Re: COBOL and tricks

From	Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: COBOL and tricks
Date	2022-10-30 03:35 +0000
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On 2022-10-29, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>> On 8/2/2022 12:54 AM, 25B.Z959 wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>         [snip...]          [snip...]          [snip...]
>> 
>>>   In *theory*, digital is "forever" ... but format drift
>>>   and the hardware base complicates the picture, so to speak.
>>>   It's also an intangible media, something that could disappear,
>>>   whereas film/paper will persist and persist.
>> 
>> Georges Méliès, who made the "A Trip to the Moon" movie around the turn 
>> of the 19th to 20th century, had a problem.  The copyright law did *not* 
>> cover movie film, so they printed each frame on a piece of paper and 
>> copyrighted that version.  Later, when the movie film was lost, they 
>> took single movie frame photos of the paper and re-constructed the film. 
>>  That's why current prints of this film look so peculiar.
>> 
>> So to combat "format drift", just print out the hex dump of the digital 
>> version... print it on good-quality paper.
>
> The only format more permanent than good-quality paper (or vellum) is clay
> tablets baked in a good hot fire.

Yes, and according to a discussion I read some years ago about
the relative merits of papyrus vs. clay tablets as back media, a
much of the greater permanence of clay tablets is because they
are goat-proof.

:-)

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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  Re: COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-08-01 09:45 -0500
    Re: COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-08-01 14:50 +0000
      Re: COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-08-01 14:51 +0000
        Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-08-01 14:18 -0400
          Re: COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-08-01 18:38 +0000
            Re: COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-08-01 20:55 +0000
        Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
          Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-02 01:21 -0400
      Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-01 15:40 +0000
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      Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-08-01 14:15 -0400
        Re: COBOL and tricks "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2022-08-01 19:47 +0100
          Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-08-01 15:58 -0400
      Re: COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-08-01 18:53 +0000
        Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 20:41 +0100
        Re: COBOL and tricks Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2022-10-28 03:44 -0500
          Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-10-28 11:30 +0100
            Re: COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> - 2022-10-28 13:52 -0500
      Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
    Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
      Re: COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-08-02 11:05 -0500
    Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-02 01:05 -0400
      Re: COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-08-02 11:12 -0500
        Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-02 09:29 -0700
          Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-03 00:42 -0400
        Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-02 23:47 -0400
      Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-02 09:23 -0700
        Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-03 00:51 -0400
  Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
    Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 20:48 +0100
      Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 19:11 -0700
    Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-02 01:54 -0400
      Re: COBOL and tricks Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2022-10-29 07:46 -0500
        Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-10-29 15:49 +0100
        Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-10-29 15:43 -0700
          Re: COBOL and tricks Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2022-10-30 03:35 +0000
        Re: COBOL and tricks Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2022-10-30 09:41 +0000

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