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| From | Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache |
| Date | 2024-07-05 19:52 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <v69its$3dons$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (1 earlier) <p58elkxpuf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <slrnv89i5s.kr5.spamtrap42@one.localnet> <v63k03$26k9p$1@dont-email.me> <slrnv8anji.4een.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <lem9mmFbns7U1@mid.individual.net> |
On Thu, 04 Jul 2024 02:46:14 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2024-07-03 16:30, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote at 13:33 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>> On Wed, 03 Jul 2024 03:42:52 +0000, Robert Riches wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-07-02, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-07-02 06:19, Robert Riches wrote:
>>>>>> Is there any practical way to completely disable Emacs' eln-cache
>>>>>> while using Devuan Daedalus binary packages, versions in the
>>>>>> 1.28.2 neighborhood? Even better would be to entirely disable
>>>>>> native compilation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The cached files cause noise in Tripwire output and make messes
>>>>>> in directories Emacs should not be leaving messes in. Recently,
>>>>>> I saw .el files being left in /tmp.
>>>>>
>>>>> emacs has all the right to leave any file it wishes in /tmp.
>>>>
>>>> Not on _MY_ machine, it doesn't. Long-standing tradition says it
>>>> is a bug for a program to fail to clean up after itself in /tmp.
>>>
>>> Longer standing Unix tradition has a periodically-scheduled job
>>> (often known as "skulker" or "tmpwatch") that cleans out the various
>>> tmp directories (/tmp, /var/tmp, etc) of old, discarded temporary
>>> files.
>>
>>
>> Wait, really? I've been storing random files in /var/tmp..
>
> Distributions have various policies and implementations of that.
True dat. The requirements of the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard
(https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/index.html) seem to
have been sidelined by many distros and developers. But, AFAICT, they
still are the recommended standards.
For /var/tmp, the FHS says:
5.15. /var/tmp : Temporary files preserved between system reboots
5.15.1. Purpose
The /var/tmp directory is made available for programs that require
temporary files or directories that are preserved between system
reboots. Therefore, data stored in /var/tmp is more persistent than
data in /tmp.
Files and directories located in /var/tmp must not be deleted when
the system is booted. Although data stored in /var/tmp is typically
deleted in a site-specific manner, it is recommended that deletions
occur at a less frequent interval than /tmp
As for /tmp, the FHS says:
3.18. /tmp : Temporary files
3.18.1. Purpose
The /tmp directory must be made available for programs that require
temporary files.
Programs must not assume that any files or directories in /tmp are
preserved between invocations of the program.
Rationale
IEEE standard POSIX.1-2008 lists requirements similar to the above
section.
Although data stored in /tmp may be deleted in a site-specific
manner, it is recommended that files and directories located in
/tmp be deleted whenever the system is booted.
FHS added this recommendation on the basis of historical precedent
and common practice, but did not make it a requirement because system
administration is not within the scope of this standard.
--
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills We Trust"
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any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-07-02 04:19 +0000
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-02 23:31 +0200
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-07-03 03:42 +0000
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Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-03 23:43 +0000
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Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-04 08:36 +0100
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There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-07-06 22:58 +0000
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Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-09 03:27 +0000
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Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-06 12:56 +0200
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 01:33 +0000
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-07 04:10 +0200
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-07-07 02:43 +0000
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 03:43 +0000
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache marrgol <marrgol@address.invalid> - 2024-07-07 12:17 +0200
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 22:09 +0000
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache marrgol <marrgol@address.invalid> - 2024-07-08 01:59 +0200
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-12 21:12 +0200
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-07-12 19:26 +0000
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-12 23:10 +0200
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2024-07-13 19:14 -0400
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-14 02:21 +0000
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-07-06 14:10 +0100
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-06 16:34 +0200
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-07-06 16:20 +0100
Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-06 07:19 +0000
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