Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE
Date	2025-08-21 13:21 +0200
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On 2025-08-20 07:13, c186282 wrote:
> On 8/19/25 7:15 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-08-19 05:32, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:00:30 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Slaves were taken by many means sometimes betrayed by relatives
>>>> who wanted to get people with a claim to power out of the way. 
>>>> Sometimes
>>>> captured in Tribal wars or taken in the conquest of villages. Then and
>>>> now there are still the Arabian slavers who sold across the sea and
>>>> North to the Arabian overlords.
>>>
>>> Then there was the slave market in Dublin. I have no doubt some of the
>>> product consisted of inconvenient people the Irish wanted to get rid of.
>>>
>>> One thing I find interesting is the Cherokee used slaves that they had
>>> captured from neighboring tribes. After the Europeans arrived they sound
>>> it preferable to purchase African slaves and later took them with 
>>> them on
>>> the Trail of Tears to Oklahoma. They're still squabbling about the 
>>> status
>>> of the descendants.
>>>
>>> The related question is why, with a continent full of potential slaves,
>>> did the colonists choose to import Africans.
>>
>> In the Spanish land, they did because it was the law, which protected 
>> the natives somewhat. Also I read they did not work well. Also because 
>> many got ill and died, so not enough natives.
>>
>> In any case, there were a lot of marriages between the Spaniards and 
>> the natives.
> 
>    Sex slaves have always been popular.
> 
>    Find the "Code Of Ur-Nammu" ... 5000+ year old
>    laws writ on tablets. Plenty of stuff about
>    slaves ... and it wasn't so great.
> 
>    Ah :
> 
>    https://www.worldhistory.org/Code_of_Ur-Nammu/
> 
>    I can only fault Spain to a certain extent.
>    Their view of power/conquest really wasn't
>    THAT much different from the S.American
>    cultures. It was the tech/organization that
>    let them become Top Dog ... not anything
>    ethically/morally/intellectually inferior
>    or superior. The locals could have all
>    kicked Spanish ass - but the native pols
>    all saw them as useful allies against
>    their own local enemies/rivals.

The Sad Night. Hernan Cortés suffered a big killing by the Mexicas in 
Tenochtitlán. Then the Spaniards came back with vengeance because they 
allied with other local tribes who hated the Mexicas.

> 
>    The smallpox thing ... accident.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-16 11:14 +0100
  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-17 04:32 +0000
    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-16 22:45 -0700
      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 10:10 +0100
        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-18 00:53 -0400
          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-18 10:56 +0100
            Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 00:53 +0000
              Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-18 18:00 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 03:32 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-18 21:10 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-19 09:29 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 18:58 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:13 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 13:15 +0200
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-19 19:02 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-19 21:18 +0200
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-19 14:21 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 04:28 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-20 10:17 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-20 20:21 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-21 10:48 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-21 20:21 +0000
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                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-26 13:11 +0100
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 20:32 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-08-26 09:36 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 20:45 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 20:26 +0000
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-20 01:13 -0400
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                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-21 04:01 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-21 13:21 +0200
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