-05-25 18:01 +1000
                                                                            Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-25 11:54 +0200
                                                                        Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-25 11:48 +0200
                                                                          Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-05-25 11:04 +0100
                                                                            Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-25 13:44 +0200
                                                                            Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-26 00:46 +0000
                                                                              Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-05-27 12:38 +0100
                                                                                Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-27 22:47 +0000
                                                                    Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-25 06:17 +0000
                                                                      Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-25 10:35 +0200
                                                                Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-24 17:54 +0000
                                                            Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-24 06:58 +0000
                                                              Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-24 10:36 +0200
                                                                Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-25 04:13 +0000
                                                              Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (was: title without w in "was:"?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-24 11:29 +0100
                                                              Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-24 17:04 +0000
                                                              Re: Remote and Out of Band Access (as: Wayland Makes Progress) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-24 17:47 +0000
                                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-23 14:47 +0200
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-10 00:28 +0000
                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-02 10:25 +0100
                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 09:43 -0700
          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-01 15:32 +0000
            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-01 22:21 +0200
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-05-01 20:36 +0000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-01 22:37 +0000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-01 23:40 +0100
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-02 09:07 +0000
                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-02 12:32 +0200
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-02 12:29 +0200
                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-02 20:22 +0000
                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-02 23:27 +0000
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-01 23:39 +0100
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-03 09:20 +0200
        Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-04-30 14:39 -0400
        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-01 15:29 +0000
      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-01 09:30 +0000
        Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-01 13:36 +0200
          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-01 22:36 +0000
            Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-02 12:43 +0200
              VMware (Was: Wayland Makes Progress) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-05-02 10:53 +0000
                Re: VMware (Was: Wayland Makes Progress) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-02 13:14 +0200
                  Re: VMware (Was: Wayland Makes Progress) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-02 13:29 +0000
                Re: VMware (Was: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-02 13:39 +0200
                  Re: VMware (Was: Wayland Makes Progress) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-05-02 11:52 +0000
                    Re: VMware (Was: Wayland Makes Progress) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-02 13:32 +0000
                      Re: VMware (Was: Wayland Makes Progress) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-02 15:09 +0100
                        Re: VMware (Was: Wayland Makes Progress) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-02 18:29 +0000
                      Re: VMware (Was: Wayland Makes Progress) Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-02 19:15 +0200
                    Re: VMware (Was: Wayland Makes Progress) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-02 20:25 +0200
        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-03 12:34 +0000
          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-03 13:50 +0100
          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-03 22:03 +0000
            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-04 12:51 +0000
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-05-04 19:35 +0000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-07 12:56 +0000
                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-07 16:53 +0100
                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-05-07 17:39 +0000
                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-07 20:10 +0100
                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-08 13:04 +0000
                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-08 14:27 +0100
                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-08 19:05 +0000
                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-09 14:01 +0000
                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-09 15:15 +0100
                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 16:24 +0000
                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-09 14:44 -0700
                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 23:08 +0000
                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-10 00:30 +0000
                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-10 13:04 +0000
                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-08 21:53 +0000
                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 15:13 -0700
                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-09 13:55 +0000
                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-09 15:52 +0000
                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-10 13:10 +0000
                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-10 18:46 +0000
                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-11 13:38 +0000
                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-05-11 17:46 +0000
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-11 18:57 +0100
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-11 20:07 +0200
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-15 09:10 +0000
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 02:04 +0000
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-11 22:49 -0400
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:38 +0000
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:34 +0000
                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-10 23:30 +0000
                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-11 13:30 +0000
                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-11 16:56 +0000
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-11 22:38 +0200
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 02:25 +0000
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-05-12 08:02 +0200
                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-12 02:24 -0400
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:53 +0200
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 17:09 +0000
                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 17:06 +0000
                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 22:54 +0000
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-13 13:39 +0200
                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 12:58 +0100
                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 16:03 +0000
                                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-13 22:54 +0200
                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 15:56 +0000
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-13 13:13 +0000
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:51 +0200
                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-16 08:20 +0000
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-16 20:24 +0000
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-11 22:30 -0400
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:44 +0000
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 12:15 +0100
                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-13 16:16 +0000
                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-11 23:01 +0000
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 02:11 +0000
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-11 19:58 -0700
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:53 +0000
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:56 +0200
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:44 +0000
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 14:40 +0100
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:49 +0000
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-05-12 08:06 -0700
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-13 10:34 +0100
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:47 +0000
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-12 12:40 +0000
                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 17:03 +0000
                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-10 00:33 +0000
                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-10 13:01 +0000
                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-10 23:21 +0000
                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-11 13:52 +0000
                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-05-08 09:23 +1000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-09 10:02 +0000
                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-09 12:58 +0100
                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 17:14 +0000
                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-09 20:46 +0000
                        Dump Truck (Was: Wayland Makes Progress) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-05-09 21:30 +0000
                          Re: Dump Truck (Was: Wayland Makes Progress) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-10 00:58 +0100
                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-09 14:38 -0700
                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 23:12 +0000
                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-09 16:22 -0700
                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-09 23:33 +0000
                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-10 01:02 +0100
                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-10 17:40 +0000
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-11 12:11 +0100
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-11 15:52 +0000
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-11 09:22 -0700
                                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 03:51 +0000
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-11 21:14 -0700
                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-12 01:14 -0400
                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:58 +0000
                                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-12 00:36 -0400
                                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 17:03 +0000
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-11 12:40 -0400
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 03:27 +0000
                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-09 17:02 -0700
                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-10 01:00 +0100
                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-10 00:57 +0100
                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-05-10 17:40 +0000
                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-10 22:54 +0100
                            Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-11 12:12 +0100
                              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-11 15:55 +0000
                                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-11 09:32 -0700
                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-11 17:46 +0100
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-11 21:50 -0400
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 14:12 +0100
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 03:23 +0000
                                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 03:16 +0000
                                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-11 21:23 -0700
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-05-12 01:23 -0400
                                        Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-12 14:29 +0100
                                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-12 16:41 +0000
                          Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-10 23:16 +0000
                  Re: Wayland Makes Progress Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-05-09 14:35 -0700
                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-09 23:52 +0000
                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-10 01:08 +0100
                    Re: Wayland Makes Progress Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-05-10 13:33 +0000
                      Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-10 23:15 +0000
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-04 23:57 +0000
                Re: Wayland Makes Progress Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.invalid> - 2026-05-07 12:50 +0000
              Re: Wayland Makes Progress rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-05 01:09 +0000

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#86300

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-05-09 22:02 +0200
Message-ID<qfg4dmxl1q.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#86291
On 2026-05-09 18:42, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 9 May 2026 13:46:21 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> "yast" produces the TUI. yast2 produces the GUI. yast is a symlink to
>> yast2.
> 
> You are correct that yast is a symlink to yast2. 'sudo yast' and 'sudo
> yast2' on Leap 16 produce the same TUI. I believe the problems with Ruby
> 3.4 that caused yast to be dropped from Leap 16 may be the problem.

No, I tried precisely on 16.0. yast2 produces the GUI for me. But I am on X, no wayland. Using XFCE, or "ssh -X ..."

Using ssh:

Laptop:

Laicolasse:~ # inxi -G -C
CPU:
   Info: 8-core model: AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 5875U with Radeon Graphics bits: 64
     type: MT MCP cache: L2: 4 MiB
   Speed (MHz): avg: 1096 min/max: 411/4548 cores: 1: 1096 2: 1096 3: 1096
     4: 1096 5: 1096 6: 1096 7: 1096 8: 1096 9: 1096 10: 1096 11: 1096 12: 1096
     13: 1096 14: 1096 15: 1096 16: 1096
Graphics:
   Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Barcelo driver: amdgpu v: kernel
   Device-2: Luxvisions Innotech Integrated RGB Camera driver: uvcvideo
     type: USB
   Display: unspecified server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
     driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi
     gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
   API: EGL v: 1.5 drivers: radeonsi,swrast
     platforms: gbm,x11,surfaceless,device
   API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: mesa v: 24.3.3 renderer: llvmpipe
     (LLVM 19.1.7 256 bits)
   API: Vulkan v: 1.4.309 drivers: N/A surfaces: xcb,xlib
Laicolasse:~ # yast2
Laicolasse:~ # rpm -qa | grep -i yast
yast2-theme-5.0.1-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-storage-ng-5.0.34-160000.1.2.x86_64
yast2-journal-4.6.0-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-transfer-5.0.0-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-firewall-4.6.0-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-trans-stats-2.19.0-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-users-5.0.6-160000.2.2.x86_64
autoyast2-installation-5.0.6-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-logs-5.0.13-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-x11-5.0.2-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-hardware-detection-5.0.0-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-add-on-4.7.0-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-trans-es-84.87.20230818.ea489402e5-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-core-5.0.3-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-update-5.0.1-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-slp-5.0.0-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-installation-5.0.15-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-country-5.0.3-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-packager-5.0.6-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-perl-bindings-5.0.4-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-ldap-5.0.0-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-network-5.0.5-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-bootloader-5.0.21-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-trans-en_GB-84.87.20230818.ea489402e5-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-ycp-ui-bindings-5.0.1-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-ruby-bindings-5.0.4-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-pam-5.0.0-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-proxy-5.0.0-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-security-5.0.3-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-kdump-4.7.2-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-services-manager-5.0.1-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-country-data-5.0.3-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-ntp-client-5.0.0-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-xml-5.0.0-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-pkg-bindings-5.0.5-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-5.0.13-160000.2.2.x86_64
Laicolasse:~ #


vmware VM

Gollum:~ # yast2
Gollum:~ # cat /etc/os-release
NAME="openSUSE Leap"
VERSION="16.0"
ID="opensuse-leap"
ID_LIKE="suse opensuse"
VERSION_ID="16.0"
PRETTY_NAME="openSUSE Leap 16.0"
ANSI_COLOR="0;32"
CPE_NAME="cpe:/o:opensuse:leap:16.0"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.opensuse.org"
HOME_URL="https://www.opensuse.org/"
DOCUMENTATION_URL="https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Leap"
LOGO="distributor-logo-Leap"
(failed reverse-i-search)`inxi': localectl set-x11-keymap es pc105 w^Ckeys
Gollum:~ # inxi -G -C
CPU:
   Info: 2x 2-core model: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X bits: 64 type: MCP SMP cache:
     L2: 2x 1024 KiB (2 MiB)
   Speed (MHz): avg: 3800 min/max: N/A cores: 1: 3800 2: 3800 3: 3800 4: 3800
Graphics:
   Device-1: VMware SVGA II Adapter driver: vmwgfx v: 2.20.0.0
   Display: x11 server: X.org v: 1.21.1.15 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6 driver:
     X: loaded: vmware unloaded: modesetting,vesa gpu: vmwgfx
     resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
   API: OpenGL v: 4.5 vendor: mesa v: 24.3.3 renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 19.1.7
     256 bits)
   API: EGL Message: EGL data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.
Gollum:~ # rpm -qa | grep -i yast
yast2-core-5.0.3-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-logs-5.0.13-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-ycp-ui-bindings-5.0.1-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-pkg-bindings-5.0.5-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-ruby-bindings-5.0.4-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-perl-bindings-5.0.4-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-transfer-5.0.0-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-hardware-detection-5.0.0-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-country-data-5.0.3-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-5.0.13-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-packager-5.0.6-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-storage-ng-5.0.34-160000.1.2.x86_64
yast2-bootloader-5.0.21-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-kdump-4.7.2-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-xml-5.0.0-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-trans-stats-2.19.0-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-firewall-4.6.0-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-pam-5.0.0-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-proxy-5.0.0-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-services-manager-5.0.1-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-theme-5.0.1-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-x11-5.0.2-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-country-5.0.3-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-network-5.0.5-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-slp-5.0.0-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-security-5.0.3-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-ntp-client-5.0.0-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-ldap-5.0.0-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-users-5.0.6-160000.2.2.x86_64
yast2-installation-5.0.15-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-update-5.0.1-160000.2.2.x86_64
autoyast2-installation-5.0.6-160000.2.2.noarch
yast2-add-on-4.7.0-160000.2.2.noarch
Gollum:~ #

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#86312

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-05-09 23:38 +0000
Message-ID<10togh0$df8$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#86300
On Sat, 9 May 2026 22:02:34 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Laicolasse:~ # rpm -qa | grep -i yast

It’s been a few years since I sat in front of an RPM-based system
(SuSE), but couldn’t this be written

    rpm -qa name='*yast*'

?

<https://manpages.debian.org/rpm(8)>

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#86339

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-05-10 19:31 +0200
Message-ID<c1s6dmx0dp.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#86312
On 2026-05-10 01:38, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 9 May 2026 22:02:34 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> Laicolasse:~ # rpm -qa | grep -i yast
> 
> It’s been a few years since I sat in front of an RPM-based system
> (SuSE), but couldn’t this be written
> 
>      rpm -qa name='*yast*'
> 
> ?
> 
> <https://manpages.debian.org/rpm(8)>

Yes, true, but one learns some commands and not others :-)

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#86694

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-05-15 13:55 +0200
Message-ID<46ejdmxc2l.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#86312
On 2026-05-10 19:31, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-05-10 01:38, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Sat, 9 May 2026 22:02:34 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> Laicolasse:~ # rpm -qa | grep -i yast
>>
>> It’s been a few years since I sat in front of an RPM-based system
>> (SuSE), but couldn’t this be written
>>
>>      rpm -qa name='*yast*'
>>
>> ?
>>
>> <https://manpages.debian.org/rpm(8)>
> 
> Yes, true, but one learns some commands and not others :-)
> 

I wanted to use this concoction, had forgotten it, tried to find it 
again, so I asked chatgpt, and it said there is no such thing. Finally I 
located this message, then told chatpgt about the concoction, and it 
replied that it is not universal in all rpm distros.


Q: Found it. It is: rpm -qa name='*yast*'

Yes — that works on some RPM implementations/shell environments because 
name= is treated as a query selector.

Example:

rpm -qa name='*yast*'

Equivalent to searching package names matching the glob pattern.

The more portable/common form is still:

rpm -qa '*yast*'

because name= is not universally documented across all RPM 
versions/distributions.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#86699

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-05-15 17:04 +0000
Message-ID<n6p210Fr8mhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#86694
On Fri, 15 May 2026 13:55:16 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Q: Found it. It is: rpm -qa name='*yast*'
> 
> Yes — that works on some RPM implementations/shell environments because
> name= is treated as a query selector.

fwiw, both forms work on Fedora 44 using "*code*".  Like zypper 'dnf' 
which replace yum is used rather than rpm.

re: Wayland.  The openSUSE install defaulted to X11. It was subtle but 
Klondike in the KPatience package seemed a little off when the cards were 
moved. I logged into a Wayland session and it was smoother. Again, 
subjective and very minor. 

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#87044

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-05-24 07:01 +0000
Message-ID<10uu7or$bfae$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#86694
On Fri, 15 May 2026 13:55:16 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> The more portable/common form is still:
>
> rpm -qa '*yast*'
>
> because name= is not universally documented across all RPM
> versions/distributions.

I find that very surprising. Remember I was referring to the Debian
version of rpm, and RPM packaging is not even a native thing on
Debian-based distros. Are you saying/implying that Debian might have a
more up-to-date version of RPM tooling than some actual RPM-native
distros?

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#87046

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-05-24 09:54 +0200
Message-ID<afnaemxqkq.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#87044
On 2026-05-24 09:01, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 15 May 2026 13:55:16 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> The more portable/common form is still:
>>
>> rpm -qa '*yast*'
>>
>> because name= is not universally documented across all RPM
>> versions/distributions.
> 
> I find that very surprising. Remember I was referring to the Debian
> version of rpm, and RPM packaging is not even a native thing on
> Debian-based distros. Are you saying/implying that Debian might have a
> more up-to-date version of RPM tooling than some actual RPM-native
> distros?

I didn't actually write that, it was ChatGPT, so it is offered as an "as 
is" saying :-)

Leap 15.6 runs RPM version 4.14.3, which is old. Leap 16 runs RPM 
version 4.20.1. Wikipedia says we are at Stable release	6.0.1.

So it is not a matter of age.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87050

FromRichard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-05-24 09:30 +0100
Message-ID<wwvbje5mcq7.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to#87046
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
> I didn't actually write that, it was ChatGPT, so it is offered as an
> "as is" saying :-)

Why do you keep posting ChatGPT junk?

> Leap 15.6 runs RPM version 4.14.3, which is old. Leap 16 runs RPM
> version 4.20.1. Wikipedia says we are at Stable release	6.0.1.
>
> So it is not a matter of age.

I think relying on LLMs functions like a kind of premature senility.

-- 
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#87056

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-05-24 10:46 +0200
Message-ID<pfqaemx8oc.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#87050
On 2026-05-24 10:30, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>> I didn't actually write that, it was ChatGPT, so it is offered as an
>> "as is" saying :-)
> 
> Why do you keep posting ChatGPT junk?

I'll ignore this answer.

> 
>> Leap 15.6 runs RPM version 4.14.3, which is old. Leap 16 runs RPM
>> version 4.20.1. Wikipedia says we are at Stable release	6.0.1.
>>
>> So it is not a matter of age.
> 
> I think relying on LLMs functions like a kind of premature senility.
> 


-- 
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ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87070

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-05-24 17:39 +0000
Message-ID<n7greeF4bnhU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87050
On Sun, 24 May 2026 09:30:08 +0100, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>> I didn't actually write that, it was ChatGPT, so it is offered as an
>> "as is" saying :-)
> 
> Why do you keep posting ChatGPT junk?
> 
>> Leap 15.6 runs RPM version 4.14.3, which is old. Leap 16 runs RPM
>> version 4.20.1. Wikipedia says we are at Stable release	6.0.1.
>>
>> So it is not a matter of age.
> 
> I think relying on LLMs functions like a kind of premature senility.

LLMs don't create knowledge de novo. I prefer researching questions as I 
have always done so I can curate the sources rather than trusting some 
slop a LLM found on reddit. 

LLMs and the supporting massive data centers are the 21st century 
equivalent of trying to build an economy based on taking in each other's 
washing.  

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#87069

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-05-24 17:33 +0000
Message-ID<n7gr30F4bnhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#87046
On Sun, 24 May 2026 09:54:50 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Leap 15.6 runs RPM version 4.14.3, which is old. Leap 16 runs RPM
> version 4.20.1. Wikipedia says we are at Stable release	6.0.1.

Fedora 44 has 6.0.1.  It's to be expected it would have the latest 'redhat 
package manager'. I use it very seldom, preferring dnf5. I presume it's 
also the backend for Discover.

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#87083

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-05-25 01:47 +0000
Message-ID<10v09n2$vpge$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87046
On Sun, 24 May 2026 09:54:50 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I didn't actually write that, it was ChatGPT, so it is offered as an
> "as is" saying :-)

I think all of your postings are now degenerating to this level of
quality. Or lack of it.

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#87104

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-05-25 11:42 +0200
Message-ID<m4idemxo4j.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#87083
On 2026-05-25 03:47, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2026 09:54:50 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> I didn't actually write that, it was ChatGPT, so it is offered as an
>> "as is" saying :-)
> 
> I think all of your postings are now degenerating to this level of
> quality. Or lack of it.

Ow. Personal attacks, now. Doesn't befit you.

-- 
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ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87113

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-05-25 12:57 +0100
Message-ID<10v1df6$1adps$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#87104
On 25/05/2026 10:42, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-05-25 03:47, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 May 2026 09:54:50 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> I didn't actually write that, it was ChatGPT, so it is offered as an
>>> "as is" saying :-)
>>
>> I think all of your postings are now degenerating to this level of
>> quality. Or lack of it.
> 
> Ow. Personal attacks, now. Doesn't befit you.
> 
Its Lawrence.It must be hell to be christened that. Just apply packet 
discard protocol

-- 
“Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.”

H.L. Mencken, A Mencken Chrestomathy

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#87157

FromJohn Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
Date2026-05-26 08:28 -0700
Message-ID<20260526082852.000074f1@gmail.com>
In reply to#87046
On Sun, 24 May 2026 09:54:50 +0200
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> I didn't actually write that, it was ChatGPT, so it is offered as an
> "as is" saying :-)

For the love of $DEITY, *stop doing this.* If you don't know a thing
and can't be bothered to learn, at least keep your mouth shut instead
of flaunting your ignorance.

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#87158

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-05-26 17:43 +0200
Message-ID<elrgemxdf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#87157
On 2026-05-26 17:28, John Ames wrote:
> On Sun, 24 May 2026 09:54:50 +0200
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> I didn't actually write that, it was ChatGPT, so it is offered as an
>> "as is" saying :-)
> 
> For the love of $DEITY, *stop doing this.* If you don't know a thing
> and can't be bothered to learn, at least keep your mouth shut instead
> of flaunting your ignorance.
> 

Ignored.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87163

FromMarc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us>
Date2026-05-26 23:02 +0200
Message-ID<10v51oa$c1g3$1@news1.tnib.de>
In reply to#87158
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>On 2026-05-26 17:28, John Ames wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 May 2026 09:54:50 +0200
>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> I didn't actually write that, it was ChatGPT, so it is offered as an
>>> "as is" saying :-)
>> 
>> For the love of $DEITY, *stop doing this.* If you don't know a thing
>> and can't be bothered to learn, at least keep your mouth shut instead
>> of flaunting your ignorance.
>
>Ignored.

For the love of $DEITY, John is right.

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#87178

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-05-27 07:49 +0200
Message-ID<a8diemxvij.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#87163
On 2026-05-26 23:02, Marc Haber wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-05-26 17:28, John Ames wrote:
>>> On Sun, 24 May 2026 09:54:50 +0200
>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I didn't actually write that, it was ChatGPT, so it is offered as an
>>>> "as is" saying :-)
>>>
>>> For the love of $DEITY, *stop doing this.* If you don't know a thing
>>> and can't be bothered to learn, at least keep your mouth shut instead
>>> of flaunting your ignorance.
>>
>> Ignored.
> 
> For the love of $DEITY, John is right.
> 

Ignored.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#87184

FromRichard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-05-27 08:34 +0100
Message-ID<wwvv7c9fgqr.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>
In reply to#87163
Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> writes:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>On 2026-05-26 17:28, John Ames wrote:
>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> I didn't actually write that, it was ChatGPT, so it is offered as an
>>>> "as is" saying :-)
>>> 
>>> For the love of $DEITY, *stop doing this.* If you don't know a thing
>>> and can't be bothered to learn, at least keep your mouth shut instead
>>> of flaunting your ignorance.
>>
>>Ignored.
>
> For the love of $DEITY, John is right.

Agreed. But apparently Carlos prefers pay attention to random text
generators than humans.

-- 
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#87187

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-05-27 11:03 +0200
Message-ID<8joiemx15u.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#87184
On 2026-05-27 09:34, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> writes:
>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2026-05-26 17:28, John Ames wrote:
>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> I didn't actually write that, it was ChatGPT, so it is offered as an
>>>>> "as is" saying :-)
>>>>
>>>> For the love of $DEITY, *stop doing this.* If you don't know a thing
>>>> and can't be bothered to learn, at least keep your mouth shut instead
>>>> of flaunting your ignorance.
>>>
>>> Ignored.
>>
>> For the love of $DEITY, John is right.
> 
> Agreed. But apparently Carlos prefers pay attention to random text
> generators than humans.

Nope. They are backed by actual documentation that says the same thing. 
I just save time searching for them. Negating the use of modern tools is 
ridiculous and I will not listen to those absurd requests.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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