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| Started by | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| First post | 2025-06-05 10:12 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-06-28 14:10 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 402 — 44 participants |
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What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-05 10:12 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-05 06:44 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Michael Uplawski <michael.uplawski@uplawski.eu> - 2025-06-05 13:12 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-06-05 13:03 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-05 11:11 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-05 14:22 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> - 2025-06-05 17:16 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:54 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-06 14:43 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:31 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-07 02:44 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-05 21:36 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-05 15:51 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-05 14:58 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-05 16:11 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:06 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-09 08:51 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-05 18:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-06 15:37 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John McCue <jmccue@magnetar.jmcunx.com> - 2025-06-05 14:03 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-06-05 16:50 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:30 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-06-06 21:51 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 08:21 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-05 18:11 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 10:46 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 13:23 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-06 14:47 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-06 21:02 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:27 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-07 11:07 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-07 13:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-07 17:17 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-08 00:02 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-08 03:31 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 08:59 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 09:48 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 09:53 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 08:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-09 09:47 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:31 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-09 23:55 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-08 14:47 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-08 13:52 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-14 08:30 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-14 11:01 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-14 10:52 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-14 21:17 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-14 23:35 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 09:52 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-16 18:15 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-16 23:24 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-16 18:28 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-17 01:56 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 08:33 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-17 22:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 16:04 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-18 00:04 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-18 04:28 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-18 16:15 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-18 05:30 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-14 23:30 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-15 09:23 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-15 08:59 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-14 19:38 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 08:07 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-09 17:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-09 19:53 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-09 21:34 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:34 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-12 15:10 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-12 18:12 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 10:00 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:16 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-07 12:54 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> - 2025-06-06 01:58 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-06 00:50 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:47 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:06 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:46 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:05 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:23 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 07:59 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-09 07:20 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 10:01 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 18:20 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-09 08:59 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-05 17:37 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-06-05 12:15 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-06-05 20:44 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:21 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-09 08:56 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 18:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-10 02:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-10 03:25 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-10 18:11 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 03:25 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-06-09 17:58 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:36 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-06 00:14 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> - 2025-06-05 22:05 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-06-06 07:10 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:39 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 08:12 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 20:18 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-06 21:02 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-07 03:23 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 04:42 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:19 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 07:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? xyz@eatspam.invalid (JCJ) - 2025-06-28 14:44 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-29 00:02 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.nospam> - 2025-06-30 10:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 19:29 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:23 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-07 10:57 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 12:28 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 09:38 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 18:13 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-10 02:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-10 10:25 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:26 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 07:45 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 16:55 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-10 15:43 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 09:12 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-11 13:03 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 13:01 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2025-06-11 18:36 +0300
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 17:11 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-12 14:37 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 17:21 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 22:27 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 03:25 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 09:24 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-11 13:04 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 17:29 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-11 17:46 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-12 02:39 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-12 14:51 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 17:22 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 09:13 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-12 14:46 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:56 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 03:43 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-11 07:54 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-12 14:33 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-12 11:27 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 17:20 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-12 18:26 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-11 12:04 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 17:15 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-12 11:16 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 12:34 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:58 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-11 11:57 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-12 00:08 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-06-06 12:57 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 13:26 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-06 14:53 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-06 18:46 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-06-06 18:18 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:16 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 19:37 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:14 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 20:45 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-06-06 08:29 +0300
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Jan van den Broek <balglaas@dds.nl> - 2025-06-06 08:01 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-06 11:33 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Jan van den Broek <balglaas@dds.nl> - 2025-06-07 11:03 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:11 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 07:06 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-06-06 13:44 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-06 18:37 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:20 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 03:10 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 08:02 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:43 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 07:38 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 07:17 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2025-06-10 12:43 +1000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-10 23:42 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-11 03:34 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-11 12:12 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-11 13:51 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-06-11 17:04 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-12 11:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-14 19:48 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-14 08:34 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-14 19:43 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 08:47 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-18 05:20 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-12 00:10 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-12 02:51 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-12 11:03 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 12:12 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@nospam.com.ii> - 2025-06-12 11:31 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-12 08:37 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-12 17:23 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-12 21:49 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-12 16:17 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-13 01:26 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-20 10:37 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-21 07:12 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-23 14:29 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-24 00:13 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-01 14:10 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-02 00:04 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-02 01:13 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-02 01:26 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-02 09:25 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.nospam> - 2025-07-02 11:56 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-02 08:35 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-02 23:27 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.nospam> - 2025-07-03 11:37 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-03 19:11 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 10:32 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-05 19:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 23:05 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-10 00:50 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-10 05:47 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-10 09:35 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.nospam> - 2025-07-11 11:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 23:04 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-02 07:43 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-02 23:21 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-03 08:26 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2025-07-03 12:17 -0500
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 10:41 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-05 10:17 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 11:19 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 16:07 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 16:23 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 16:25 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 13:35 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 21:59 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 14:51 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-07 02:46 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-05 22:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 09:09 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-06 10:36 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 14:17 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-06 10:52 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-11 19:03 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-11 21:03 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-11 21:33 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-12 14:30 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 04:50 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-12 23:29 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 07:01 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-13 16:45 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 19:22 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-14 08:34 +1000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 03:20 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-14 09:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-07-14 18:46 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 19:27 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-14 09:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 19:14 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-14 11:13 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-14 17:07 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 19:44 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-14 13:24 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-15 18:21 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-13 07:32 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-13 12:47 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-07-13 17:00 +0000
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Re: DVD-Video DRM not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-14 14:17 +1000
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Re: DVD-Video DRM Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-07-14 17:48 +1000
Re: DVD-Video DRM rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 18:55 +0000
Re: DVD-Video DRM The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-14 14:56 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-13 16:45 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-13 10:03 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-14 00:14 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-14 03:24 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-14 11:07 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 12:15 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2025-07-13 12:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 19:36 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 21:49 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-07-14 09:03 +1000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-13 16:45 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-13 19:40 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-12 10:54 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-07-12 08:46 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-07 02:52 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-07 09:07 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-07 22:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-07 09:45 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-07 18:26 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-07 10:42 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-07 20:34 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-07 18:56 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-05 19:12 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 09:14 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 12:56 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-07 02:47 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-05 18:37 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 13:44 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-05 22:44 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 16:38 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-06 04:46 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-06 06:05 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 09:09 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 23:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 23:03 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 21:34 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 09:45 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-06 06:07 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-06 09:14 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-06 21:35 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-07-28 21:26 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-06 10:41 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-02 09:31 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-03 13:04 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-04 00:48 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-04 08:21 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-04 23:29 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 10:05 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 22:57 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-07-30 22:15 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-30 23:44 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 23:21 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-07 10:20 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2025-07-07 12:53 -0500
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-09 22:58 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-07-30 22:23 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-06-21 10:35 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-21 21:43 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-23 11:49 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-14 19:57 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 08:43 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-16 23:26 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 21:19 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-05 09:42 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-05 21:37 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-05 14:53 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-06 06:08 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-12 21:45 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-06-06 17:58 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-06 18:48 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-06 17:08 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-06 10:47 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 01:09 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 09:03 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:43 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-06 18:28 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2025-06-06 18:50 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 20:20 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-07 03:30 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 01:06 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 08:03 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-06-09 02:49 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-09 10:02 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:57 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 09:02 -0700
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 22:48 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 07:41 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-10 10:17 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 11:28 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-10 13:01 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-10 18:13 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-06-10 12:39 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 11:57 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 12:04 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 13:18 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-10 12:59 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-10 18:04 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-11 00:15 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-11 12:08 +0000
OT: ot crap - was: What Window Manager/Desktop....... Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-06-11 17:14 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-11 00:14 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-13 01:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-13 01:26 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-13 03:27 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-13 20:50 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-13 23:34 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-11 00:13 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-10 17:59 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 21:13 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-07-04 21:12 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-04 23:12 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-07-05 18:35 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-06-10 14:34 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-10 18:48 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-09 07:15 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Chris Narkiewicz <hello@ezaquarii.com> - 2025-06-06 19:30 +0100
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 02:17 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-07 10:54 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-06-07 12:31 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-06-07 18:49 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 23:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-06-07 16:00 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-06-09 01:03 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-06-06 19:18 +0000
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-06-06 22:35 +0200
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2025-06-09 10:44 -0400
Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? xyz@eatspam.invalid (JCJ) - 2025-06-28 14:10 +0000
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-06-06 00:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <F1SdncBow6jR9t_1nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #68375 |
Everybody wants something different. Personally, if it can be had, I still use LXDE. It's just Good Enough without being a ridiculous drag on things. XFCE is the next best FOR ME. Others want more like the Winders experience, all the bells & whistles and 'integration'. There's no one-size-fits-all desktop. The great thing about Linux is that you can CHOOSE.
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| From | Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> |
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| Date | 2025-06-05 22:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <101tsvg$en0o$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #68407 |
c186282 wrote: > Everybody wants something different. > > Personally, if it can be had, I still use LXDE. > It's just Good Enough without being a ridiculous > drag on things. XFCE is the next best FOR ME. > > Others want more like the Winders experience, all > the bells & whistles and 'integration'. > > There's no one-size-fits-all desktop. The great > thing about Linux is that you can CHOOSE. This thread has now been running for several days, and no one has preferred Gnome. Yet several well-known distributions make Gnome their default. Why? -- *********** To reply by e-mail, make w single in address **************
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2025-06-06 07:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <maff2sFmb18U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68411 |
Ian wrote: > This thread has now been running for several days, and no one has > preferred Gnome. Yet several well-known distributions make Gnome their > default. Why? I have used Gnome more than other window managers due to generally being a redhat/fedora/centos user, but it's rare for me to do anything on my linux boxes that couldn't be done within an SSH session, or web browser. Also a bit of (probably irrelevant now) licencing dislike with KDE/Qt.
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-06 11:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1045krt.21o1.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #68411 |
On 2025-06-06, Ian <gay@sfuu.ca> wrote: > c186282 wrote: > >> Everybody wants something different. >> >> Personally, if it can be had, I still use LXDE. >> It's just Good Enough without being a ridiculous >> drag on things. XFCE is the next best FOR ME. >> >> Others want more like the Winders experience, all >> the bells & whistles and 'integration'. >> >> There's no one-size-fits-all desktop. The great >> thing about Linux is that you can CHOOSE. > > This thread has now been running for several days, and no one has > preferred Gnome. Yet several well-known distributions make Gnome their > default. Why? I think the distros want to push their vision moreso than doing what the highly technical Linux users want. I was a GNOME user back in the GNOME 1 days, but lost interest a bit with GNOME 2 and totally with GNOME 3.
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-06 08:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <20250606081240.00005d5a@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #68418 |
On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 11:39:41 -0000 (UTC) Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: > I was a GNOME user back in the GNOME 1 days, but lost interest a bit > with GNOME 2 and totally with GNOME 3. I was pretty comfortable with GNOME 2 back when I first made the jump from XP; GNOME 3 was an absolute slap in the face, and after a couple days of trying to make it less awful I ragequit and never looked back. If there's one thing I have absolutely no patience for, it's card- carrying Design Divas who think I exist to be their audience.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-06 20:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <101veu2$2ebdf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68433 |
On 06/06/2025 16:12, John Ames wrote: > If there's one thing I have absolutely no patience for, it's card- > carrying Design Divas who think I exist to be their audience. Amen to that. -- "A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight and understanding". Marshall McLuhan
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-06 21:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <oHI0Q.57891$00L5.15963@fx41.iad> |
| In reply to | #68433 |
On 2025-06-06, John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 11:39:41 -0000 (UTC) > Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> I was a GNOME user back in the GNOME 1 days, but lost interest a bit >> with GNOME 2 and totally with GNOME 3. > > I was pretty comfortable with GNOME 2 back when I first made the jump > from XP; GNOME 3 was an absolute slap in the face, and after a couple > days of trying to make it less awful I ragequit and never looked back. I don't do a lot of GUI programming, but GNOME was the only Linux graphical system I found that supported C programming. All others demand C++, and I'm not about to re-write all my stuff in a language I don't like. If I was going to switch languages, I'd probably go to Python. But I probably won't live that long. > If there's one thing I have absolutely no patience for, it's card- > carrying Design Divas who think I exist to be their audience. Amen, brother. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-07 03:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mahpmbF4hn0U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68463 |
On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 21:02:12 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > I don't do a lot of GUI programming, but GNOME was the only Linux > graphical system I found that supported C programming. All others > demand C++, and I'm not about to re-write all my stuff in a language I > don't like. If I was going to switch languages, I'd probably go to > Python. But I probably won't live that long. I was never too crazy about the gtk_stupidly_long_snake_case_function() style. Yeah, I know, descriptive function names but I probably know I'm using Gtk and not WxWidgets. At least with Motif/X XtAddCallback() and XmListDeleteAllItems() X, Xt, and Xm gave you an idea of in which of the 6 books to look for the documentation. I never used Qt with c++. Trolltech's incomprehensible licensing made it a no go for commercial code. I do use PySide6 in Python which follows the C+ + usage fairly closely. PySide6 is the official Python package and replaced PyQt, again for license reasons, Riverbank Computing in this case.
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-07 04:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1047gpo.3h9.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #68481 |
On 2025-06-07, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 21:02:12 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> I don't do a lot of GUI programming, but GNOME was the only Linux >> graphical system I found that supported C programming. All others >> demand C++, and I'm not about to re-write all my stuff in a language I >> don't like. If I was going to switch languages, I'd probably go to >> Python. But I probably won't live that long. > > I was never too crazy about the gtk_stupidly_long_snake_case_function() > style. Yeah, I know, descriptive function names but I probably know I'm > using Gtk and not WxWidgets. At least with Motif/X XtAddCallback() and > XmListDeleteAllItems() X, Xt, and Xm gave you an idea of in which of the 6 > books to look for the documentation. > > I never used Qt with c++. Trolltech's incomprehensible licensing made it a > no go for commercial code. I do use PySide6 in Python which follows the C+ > + usage fairly closely. PySide6 is the official Python package and > replaced PyQt, again for license reasons, Riverbank Computing in this > case. > I played around a little with XForms, which was a C based library. Not as extensive as GTK, but good enough for simple situations. FLTK was based on Forms as well, and was C++ based.
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-09 03:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1025jrc$alt7$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #68463 |
On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 21:02:12 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > I don't do a lot of GUI programming, but GNOME was the only Linux > graphical system I found that supported C programming. All others > demand C++, and I'm not about to re-write all my stuff in a language I > don't like. Yes, it’s interesting that GTK defined an object model that would work in C, which meant it was not tied to any particular programming language. > If I was going to switch languages, I'd probably go to > Python. I have used GTK for a few projects in Python. Might try a Python Qt binding one of these days ... In any case, this is all a big improvement on Tcl/Tk, which is what I used for my first Linux GUI project. I soon reworked it to use Python+GTK, and never used Tcl/Tk for anything else after that.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-09 07:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <manfl7F46uoU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68567 |
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 03:19:08 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In any case, this is all a big improvement on Tcl/Tk, which is what I > used for my first Linux GUI project. I soon reworked it to use > Python+GTK, and never used Tcl/Tk for anything else after that. I left Tkinter in the dust a long time ago, standard GUI or not.
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| From | xyz@eatspam.invalid (JCJ) |
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| Date | 2025-06-28 14:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <685fffaa.3032100625@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #68433 |
John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote: >On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 11:39:41 -0000 (UTC) >Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> I was a GNOME user back in the GNOME 1 days, but lost interest a bit >> with GNOME 2 and totally with GNOME 3. > >I was pretty comfortable with GNOME 2 back when I first made the jump >from XP; GNOME 3 was an absolute slap in the face, and after a couple >days of trying to make it less awful I ragequit and never looked back. >If there's one thing I have absolutely no patience for, it's card- >carrying Design Divas who think I exist to be their audience. +100
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-06-29 00:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <103pvra$14vi6$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #69173 |
On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 14:44:10 GMT, JCJ wrote: > John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote: > >> If there's one thing I have absolutely no patience for, it's card- >> carrying Design Divas who think I exist to be their audience. > > +100 People make such a big deal about leaving GNOME, don’t they? As though it’s so hard to do. Like leaving an abusive partner, or something.
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| From | Borax Man <boraxman@geidiprime.nospam> |
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| Date | 2025-06-30 10:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1064qc7.gv1.boraxman@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #69178 |
On 2025-06-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 14:44:10 GMT, JCJ wrote: > >> John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> If there's one thing I have absolutely no patience for, it's card- >>> carrying Design Divas who think I exist to be their audience. >> >> +100 > > People make such a big deal about leaving GNOME, don’t they? As though > it’s so hard to do. Like leaving an abusive partner, or something. You have to keep walking away from GNOME. Client side decorations, GNOME dependencies, they're always a step away.
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2025-06-06 19:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6843417c$0$8575$426a34cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #68418 |
Le 06-06-2025, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> a écrit : > > I think the distros want to push their vision moreso than doing what the > highly technical Linux users want. I don't believe that. Maybe for Mint it's the case, but the Mint look and feel for every Window Manager they provide is a good reason people choose it, so it works both ways. For the other distros I saw, I don't believe that. People want something that works out of the box, so the distros provide what people want. But they don't stop you to change the default. There is only one default which is hard to change is the init system. But except for that, they push nothing. And some distro don't even make choices outside of the init system. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-07 02:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn10478lo.8p2.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #68455 |
On 2025-06-06, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote: > Le 06-06-2025, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> a écrit : >> >> I think the distros want to push their vision moreso than doing what the >> highly technical Linux users want. > > I don't believe that. Maybe for Mint it's the case, but the Mint look > and feel for every Window Manager they provide is a good reason people > choose it, so it works both ways. > > For the other distros I saw, I don't believe that. People want something > that works out of the box, so the distros provide what people want. But > they don't stop you to change the default. There is only one default > which is hard to change is the init system. But except for that, they > push nothing. And some distro don't even make choices outside of the > init system. > How do you explain GNOME 3 then? I do think, to some degrees, people creating distros do have a vision of how things should work. They choose defaults for a reason. Linux Mints themeing is just pragmatic.
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2025-06-07 10:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <68441b11$0$11457$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #68476 |
Le 07-06-2025, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> a écrit : > On 2025-06-06, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote: >> Le 06-06-2025, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> a écrit : >>> >>> I think the distros want to push their vision moreso than doing what the >>> highly technical Linux users want. >> >> I don't believe that. Maybe for Mint it's the case, but the Mint look >> and feel for every Window Manager they provide is a good reason people >> choose it, so it works both ways. >> >> For the other distros I saw, I don't believe that. People want something >> that works out of the box, so the distros provide what people want. But >> they don't stop you to change the default. There is only one default >> which is hard to change is the init system. But except for that, they >> push nothing. And some distro don't even make choices outside of the >> init system. > > How do you explain GNOME 3 then? I do think, to some degrees, people > creating distros do have a vision of how things should work. They > choose defaults for a reason. Of course they choose default for a reason. They are the one who develop it, the one who test it and the one who answer questions about it. So they have to chose the way that suit them the best. That doesn't mean they want to impose their vision. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-07 12:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1048c27.2v4.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| In reply to | #68495 |
On 2025-06-07, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote: > Le 07-06-2025, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> a écrit : >> On 2025-06-06, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote: >>> Le 06-06-2025, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> a écrit : >>>> >>>> I think the distros want to push their vision moreso than doing what the >>>> highly technical Linux users want. >>> >>> I don't believe that. Maybe for Mint it's the case, but the Mint look >>> and feel for every Window Manager they provide is a good reason people >>> choose it, so it works both ways. >>> >>> For the other distros I saw, I don't believe that. People want something >>> that works out of the box, so the distros provide what people want. But >>> they don't stop you to change the default. There is only one default >>> which is hard to change is the init system. But except for that, they >>> push nothing. And some distro don't even make choices outside of the >>> init system. >> >> How do you explain GNOME 3 then? I do think, to some degrees, people >> creating distros do have a vision of how things should work. They >> choose defaults for a reason. > > Of course they choose default for a reason. They are the one who develop > it, the one who test it and the one who answer questions about it. So > they have to chose the way that suit them the best. That doesn't mean > they want to impose their vision. > The GNOME developers took features out because they thought it would confuse users. They had shown a disregard for user input and stuck by what they thought was best. You can look up some of the controversy about it, at the time of release.
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-09 09:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <20250609093835.0000784c@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #68476 |
On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 02:23:53 -0000 (UTC) Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote: > How do you explain GNOME 3 then? GNOME Team was actually completely forthcoming about this, at the time: they, like MS, had bought entirely into the tech-press narrative of the Glorious Tablet Future, where desktops and laptops would vanish in a Cloud of pixie dust and the mouse would be obsolete as everyone used touchscreens for everything and shut up "gorilla arm" totally isn't a thing so there (remember that? Remember how they were also adamant that voice control and dictation would obsolete the keyboard for about 15 minutes, before some non-idiot pointed out that whole offices full of people yakking at their computer all day would result in an epidemic of workplace shootings?) So all of the design decisions behind GNOME 3, just as with Windows 8, were oriented towards facilitating this magical transition that would doubtless be happening Real Soon Now because Everybody* agreed that it would - and then when it mysteriously *didn't,* they were left looking like morons, because they'd uncritically bought into a media narrative that had no real basis to begin with. * (Where "Everybody" meant "everybody who's Anybody, because if you ain't with Everybody, you ain't nobody!") But in the *meantime,* they'd managed to piss off hordes of *nix users, drive a bunch of people to jump ship to XFCE or LXDE, and cause a fork of their own product, because they never stopped to consider that *nix users, unlike Windows users, aren't stuck with whatever nonsense gets handed down from on high by the Design Divas,* and had settled on GNOME 'cause they liked what GNOME *was,* not what the Divas felt it *should* be. There followed much agitated sputtering from GNOME Team, who insisted that things were Fine, Actually because they'd put everything through extensive user testing, to which one might reasonably point out that *A.* so did Coca-Cola, and *B.* the set of people one gets when enlisting test users for radical design revisions tends to be the set of people who already *want* radical design revisions. * (And even over in Windows territory, it's noteworthy that Win8 was what turned alternative shells from a weird niche thing to a common- place thing-you-find-on-the-office-PC extension.) And at the end of the day, despite all the sputtering and post-backlash justification: GNOME Flashback is now a thing, it looks suspiciously like GNOME 2, and its webpage includes a sputtering little disclaimer about how no, this totally *isn't* anything like MATE, so *there.* Tee hee hee!
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-09 18:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <maomhnFa4fmU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #68593 |
On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 09:38:35 -0700, John Ames wrote: > GNOME Team was actually completely forthcoming about this, at the time: > they, like MS, had bought entirely into the tech-press narrative of the > Glorious Tablet Future, where desktops and laptops would vanish in a > Cloud of pixie dust and the mouse would be obsolete as everyone used > touchscreens for everything and shut up "gorilla arm" totally isn't a > thing so there (remember that? Remember how they were also adamant that > voice control and dictation would obsolete the keyboard for about 15 > minutes, before some non-idiot pointed out that whole offices full of > people yakking at their computer all day would result in an epidemic of > workplace shootings?) A friend was a quadriplegic but had enough arm control that he could type using splints that took regular pencils. He went through a lot of pencils as the erasers wore down. I asked why he didn't use speech to text and he mentioned the possibility of getting shot. Microsoft has a text to speech API that I played around with but it never got any traction. Same deal, computers chattering away in a dispatch center might lead to mayhem. I recently bought an Amazfit Active 2 fitness device. By default it would tell you when you started an activity, when you went a mile, and give a summary when you finished. First project was figuring out how to shut it up. I might talk to the cat but I'll be damned if I'll talk to Alexa or anything similar.
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