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Re: Bluefish HTML Editor

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux.ubuntu
Subject Re: Bluefish HTML Editor
Date 2024-09-20 22:30 -0400
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On Fri, 9/20/2024 5:19 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-09-20 22:59, Paul wrote:
>> On Fri, 9/20/2024 7:59 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> If Linux had existed we would never have had DOS
>>>
>>> Linux on an 8088 and 64k of RAM?   8)
>>>
>>> I guess the 68000 was also an option...
>>>
>>
>> GCC came out in 1987. Linux in 1991. There may be
>> something to the timing there. Maybe it wouldn't have
>> been as easy, to do it earlier.
>>
>> The 8088 was 1979.
>> The 68000 was 1979.
> 
> The equivalent to the 68000 was the 8086. Or, the equivalent to the 8088 was the 68008.

At the time, people knew better than to buy the 8088 or the 68008.

But good things come from following the theme. In this article,
is a description of Torvalds early equipment. And partially
why he was inclined to work on Linux. It was the poor quality
of the stuff that was coming on the machines he was buying :-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_QL          # A thing that used the 68008

  "Linux

   Linus Torvalds has attributed his eventually developing the Linux kernel,
   likewise having pre-emptive multitasking, in part to having owned a Sinclair QL
   in the 1980s.

   Because of the lack of support, particularly in his native Finland, Torvalds
   became used to writing his own software rather than relying on programs written
   by others.[28] In part, his frustration with Minix, on the Sinclair,[29] led,
   years later, to his purchase of a more standard IBM PC compatible on which he
   would develop Linux.

   In 'Just for Fun', Torvalds wrote, "Back in 1987, one of the selling points of
   the QL was that it looked cool", because it was "entirely matte black, with a
   black keyboard" and was "fairly angular". He also wrote he bought a floppy controller
   so he could stop using microdrives, but the floppy controller driver was bad,
   so he wrote his own. Bugs in the operating system, or discrepancies with the
   documentation, that made his software not work properly, got him interested in
   operating systems.

   "Like any good computer purist raised on a 68008 chip," Torvalds "despised PCs",
   but decided in autumn 1990 to purchase a 386 custom-made IBM PC compatible,
   which he did in January 1991.
  "

I think you can see there, how that over-developed the muscles in his middle finger.

   Paul

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