Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET

From	Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET
Date	2025-04-07 03:09 +0000
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c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
> On 4/5/25 9:08 PM, Rich wrote:
>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>>    As for the govt drones (half of which seem to be 'probationary' 
>>>    employees yet getting all the perks)
>> 
>> Do note that in the US federal govt, the meaning of a "probationary 
>> employee" is very different from the normal private sector usage (it 
>> is unfortunate the statue writers chose 'probationary' for their 
>> word, but here we are).
> 
>   Well ... HERE WE ARE .......
> 
>   Politics is about *appearances* more than any realities.
> 
>   If I hear "probationary" I think some Gen-Z/A2 dink kinda part-time 
>   drones who don't deserve any consideration.

Yes, and that's probably what the rest of the country thinks, since 
unless they've been a govt. employee at some point, they would never 
have had a chance to learn the "government" meaning.  As I said, it is 
unfortunate the statute writers chose the word "probationary", but they 
did, so it is the word used. 

>> It simply means they have been on the job for less than one year, 
>> and what is different for 'probationary' employess is they don't 
>> have all of the usual protections from arbitrary and capricious 
>> firings as those who have been on the job for more than one year.  
>> The purpose is to give the govt a one year window to see if the 
>> employee actually can do the job, and allow an easier time of laying 
>> them off if it turns out they can't do the job.
> 
>   Um, WHY so many <1yr people ??? Sounds like a Joe
>   initiative to reinforce the bureaucracy/deep-state.

Most realistic reason, given the number of people employed by the fed: 
there is a constant churn of old workers retiring (or dying) off and 
others who quit to go elsewhere with the accompanyng new hires being 
hired to replace those that have left.  Just that, given size size of 
the fed, without any "joe initiatives" would produce a quite large 
count of folks in "probationary" status, more than enough for the 
numbers being quoted in the press.  Another quirk of the govt.  
"probationary" status is if one changes jobs within the govt, one 
becomes "probationary" for the first year of the new job.  So a portion 
of the "probationary" workers have more than a year total govt 
experience, but are "probationary" because they switched jobs within 
the fed.

>   So, FIRE them all !

And with that, the workers that make sure your prescription drugs won't 
accidentally poison you, or those that make sure your steak does not 
include a deadly does of salmonella, or those that make sure you get 
your social security check (if one is drawing one), or those who make 
sure one's medicare payments go through for medical services (for those 
old enough to be forced to be on medicare), or the forest service 
workers rescuing hikers who get themselves hopelessly lost in the 
woods, or a whole host of other services that many have no idea is 
being provided by the federal workforce.

>>>    well, big/deep state is a POWER BASE and TAPPABLE
>>>    CASH FLOW for some of the people who are REALLY in
>>>    charge, so they DO freak about that kind of stuff.
>> 
>> The federal employees never were the "deep state".
> 
>   Oh, please !!!
> 
>   If not 'part', then 'pawns'.

One could argue 'pawns' convincingly.  And as well, no 'pawn' (on a 
chessboard or in the fed) is "calling the shots" either.  The "deep 
state" would be the ones "calling the shots" rather than the lowly 
pieces on the board that are being moved about by the "shot caller".

Right now, the 'pawns' are being fired, while the 'chess players' 
remain around.  That's hardly clearing the "deep state", to leave 
around the ones that were calling the shots.

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                Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-06 00:32 -0400
                Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-04-07 03:09 +0000
                Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-06 23:47 -0400
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                Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-04-07 15:53 +0000
                Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-07 12:02 +0100
                Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-07 07:13 -0400
                Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-07 12:26 +0100
                Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-07 07:42 -0400
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                Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-05 20:05 +0000
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                Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-05 23:34 -0400
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                Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-04-07 03:16 +0000
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