Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache

From	Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache
Date	2024-07-04 03:29 +0000
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On 2024-07-03, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 03/07/2024 04:42, Robert Riches wrote:
>> On 2024-07-02, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-02 06:19, Robert Riches wrote:
>>>> Is there any practical way to completely disable Emacs' eln-cache
>>>> while using Devuan Daedalus binary packages, versions in the
>>>> 1.28.2 neighborhood?  Even better would be to entirely disable
>>>> native compilation.
>>>>
>>>> The cached files cause noise in Tripwire output and make messes
>>>> in directories Emacs should not be leaving messes in.  Recently,
>>>> I saw .el files being left in /tmp.
>>>
>>> emacs has all the right to leave any file it wishes in /tmp.
>> 
>> Not on _MY_ machine, it doesn't.  Long-standing tradition says it
>> is a bug for a program to fail to clean up after itself in /tmp.
>> 
> Tell that to systemd...:-)

systemd?  Not on this machine!!!!!

A test VM installation of the first Mageia release with systemd
appeared to install okay.  However, on first boot, the boot
process got hung up, waited several minutes, reported some
timeouts, and came up with a severely crippled system.  IIRC,
not all of the RAIDs were composed, and not all of the
filesystems were mounted.  The tools to analyze the binary
registry^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hjournal weren't installed.

Determined to be one of the last people on the planet to use an
init system other than systemd, I switched to Slackware, then to
Debian, and now to Devuan (Beowulf, Chimaera, and now Daedalus).
If it becomes impractical to use Linux without systemd, one of
the BSDs will have to do.

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-07-02 04:19 +0000
  Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-02 23:31 +0200
    Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-07-03 03:42 +0000
      Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-03 10:35 +0100
        Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-03 12:42 +0200
        Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-03 23:43 +0000
        Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-07-04 03:29 +0000
          Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-07-03 22:20 -0700
            Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-07-05 03:36 +0000
              Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-07-05 09:33 -0700
          Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-04 06:52 +0000
            Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-04 08:36 +0100
              Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-04 23:46 +0000
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-07-05 03:37 +0000
      Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-07-03 13:33 +0000
        Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-03 14:30 +0000
          Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-04 02:46 +0200
            Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-07-05 19:52 +0000
              Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Jack Strangio  <jackstrangio@yahoo.com> - 2024-07-06 05:22 +0000
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-06 07:20 +0000
                There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-07-06 22:58 +0000
                Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 01:31 +0000
                Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-07-07 03:25 +0000
                Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 03:59 +0000
                Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-07-07 04:03 +0000
                Re: There he goes again Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-07 09:16 +0100
                Re: There he goes again (was: Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 22:00 +0000
                Re: There he goes again "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-07-08 14:46 -0400
                Re: There he goes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-08 23:33 +0000
                Re: There he goes again vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-07-08 02:10 +0000
                Re: There he goes again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-08 02:54 +0200
                Re: There he goes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-08 23:35 +0000
                Re: There he goes again candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-09 02:10 +0000
                Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-09 03:27 +0000
                Re: There he goes again candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-10 13:40 +0000
                Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-10 18:57 +0000
                Re: There he goes again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-10 23:44 +0200
                Re: There he goes again candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-13 16:00 +0000
                Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-13 18:36 +0000
                Re: There he goes again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-13 22:34 +0200
                Re: There he goes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-14 01:39 +0000
                Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-14 04:28 +0000
                Re: There he goes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-14 05:40 +0000
                Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-14 07:30 +0000
                Re: There he goes again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-07-14 16:46 +0000
                Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-14 20:23 +0000
                Re: There he goes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-15 01:22 +0000
                Re: There he goes again Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-07-14 16:30 -0700
                Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-15 05:19 +0000
                Re: There he goes again "26yh.0712" <26yh.0713@e6t5y.net> - 2024-07-15 21:10 -0400
                Re: There he goes again D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-16 11:18 +0200
                Re: There he goes again not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-07-17 08:40 +1000
                Re: There he goes again "26yh.0712" <26yh.0713@e6t5y.net> - 2024-07-17 02:08 -0400
                Re: There he goes again Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-07-15 16:43 +0000
                Re: There he goes again candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-14 16:20 +0000
                Re: There he goes again rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-14 20:22 +0000
                Re: There he goes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-15 01:21 +0000
                Re: There he goes again candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-15 16:30 +0000
                Re: There he goes again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-15 22:05 +0000
                Re: There he goes again The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-14 08:49 +0100
                Re: There he goes again candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-14 16:20 +0000
                Re: There he goes again "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-09 12:57 +0200
                Re: There he goes again "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-07-09 11:12 -0400
                Re: There he goes again "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-12 21:09 +0200
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-06 12:56 +0200
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 01:33 +0000
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-07 04:10 +0200
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-07-07 02:43 +0000
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 03:43 +0000
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache marrgol <marrgol@address.invalid> - 2024-07-07 12:17 +0200
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-07 22:09 +0000
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache marrgol <marrgol@address.invalid> - 2024-07-08 01:59 +0200
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-12 21:12 +0200
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-07-12 19:26 +0000
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-12 23:10 +0200
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2024-07-13 19:14 -0400
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-14 02:21 +0000
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-07-06 14:10 +0100
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-07-06 16:34 +0200
                Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-07-06 16:20 +0100
              Re: any way to completely disable Emacs eln-cache Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-06 07:19 +0000

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